THE Interview

 

 

Transcript of THE Interview

 

Contents

Background to THE Interview

 

Part 1.   The psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real biological explanation of the human condition

 

Part 2.   Since this instinct vs intellect explanation is reasonably obvious, why haven’t we been taught it at school?

 

Part 3.   How did we humans acquire our instinctive cooperative and loving moral conscience?

 

Part 4.   How does the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible actually occur?

 

Background to THE Interview

 

 

About Jeremy Griffith (pictured right)

Jeremy is an Australian biologist who has dedicated his life to bringing fully accountable, biological understanding to the dilemma of the human condition; which is the underlying issue in all human life of our species’ extraordinary capacity for what has been called ‘good’ and ‘evil’.

Jeremy has published six books on the human condition, including the Australasian bestseller A Species In Denial (2003), and his definitive treatise, FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition (2016).

His work has attracted the support of such eminent scientists as the former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association Professor Harry Prosen, Australia’s Templeton Prize-winning biologist Professor Charles Birch, the Former President of the Primate Society of Great Britain Dr David Chivers, Nobel Prize winning physicist Stephen Hawking, as well as other distinguished thinkers such as Sir Laurens van der Postsee www.humancondition.com/​#commendations.

Jeremy is the founder and patron of the World Transformation Movement (WTM)see www.humancondition.com.

 

 

About FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition

Jeremy’s book FREEDOM, which this interview is about, presents the reconciling and psychologically healing biological explanation of our ‘good and evil’ stricken human condition. In doing so it unravels the core mystery behind human behaviour, thus ending suffering and conflict at its sourceand providing the now urgently needed road map for the complete transformation of our lives and world.

FREEDOM was launched at the Royal Geographical Society in London in 2016, with the keynote address by Sir Bob Geldof. It is freely available at www.humancondition.com, or you can purchase hard copies at bookstores, including Amazon.

 

About Craig Conway

Craig is an internationally acclaimed English actor, writer, producer and director who has worked in theatre, TV and film for three decades. On stage Craig has created projects for theatre companies including The National Theatre, The Royal Shakespeare Company, The Northern Stage Ensemble (Founder member) and the Contact Theatre Manchester. On screen, he has starred in films such as Final Score with Pierce Brosnan, The Current War with Benedict Cumberbatch and The Courier with Gary Oldman. His TV credits include Vera, Wire In the Blood, George Gently, Our Friends In The North. Craig is a member of the Writers’ Guild of Great Britain.

In recent times Craig has developed an interest in radio and now presents his own program on NTRsounds in north east England.

Read more about Craig at: www.craigconwayofficial.com.

Craig first learnt of Jeremy’s explanation of the human condition in early 2019 and became so impressed by it he started a WTM Centre in north east England to promote it; see www.WTMNorthEastEngland.​com.

 

 

 

Part 1 of THE Interview

 

The psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real
biological explanation of the human condition

 

Craig Conway: Hello to everyone listening. My name is Craig Conway. Now, whilst I’ve been an actor by profession, very recently I’ve been introduced to doing radio where I talk to people from all over the world. Well, today I have a very, very special guest on the line from Australia.

The turmoil and trauma of this coronavirus pandemic has only amplified the now dire need in the world for a deeper, lasting solution to all the chaos and suffering in human life. And this deeper enduring solution is actually what this biologist I’m about to interview is going to provide us with. He is going to do it by explaining and solving the underlying cause of all the suffering, which is our ‘good and evil’ stricken so-called human condition.

So I don’t care what you’re doing, you need to stop and listen to this interview. In fact, I don’t care what you do for the rest of your life, if you can you just need to listen to this!

The interview will be in four parts, each averaging 15 minutes, which is not a lot when you consider that we’re going to be explaining the whole human condition!

So it’s a great privilege to introduce Australian biologist Jeremy Griffith. He’s the author of a book titled FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition, and this is my copy, which I’ve had with me now for quite a long time and I take it everywhere with me, and there are now millions of people all over the globe studying, reading and researching through this book that Jeremy has brought to us. [Craig learnt of Jeremy’s explanation of the human condition in early 2019, and became so impressed by it he started a WTM Centre in north east England to promote it; see www.WTMNorthEastEngland.​com.]

So, I’m here to tell everyone that this book has not only blown me away, it has also impressed Professor Harry Prosen, who is a former president of the Canadian Psychiatric Associationso he’s one of the world’s leading psychiatristsand he said, and I quote, ‘I have no doubt Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race. This is the book we have been waiting for, it is the book that saves the world.’ End quote.

Now, I think everyone listening would agree that ‘the psychological rehabilitation of the human race’ is exactly what this world needs! So buckle into your seats, this is going to be the most interestingand excitingtalk you have ever heard.

So Jeremy, thank you for talking with us. Tell us, how does your work bring about ‘the psychological rehabilitation of the human race’ and end all the suffering and strife, and, as Professor Prosen said, ‘save the world’?

 

Jeremy Griffith: Thank you very much for having me on your program Craig. Finding understanding of our psychologically troubled human condition has actually been what the efforts of every human who has ever lived has been dedicated to achieving and has contributed to finding. As Professor Prosen said, finding understanding of the human condition has been ‘the holy grail’ of the whole human journey of conscious thought and enquiry.

We humans have absolutely lived in hope, faith and trust that one day, somewhere, some place, all the efforts of everyonebut of scientists in particularwould finally produce the completely redeeming, uplifting and healing understanding of us humans. I know it must seem outrageous to claim that this goal of goals has finally been achieved, but it has. In fact, the human condition is such a difficult subject for us humans to confront and deal with that I couldn’t be talking about it so openly and freely if it hadn’t been solved.

 

Craig: Okay then Jeremy, solve the human condition for us, we’re all ears!

 

Jeremy: Firstly, I’m a biologist, and that’s important because I think everyone will agree that what we need is a non-abstract, non-mystical, completely rational and thus understandable, scientific, biological explanation of us humans.

So how are we to explain and understand the human condition, understand why we humans are the way we are, so brutally competitive, selfish and aggressive that human life has become all but unbearable. In fact, how are we to make so much sense of our divisive behaviour that the underlying cause of it is so completely explained and understood that, as Professor Prosen said, the whole of the human race is psychologically rehabilitated and everyone’s life is transformed?

 

Craig: Yes, that’s what we want; the human condition finally explained, fixed up and healed forever!

 

Jeremy: Exactly Craig. So, to start at the beginning, I know everyone listening is living with the beliefwell it’s what we were all taught at school and are told in every documentarythat humans’ competitive, selfish and aggressive behaviour is due to us having savage, must-reproduce-our-genes instincts like other animals have.

