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This is inspirational WTM Email 8

 

Is there a God, is God real and what is God?

 

Is there a God? Is God real? Yes, but until we could explain our seemingly ‘un-Godly’ human condition, all we could cope with was an abstract, ‘deity-in-the-clouds’ version of ‘God’.

 

 

Ancient of Days by William Blake

Ancient of Days by William Blake

 

There is actually a very obvious direction and purpose to existence, which is the ordering or integration of matter into ever larger and more stable wholes. For example, here on Earth, as the chart below illustrates, atoms became ordered or integrated to form molecules → which in turn integrated to form compounds → virus-like organisms → single-celled organisms → multicellular organisms → and then societies of multicellular organisms.

 

Development of Order or Integration of Matter. A similar chart appears in Arthur Koestler's 1978 book 'Janus: A Summing Up'

 

So the theme or purpose or meaning of existence is the ordering or integration of matter, a process that is driven by the physical law of Negative Entropy.

 

These quotes from Stephen Hawking and Albert Einstein (respectively) indicate how prevalent this underlying order is: ‘The overwhelming impression is of order…[in] the universe’ (‘The Time of His Life’, Gregory Benford, Sydney Morning Herald, 28 Apr. 2002), and that ‘behind everything is an order’ (Einstein Revealed, PBS, 1997).

 

 

Stephen Hawking

Stephen Hawking

Albert Einstein

Albert Einstein

 

 

There is, however, an immense problem admitting this truth of integrative meaning, and that is it unbearably confronts us with our divisive, seemingly disintegrative selfish, competitive and aggressive human condition.

 

The fact is that for a larger whole to form and hold together (integrate) the parts of that whole must consider the welfare of the whole above their own welfare. Simply stated, selflessness is integrative while selfishness is divisive or disintegrative. But this implies that we selfish and competitive humans have been living in defiance of ‘Integrative Meaning’, living in a way that is out of step with creation!

 

In fact, Integrative Meaning has been such a terrifyingly condemning truth that we divisively behaved humans couldn’t face it. And so, to avoid facing it, we deified the process of Integrative Meaning as ‘God’, thus making it something separate and superior to us, not connected to us in an earthly, practical way which these further words from Hawking with reference to Einstein reveal:

 

‘I would use the term God as the embodiment of the laws of physics’ (Master of the Universe, BBC), and ‘The more we discover about the universe, the more we find that it is governed by rational laws. If one liked, one could say that this order was the work of God. Einstein thought so… We could call order by the name of God.’ (Gregory Benford, ‘The time of his life’, The Sydney Morning Herald, 27 Apr. 2002; see <www.wtmsources.com/170>)

 

So, ‘God’ is the personification of Integrative Meaning, a personification that was necessary while we selfish and competitive humans couldn’t explain why we were seemingly at odds with ‘the work of God’! No wonder we had to deify the concept!

 

IT IS ONLY NOW that we have the redeeming explanation of humans’ divisively behaved human condition, that Jeremy Griffith has found and presented in his book FREEDOM, that we can at last afford to demystify ‘God’ as Integrative Meaning.

 

Finally, divisively behaved humans and Integrative Meaning or ‘God’ have been reconciled and, most wonderful of all, through that redemption of humans our insecure selfish, competitive and aggressive behaviour is brought to an end. In the symbolism of Michelangelo’s famous painting in the Sistine Chapel, the fingers of God and Man finally touch peace comes to our human situation.

 

Image of Michelangelo’s The Creation of Adam

Image of Michelangelo’s The Creation of Adam

 

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Read Jeremy Griffith’s breakthrough redeeming explanation of the human condition in chapter 1 of FREEDOM; and much more in chapter 4 of FREEDOM about Integrative Meaning and God.

 

Discussion or comment on this email is welcomed see below.

 

 

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(Note, Wednesday’s explanatory emails and Friday’s inspirational emails are numbered in order of appearance, so one is odd and the other even numbered.)

