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  • in reply to: Integrated Meaning

    Willow
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    Just reading through this thread and am loving it, especially your excitement about the volvox RJ!!! I similarly enjoyed learning from Jeremy about the cooperation and selflessness of ants and bees and as a result I have to admit I have developed a new found respect for them and no longer think of them as pesky insects. They are in fact a fascinating outcome of the development of order of matter and so representative of integrative meaning in action, how wonderful is that. It doesn’t seem scientific in the sense of the mechanistic human condition afflicted world that we have had to, until now, live in, but the beauty of integrative meaning I think really came to life for me when I read the absolutely beautiful words of Russian novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky that Jeremy includes in his work, where Dostoevsky talks just so wonderfully about our innocent past, when he wrote: ‘The grass glowed with bright and fragrant flowers. Birds were flying in flocks in the air, and perched fearlessly on my shoulders and arms and joyfully struck me with their darling, fluttering wings. And at last I saw and knew the people of this happy land [this is before we became fully conscious and the upset state of the human condition emerged]. They came to me of themselves, surrounded me, kissed me. The children of the sun, the children of their sun—oh, how beautiful they were!…​Their faces were radiant…​in their words and voices there was a note of childlike joy…​It was the earth untarnished by the Fall; on it lived people who had not sinned…​They desired nothing and were at peace; they did not aspire to knowledge of life as we aspire to understand it, because their lives were full [this is pre-knowledge, this is all confirmation of the instinct vs intellect explanation in Video 3]. But their knowledge was higher and deeper than ours…​but I could not understand their knowledge. They showed me their trees, and I could not understand the intense love with which they looked at them; it was as though they were talking with creatures like themselves…​and I am convinced that the trees understood them. They looked at all nature like that—at the animals who lived in peace with them and did not attack them, but loved them, conquered by their love…​There was no quarrelling, no jealousy among them…​for they all made up one family’ (The Dream of a Ridiculous Man, 1877). (I took this from Freedom Essay 62 ‘Jeremy Griffith’s Masterpiece Presentation’ – that in itself is a magnificent read / video / podcast!!)
    Honestly, Dostoevsky’s words are just too beautiful to comprehend but it is true and how incredible is it that we can all access this now inside of us now that we can understand the human condition and come back to life and out of Plato’s dreadful dark cave of denial. I just can’t thank Jeremy enough for the gift he has bestowed on humanity!!

    in reply to: Religion vs Human Condition: Different Angle

    Willow
    Participant

    Linda Susan, your articulation of the magnificence of what Jeremy Griffith has done for humanity through his scientific explanation of the human condition is just breathtaking. I’ve mentioned elsewhere on this forum that science was not my thing growing up because I just couldn’t make sense of what I was being taught at school, but thanks to what Jeremy has done I can now clearly see its critical contribution to saving the human race from terminal levels of human condition induced alienation and suffering. As Jeremy describes at para 296 of Freedom: ‘So, we can see that as dishonest as it necessarily was in its approach, mechanistic, reductionist science turns out to be the liberator of humanity, the proverbial ‘messiah’ or ‘saviour’ of humanity, for it has finally enabled us to lift the so-called ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race! It found understanding of the difference in the way nerves and genes process information, that one is insightful and the other isn’t, which has finally made it possible to explain that greatest of all mysteries, that holy grail of all human conscious thought and enquiry, of the human condition. As was mentioned in par.245, the fundamental conflict involved in our condition between our innocent instinctive self and our conscious self was described as far back as when Genesis was written by Moses and Plato presented his allegory of the two-horsed chariot, but we couldn’t explain that conflicted state until science found understanding of the different ways genes and nerves process information.’ (https://www.humancondition.com/freedom-real-explanation-rehabilitates-the-human-race/?scroll_to=science%20and%20messiah&scroll_num=1) I too thank Jeremy Griffith every minute of every day for presenting this explanation, giving us the ability to release ourselves from the darkness of living in Plato’s cave and to living in the glorious sunshine New World of understanding! As Jeremy says regularly, ‘We humans are conscious beings, we needed brain food not brain anaesthetic. We needed answers, especially the answer to the crux question of why we have been the way we have been, less-than-ideally behaved, and it is that answer of answers [he has presented]. This is the most exciting moment in human history!‘ And a massive thank you to you and everyone else who contributes so wonderfully to this forum in a bid to tell the whole world about his life-saving work, it really is inspiring reading.