 

 

I mean, our conversations are saturated with this belief, with comments like: ‘We are programmed by our genes to try to dominate others and be a winner in the battle of life’; and ‘Our preoccupation with sexual conquest is due to our primal instinct to sow our seeds’; and ‘Men behave abominably because their bodies are flooded with must-reproduce-their-genes-promoting testosterone’; and ‘We want a big house because we are innately territorial’; and ‘Fighting and war is just our deeply-rooted combative animal nature expressing itself’and the most common comment of all Craig is that ‘It’s just human nature to be selfish’.

 

Craig: Yes, that’s exactly what I’ve understood is the reason for our competitive and aggressive naturethat we have brutally competitive, survival-of-the-fittest instincts, which we are always having to try to restrain or civilise or try to control as best we can; I mean that’s what I was taught in school.

 

Jeremy: Yes, that’s what we were taught, but let’s think about thisand what I’m going to say now is very important, so I hope everyone’s listening closely.

Surely this idea that we have savage competitive and aggressive, must-reproduce-our-genes instincts cannot be the real reason for our species’ competitive and aggressive behaviour because, after all, words used to describe our human behaviour such as egocentric, arrogant, inspired, depressed, deluded, pessimistic, optimistic, artificial, hateful, cynical, mean, sadistic, immoral, brilliant, guilt-ridden, evil, psychotic, neurotic and alienated, all recognise the involvement of OUR species’ fully conscious thinking mind. They demonstrate that there is a psychological dimension to our behaviour; that we don’t suffer from a genetic-opportunism-driven ‘animal condition’, but a conscious-mind-based, psychologically troubled HUMAN CONDITION.

 

Our ape ancestors were not savage, barbaric brutes as they have for so
long been portrayed, but rather they were innocent, loving nurturers as
depicted below by the paleoartist Jay H. Matternes in Science magazine.

 

What’s more, we humans have cooperative, selfless and loving moral instincts, the voice or expression of which we call our consciencewhich is the complete opposite of competitive, selfish and aggressive instincts. As Charles Darwin said, ‘The moral sense…​affords the best and highest distinction between man and the lower animals’ (The Descent of Man, 1871, ch.4). Of course, to have acquired these cooperative, selfless and loving moral instincts our distant ape ancestors must have lived cooperatively, selflessly and lovingly, otherwise how else could we have acquired them? Our ape ancestors can’t have been brutal, club-wielding, competitive and aggressive savages as we have been taught, rather they must have lived in a Garden of Eden-like state of cooperative, selfless and loving innocent gentlenesswhich, as I’d like to explain to you later in this interview Craig, is a state that the bonobo species of ape is currently living in, and which anthropological findings now evidence we did once live in. For instance, anthropologists like C. Owen Lovejoy are reporting that ‘our species-defining cooperative mutualism can now be seen to extend well beyond the deepest Pliocene [which is well beyond 5.3 million years ago](‘Reexamining Human Origins in Light of Ardipithecus ramidus’, Science, 2009, Vol.326, No.5949).

 

Large group of Bonobos

Group of bonobos

 

‘Breakthrough of the Year’: cover of the
December 2009 issue of Science magazine

Paleoartist reconstruction of the 4.4 millian year old human ancestor, Ardipithecus ramidus standing in its natural habitat

Matternes’s reconstruction of the 4.4 mya
Ardipithecus ramidus in its natural habitat

 

So saying our competitive and aggressive behaviour comes from savage competitive and aggressive instincts in us is simply not trueas I’d like to come back to shortly, it’s just a convenient excuse we have used while we waited for the psychosis-acknowledging-and-solving, real explanation of our present competitive and aggressive human condition!

 

Craig: Wow, so that’s a pretty big statement Jeremy, I mean it’s a pretty important point you’re making here. You’re saying that our competitive and aggressive behaviour is not due to must-reproduce-our-genes instincts like other animals, but is due to a conscious-mind-based, psychologically troubled condition, yes?

 

Jeremy: Yes, our egocentric and arrogant and mean and vindictive and even sadistic behaviour has nothing to do with wanting to reproduce our genes. That was absurd. And it is actually really good news that our behaviour is due to a conscious-mind-based psychologically troubled condition because psychoses can be healed with understanding. If our competitive and aggressive behaviour was due to us having savage instincts then we would be stuck with that born-with, hard-wired, innate behaviour. It would mean we could only ever hope to restrain and control those supposedly brutal instincts. But since our species’ divisive behaviour is due to a psychosis, that divisive behaviour can be cured with healing understanding. So that is very good news. In fact, incredibly exciting news, because with understanding we can finally end our psychologically troubled human condition. It’s the understanding of ourselves that we needed to heal the pain in our brains and become sound and sane again.

 

 

As I said, the ‘savage instincts’ explanation was just a convenient excuse while we searched for the psychosis-addressing-and-solving real explanation of our divisive behaviour, which is the explanation I would now like to present.

 

Craig: Okay, so what you’re saying here, Jeremy, is that we don’t need the convenient excuse anymore that we have some kind of savage animal instincts because we have the real explanation of our conscious-mind-based psychologically troubled human condition!

 

Jeremy: Yes, and this key, all-important, psychosis-addressing-and-solving explanation is actually very obvious.

If we think about it, if an animal was to become fully conscious, like we humans became, then that animal’s new self-managing, understanding-based conscious mind would surely have to challenge its pre-existing instinctive orientations to the world, wouldn’t it? A battle would have to break out between the emerging conscious mind that operates from a basis of understanding cause and effect and the non-understanding instincts that have always controlled and dictated how that animal behaves.

 

Craig: Yes, that makes sense Jeremy, so what happened though when this animal became conscious and its whole life turned into a psychologically distressed mess?

 

Jeremy: Well, the easiest way to see what happened is to imagine the predicament faced by an animal whose life had always been controlled by its instincts suddenly developing a conscious mind, because if we do that we will very quickly see how that animal would develop a psychologically troubled competitive and aggressive condition like we suffer from.

So let’s imagine a stork: we’ll call him Adam. Each Summer, Adam instinctually migrates North with the other storks around the coast of Africa to Europe to breed, as some varieties of storks do. Since he has no conscious mind Adam Stork doesn’t think about or question his behaviour, he just follows what his instincts tell him to do.

 

 

But what if we give Adam a large brain capable of conscious thought? He will start to think for himself, but many of his new ideas will not be consistent with his instincts. For instance, while migrating North with the other storks Adam notices an island full of apple trees. He then makes a conscious decision to divert from his migratory path and explore the island. It’s his first grand experiment in self-management.

 

 

The Story of Adam Stork - 4. Disobedient Adam

Drawings by Jeremy Griffith © 1991-2016 Fedmex Pty Ltd

 

But when Adam’s instincts realise he has strayed off course they are going to criticise his deprogrammed behaviour and dogmatically try to pull him back on his instinctive flight path, aren’t they! In effect, they are going to condemn him as being bad.