 

Wednesday’s explanatory WTM Email 1 Why solving the human condition solves everything | 3 The false ‘savage instincts’ excuse | 5 The explanation of the human condition | 7 The transformation of the human race

 

Friday’s inspirational WTM Email 2 WTM Centres opening everywhere | 4 Can conflict ever end? | 6 ‘This is the real liberation of women’

 

These emails were composed during 2017 by Jeremy Griffith, Damon Isherwood,
Fiona Cullen-Ward & Brony FitzGerald at the Sydney WTM Centre.

 

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  1. Perry Sherrard on September 16, 2017 at 2:35 am

    The only one that I could be
    Is just this person I call me
    The nearest I am that I an see
    Is this I am here inside of me
    Is this where I choose to hide
    Is that why my I am is inside
    But where else could it be
    Cause that I am is surly me
    The only me that I have got
    Though it is my all, it is not a lot

  2. richard on August 16, 2017 at 8:18 am

    The key for me in this email is the explanation for why we have had to be ‘God fearing’ or deny what Griffith describes as Integrative Meaning – because until we could explain why we seemed to be UNGodly or DISintegrative the whole thing just made us look bad or evil. But now we can explain that our competitive aggressive state was OK, the whole thing turns around.

  3. Gerard van_Poppel on August 14, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    Sometimes – at full unexpected moments – mostly, with awakening, in the middle of the night – I get the impuls for going to my study and set my down for writing acted on impuls. (2014.10.25.~ 03.H)
    So one of these came – without any thinking about at that moment or before – about “God”, what and who about this idea or concept.
    The result is the following (I wrote it primarely in Dutch – my mother tongue – and translated it in “Enlish” – for you my appreciated readers).
    when this there came more or this moments for writing down what spontanious “came in” for sharing on the longer run – the moment would be there; I suppose this will be that moment, finally!
    .
    I had never really studied this item and I never read about it – I only was sometimes tinking about in a relaxed condition, like I often do more philosophating in my own way.
    .

    ====================
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    Respect for life means that you accept, admit, that all Life is connected with “Holy” – Whole, without Any Defect – with
    something / somebody / ……… what we mean with The Word / Idea / Concept: “God” (“God” as a basic term!)
    .
    It means that one accept and admit that “God” the word is with the admitting of being The Creator of ALL Being – and with this The Creator of all Life: plants, animals and Human Being.
    .
    The moment that anybody – everyone of us in person – is realising that everything is related with everything, everything is depending of everything, so: everything what’s consisting is part of One Natural well-balanced universe.
    With really realising this, and experiencing, feeling this till the deepest of the self consciouness, ther will be Only One Conclusion, One Deep Thought: “What Wonderful, Very Special, Enormous, GREAT is this
    Who am I making part of This. What tiny part of that ALTOGETHER am I daring to be a part of it. Which part, which little wheel of that may I be of that all together clockwork of that again an again balancing and every tiny moment again in balance coming universe.
    What was the beginning , Who Did this make – did making this – from ……… ?
    IF there has ever been a “Big Bang” : What / Who made that “Big-Banging” possible, and: Who made That what It/He could made : Banging ….. ?
    Who Was So (Al)Mighty that It/He could made The Real Beginning from Nothing onto Real Being??

    Someone – Somebody – Some……. => This have to be => IS: “GOD”.

    Much more I wrote Inspired …….
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    Thank You
    Gerard

  4. Tommy on July 15, 2017 at 4:29 pm

    Professor John Morton’s various commendations for Jeremy Griffith’s work are relevant and of interest to this discussion, he being a a Lay Canon of Holy Trinity Cathedral and Fellow St. John’s Theological College as well as Emeritus Professor of Zoology. His commendation for Griffith’s 2003 book A Species In Denial is following, more detail can be found at https://www.humancondition.com/prof-john-morton/?scroll_to=John%20Morton&scroll_num=1
    ‘A Species In Denial is a superb book, a marvellous continuation of Jeremy Griffith’s previous work, Beyond The Human Condition. It calls out for deeper thought, both in the biological and spiritual arms of mankind. These are fields of understanding that are drawing closer together. Jeremy’s book brings out the truth of a new and wider frontier for humankind, a forward view of a world of humans no longer in naked competition amongst ourselves and with all others. The fittest and indeed the only humanity able to survive today will be a species evolving and deepening, into a greater harmony with ourselves and with creation at large. We go forward into this new century with a drive for a wider science and a deeper spirituality, to find again for ourselves the place we had come so near to losing: the part that should be ours in a world of loving and understanding.’

