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Makes complete sense to me too Paul, why would anyone want to behave in a way that didnt serve the community, humanity or even yourself, especially when we now have the answer as to why you should, it would be pointless wouldnt it, not to! You can make it complicated but Jeremy Griffith puts it such a way that it all makes perfect, complete and utter sense.
Thanks guys for the heads up, Will cetainly get some more books on the subject. Its occured to me however that Jeremy’s wonderful explanation of Integrative Meaning is so beautifully obvious and how nature make wholes, not the other way around and we as humans are part of nature, its almost enough said isnt it? I get why mainstream science are deaf to this, can you imagine the immediate backlash, people dont like to be proven wrong or even worse liars, and having found the, one could say “cure” for the human condition as Jeremy has and how people seem to want to remain in the cave with the fame, power and glory, not realising ,its akin to getting the cure for cancer and people saying “no its ok I would rather die”, I mean thats how important Jeremys explanation is, a matter of life and death literally xx
Well blow me down 💨
Had never heard of INTP and the link you sent was extremly interesting to say the least, thank you. Its going to take a bit of reading and investigating but it touch on more than one or three of my characteristics to be sure. INTP’s use this to deal with the human condition. In fact one of the ways I dealt with the human condition in all its hideous forms was to come up with a working plan and that was to think I had come from another planet – literally and was on a mission to fill my home planets encyclopedia with all the things about life on earth, with the emphasis on humans behaviour, I always thought it was just me. In fact I have literally note books upon notebooks of my scribblings on what me husband calls “my investigations”, this is why Jeremy’s Explanation is so precious,although I still like investigating I have stopped feeling alienated ! Can you imagine the impact this will have on the population, as there are millions if not billions if not everyone all of whom have this alienation?
I managed also to play the game so to speak and could of been a real high flyer but couldnt understand why people were like they were and really wanted not to play so didnt to any great extent, easier for me being female to do that, not so easy when male and others have the power fame and glory thing in place for you. I preferred to be on the shop floor rather than up with the flyers. Luckily I was able to retire when I married 4 years ago, a complete relief not to have to be in amongst it all finally
More rambling… The fact that I have The Explanation means there is compassion rather than irritation with people, theres also hope that people will finally get it and understand their dark side, that there is light at the end of the tunnel
I am however still filling that encyclopedia, Mary Poppins would be so proud! 😀😀
Am right behind you! Again great post , I love the way you put it all in a nutshell, brilliant xx
Yes exactly! Was relaly exciting to read your post, theres a lot I really relate to, so excuse my post being a bit rambly!
And calling it The Explanation is brilliant have been searching for a name for it, went with, The Information, Jeremys Stuff, It,The Truth etc etc sure you can imagineThe Explanation sums it up completely,thank you.
I too have found that sharing happiness isnt something that people kinda feel comfortable with, well a lot of people anyway but at 56 and like you have been looking for an explanation since I was 7,
I was the one in primary school who whilst everyone else was kneeling and bowing their heads in prayer (it was a church school) I wasnt and wondering what on earth everyone was doing and why there wasnt an explanation, I also noticed that people got somewhat aggitated if I wanted answers!
Its brilliant to be able to share the excitement of it, the wonder of it actually and the seriousness of it is HUGE I just hope that people turn to this before its too late.
I too have gone through the putting the problem with humans aside with distractions, which worked for a while, sort of but like you have always felt I was here on a mission, that I had been sent here to find out why they were in such a bloody mess, luckily Jeremy has answered all that, what an amazing bloke!
So the next thing was to actually try to help and do something,I personally couldnt just sit there, hence the centre! Its only a little thing but hopefully out of acorns and all that
The guys in Sydney are just brilliant, very supportive, Monica is just fabulous.
So thanks again for your brilliant posts
Hi, have turned up a bit late to ths party but wanted to add my two penneth. Nigel I loved you wall of text, please dont apologise for it and Avatar was and still is a brilliant film, even better when you watch it a second time I found and yes I agree that it gave people a sense of what we were missing or had actually lost, the return to that state is now a possible thanks to the wonderful Jeremy. The writings in Freedom amongst lots of other amazingly brilliant things, have given me a new interest in Thermodynamics and Paul Davies’ book The Cosmic Blueprint is brilliant. For me if there is a ‘negative arrow’ logic would suggest there has to be a positive or Optomistic one!