 

 

Imagine the turmoil Adam will experience: he can’t go back to simply following his instincts. His instinctive orientations to the migratory flight path were acquired over thousands of generations of natural selection but those orientations are not understandings, and since his conscious mind requires understanding, which it can only get through experimentation, inevitably a war will break out with his instincts.

Ideally at this point Adam’s conscious mind would sit down and explain to his instincts why he’s defying them. He would explain that the gene-based, natural selection process only gives species instinctive orientations to the world, whereas his nerve-based, conscious mind, which is able to make sense of cause and effect, needs understanding of the world to operate.

 

 

But Adam doesn’t have this self-understanding. He’s only just begun his search for knowledge. In fact, he’s not even aware of what the problem actually is. He’s simply started to feel that he’s bad, even evil.

 

Craig: Okay, so what you’re saying is a war has broken out between his conscious mind and his instincts, which he can’t explain, and it’s left him feeling bad or that he is bad in some way, or even evil. So what happened then?

 

Jeremy: Well, tragically, while searching for understanding, we can see that three things are unavoidably going to happen. Adam is going to defensively retaliate against the implied criticism from his instincts; he is going to desperately seek out any reinforcement he can find to relieve himself of the negative feelings; and he is going to try to deny the criticism and block it out of his mind. He has become angry, egocentric and alienatedwhich is the psychologically upset state we call the human condition, because it was us humans who developed a conscious mind and became psychologically upset. (And ‘upset’ is the right word for our condition because while we are not ‘evil’ or ‘bad’, we are definitely psychologically upset from having to participate in humanity’s heroic search for knowledge. ‘Corrupted’ and ‘fallen’ have been used to describe our condition, but they have negative connotations that we can now appreciate are undeserved, so ‘upset’ is a better word.)

So Adam’s intellect or ‘ego’ (ego being just another word for the intellect since the Concise Oxford Dictionary defines ‘ego’ as ‘the conscious thinking self’ (5th edn, 1964)) became ‘centred’ or focused on the need to justify itselfAdam became ego-centric, selfishly preoccupied aggressively competing for opportunities to prove he is good and not bad, to validate his worth, to get a ‘win’; to essentially eke out any positive reinforcement that would bring him some relief from his criticising instincts. He unavoidably became self-preoccupied or selfish, and aggressive and competitive.

 

 

So our selfish, competitive and aggressive behaviour is not due to savage instincts but to a psychologically upset state or condition.

Basically suffering psychological upset was the price we conscious humans had to pay for our heroic search for understanding. In the words from the song The Impossible Dream from the musical the Man of La Mancha, we had to be prepared to ‘march into hell for a heavenly cause’ (lyrics by Joe Darion, 1965). We had to lose ourselves to find ourselves; we had to suffer becoming angry, alienated and egocentric until we found sufficient knowledge to explain ourselves.

 

Craig: Wow Jeremy, I mean this is just fascinating. So Adam Storkwe humansdeveloped a conscious mind and unavoidably started warring with our instincts, an upsetting war which could only end when we could explain and understand why we had to defy our instincts, which is the understanding that you have just supplied, yes?

 

Jeremy: Exactly, remember Adam Stork became defensively angry, egocentric and alienated because he couldn’t explain why he was defying his instincts, so now that we can explain why, those defensive behaviours are no longer needed and can end!

That’s basically all there is to explain, that is the biological explanation of the human condition that so explains us that, as Professor Prosen said, it brings about ‘the psychological rehabilitation of the human race’! A vaccine for this terrible virus would be good, but infinitely more precious and needed is a vaccine for the human condition, a cure for it, and that’s what’s just been presented.

 

 

 

Craig: This is such a simple story but so far-reaching in its ramificationsI mean it is world-changing is what it is, because it truly enables ‘the psychological rehabilitation of the human race’! I mean that is just wonderful.

Okay, I’m speaking with Australian biologist Jeremy Griffith.

 

 

Part 2

 

Since this instinct vs intellect
explanation is reasonably obvious,
why haven’t we been taught it at school?

 

Craig: Hello, I’m Craig Conway and I’m talking with Australian biologist Jeremy Griffith about how we can end all the turmoil and trauma in the world through explaining and understanding the human conditionwhich is the instinct vs intellect explanation Jeremy has just given us in Part 1 of this interview.

I do have some questions Jeremy. Firstly, while it seems an obvious explanation that when we became conscious a psychologically upsetting battle must have broken out with our dictatorial instincts, but if it is so obvious, why weren’t we taught this at school? And secondly, how were our bonobo-like ape ancestors able to become cooperative and loving, which, as you said, must be the origin of our instinctive moral conscience that Darwin said distinguishes us from other animals? And my third question is, how does ‘the psychological rehabilitation of the human race’ that Professor Prosen describes actually take place; I mean do we all have to go into therapy or something?

Okay, by the way, I want to mention also that since there’s quite a few newand very interestingconcepts to think about, Jeremy has said that he’ll make both the video and the transcript of this interview available at the top of the website that promotes this understanding of the human condition, which is the World Transformation Movement’s website at HumanCondition.com. Now this interview will be there as a video, and the transcript as a little free book, so you can re-listen to, or read the interview again there, because, as I said, with this big subject of the human condition, there is quite a bit to take in and think about.

 

Jeremy: Okay, they are very good questions Craig.

So, to begin with your first question, which is that if this instinct vs intellect explanation is so obvious why haven’t we been taught it at school?

The answer is that while it has been recognisedeven from ancient timesthat the emergence of our conscious mind somehow caused us to ‘fall from grace’, or however you want to describe the corruption of our original innocent cooperative, selfless and loving instinctive state, it wasn’t until science revealed the difference between the gene-based and nerve-based learning systemswhich is that genes can orientate but nerves need to understandthat we were finally in a position to explain the good reason for our angry, egocentric and alienated human condition.

The Biblical story of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden that Moses wrote so long ago in about 1,500 BC actually perfectly describes the psychologically upsetting battle that emerged between our instincts and conscious intellect. It says Adam and Eve/​we humans took the ‘fruit’ (Genesis 3:3) ‘from the tree of knowledge’ (Gen. 2:9, 17) and were ‘disobedient’ (the term widely used in descriptions of Gen. 3). In other words, we developed a conscious mind and free will. But in that pre-scientific story it says Adam and Eve then became ‘evil’ (Gen. 3:22) perpetrators of ‘sin’ (Gen. 4:7) because they became angry, egocentric and alienated, and as a result Moses said they were ‘banished…​from the Garden of Eden’ (Gen. 3:23) state of cooperative and loving innocence.