  5. Willow on July 15, 2017 at 3:43 pm

    I grew up very confused about God – one parent is an atheist and the other a Christian, goodness knows how they get on but they do. Nevertheless, the explanation presented here makes incredible sense to me that God is all around us in the form of the laws of nature as opposed to an omnipotent being – I never could quite fathom that idea yet nor could I abandon hope and believe in nothing, I always felt there was a bigger driving force behind life and that there was more to life than a blank slate and emptiness. I could never reconcile how as a human I experienced a range of emotions and how the natural world around me could operate and function if there was nothing causing it to do so and I certainly couldn’t grasp the concept of some white haired old man controlling levers from his home in the clouds. So it is just so exciting and relieving to finally be able to understand integrative meaning and know that there is the most divine meaning and purpose to life, thanks to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition. It also makes sense that as sufferers of the human condition, until the human condition was solved and it was safe to do so, us resigned humans wouldn’t be able to look at any of this as it was too confronting of our understandably corrupted and non-ideal, non-integrative state that was amazingly caused by the human condition – this explanation is just so powerful in making sense of what it means to be human and unlocking what were previously mysteries of life. I can’t recommend highly enough reading Ch 4 in Freedom, as well as the whole book of course!

  6. HerrPeerJuann VonnBasslinger on July 14, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    All very insightful and Altruistic but the placing God in a category of a man-made concept places The Most High and Omnipresent in the realms of fairy tales. This does nothing to share the Wondrous and Loving nature of our Creator and places The Great I Am in a Make-Believe reality and fails to acknowledge real life accounts of the Many Whom have met with Him and need no explanation of His Being. This Writer has Died briefly 12 times, the last episode wasn’t so brief, comatose for over three months, Family told there was little hope of recovery, and then proceeding to receive Governor’s Volunteer of Year Award, and being published. God revealed my inevitable Passing to me and we laid down some conditions for my continuance on this plane on returning to living once more. God has kept His side and as a ‘Team’, We are keeping my side of the bargain. Life goes on…

  7. PaulM on July 10, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    Good question. This is at base a biological explanation of the human condition, so it is not religious per se. However, what that explanation of the human condition reveals is that religions and the prophets have been incredibly accurate in describing the human condition, whereas mechanistic science has been incredibly dishonest in its approach to it.

    So unlike most science, this upholds the truth in religions, but it is science, and so it is Griffith is not literal in his take on religions, he is concerned with demystifying them. But again, I am constantly impressed by just how appreciative Griffith is of the contribution of the religions and their prophets.

    The other big difference that I would add is that where religions relied upon deferring to the ideals that were enshrined in their teachings, the biological explanation of the human condition allows deferring to the understanding of the ideals. So there is no faith involved. Just understanding.

    My background is mechanistic, rather faith based, but I particularly valued chapter 4 of Freedom, and you may too, because it explains what God is, and why it has been so terrifying, but again, this is not a literal interpretation, and so my experience is that people with a literal interpretation can take some time to absorb what is being said without feeling that their literal interpretation is being threatened. This can be pretty emotive stuff, but very important IMO.

  8. dennis on July 10, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    what part does Jesus , Mohamed and or many of the other faiths play in this

  9. David Latimer on July 5, 2017 at 3:17 am

    Sorry, but I don’t trust anything Stephen Hawking says. He is not who he seems – he’s probably some sort of New World Order puppet, programmed to say whatever the ‘powers that be’ want us to believe.