Lastly If anyone can point me in the direction of more Negative Entropy information that would be great, book etc, for beginners would be even better. Have been combing the internet but recommendations are brilliant
Love Roz x
Hi guys, have just seen that these are quite old posts, well relatively anyway but just had to say Conrads explanation of it Negative Entropy and Integrated Meaning being one of the same is brilliant, love the nutshell thing of it. I had never heard of the second law of thermodynamics in fact had to look it up to see what it meant! But for me it just summed it all up and made perfect sense.why they dont teach is in schools, I dont know. The fact that we are all ONE or none is another wonderful term for it, the sooner humans get that the better there is a better world, Jeremys information is the key to it, its just sooooo straight forward, its as hard as you make it! Anyway just wanted to say thanks for a brilliant discussion. Xx
Hi, know what you mean about it being like a fantasy movie! There had to be a reason why humans are as they are, this information hits the nail on the head, you can leave the old world behind, it is an amazing feeling. Xx
Couldnt agree more! The understanding that it brings is amazing isnt it, I get a lot of comfort knowing that, as they say ‘its all going to be alright” and actually mean it! Its very interesting watching old worlders in what looks like a constant battle. Its brought a lot more understanding in my relationship with my newish husband (4yrs in April) and I realise why a lot of men dont have time to chat about for example a new hair style or the pretty colour the daffodils are, they are in a very serious battle, generals and captains dont have time to discuss such beautiful things when theres a war to be one! Even though we know the battle has been one and its time to stop – they dont! It reminds me of the japanese soldier still fighting 40 years after the war had stopped ehen they found him in the jungle. Anyway I digress, its such a fascinating topic and its great to be able to waffle on about it to someone who gets it
Just loving your post
Love Roz xx
Only me, just wanted to say its actually only a quarter past four here in a very sunny Andalusia xx
I love these posts. Its really easy to fall back into the cave on a day to day basis, there are so many people no wanting you out there in the sunshine, all of it obviously to do with the human condition. Jeremys writing are truly amazing and hits it all on the proverbial head. I have been watching people for years and without doubt this, the transformed state will be in the future how people are naturally, they, thank goodness wont know any different. However for now, if it helps anyone, what I do is to remember. Remember to take just a minute everyday, to remember how beautiful it is ‘out there’ and how wonderful it is to live like that.
I am not one for fancy deeply intellectual discussions, in fact for me its all so obvious, there had to be a reason for peoples behaviour, especially when humans naturally come from a line of wonderful caring creatures, we have just to remember, after all everyone knows in their hearts, but fear is a huge obstacle, the fear of what might happen, of going against a 2 million year old grain. Now its has been defined by Jeremy what the bloody hell was the matter with people – now we can all come out into the sunshine
I, on a daily basis remind myself that there is no need to be afraid, that if you embrace the findings, the findings embrace you. Its changed my perspective on eveything and everybody, with out being OTT, and as James Moffat says “people have asked me if I have had a face lift!”
I have no religious background, in fact I always wondered why people wanted to pass the buck onto someone else, I’ m not a happy clappy bible bod, however “friends” have said I have an evangelical way of talking about it, when they let me 😀😀 that is!
The stuff is pure gold guys, it makes me so frustrated that its not gone global.
Much love – Roz xx. 🐓🐓🐓🐓 with a few chooks for Mon xx
Hi guys, live long and prosper 🖖🏻
Star Trek has to be an all time favorite of mine, the original series is my personal preferance although I dont mind a bit of Jean Luc from time to time. But definately recall the episode you are referring to.
So much of popular movies and TV has referencing to the HC and since my personal transformation I am assured that all of us have the ability to find the connection to our previous happiness for want of a better phrase, that way being, (a) realising whats been going on and (b) actually having the balls to do something about it! And although it can be an easy jump if you let it, there are plenty of folk wanting you not to go in case something nasty happens or even worse for them it works!