 

Painting of Adam and Eve by Lucas Cranach the Elder

Adam and Eve,
by Lucas Cranach the Elder (1526)

Lithograph of Adam and Eve being cast out of Paradise, c.1880

Adam and Eve cast out of Paradise, from Old Testament Stories
pub. Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge, London (c.1880)

 

You see, not knowing how naturally selected instincts differ from cause and effect-operating consciousness, this story of Adam and Eve becoming conscious could only conclude that the angry, egocentric and alienated condition that emerged when we became conscious was a bad, evil, sinful state, but this scientific presentation says, ‘No, no, that story got it wrong’. Adam and Eve are actually not just good but the heroes of the whole story of life on Earthbecause surely the conscious mind is nature’s greatest invention and to be given the task of searching for understanding while the whole world’s condemning you was the hardest and toughest of tasksbecause that condemnation was universal. All the other innocent storks are condemning the search for knowledge, and since all of naturethe rain, the clouds, the trees, and other animalsare all associated with our original instinctive self that was condemning us, the whole world, in effect, ganged up on Adam and Eve, i.e. us humansand yet all the time we were good and not bad but we couldn’t explain why, but now at last through the benefit of science, we can.

 

Craig: Yeah, I hadn’t realised that, but it is true, I mean Adam and Eve taking the fruit from the tree of knowledge is a metaphor for becoming conscious, and then they were thrown out of the Garden of Eden of original innocence because it appeared that they were bad for doing so, but now thankfully we can explain that they, we humans, weren’t bad at all; in fact, we are the heroes of the story of life on Earth!

 

Jeremy: That’s right, we can now explain and understand that we conscious humans are immense heroes, and not villains after all. How relieving is that!

 

American journalist and educator, Richard Heinberg giving a public presentation

Richard Heinberg (1950– )

 

And with regard to recognition of the upsetting conflict between our moral instincts and our conscious intellect, the Biblical story of Adam and Eve is far from the only recognition of it from ancient times. Indeed, as the researcher Richard Heinberg summarised in his 1990 book Memories & Visions of Paradise (underlinings are Jeremy’s emphasis), ‘Every religion begins with the recognition that human consciousness has been separated from the divine Source, that a former sense of oneness…​has been lost…​everywhere in religion and myth there is an acknowledgment that we have departed from an original…​innocence and can return to it only through the resolution of some profound inner discord…​the cause of the Fall is described variously as disobedience, as the eating of a forbidden fruit [from the tree of knowledge], and as spiritual amnesia [forgetting, blocking out, denial, alienation, which is our psychosis](pp.81-82 of 282). So all our religions and most of our mythologies have recognised the basic conflict within usthat the emergence of ‘consciousness’ caused our ‘Fall’ from ‘innocence’.

 

Detail of a mosaic by Monnus of Hesiod, 3rd century; in the Rhenish State Museum, Trier, Ger.

Hesiod, from the Monnus mosaic, c.200

 

Way back in about 800 BC, the Greek poet Hesiod wrote of our species’ pre-conscious time of living cooperatively and lovingly in his epic poem Works and Days: ‘When gods alike and mortals rose to birth / A golden race the immortals formed on earth…​Like gods they lived, with calm untroubled mind / Free from the toils and anguish of our kind / Nor e’er decrepit age misshaped their frame…​Strangers to ill, their lives in feasts flowed by…​Dying they sank in sleep, nor seemed to die / Theirs was each good; the life-sustaining soil / Yielded its copious fruits, unbribed by toil / They with abundant goods ’midst quiet lands / All willing shared the gathering of their hands’ (The Remains of Hesiod the Ascræan, tr. C.A. Elton, pp.17-18). So yes, they didn’t have a troubled conscious mind, and they lived a sharing, gentle life.

 

Craig: Yes, I’ve heard of the idea of a ‘golden race’, but I didn’t actually know where it came from. So what you’re saying then, Jeremy, is our distant ancestors had a ‘calm untroubled mind’no human condition yet!

 

Jeremy: Yes, that’s right, and in 360 BC Hesiod’s Greek compatriot Plato gave this very similar description of our species’ pre-conscious time in innocence. He wrote: ‘there was a time when…​we beheld the beatific vision and were initiated into a mystery which may be truly called most blessed, celebrated by us in our state of innocence, before we had any experience of evils to come, when we were admitted to the sight of apparitions innocent and simple and calm and happy, which we beheld shining in pure light, pure ourselves and not yet enshrined in that living tomb which we carry about, now’ (Phaedrus; tr. B. Jowett, 1871, 250).

 

Triptych showing marble bust of Plato and the covers of his books Phaedrus and The Statesman

Plato, c.428–348 BC; Phaedrus; Statesman

 

Plato also gave this other description of the innocent ‘Golden Age’ in our species’ pre-conscious past, writing of a time when we lived a ‘blessed and spontaneous life…​[where] neither was there any violence, or devouring of one another, or war or quarrel among them…​In those days God himself was their shepherd, and ruled over them [in other words, our original instinctive self was orientated to living in an ideal cooperative, loving way]…​Under him there were no forms of government or separate possession of women and children; for all men rose again from the earth, having no memory of the past [in other words, we lived in a pre-conscious state]. And…​the earth gave them fruits in abundance, which grew on trees and shrubs unbidden, and were not planted by the hand of man. And they dwelt naked, and mostly in the open air, for the temperature of their seasons was mild; and they had no beds, but lay on soft couches of grass, which grew plentifully out of the earth’ (The Statesman, c.350 BC; tr. B. Jowett, 1871, 271-272).

The thing is, Hesiod and Plato, like Moses, were living at a time when science still had to be developed, so they weren’t able to provide the redeeming, instincts-can-orientate-but-only-nerves-can-understand, good reason WHY we departed from ‘innocence’ and seemingly became ‘evil’, bad people.

 

Craig: Yes, because there was no science back then.

 

Jeremy: Precisely, it’s only in the last 150 years or so that science has given us A: the ability to know that the gene-based natural selection process gives species orientations to the world; and B: the knowledge of our nerves and how they are able to remember events, which, much developed, has led to our mind being able to sufficiently understand the relationship between cause and effect to become conscious of, or aware of, or intelligent about those relationships. So that’s only happened in the last 150 years, but since the fossil record of our ancestors suggests that our large association-cortexed, thinking, fully conscious brain appeared some 2 million years ago, that means for almost all of the 2 million years we have been conscious we have had no ability to explain and understand why we corrupted our original innocent instinctive self or soul. And without that redeeming explanation the only way we could cope with the astronomical guilt of having destroyed ‘Eden’, has been to deny we ever lived in a cooperative and loving innocent stateand that’s exactly where the excuse that we have savage competitive and aggressive instincts like other animals came to our rescue.