    As for God, well of course he/she/it is real – not a bearded old man in the sky of course – but a creator and higher consciousness of which we are all a part. Where else does consciousness come from – certainly not evolved from some primordial slime. It is totally illogical to think otherwise. ‘let go and let God’ as they say and you’ll be OK!

  10. judy66 on June 24, 2017 at 10:19 am

    Integrative meaning is such a huge revelation, and then to combine that with God. Wow. This is so much to think about.

  11. David on June 23, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    Now we are talking. People are beginning to understand what Jesus knew. Absolutely jazz82 I agree with you

  12. jazz82 on June 17, 2017 at 9:12 am

    God vs science is such a huge and emotive topic in the states these days. This sort of insight is the only way out. I recommend people read Griffith’s chapter on it all in Freedom. (chapter 4!)

  13. Kenbee on June 16, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    Yes, its all about order. My book, Law from Within, deals with this subject at length, under the topic of natural law. Manuscript going to the publisher tomorrow. Meanwhile, see http://www.naturalelaw.com

  14. jazz82 on April 22, 2017 at 8:23 am

    The conflation of God and Negative Entropy is a world changer for me. And the more I think about Negative Entropy, or what Griffith terms ‘Integrative Meaning’, the less I think that the concept of ‘God’ has somehow been made weaker or robbed of its vitality. Negative Entropy is the vast loving force behind everything in the universe. And then the realisation that this has been ‘confronting’ for us miserable humans because we were in the throes of the human condition, and so appeared to be anything but loving. And so we had to ‘deify’ this integral force that flows through everything and creates everything.

  15. Bill on April 21, 2017 at 8:21 pm

    Such a huge topic which has bedevilled the human race for ever ,Fintan, I believe you are very close to the truth , and I would add that if everyone were to google the works of Neville Goddard an ultimate explanation of the meaning God will support what Jeremy Griffith has written here. There are many reasons why the traditionally established notion of God has become so entrenched;
    1) Early illiteracy of the masses left enormous power in the hands of those who commanded the print media of the day. This is hardly news to anyone, but given the levels of fear and superstition back “then”, anyone who could read to the masses from a book claiming it to be the word of the divine being, who or whatever that was in their particular culture, could soon form hard and fast dogma.
    2) A very simple, but hardly ever thought of concept drives us easily into mysticism; that is – the need to substitute physical symbolism for feelings, emotions, etc. For instance; we equate knowledge with light, and ignorance with darkness; As in” seeing the light”, etc; if we are sad, or receive shocking news we refer to our heart being ‘Heavy”, because we feel that awful thud in the chest, or we say we feel light and airy if we have “uplifting” news. It is a small step from all these processes to being convinced of feeling a personal message being given to us in answer to prayers when persuaded that the Deity being promoted has a special place for us.
    3) An obvious human need is to try to understand things which are beyond our finite minds, infinity, beginning of time, the universe, and the often heard cry of there must be a God to have done all this. This brings in the concept that because we are made in the image of God, therefore he must somehow have looked like and lived amongst us, hence the trinity theory, and Jesus being both God and man.
    4) The most insanely contradiction of all, I believe, involves the association of the qualities of God as described, such as loving, compassionate, etc , with the Biblical narrative, assumed to be literally true and subsequent events. Meaning the horrendous suffering of people by people, which Jeremy refers to as the Human condition. I believe that Christendom has foisted the two greatest untruths on the world, with disastrous consequences; firstly- on a personal basis, that we are born bad,, and secondly, that mankind is the way it is because God gave us free choice. If what fundamental Christians believe is true, everything that has ever happened, is happening now, or will ever happen is either caused by, or allowed to happen by God. This is the absolute believe that all churches teach. So God Designed a system , gave us free will to do what we liked, KNOWING in advance what would happen, then with a plan in mind to rescue the mess with a cataclysmic event, an admission of failure beyond belief. Never mind the human toll over the history of mankind. Also, if God, as described by the faithful, is absolute perfection, he would be not be capable of creating anything which could turn against his plan, there would simply be nothing in his vocabulary, no concept of evil, hence the Devil, etc. They can’t have it both ways. Consider this, if you only know total light, there is no darkness in your world- you cannot understand it. The same with knowledge/ ignorance, love/hate, etc darkness, ignorance , hate etc, simply don’t exist, they are a lack of something that does.
    In conclusion, Eveything that people of all religious persuasions believe has psychological and emotional reasons and justifications, which does not mean it is wrong for the believers to cling to them. In the absence of rational explanation most people have to believe something to give them hope and purpose, but as is pointed out so often in these forums, we now have the explanation, finally, and thanks to Jeremy Griffith’s amazing scientific work. I’m not sure the WTM would write in quite the same vein as I have, but I don’t think they will sue me either.)
    So do I believe in God? Yes, but the best person to explain what I think is Neville Goddard, as mentioned. Be prepared to be challenged, but fascinated, maybe, but even better, does anyone want to create the life they want? Add Neville Goddard’s insights and methods of personal creativity to the rational explanation of the Human Condition and reach for the stars.