    in reply to: Adam Stork

    Willow
    Participant

    Hello Nicoletta, your post was so wonderful to read, thank you, especially your message that you have signed off with – yes this information is the only thing in the world that does not disappoint!! And it is so desperately needed by humans around the world and the more we love and support it over living out our now understood and therefore obsoleted resigned behaviours the more Jeremy’s most incredible vision that he so beautifully writes about in every book and major document he has written will be fulfilled:‘Soon from one end of the horizon to the other an army in its millions will appear to do battle with human suffering, and its weapon will be understanding and its outcome, world reparation’!

    in reply to: Selfless genes

    Willow
    Participant

    Yes Linda Susan, the ‘world is crumbling’, isn’t it! As Jeremy writes in Freedom at para 1058: ‘…it is ‘end play for the human race wherever we look, and while we humans have had no choice other than to stay positive in our thinking, pretend that everything is okay, underneath that facade everyone knows the situation is becoming extremely serious.’ (https://www.humancondition.com/freedom-so-it-is-end-play-wherever-we-look/?scroll_to=end%20play&scroll_num=1) Thank goodness for Jeremy’s explanation of the human condition, and just in the nick of time to save ourselves from ourselves! Yes, we finally can really celebrate our freedom from Plato’s dark cave of denial!!! And how good are those Instagram posts from Susy!!!

    in reply to: Adam Stork

    Willow
    Participant

    Wow Nicoletta, I just loved reading your post, so beautifully articulated and inspired!! Thank you for sharing. Jeremy’s Adam Stork analogy is just so wonderful isn’t it in explaining how the human condition emerged and what happens now that we can understand that, being that we can ‘effectively immediately’ free ourselves from the torturous chains of our deep psychological insecurity about our worth. I do just love these words from Jeremy at para 1166 in Freedom (https://www.humancondition.com/freedom-the-transformed-lifeforce-way-of-living/#par1166) describing the hugely transformative effects that come from finally being able to understand the human condition: “‘the excitement and relief of being effectively free of the human condition—the joy and happiness of being liberated from the burden of our insecurities, self-preoccupations and devious strategising; the awesome meaning and power of finally being genuinely aligned with the truth and actually participating in the magic true world; the wonderful empathy and equality of goodness and fellowship that understanding of the human condition now allows us to feel for our fellow humans; the freedom now to effectively focus on repairing the world; and, above all, the radiant aliveness from the optimism that comes with knowing our species’ march through hell has finally ended and that a human-condition-free new world is coming—CAN NOW TRANSFORM EVERY HUMAN AND THUS THE WORLD.’

    in reply to: Selfless genes

    Willow
    Participant

    I totally relate Kim and thanks for posting about this as it is so good to be able to share our experiences with how Jeremy’s biological explanation of the human condition has enabled us to finally be able to understand ourselves, other people and the world around us.

    I didn’t enjoy science at school because I couldn’t seem to make sense of how it related to life, but that has all changed since reading Jeremy’s work. I can now understand things that I never thought I would be able to understand like DNA and Negative Entropy (I didn’t even know this term existed let alone what it meant) and how amazing it is to really learn how science means knowledge and that all the hard won insights unearthed by science has actually resulted in enabling Jeremy to piece everything together and go on and solve the human condition, what a most special and incredible, life transforming gift for humanity!

    This morning on my way to work I was listening to the podcast of Essay 4 titled ‘The ‘instinct vs intellect’ is the obvious and real explanation of our condition, as all these great thinkers evidence’ (https://www.humancondition.com/freedom-essays/the-instinct-vs-intellect-explanation-is-obvious-short/) and I just love how Jeremy beautifully presents the evidence from great thinkers in our past and present, as well as the amazing bonobos, that proves we had a cooperative, selfless and loving past and how us upset resigned humans have been so understandably ashamed of having to depart from that state that we have had to deny it and instead blame our present human condition induced angry, egocentric and alienated behaviours on having savage animal instincts. How good is it that that train of thinking can now end, because with the human condition solved it is at last safe to admit there was a very good reason for why we had to deny our cooperative, selfless and loving past because it was too confronting of why we were no longer like that and by so doing we can heal our upset selves and return to how we all know we can and want to live – cooperatively, selflessly and lovingly. As Jeremy so simply explains: “the answer to our angry, egocentric and alienated human condition lay in understanding that a clash must have occurred between our already established instincts and more recently emerged conscious mind.