And, false as it is, it’s been an absolutely brilliant excuse because instead of our instincts being all-loving and thus unbearably condemning of our present non-loving state, they are made out to be vicious and brutal must-reproduce-your-genes instincts like other animals; and, instead of our conscious mind being the instinct-defying cause of our corruption, it was made out to be the blameless mediating ‘hero’ that had to step in and try to control those supposed vicious instincts within us! And those who dared to admit the truth of our cooperative and loving past, like Hesiod and Plato, were dismissed as deluded romantics, and the whole idea of an innocent, Edenic past was said to be nothing more than a nostalgia for the security and maternal warmth of infancy, that it was ‘never an historical state’ as the Jungian psychologist Erich Neumann said in his book The Origins and History of Consciousness (1949, p.15 of 493).

 

Erich Neumann

Erich Neumann (1905–1960)

 

 

Craig: Yes, and we couldn’t face the truth that we had turned utopia into dystopia, into a dreadful place of conflict and suffering, yes?

 

Jeremy: Yes that’s right Craig, and I should point out that while most contemporary thinkers have clung to the savage instincts excuse for our divisive behaviour, there have been some who, like the ancient thinkers, truthfully recognised the basic instinct vs intellect elements involved in producing the human condition. Eugène Marais, Paul MacLean and Arthur Koestler are a few who come to mind.

 

A selection of science books based upon the ‘savage instincts’ excuse for human behaviour

Some of the many science books accounting for human
behaviour using the false ‘savage instincts’ excuse.

 

Eugene Marais, Paul Maclean, Arthur Koestler beside covers of their books

Eugène Marais (1871–1936), Paul MacLean (1913–2007) and Arthur Koestler (1905–1983)

 

But while all contemporary thinkers have had the benefit of science having revealed the difference between the gene-based and nerve-based learning systems, and have therefore had the means to truthfully explain the human condition, those who did recognise the basic instinct vs intellect elements didn’t take their thinking far enough to actually explain the human condition. And those who have been attached to the false savage instincts excusewhich is the great majority of scientistsobviously haven’t been thinking truthfully, so they couldn’t hope to explain the human condition. Which is all why it has taken the truthful thinking of the pre-eminent South African philosopher Sir Laurens van der Post, and following him, myself, to finally present the complete, true explanation of the human condition.

 

Craig: Okay. And Jeremy, I assume that people can read about the contemporary thinkers who recognised the instinct vs intellect elements involved in the human condition, and those who clung to the savage instincts excuse, on the World Transformation Movement’s website at HumanCondition.com?

 

The most famous book by Sir Laurens van der Post (1906–1996) (left) is The Lost World
of the Kalahari
, which is about the relatively innocent Bushmen or San people of
the Kalahari Desert. Its title can be interpreted as ‘the lost world of our soul’.

 

 

Jeremy: Yes, they can, in particular in the fourth video at the top of the homepage.

Also, how Sir Laurens van der Post and I managed to address and solve the human condition is described in my 2020 book How Laurens van der Post Saved The World, which is also freely available on that website. Basically, what is explained in that book is that since everyone is naturally variously psychologically upset from their different encounters with humanity’s battle to find knowledge, there was always going to be a few who were fortunate enough in their infancy and childhood to escape encountering the angry, egocentric and alienated effects of that upsetting battle, and it is these few who could look into the human condition without being overly confronted by itand Sir Laurens and I were two of these extremely fortunate denial-free thinking people, which is how we were able to find understanding of the human condition.

I should also say that while there is growing support for this now absolutely desperately needed understanding of the human condition, mainstream science is yet to recognise and support itbut that’s what happens with paradigm-shifting, breakthroughs in science. When the physicist Max Planck said ‘Science progresses funeral by funeral’ (Marilyn Ferguson’s reference to a comment by Planck in his Scientific Autobiography, 1948; New Age mag. Aug. 1982; see www.wtmsources.com/174) he was recognising how attached each generation of scientists becomes to the way of thinking they grew up with, and therefore how slow science as a whole is to move to a new paradigm of understanding. And the playwright George Bernard Shaw also warned of how difficult it is to introduce a new paradigm of thinkingespecially one that dares to confront the historically unbearably confronting and off-limits subject of the human conditionwhen he said that ‘All great truths begin as blasphemies’ (Annajanska, 1919). So yes, confronting the human condition when everyone has been living in fearful denial of it, even though it has finally been explained and made safe to confront, represents the biggest of all ‘blasphemies’.

 

Craig: Yeah, I understand completely. I mean from my limited experience, Jeremy, I know how difficult it is to get people to change their way of thinking. But your basic point is that science’s discovery of the way genes and nerves work has finally made it possible for the liberation of humanity from the horror of the human condition.

 

Jeremy: Yes, that is the essential truth: science is the liberator, the so-called ‘messiah’ or ‘redeemer’ of humankind, as we always hoped it would be!

 

Craig: And all this is in the nick of time Jeremy, because I actually don’t think the world can cope with any more upset behaviour from us humansbut of course we still need the scientific community to get on board and support this understanding.

 

Jeremy: Absolutely. While we’ve had to live in denial of our corrupted, psychologically upset condition while we couldn’t explain it, the truth is that on a graph showing the ever-increasing levels of upset in humans, those levels, especially of psychosis and alienation, have been increasing so rapidly lately that the line tracking their rise is near vertical with the amount of upset virtually doubling now in each new generation! Freedom Essays 55 & 59 on our World Transformation Movement’s website describes this terrifying end play threat of terminal levels of psychosis. Basically, we had virtually lost the race between self-destruction and self-understanding.

 

Graph showing the ever-increasing levels of upset in humans and the threat of terminal psychosis

The race between self-destruction and self-understanding

 

Indeed, early last century the author Antoine de Saint-Exupéry wrote that ‘We are living through deeply anxious days, and if we are to relieve our anxiety we must diagnose its cause…​What is the meaning of man? To this question no answer is being offered, and I have the feeling that we are moving toward the darkest era our world has ever known’ (A Sense of Life, pub. 1965, pp.127, 219 of 231), and the ‘deeply anxious days’ have very greatly increased in the century since then, so we are now very much in the midst of ‘the darkest era our world has ever known’so this world-saving, ‘reliev[ing]-of-the-‘cause’, understanding of ‘the meaning of man’, has definitely only arrived in the nick of timewhich means the scientific community definitely, definitely needs to get its act together and support this breakthrough!

 

Antoine de Saint Exupery

Antoine de Saint Exupéry (1900–1944)

 

So now I’ll address your other questions Craig, but I should mention that the first of the videos on the World Transformation Movement’s website warns of the difficulty not only scientists have had, but almost everyone has had trying to confront and think about the historically unbearably confronting subject of our corrupted condition which has finally been explained and made safe to confront and admit.

 

Craig: I’m Craig Conway and I’m speaking with Australian biologist Jeremy Griffith.

 

 

Part 3

 

How did we humans acquire our instinctive
cooperative and loving moral conscience?

 

Craig: We’re continuing our important conversation with Australian biologist Jeremy Griffith who’s been explaining the human condition and how understanding it can end all the trauma and suffering in the worldand boy, don’t we need that!