  16. Fintan Ruth on April 2, 2017 at 12:00 am

    This is my defination of the word God.

    God is not a physical or spiritual being, but an idea or belief in the mind of mankind, a mental representation of something higher than ourselves.

    God is a meme ( an idea or element of social behaviour passed on through generations in a culture esp. by imitation ) that has been inculcated ( to instill by foreful or insistent repetition ) on the mind of humanity in different forms since its inception by Moses at a time of great trauma for the Isrealites when they were been culled by the Egyptians.

    Moses came up with the idea of the God Yahweh three and a half thousand years ago, and humanity is stuck with this meme ever since.

    The evolunionary process took over from Moses and the origional meme changed as it was passed on from generation to generation right up to today, where it flourishes with slightly different variations, in thousands of different cultures and religions, all over the planet.

    These slight variations are deemed so important to each culture that they are prepared to kill or die for it, thus ensuring the survival of the meme ” God ” in its many variations.

    There is no such thing as God, it only exists in your own head, and when you die your God dies with you.
    But will be resurected in your childrens minds in more variations.

    • David on June 23, 2017 at 7:12 pm

      wOW rUTH IT WAS INTERESTING READING BUT IN NO WAY DO I AGREE WITH YOU. yOUR LAST STATEMENT MADE ME SMILE BECAUSE IT WAS TOLD TO ME A FEW YEARS AGO. LOL IF YOU THINK FOR ONE LITTLE SECOND THAT YOU OR YOUR TRAITS ARE GOING TO LIVE ON IN YOUR CHILDREN AFTER YOU PASS AWAY AND THAT IS A WAY OF YOU THINKING THAT YOU LIVE ON YOU ARE VERY MUCH DELUDED. iT IS MUCH BETTER THAN THAT AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY. I HAVE DISCOVERED THAT jESUS WHETHER YOU LOOK AT HIM AS A PROPHET OR NOT, he KNEW THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION. IT HAS TO DO WITH KNOWLEDGE. PEACE BE WITH YOU

  17. Parsimony on March 25, 2017 at 8:17 am

    What I love about this, is that it represents a merging of science and religion. Normally scientists meddle in religion in order to bring it down. But this is something different. God IS love, we all know that, but what is being presented here, is a rational explanation, or even reinforcement of that. That is something quite extraordinary. But I understand that there will be many people who cant see that, which is not good, but I honestly don’t know the answer to that stand off.

    • David on June 24, 2017 at 1:01 am

      Parsimony I agree with you in every way

  18. christina tanner on March 25, 2017 at 1:36 am

    I had a post which stated that God is the universe and that I was in danger of bringing about WWIII by making claims about Einstein’s view of God. God is not the universe, the universe is God’s creation given out of love. Science will never give us the answer as to who God is. The fact is that God is simply God. We mere mortals must stop trying to reason or explain away the existence of God and just accept his presence in our lives and the unconditional love he sends to us all, warts and all.

