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  • in reply to: Two major problems

    Dave
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    These are great questionss. One thing to consider is how nature organises as presented in Freedom.

    For info about the value and purpose of life outside the reductionist/mechanism approach try this from Stuart Kauffman. https://medium.com/@SeloSlav/what-is-the-adjacent-possible-17680e4d1198

    In this view everything cant be explained away by reductionism and what we do and contribute matters.

    in reply to: Being Young

    Dave
    Participant

    The HC really lets you know how fake and compromised you are, but so is everyone else in the world and you are not alone!!! The great thing is Freedom provides a path out of it. Having a way to deal with the HC really makes me feel less alone and happy, even if people in my family don’t accept it. Understanding the HC, frequenting this webpage and reading Freedom helps. There are also a lot of great tips in the videos. Music also helps and inspires me a lot (Pink Floyd, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell etc., just to name a few).

    in reply to: How does this change anything?

    Dave
    Participant

    I totally agree. Understanding is the first step, but transformation takes a long time after living for years with the HC and still living in an HC/denial world. I have a long way to go, but you have to take it one day at a time and “parent yourself” as you try and “go over the hill” as recommended in the transformation videos. Your alcohol analogy is a good one. I’m still addicted to getting wins and waste my time with meaningless stuff. We need HC anonymous!

    in reply to: What is the scientific evidence?

    Dave
    Participant

    I like to look at both Jeremy’s theory and what it predicts. It seems to me there is so much observational evidence (and empirical evidence in that each person is a human condition experiment in progress) supporting the theory and so much prediction success regarding human behavior that it is hard to honestly deny the ideas are correct. The changes in people that accept the ideas and “transform,” I think also supports the theory. All these osbervational and prediction successes are, I think, strong lines of evidence validating jeremy’s theory.

    I am surprised that some government or analytics business has not been using or adopting Jeremy’s theory to predict human behavior, control behavior and make lots of money.

    in reply to: Anyone Read the book Sapiens

    Dave
    Participant

    I wish Harari would read Freedom. In the book he says how is it possible that bonobos live in female dominated societies, but why not humans. We cooperate, so why not female leaders? He concludes “we don’t know” why men dominate. This and a million other questions are clearly answered in Freedom. The thing I really like about Sapiens is it clearly asks the big questions that Freedom can answer.

    in reply to: Anyone Read the book Sapiens

    Dave
    Participant

    Hi PaulM, thanks for the reply. What I was trying to say about the book is that it shows what happened to us because of the HC. The author does not know about WTM info, but HC understanding can explain why a lot of crazy, destructive things happened.

    Unlike religion and other made up myths discussed in the book, HC info gives us real understanding, real context and a real, natural instinct based path to follow without the need for myths. The HC is not a myth and finally humans can live real lives not based on total bull shit!

    It has been going on so long it will hard to change, but change we must!

    in reply to: "Let me tell you why you’re here"

    Dave
    Participant

    Thanks

    The WTM has helped my life so much for the better.

    in reply to: Mechanistic Science and the Deaf Effect

    Dave
    Participant

    Thanks Susan. HC understanding is both liberating and scary as we head towards end game.

    in reply to: Religion vs Human Condition

    Dave
    Participant

    Hello,

    I want to respond to: “Religion vs. the Human Condition” is one of the most humbling of discussions, as both cannot be proved definitively as of yet.” I just wanted to note that science can prove some things definitively or to the point where the evidence is so overwhelming that there is no other explanation and very little uncertainty. One of the good things about science is recognizing uncertainties or areas where more data/explanation may be needed, but it is a constant march towards understanding. A classic example is gravity. Newton’s Laws prevailed for hundreds of years and are still rock soild in 99.9999 percent of cases on Earth, but Einstein updated Newton when he looked at things on huge scales and light speeds. Newton’s laws are definitive in most cases, but in a few other cases (precession of Mercury etc.) there was uncertainty until Einstein gave us relativity. Newton described gravity (laws), but Relativity gives an explanation/theory of what causes gravity – a huge update (J Griffith gave us a huge update with regard to human behavior!). Religion is about dogma and salvation and does not look at things in terms of uncertainty. There is no room in religion to modify the dogma (e.g., do away with Jesus etc.), if something new comes along. In all cases I can think of (Noah’s Ark, Adam and Eve, Age of the Earth, the Exodus etc.) science has definitively shown these ideas to be incorrect. The idea of an afterlife can’t be tested, so there is no way for science to approach this topic. In my view, religion is dogmatic/biased (not open minded or changing) and about spirituality and feelings and science is unbiased, changeable and based on facts, allowing for decision making and understandings. This being said, I do agree with the HC discussions that today’s science is mechanistic-giving us a very bleak view of human life and our future, but that is another discussion! This will be a big, very humbling change for science in the future.

    Last note is that Einstein gave us Relativity that lead to GPS and other technologies and understandings and other great scientists have given us huge advances in medicine etc., but J Griffith has given us a theory that can lead to harmony, love, world peace and happiness for humans. The greatest discovery ever made. It makes me feel good to type this!!!

    in reply to: Religion vs Human Condition

    Dave
    Participant

    Hi,

    The word Theory as used in science is considered an explanation based on many lines of evidence and lots of facts. Evolution, the Big Bang, Plate Tectonics, Germ Theory are a few examples of solid science theories or big picture explanations that are widely accepted by the science community because the theories are so well vaiidated. The HC could be put in this category as a science theory or explanation of human behavior. Much more science data will be collected to further validate HC theory in the future. Some day it is my hope HC theory will be as accepted as the other theories listed above. I also hope someday J Griffith will be widely known name like Darwin, Einstein Wegener etc.

    I think Jeremy uses Adam and Eve as a metaphor for all humans as they search for knowledge. When humans developed consciousness it conflicted with the instincts – hence leaving behind the Garden of Eden and going into the world to find understanding.

    Also, wanted to add that a science theory can be used to make accurate predictions. These predictions can then be tested. In my view HC theory does allow for accurate, precise prediction about human behavior. In my view the ability of the HC to predict and confirm predictions puts it solidly in the realm of science and a science theory.

    My 2 cents

    Dave

    in reply to: Religion vs Human Condition

    Dave
    Participant

    Hi,

    I have had similar experiences with science and religion. One thing that helped me is to know is that science is based on facts that are repeatable and provable by others and religion is based feelings and things that can’t be repeated. For example, you can have a spiritual feeling that tells you something is true/real, but you can’t prove it and no one else can disprove it. In other words, feelings are not repeatable by others.

    The HC information is science, which means is it repeatable and based on facts, not feelings or intuition. Knowing about the HC may make you feel good, but the science behind it is not feeling based.

    Dave

    in reply to: Video of the HC and alienation

    Dave
    Participant

    Made me sad too. WTM helps!

    in reply to: Albatross

    Dave
    Participant

    Hi Dave H,

    I enjoyed reading your lament. Hopefully, we have found Eden with the WTM! My problem is how to survive in a world with people that don’t have WTM understandng and how to get them interested. It helps me be empathetic and walk a mile in their shoes. HC understanding also helps me love my family more and love or at least understand everyone.

    Dave

    in reply to: New Psychology Videos

    Dave
    Participant

    Hi Roger,

    Thanks for the reply and insight and relief about my kids and grandkids. I plan to do what I can. My wife is, of course, a real natural at nuture and together maybe we can help the kids along the way.

    Dave

    in reply to: Human Cooperation

    Dave
    Participant

    Thanks for the reply. Its exciting for me to see this stuff. I want it to happen!

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