So in Part 1 Jeremy explained that we conscious humans became angry, egocentric and alienated because we couldn’t explain why we had to defy our instincts, but now that we can explain this and understand ourselves those defensive ways of coping are no longer needed and the human race is psychologically rehabilitated.

In Part 2 Jeremy explained that the reason we had to use the dishonest savage instincts excuse is because science had to find understanding of the way genes and nerves work, that genes can orientate a species but nerves need to understand cause and effect.

So Jeremy, my second question for this, Part 3, of our interview is how were our bonobo-like ape ancestors able to become cooperative and loving, which, as you said, must be the origin of our instinctive moral conscience that Darwin said distinguishes us from other animals?

 

Jeremy: Yes okay, so how we acquired our moral instincts has been one of the greatest mysteries in biology. The primatologist Richard Wrangham described it as ‘A question that has lain unsolved at the core of biology ever since Darwin’ (in a review of E.O. Wilson’s 2019 book Genesis: The Deep Origin of Societies). And Darwin himself described it as the ‘one special difficulty’ with his concept of natural selection (On The Origin of Species, 1859, p.209 of 440). The reason for the ‘difficulty’and this is some basic biology for youis that genes normally can’t select for unconditionally selfless, fully cooperative traits, simply because such traits tend to be self-eliminating and so normally can’t become established in a speciesI mean, ‘By all means, you can be selfless and sacrifice your genes for me, but I’m not about to be selfless and sacrifice my genes for you.’ The process of natural selection dictates that selfish opportunism will supposedly always exploit selflessness, so how could such a selfish process as natural selection possibly have created such loving selflessness in us?

The answer is it was achieved in our forebears through nurturing. To explain what is so significant about a mother’s nurturing of her offspring, I first need to point out that a mother’s maternal instinct to care for her offspring is selfish because she is ensuring the reproduction of her genes by ensuring the survival of offspring who carry her genes. So maternalism is a selfish trait, which, as I’ve just said, genetic traits normally have to be for them to reproduce and carry on into the next generation. HOWEVER, and this is all-important, from the infant’s perspective maternalism does have the appearance of being selfless. From the infant’s perspective, it is being treated unconditionally selflesslythe mother is giving her offspring food, warmth, shelter, support and protection for apparently nothing in return. So it follows that if the infant can remain in infancy for an extended period and be treated with a lot of seemingly altruistic love, it will be indoctrinated with that selfless love and grow up to behave accordingly. So selfish maternalism can train an infant in altruistic selflessness. (Freedom Essay 21 on our World Transformation Movement’s website, and chapter 5 of FREEDOM explain this ‘love-indoctrination’ process, as we call it, more fully.)

 

Craig: So what you’re saying is that mothers’ nurturing of their infants is primarily genetically selfish because it ensures the reproduction of her genes, but to the infant it seems like it’s being given unconditionally selfless love.

 

Jeremy: Yes that’s right, and if we think about primates, being semi-upright from living in trees, swinging from branch to branch, and thus having their arms free to hold a dependent infant, it’s clear that they are especially facilitated to support and prolong the mother-infant relationship, and so develop this nurtured, loving, cooperative behaviour.

 

Bonobo mothers holding their infants

 

And in fact, bonobos, the ape species who live south of the Congo River in Africa, are extraordinarily matriarchal, or female role focused, and extraordinarily nurturing. You can find photos onlineand I’ll include some in the transcript booklet and video of this interviewthat illustrate just how nurturing bonobos are; they show bonobo mothers giving their infant their devoted and undivided attention!

 

Image of adult bonobo touching juvenile bonobo on chin

Frans Lanting/Mint Images/Getty Images

 

 

Male bonobo and infant (San Diego Zoo)

Frans Lanting/Mint Images/Getty Images; San Diego Zoo (bottom right)

Bonobos nurturing their infants

 

And as a result of all this nurturing, bonobos are the most cooperative and loving of all primates, which is evidenced by these absolutely amazing quotes that I just have to read to you.

Bonobo zoo keeper Barbara Bell writes that ‘Adult bonobos demonstrate tremendous compassion for each other…​For example, Kitty, the eldest female, is completely blind and hard of hearing. Sometimes she gets lost and confused. They’ll just pick her up and take her to where she needs to go’ (‘The Bonobo: “Newest” apes are teaching us about ourselves’, Chicago Tribune, 11 Jun. 1998).

Primatologist Sue Savage-Rumbaugh says, ‘Bonobo life is centered around the offspring. Unlike what happens among chimpanzees, all members of the bonobo social group help with infant care and share food with infants. If you are a bonobo infant, you can do no wrong…​Bonobo females and their infants form the core of the group’ (Sue Savage-Rumbaugh & Roger Lewin, Kanzi: The Ape at the Brink of the Human Mind, 1994, p.108 of 299).

A filmmaker of the French documentary Bonobos says, ‘They’re surely the most fascinating animals on the planet. They’re the closest animals to man [in that they share almost 99 percent of our genetic make-up]…​Once I got hit on the head with a branch that had a bonobo on it. I sat down and the bonobo noticed I was in a difficult situation and came and took me by the hand and moved my hair back, like they do. So they live on compassion, and that’s really interesting to experience’ (short accompanying film to the 2011 French documentary Bonobos).

And bonobo researcher Vanessa Woods gives this first-hand account of bonobos’ unlimited capacity for love from her study of them in their home in the Congo basin: ‘Bonobo love is like a laser beam. They stop. They stare at you as though they have been waiting their whole lives for you to walk into their jungle. And then they love you with such helpless abandon that you love them back. You have to love them back’ (‘A moment that changed me – my husband fell in love with a bonobo’, The Guardian, 1 Oct. 2015).

 

Craig: Wow Jeremy, I mean these are astonishing quotes, they really are!

 

Jeremy: Yes, they truly are amazing quotesand bonobos are our closest living relatives, as mentioned they share 99% of our DNA. So we can see that bonobos provide the perfect evidence for how our distant ape ancestors became cooperative and loving.

I have another picture here of a group of bonobos resting in a grassy glade, which I will also include in the transcript booklet, and it perfectly equates with the description I mentioned earlier that Plato gave about what life was like for humans back in the ‘Golden Age’ of nurtured togetherness. Plato said, ‘And they dwelt naked, and mostly in the open air, for the temperature of their seasons was mild; and they had no beds, but lay on soft couches of grass, which grew plentifully out of the earth.’ Clearly we have a perfect instinctive memory (if we don’t choose to deny it) of what life was like before ‘the fall’ because Plato didn’t know of the existence of bonobos and yet knew exactly what our bonobo-like life before ‘the fall’ was like.

 

A group of Bonobos relaxing close to each other on green grass at the Lola Ya Bonobo Sanctuary, Democratic Republic of Congo.