    Like all Jeremy’s work, this essay is just incredible and so illuminating of so many things and I love how he ends it, saying: “As a result of this presentation, I hope you, the listener or reader, have now some understanding of why we had to use the ‘savage instincts’ excuse, and will now agree that the instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition that I presented … is indeed the obvious and real explanation of the human condition. And if it is that now desperately needed reconciling and thus psychologically healing and transforming explanation for our angry, egocentric and alienated lives—which it clearly is—then you, and everyone else, can enjoy that dreamed-of transformation of your life from a human-condition-stricken state to a fabulous human-condition-free one…Yes, the ‘unappeasable homesickness at the base of the human heart’ for the ‘togetherness’ that existed ‘before the dawning of individual consciousness’ that Sir Laurens van der Post wrote so wonderfully and truthfully about, can finally be ‘appeas[ed]’. As the great poet T.S. Eliot accurately described our human journey from ignorance to enlightenment: ‘We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.

    in reply to: Adam Stork

    Willow
    Participant

    What a wonderful way to celebrate Thanksgiving Linda, I just love your post!! You write so beautifully – your words are so filled to the brim with incredible excitement and enthusiasm for the new, sunshine filled world that is now available thanks to Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition, it is infectious! Yes, there is so much to be grateful for now that the human condition has been solved. And I totally agree that what Jeremy has done is the greatest gift for humanity. We are just so so lucky!!! To be able to understand ourselves, others and the world around us is truly remarkable.

    I really love that this information has enabled you to ‘feel SO FREE in admitting all the things that I was too insecure to express’. For me, I grew up in a fairly atheist family where those more spiritual aspects of life were frowned upon, so you can imagine the joy I too have experienced in being able to understand, through Jeremy’s scientific explanation, the meaning of religion and the incredibly important role that Christ played in humanity’s journey to the real, true enlightenment that we now have about our paradoxical nature. And what a revelation it was for me to learn that ‘God’ is not a supernatural being up in the sky but a safe, arms length term that us resigned humans had to use to describe Integrative Meaning because it was so devastatingly confronting of how disintegrative we understandably had become as a result of having had no choice but to live under the duress of the horror and agony of the human condition. It is such a relief to be able to finally be able to understand all of this and all manner of mystery and mythology that has shrouded our dark cavernous lives. I found Freedom Essay 23 titled ‘The integrative meaning of existence and its personification as ‘God’’, which you may well have read, an incredible read, here’s the link: https://www.humancondition.com/freedom-essays/the-integrative-meaning-of-existence/

    You may have also read these profoundly beautiful words from chapter 9 of Freedom (para 1258) that always bring me so much comfort whenever I read them about how magnificent life is now that the human condition has been solved: “We humans have, in truth, all been asleep, owned by so much pain and suffering…but it’s on, the great awakening, the rising up of the human race from its deep slumber. From the festering, stalled state it has been in for far too long, waiting for these liberating understandings of the human condition, the human race is finally on its way! … Yes, the gateway is wide open and sunlight is now streaming into our world. We can all break out of our chrysalis, our human -condition afflicted straitjacket, where we have been constrained, letting the wings of our great potential unfold in the sunshine of relieving understanding to reveal the fabulously beautiful creatures we really are.”

    Thank you again for your wonderfully inspiring post!

    in reply to: Talking with Friends

    Willow
    Participant

    It was your story that inspired me Ari! So thank you!! When you said that after reading A Species In Denial for the second time “it was like I was blind the first time and now I could see. It was clear, easy to read and made amazing sense”, it reminded me of my own experience and Jeremy’s insight into the deaf effect hurdle us resigned humans are going to be faced with and how if you stick at it, you will be rewarded, not only for yourself but the whole world.

    You’ve also had me thinking about how I approach the topic of the human condition with my family and friends and sometimes if we’re talking about an issue like the environment or feminism I will try and give an explanation based in understanding of the human condition and introduce the concepts that way. More often than not I am met with blank looks and the conversation is quickly changed, but sometimes someone engages and wants to know more, or afterwards someone will quietly ask me about it and I take the opportunity to direct them to FREEDOM and the WTM’s website. It just takes time doesn’t it.