  19. milroy martyn on March 18, 2017 at 12:07 am

    Just last week i bought an incubator and was gifted with 6 quail eggs. i placed the incubator at the required temperature of 38. and low and behold after 21 days four little chickies quail chickies emerged and my grandson took them one by one into his palm and said “how beautiful” these eggs hatched was it just chance, evolution, big bang. I still remember the evening my grandson was born and even the evening my daughters michele and melissa were born. certainly i had to contribute my semen to my wife’s ovum to create life but did i have control of the events until the creation of life.it was a big bang result. Michele eventually died at 39 of a hospital generated virus even in that death i had no control i was helpless no matter how hard i prayed at her bedside at the hospital the Toronto general i could not give her life i was helpless.birth and death are beyond our control of course one can foolishly speed the process of death through self destruction that is stupidity. life is precious death is eventual we have no control over either. he gives he takes we may be the queen of England or the beggar in the street we are all governed by a very simple law. God’s law he lives he lives. he is eternal he creates and he takes away
    creation is his delight and some flowers can glow with beauty others mar that beauty. to be perfect is the only way we can all enrich his creation and be united with him in his heavenly abode when all atoms and molecules are united into oneness in the glory of godliness. einstein made a discovery of some element which already existed before he discovered it. there is more for humanity to unravel which is existing for example the seven earth like planets surrounding the trappist star. now scientist these stars existed from who knows when. there is more for discovery in gods mighty unexplored universe there is more to be discovered the car is only a snail there are more speedy means of travel on land yet to be unravelled.science will not stand still because the omnipotence of god has more to reveal so humans could enjoy,perhaps a new heaven and a new earth life beyond this earth where humans of earth can live in.Humans will continue to remain unchanged they will eat and eat and drink and drink there has been no evolution; intellectually we have grown; but that is not evolution its only new opportunities like the discoveries of the americas and space and the moon and mars. all that man is discovering already existed. “there is nothing new under the stars”God is eternal and since we were created to his image and likeness we too are eternal’ i wonder whether scientists will discover an element smaller than the elements discovered.thus far. will there be infinity in matter; ultimately ending, nay residing in God. nothing in creation has an ending every ending is a new begining.body become worms and life goes out of the body and where does life go i hope science will discover where the force of life which is eternal goes. to? it doesnot take rocket science to expostulate that humanity’sultimate is either in the glory of heaven or damnation of hell.where they will have a hellava time.still being in eternal mode.
    milroy martyn

    • David on June 24, 2017 at 1:05 am

      Milroy martin so sorry to hear of your loss and yet so happy to read all your comment. God Bless

  20. Rick Crane on February 10, 2017 at 11:06 pm

    Thanks for your response Damon.
    If as you say; Negative entropy arrises due to the existence of entropy, but then entropy seems to win over in the end, as everything in the universe decays, breaks down and returns to disorder over time.
    In that sense it seems that entropy works against evolution (integrative meaning). As I mentioned before it is ‘undoing’ what has been done.
    So are they two opposing forces or is it that negative entropy is just the absence of entropy? So the more entropy the more disorder, and the less entropy the more order?
    It’s like darkness and light, darkness being the absence of light and not an apposing force. Or maybe it’s just the in breath and the out breath – Negative entropy arrises out of entropy and then subsides?

    Sorry for all the questions! :)

    • christina tanner on February 11, 2017 at 8:36 pm

      We are entering a new phase in the world – a movement for change. Do not be afraid of the chaos in the world at the moment, out of this chaos, over the next few years, good things will be slowly happening on the global stage as we humans begin to realise how much power for good we, as individuals, have within ourselves. If each of us work in our own little corner of the world to bring about this change, really big things can come into being as our individual efforts combine to create this movement for change. The best way to start is to learn to love yourself and then spread this love among the people around you. A smile to the person at the bus stop, a thankyou to the person on the till in the supermarket, a quick phone call to a friend you have not seen for a while – great oaks grow from small acorns.