Bonobos resting in a grassy glade

 

Now this quote is a bit long but it’s such a wonderful intuitive remembrance of our species’ bonobo-like time in an alienation-free, all-sensitive and all-loving state of innocence that I just have to read it out. It’s from the great Russian novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky. He wrote of a time when: ‘The grass glowed with bright and fragrant flowers. Birds were flying in flocks in the air, and perched fearlessly on my shoulders and arms and joyfully struck me with their darling, fluttering wings. And at last I saw and knew the people of this happy land. They came to me of themselves, surrounded me, kissed me. The children of the sun, the children of their sunoh, how beautiful they were!…​Their faces were radiant…​in their words and voices there was a note of childlike joy…​It was the earth untarnished by the Fall; on it lived people who had not sinned…​They desired nothing and were at peace; they did not aspire to knowledge of life as we aspire to understand it, because their lives were full. But their knowledge was higher and deeper than ours…​but I could not understand their knowledge. They showed me their trees, and I could not understand the intense love with which they looked at them; it was as though they were talking with creatures like themselves…​and I am convinced that the trees understood them. They looked at all nature like thatat the animals who lived in peace with them and did not attack them, but loved them, conquered by their love…​There was no quarrelling, no jealousy among them…​for they all made up one family’ (The Dream of a Ridiculous Man, 1877).

This description of being ‘conquered by their love’ is so like the description just given by the bonobo researcher Vanessa Woods, when she said bonobos ‘love you with such helpless abandon that you love them back. You have to love them back’. Again we see how accurate our memory is, if we don’t deny it, of what life was like before ‘the Fall’.

 

Fyodor Dostoevsky

Fyodor Dostoevsky (1821–1881)

 

 

Craig: That quote is so wonderful, it’s just amazing, thank you Jeremy, I’m glad you read it out. This nurturing explanation for our moral instincts seems reasonably obvious, and evidenced by those quotes about bonobo behaviour and also by the photographs of the bonobos, so why haven’t I heard about this until now?

 

Jeremy: Well, just like the obvious truth that our species once lived cooperatively and lovingly, this truth that we acquired our moral instincts through nurturing has been an unbearable truth while we couldn’t explain why we humans became angry, egocentric and alienated and as a result lost the ability to adequately nurture our offspring with unconditional selflessness or love. The truth of our species’ Edenic all-loving and all-sensitive innocent past, and the truth that nurturing is what made us human, have both been impossible truths to accept while we couldn’t truthfully explain our present immensely corrupted human condition, explain why our species became so corrupted and lost the ability to fully nurture its offspring. As it’s been observed, ‘parents would rather admit to being an axe murderer than a bad mother or father’! (John Marsden, Sunday Life, The Sun-Herald, 7 Jul. 2002).

 

John Fiske photo

John Fiske (1842–1901)

 

In fact, this reasonably obvious nurturing explanation for our moral conscience was first put forward by the American philosopher John Fiske in his book Outlines of Cosmic Philosophy, which was published in 1874, only a few years after Darwin published his theory of natural selection. And, at the time, Fiske’s explanation was actually recognised as being, and I quote, ‘far more important’ than ‘Darwin’s principle of natural selection’ and ‘one of the most beautiful contributions ever made to the Evolution of Man’ (Dorothy Ross, G. Stanley Hall: The Psychologist as Prophet, 1972, p.262 of 482). And Darwin himself went so far as to write to Fiske saying, ‘I never in my life read so lucid an expositor (and therefore thinker) as you are’ (1874; Life and Letters of Charles Darwin, Vol. 2). But again, while we couldn’t explain our loss of ability to adequately nurture our offspring, this ‘far more important’ insight than ‘Darwin’s principle of natural selection’ was let die and eventually disappeared from biological discourse!

I might point out that 1) Darwin’s natural selection explanation for the variety of species; 2) Fiske’s and my nurturing explanation for our moral instincts; 3) the instinct vs intellect explanation that I’ve given for the human condition; 4) the explanation I give in chapter 7 of FREEDOM for how we humans became fully conscious when other species haven’t; and 5) the Negative-Entropy-driven integrative meaning of existence (which we have personified as ‘God’) that is explained in chapter 4 of FREEDOMwhich together are the five main questions science has had to answer about our world and place in itare all reasonably obvious, straightforward, simple explanations that bear out biologist Allan Savory’s observation that ‘whenever there has been a major insoluble problem for mankind, the answer, when finally found, has always been very simple’ (Holistic Resource Management, 1988, 1st edition, p.3). As FREEDOM makes clear, having to live in denial of the human condition has blocked our access to so many reasonably obvious truths.

 

Craig: Thanks Jeremy. This is really amazing to learn about how science has denied our species’ cooperative and loving heritage, and the nurtured origins of that cooperative and loving soul. But it all really does make senseI mean we certainly needed the defence for our corrupted condition before we could face the truth about it.

I am speaking with Australian biologist Jeremy Griffith.

 

 

 

Part 4

 

How does the psychological rehabilitation of the
human race that the arrival of understanding of the
human condition finally makes possible actually occur?

 

Craig: Hello and welcome back to Part 4 of the interview. I’m Craig Conway and I’m here with Jeremy Griffith, the biologist who has just explained how humans acquired our moral instincts. This is an absolutely remarkable interview!

So continuing on, Jeremy, what about my third question for this final Part 4 of the interview, which is how does ‘the psychological rehabilitation of the human race’ that this understanding gives us actually take place; do we all need to go into therapy or something?

 

Jeremy: Well, what this realand actually very obviousinstinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition fundamentally does is lift the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race. It establishes that we humans are good and not bad after all. While we are all inevitably variously angry, egocentric and alienated from our different encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, ultimately self-knowledge, understanding of our corrupted condition, we can now know that every human is fundamentally good. And this ability to understand and know there was a good reason why the human race became psychologically upset, is the key, relieving understanding we have been in search of ever since we became conscious some 2 million years ago and our corrupted condition emerged.

That is the key relief for our mindbeing finally able to understand that we are good and not bad is what brings us the greatest psychological relief of all. The psychoanalyst Carl Jung said, ‘wholeness for humans depends on the ability to own our own shadow’, and since we can now ‘own’ the ‘shadow’ of our species’ 2-million-year-corrupted condition, the human race is finally in a position to become ‘whole’. The word ‘psychosis’ literally means ‘soul-illness’ and ‘psychiatry literally means ‘soul-healing’ (derived as they are from psyche meaning ‘soul’, osis meaning ‘abnormal state or condition’ and iatreia meaning ‘healing’see pars 63 & 72 of FREEDOM), but we have never been able to ‘heal our soul’, explain to our original instinctive self or soul that we, our fully conscious thinking self, is good and not bad and by so doing reconcile and heal our split selvesbut now at last we can.