    I also just read this in FREEDOM at paragraph 840 and it was so beautiful, I just had to share it, “…it is love, and our love of love, that is what is truly universal and eternal/everlasting/immortal.” (Such is the extent of my deaf effect that I have no doubt read this before but never noticed it! As you advise to people Ari, and as Jeremy counsels, keep reading and you will discover gold.)

    in reply to: Talking with Friends

    Willow
    Participant

    I agree with Chris’ comment – I love your introductory words for people Ari, so good. And I love that RJ posted your comment about your experience with how you overcame the deaf effect, it is a very inspiring story and journey that you’ve been on and shows just how real an issue the deal effect is among us resigned humans. But that if we’re patient and heed Jeremy’s advice of re-reading and watching the videos and reading the essays and all manner of material that’s available our thick blocks of denial start to erode, the veil begins to lift, the blinds come off, the plugs come out of our ears and before you know it what was once just a series of black dots on a page become the most important and beautiful, precious and meaningful words we’ve ever and will ever read, the true gift of compassionate, signifying, all redeeming and relieving truth we’ve ever wanted. And to be able to introduce that to other people is just wonderful. Your and everyone’s messages on this thread are very inspiring and I will take your lead! Thank you!!

    in reply to: discovering the power of empathy

    Willow
    Participant

    Isn’t it just incredible that we can now understand all these aspects of human behaviour thanks to Jeremy’s explanation of the human condition – it constantly blows my mind that we no longer have to live in darkness and confusion but can live knowing and effectively free of the horrors of the human condition. Freedom Essay 21 ‘How did we humans acquire our all-loving, unconditionally selfless moral conscience?’ Is a great read on this topic.
    https://www.humancondition.com/freedom-essays/how-did-we-humans-acquire-our-altruistic-moral-conscience/

    in reply to: How to stay "transformed"?

    Willow
    Participant

    Thanks Polly, a great reminder of how good the Wonderful Transformation Counsel document is. I also find the video Jeremy did on how to become Transformed is a great tool in cementing in the fundamentals and helping me to stay Transformed – I just live the hill diagram and how simple a visualisation it is in helping me to see the wrestle of the resigned state and to just walk away from it and live in the valley of Freedom – here’s a link: https://www.humancondition.com/transformation/
    And a link to the transcript, which I’ve printed out and read regularly to remind me of the process, it’s so aligning: https://www.humancondition.com/transcript-how-to-become-transformed/

    in reply to: With gratitude

    Willow
    Participant

    Wow, I’ve just come across this thread and just loved reading everything that’s been said about the power of Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition to transform our lives from living in the horror of the cave’s darkness to living in sunshine, free of the chains of insecurity, alienation, anger and egocentricity. Thank you! There’s a wonderful drawing of Jeremy’s that sums it all up – it simply says ‘We are free’ with the image of an incredibly happy person. I just saw it in Freedom Essay 17, which has the most exciting title – ‘How understanding the human condition can immediately transform your and every other humans’ life and save the world’. Like everything Jeremy writes it is a must-read – here’s a link: https://www.humancondition.com/freedom-essays/how-everyones-lives-can-now-be-transformed/

    in reply to: Are you open-minded to reincarnation?

    Willow
    Participant

    Hi Ros, yes I agree it is absolutely mind blowing that Jeremy has solved the human condition and all those things I had thought were unanswerable are now explained-it is fascinating and amazing and relieving all at once.

    With regards to reincarnation and what happens to us after we I have loved reading g this thread and the excerpts from Jeremy’s books that Mon and Tommy provide above. I followed the link through in Mon’s post and found a lot of comfort from the following extract that flows on from what’s in her post and thought I’d share as felt it’s in line with your interpretation, that its our insecurity of not knowing if we are good or bad from life under the duress of the human condition that makes us so fearful of death and for that matter life as well:

    “The problem for humans has been that they have been insecure as a result of the human condition. They have doubted that they were part of ‘God’s plan’. They sometimes feared that they might be evil beings, a blight on the planet, something even worse than meaningless. Living in this horrible state of insecurity for some 2 million years meant continually struggling to believe in themselves, in their worth and ultimately in their relevance to the future. They worried that there may not be an afterlife for them, in the sense of their positive contribution to the future. There were, however, times when humans were not overcome with depressing thoughts about their possible worthlessness and managed to realign themselves to the greater truth of their true worth or meaningfulness—a truth that they were fighting to one day be able to establish irrefutably. In these rare moments of clarity and security humans knew there was an afterlife for them, that they did contribute meaningfully to the future. Unable to explain it rationally, this greater truth, that humans were occasionally able to access, became expressed in literal terms, and these literal interpretations became central in religious beliefs. Over time, as humans became more alienated, the literalness became more simplistic, to the point where some people actually believe they are reincarnated as new humans or even as animals after death.