    • Parsimony on February 15, 2017 at 8:36 am

      Really, I think they are just processes or laws. As such, they are both always present. For me, this article is so thought provoking because it provides an explanation for why we have been so hamstrung in explaining natural phenomena, because of a human psychosis. This is the ultimate ghost in the machine.

  21. Damon on February 10, 2017 at 12:50 pm

    Hi Rick, yeh it makes awesome sense of a lot of things — just about everything in fact. Entropy is covered in the book to the extent that it is what ‘creates’ Negative Entropy, in that you need entropy acting in an open system to create negative entropy or the complexification or integration of matter. So its not really working against Integrative Meaning, its causing it.
    I see where your mind is going in thinking that ‘the devil’ might be the personification of Entropy — if ‘God’ is the personification of Negative Entropy, then shouldnt ‘the devil’ be the personification of Entropy?? But I think historically humans have used ‘the devil’ more as a personification of our own upset state — our anger, egocentricity and alienation, rather than a personification of the process of entropy.
    The real issue though — the real breakthrough that is so exciting — is that in the final analysis it turns out that our upset state was heroic or ‘integrative’. It was in line with Negative Entropy!

  22. Rick Crane on February 9, 2017 at 10:55 pm

    I love this theory but want to understand how entropy fits in to all of this? It is not covered in the book either?

    If, as you say “There is actually a very obvious direction and purpose to existence, which is the ordering or integration of matter” “… a process that is driven by the physical law of Negative Entropy”. …”So, ‘God’ is the personification of Integrative Meaning…”

    Is entropy not the opposite – the breaking down of matter, and the decreasing of complexity? If so is it working against integrative meaning, or at least undoing this ‘purpose’? Perhaps taking it too far but; maybe this is the personification of the devil?

    I’m not a scientist or a creationist or anything really ;) so perhaps a little out of my depth hear but would love to understand a bit more.

    • christina tanner on February 10, 2017 at 9:20 pm

      What you say about entrophy being destructive could be true. The Devil was jealous of God and has always been striving to usurpe his place as ruler of the universe. Because we, as humans, have developed this huge alter ego, we have started becoming more like the Devil and less like God. Our scientists, doctors and mathematicians know think they know as much as God does and think they can do better than him. They think that by cracking the ‘God Code’ by genetic engineering, they can actually become God. God has decreed the order and purpose for the universe – he really does know best. Who are we to try and change his perfect creation?

  23. James on February 7, 2017 at 1:53 pm

    Is it possible to think of God, as a being of a higher loving frequency, a spark of consciousness that is able to manifest itself within us, as a idea to do good to others. Is it possible that when we are exposed to this frequency that it may actually be the language of God. Isn’t it said that in the beginning there was the word. Couldn’t it have been a frequency and not the word. Isn’t it also said that no one knows the name of God, could it be because his name is not a word but a frequency.

    • christina tanner on February 7, 2017 at 5:48 pm

      Yours is a beautiful description of God. In the bible God told Abraham when he asked of him “who are you?” – “I AM”, meaning “all you need to know is that I EXIST”. Just look out of your window at everything you see before you and rest assured that God does indeed exist in everything! Christina.

  24. James on February 6, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    Integration, driven by negative entropy, is a fascinating subject, as is the implication that humans have been ‘at odds’ with the process. It shatters the bleak view held by many that we are all just random bits of star dust driven to reproduce our genes and protect those closest to us (family etc) to gain reciprocity.
    Thank you for these posts – they are a reminder of the power of this explanation to explain so so much.

  25. Abe on February 5, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    “Consider the welfare of the whole ABOVE your own welfare”

    This doctrine of SELF-SACRIFICE is archaic and unnecessary.