We are so conditioned to believe thatCaptain Kirk was doing the right thing by bringing people back onto the ‘security’ of the ship, it so reminds me of The Cave, Kirk assuring his crew that the Enterprise was safe although he thought it was, were his crew not better off in the sunshine? I think so. But I dont think the Federation would of agreed either.
Although Kirk is very cool and I would love to be a member of the crew on the Enterprise – a life time of suffering vs a life time of sunshine and being in the garden? Theres no contest.
Mind you in my version of that episode James Tiberius Kirk would of stayed on the planet!
Love Roz xx
Has anyone else found this, that when you are thinking of for example “i wonder what Jeremy’s take is on what happens after you die” being a relative newby his books are just mind blowing, you can literally pick a subject, one of the big ones and get the answer, its always very obvious.
As for re incarnation I agree when he writes about it on page 501 of Freedom (thanks Tommy for the heads up btw) my interpretation of it is that its about our lack of belief in our selves as good loving humans and that we all feel that life is so nasty that there has to be a reward at the end of it or even a chance to have another go of it to make a better job of it the next time round. However if we knew what loving, good humans we really were, as we can now thanks to the amazing Jeremy Griffith, knowing that we were contributing back into the system when we died would sit very nicely with us.
It does for me and taken all the fear out of dying, which many many people still have
I too get kinda lost in the discussion a bit too. For my part in all this, I had been looking for the answer all my life, well from the age of 6 or 7 if I think back, its quite a while so takes a bit of doing! Anyway having stumbled onto Jeremys book Freedom and then the web site and then all the other books, page after page was just one truth after another, one answer after another. Wow, wow and wow again is an understatement. As to how to stay ‘transformed’ I have found virtually that as soon as I started reading I knew this was it, the why people were like they were and why we all cant just be nice to each other! I was constantly bemused by why people were so horrid. I was also deeply relieved when Jeremy gave how I was a name, that name being a ship at sea, I wasn’t the alien after all then! Which had occured to me in more than a big way!
Although its early days, I am somewhat of a newbie, I found that now I had the reason why the world was in the state, it was a huge relief and frustration is being replaced by compassion for my fellow humans as we are actually all heroes, searching for the knowledge, now we can relax as we have it, we just need to get the word out.
I do have a tendency to want to over study it, but am staying away from my own dark side and putting it in the proverbial suitcase, you dont need to keep examining it and even if you do I just went back to Jeremys framework and it all made perfect sense! Although I am really enjoying the biology lessons, no really! Sad bunny or what
My husband wants to know if I am taking happy pills,well now I get him and see men as heroes we get on so much better and yes a slight tendency to slip back to the old world ways, (as although I am a ship I also had periods of “playing” being resigned as it was just easier and never lasted very long) but I just say the word Freedom to myself and I am back on line so to speak.
Anyway Roger yours was a very cool email
? Happy days eh?
Thank you for your reply. You are completely spot on when you said about the relief flooding out of me! Am reading lots at the moment and watching the brilliant videos on the website, and have several OMG moments every day!
Its getting better, the frustration with people thing, once you know why it helps so much, especially when previously I used to think this has to be me making him, them, she,he behave like that, as if I had done something wrong, in fact I dont take critism at all well… i wonder why? Now i know why that little chesnut has desolved too! ? Happy days as they say
Now I know why ‘patience is a virtue’ and why its so important, especially the leading by example thing, that certainly something that I can relate to and sits well with me, its great to have sn aim ne snd know why. Happy days again ?
Must share this, with you, prior to finding the knowledge/truth/meaning (btw o you have a name for ‘It’) I always had this feeling that i would be needed when the time came, that its all been leading up to something, and thats my life was like it was, is this a common thing with ‘SAS’ folk? One of things I knew I would need was patience, not very good at it previously, marrying someone in a wheelchair has gone a long way in teaching me that, I knew it was needed, which was one of the many reasons we were married 3 years ago. Should I phone for the men in the white van to come and take me away? ???
An english very common phrase, used by Terry Wogan an english radio host and chat show host was “Is it me?” One does wonder u til you know why.
Thanks again, hope I havent bored you witless with all the inbetween chatter