    “The other dimension to the concept of afterlife involves the concepts of heaven and hell. The insecurity of humans of doubting their worthiness or meaningfulness became expressed in the duality of a hell-versus-heaven afterlife. The more corrupted humans were the more they feared they were not meaningful and the idea of going to hell became the expression of that fear. Similarly, the more humans managed to avoid becoming corrupted, the more they felt they might be meaningful and the idea of going to heaven became an expression of that hope. From there, the idea of heaven and hell became developed as a form of reward or punishment for humans. The threat of going to hell deterred humans from living out their corrupted self’s angers and frustrations. In reality, as has been explained, ‘heaven’ was the utterly integrated state that humans’ once lived in, and will now return to, and ‘hell’ was the corrupted state that developed as a result of the battle of the human condition, a state which humanity is about to leave. Heaven and hell have been states here on Earth.” https://www.humancondition.com/asid-afterlife-explained/?scroll_to=afterlife&scroll_num=1

    in reply to: Men and Women

    Willow
    Participant

    Hi Dave, what a great question. Like you, my husband and I have always been close, but I know we have has just continued to deepen and grow together as we’ve understood the explanation for the human condition – especially being able to understand the differences between men and women as a result of the human condition. This has changed how we treat each other – we have so much more respect and appreciation for who we each are and we can talk so much more openly and honestly about things so that when challenges arise we can deal with them so much more effectively and with compassion for where we’re each coming from. I think the biggest thing for me is that in being able to understand why, until now, men have had no choice but to oppress women, I’ve done a complete backflip, changing from an understandably feminist view that men are the villains on the planet to the opposite, that they are the ultimate heroes on the planet for what they have had to do – without any way to explain why they were doing it – of going into the battle against ignorance to search for the knowledge we so desperately needed so that every human can now understand the human condition and with that all the pain and suffering humans have had to endure can finally end. It blows my mind to understand this and with that I have an incredible new-found respect for men and that translates into my relationship with my husband. It really has been such a revelation to finally be able to understand the reason for the gulf that exists between men and women – I particularly love what Jeremy Griffith writes in Ch 8:11B in Freedom, titled ‘Men and women’s relationship after the emergence of the human condition’. I know you’ve talked about the issue of men and women being contexted but it reminded my of how much paragraphs 771 and 772 in this chapter sum up for me the situation and thought I’d include here: 771 – “So, in keeping with their already established roles as the group protectors, it was men who took up the loathsomely upsetting job of championing the ego over the ignorance of our original instinctive self, leaving women to their loving, nurturing role. The problem this role differentiation gave rise to, however was that in not being responsible for or participating in the terrible battle to overthrow ignorance women were naive or unaware of the ramifications of fighting the battle, and, as a result, were unsympathetic towards both the battle and the frustrated anger and egocentricity it produced in men—a situation that placed men in the awful predicament of being misunderstood and unjustly condemned by women. Women, not responsible for the fight against ignorance, and so not partaking in the battle itself, did not and could not be expected to understand what happened in the battle or the effect it had on men; they could understand the search for knowledge, but not what the battle involved…” and 772 – “Life has certainly been ‘very difficult’ for men; they have had the absolutely horrible job of having to be strong enough to, in effect, kill soul—to search for knowledge and determinedly defy our beautiful, cooperatively orientated, original instinctive self. And since that defiance resulted in becoming angry, egocentric and alienated, which are all divisive, un-Godly traits, men were, in effect, in violation of God, the integrative ideals of life! So from an initial state of upset, men had then “to contend with a sense of guilt, which very greatly compounded their insecurity and frustrations and made them even more angry, egocentric and alienated. (As explained in chapter 3:5, this avalanche of criticism is the ‘double and triple whammy’ of condemnation that humans experienced when we searched for knowledge.) How tough were men going to have to be to continue to do their job without receiving any respect or appreciation for why they were having to do what they were having to do! No wonder they have become so incredibly upset.” And I just have to include the closing words of this chapter: “With understanding of the human condition now found, men and women can at last stand side by side—the ‘war of the sexes’ can finally be resolved. Yes, the human journey can have the happy ending we always hoped it would.” It’s just incredibly exciting to know that we can now live a life effectively free of the ravages of the human condition and that in doing so it ends all the immense upset humans experience every day, including within ourselves and with our partners, we can actually live in peace and treat each with the love we deserve and expect.

    in reply to: Kids and Teens

    Willow
    Participant

    Yes I agree Sarah about the importance of mainstream support for this explanation of the human condition and what’s going to be so amazing Dave is what Jeremy Griffith regularly says ‘soon from one end of the horizon to the other will appear an army in its millions to do battle with human suffering and understanding will be its weapon’ – I think about that and that comforts me and gives me peace that it won’t be long before all children on earth will have access to this information and can grow up free of the pain and suffering that’s been understandably caused by the human condition. It warms my heart.

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