    • paulM on February 6, 2017 at 8:18 am

      Griffith’s whole treatise is about the reasons humanity was selfless, and then became selfish during its evolutionary history. Specifically how our species was selfless before the human condition arose, and then how a clash between our emerging intellect and instincts caused us to become selfish.
      And then Griffith explains how with this rational, biological explanation for why our conscious mind had to diverge from our instinctive self means the need to be selfish is made redundant. Griffith’s treatise is very nuanced on this issue Abe. I suggest read chapter 3 of his book FREEDOM.

  26. Dave on February 5, 2017 at 12:19 pm

    What a great summary. It is amazing to think that though it took billions of years the end result of integration is love and humans genetically programmed to be good/love one another. Wow!!! It’s almost too much to grasp how that can be, but here it is in front of us. It brings awe, wonder and gratitude that we little humans resulted from this long, long process. It certainly points to some type of overall power of integration.

  27. nomad on February 4, 2017 at 8:30 am

    This is SO fascinating. I can also see how incendiary it might be if people think that in demystifying God, Griffith is somehow diminishing Him/it. But I dont think he is diminishing God in bringing understanding to it, I really don’t. God is love is integrative meaning is the force behind the whole universe. This should really bring atheists and the religious together.

  28. lloyd ross on February 4, 2017 at 7:59 am

    Theosophy is worth studying, if you have an OPEN MIND.

  29. amina alleear on February 4, 2017 at 5:25 am

    its not difficult to believe in god, as we follows elders since ages. but nowadays with complicating life and problems, we have faith that god is helping, but then, we ourselves drowing the same n again. where is god and his blessings. why it doesn’t work anymore. the Hindu will say, Its Kalyug. Means we are in an era where only proclaim its supremacy. But, Satan, is a hand made of God himself. Then why don’t he destroy the bad and give more facilities for human to live ever happily?

  30. Stefan Stefan on February 4, 2017 at 4:45 am

    What a wonderful post! Not only is it a great introduction to integrative meaning, but it’s also a brilliant summary for everyone who already knows about the concept.

    Keep up the great work!!

  31. Armand on February 4, 2017 at 4:29 am

    I take away from this article that “God” is the personification of Integrative Meaning and therefor we have to consider “God” as an imaginary person, a concept…an idea that brings solace to some people but an “idea” nevertheless. Please feel free to correct me if you see it otherwise.

    • christina tanner on February 5, 2017 at 4:41 am

      God is a force for good – integrated meaning is that force. God is the energy that brought about creation. The ‘big bang’ was not accidental – it was the result of all the necessary elements coming together (becoming integrated) and joining together for bigger and greater things to happen. In the same way, if everyone were to come together in their own little corner of the world and make it better, then we could make the whole world a better place.

  32. Alex J Morrey on February 4, 2017 at 2:00 am

    I’m working on the same thing. Please note!

    http://www.darkenergyflow.com

    Good Luck!

    Alex J

  33. Jonathan on February 4, 2017 at 1:56 am

    This is a really good overview.

    And so it makes sense to me that whenever our holy texts describe the actions or words of “God”, “The Lord”, “Yahweh”, “Allah”, whatever, that that is a personification/projection of our sense of integrative meaning/conscience (and the criticism we have felt along with it).

    You guys really should articulate that big picture point. It would be very irresponsible for anyone with a religious background to try come to terms with these ideas without that big picture understanding.

    Jews and Christians need to come to terms with “The Lord”/”Yahweh”, and Muslims need to come to terms with “Allah”, etc. Not having guidance on this big picture articulation can cause further upset.

  34. christina tanner on February 3, 2017 at 11:40 pm

    Today a beautiful robin took up residence on my patio. Who could hear his beautiful song and NOT believe in God. GOD really is love!!! Thankyou for all your beautiful messages – I will study them with great care. Good luck with your work for the world!

  35. Ronald Weaver on February 3, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    That’s very good. I like the illustration of particles becoming atoms, atoms becoming molecules etc. This’ll make it easier for me to talk about Negative Entropy to my family and friends.