 

Craig: Well, there is an adage that says ‘The truth will set you free’, so what you’re saying then Jeremy is that the truth of our fundamental goodness is the truth that we needed to set us free from the human condition.

 

Jeremy: Precisely, and while that is the main relief our mind needed, obviously the more we digest that relieving understanding, the more healing relief comes to every aspect of our upset conditionand to have had to endure being unjustly condemned as bad for 2 million years does mean there is a great deal of upset to heal.

To appreciate how much upset exists in us humans now, imagine living for just one day with the injustice of being condemned as bad, even evil, when you intuitively knew but were unable to explain that you were actually the complete opposite of evil, namely truly wonderful, good and meaningfulin fact not just good but the hero of the story of life on Earth! You would be hurt to the core and furious wouldn’t you! Now extrapolate that experience over 2 million years and we can begin to appreciate just how much volcanic frustration and anger must now exist within us humans! While we have learnt to significantly restrain and conceal‘civilise’ as we refer to itthe phenomenal amount of upset within us, under the surface we all must be boiling with rage, and sometimes, when our restraint can no longer find a way to contain it, that anger must express itselfhence our capacity for shocking acts of cruelty, sadism, hate, murder and war.

 

 

And no wonder we have led such an evasive, denial-practising, lying, avoid-any-criticism, escapist, alienated, superficial and artificial, greedy, egocentric, power, fame, fortune and glory-seeking existence. We have had to smother ourselves with material glory while we lacked the spiritual glory of compassionate understanding of ourselves.

 

 

So there is an enormous amount of upset to subside and heal in us humans, and that will obviously take time. In fact, we have to expect that it will take a number of generations to be completely ameliorated. But the good news, and this is very important, is that while it will take a number of generations to heal all the upset in us humans, everyone can immediately live free of their upset. The reason we can live free of it is that while we lacked the real defence and reinforcement of understanding of our corrupted condition, we absolutely needed the artificial defences and reinforcements of attacking any criticism of our corrupted condition, of denying and blocking it out, and of finding any positive reinforcement we couldanger, alienation and egocentricity are what sustained usbut now that we have the real defence and reinforcement of our fundamental goodness, all these artificial defences and reinforcements are obsoleted, they are no longer needed. In fact, to continue using the old artificial defences of retaliation, denial and the search for relieving power, fame, fortune and glory when our fundamental goodness has been established is not only clearly pointless but also unnecessarily destructive of ourselves, everyone around us and our planet. That way of living is now completely obsoleted, finished with.

 

Craig: That makes total sense; I mean our artificial ways of reinforcing ourselves are obsoleted by the real reinforcement of ourselves. One way of living ends, a new one begins, free of the human conditionphew, thank God for that!!

 

Jeremy: That’s for sure! Basically, now that our corrupted condition is finally truthfully explained, honesty replaces denial and the world heals. ‘Bullshit’, which is our everyday word for all the dishonest denial that’s been going on, protected us from all the truths about our corrupted condition that we couldn’t properly explain, but it was destroying the world and it now stops.

With this end of lying in mind, there’s one more thing I should explain, which is that socialism, the new age movement, the politically correct movement, and all the other idealistic movements, were actually all false starts to a human-condition-free world because the upsetting battle to find knowledge, ultimately self-knowledge, the psychologically relieving understanding of why we are good and not bad, still had to be completed. In fact, while dogmatically insisting that everyone should be cooperative and loving could make you feel that you were doing good and be superficially psychologically very relieving, such insistence on ideal behaviour denied people the freedom they needed to be able to continue the all-important upsetting search for knowledge. These movements were pseudo idealistic movements that stifled and oppressed the search for the understanding of our corrupted condition that was needed to actually free us from that state. They were regressive, not progressive as they deluded themselves they were. It was actually the right-wing who have supported the upsetting battle to find knowledge that held the moral highground, not the pseudo idealistic left-wing.

The culture of the Left made people superficially feel good but it was dangerously dishonest, it was fakeit was bullshit. Being concerned for others and the world is very important, but doing that to make yourself feel good is a dangerously selfish sickness, indeed it’s the most destructive of all drug addictionsand it’s been taking over the world. Dogma is not the cure, it’s the poison.

You can see here that the true instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition finally enables us to explain and expose what’s wrong with the Leftand it’s not a moment too soon because its culture is rapidly taking our species to death-by-dogma extinction.

Now, most wonderfully of all, the instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition not only exposes the culture of the Left for the human-race-destroying lie that it is, it also, as I said, brings to an end the whole upsetting search for the rehabilitating understanding of why we’re good and not bad, and what this means is that it’s no longer oppressive of that upsetting search to take up support of cooperative and loving idealismbecause that search is over. In fact, taking up support of cooperative and loving idealism is now the only way to live that’s justified! Suddenly there’s no longer any reason for the right-wing in politics and everyone effectively becomes left-wing. In fact, the whole business of politics basically ends with the finding of understanding of the human condition, and the whole human race sets out as one united organism letting go the angry, egocentric and alienated part of ourselves and supporting cooperative, selfless and loving idealism. (Much more is explained about pseudo idealism in Video/F. Essay 14 on the World Transformation Movement’s website.)

 

 

 

Craig: Yes, ending the polarised world of politics will certainly be one of the biggest reliefs imaginable!

 

Jeremy: Absolutely Craig. It will be a massive relief.

So that’s how the whole world suddenly, immediately changes from a psychologically embattled angry, egocentric and alienated state, to a world where everyone has decided to abandon their still-to-be-healed competitive and aggressive behaviour and takes up support of a cooperative and loving existence.

So finding understanding of the human condition brings to an end the insecure, upset, artificial-reinforcement-dependent angry, egocentric and alienated world. A new human-condition-resolved, cooperative, selfless and loving world now emerges. Light comes streaming into the dark cave-like world of denial that we have been living in, and it will all be like waking up from a nightmare!

 

 

Basically, with the ability to understand ourselves, we can return to our original cooperative and loving state, but this time fully conscious. As the poet T.S. Eliot anticipated, ‘We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time’ (Little Gidding, 1942).

 

Craig: Wow Jeremy, that has been absolutely incredible, enlightening, enthralling, and I really can’t thank you enough for sharing with us your knowledge and your insight. To think about the human race being transformed just in the nick of time is, I think, what everybody out there who has listened to this will be hoping for.

And your book FREEDOM, again, is available on HumanCondition.com for everybody to accessand it’s free on there as well. So please follow this interview up, listen to it again and again, try your best to understand what Jeremy is saying here, but get online, get the information and keep studying, and let’s hope we can all enjoy and embrace a new change for the world, for all of us.

Jeremy, it’s been wonderful to talk with you. Thank you for joining us, and we will hopefully speak to you againbut even better, that we’ll be seeing your work in the lives of everybody across the planet very soon.

I’m Craig Conway, this has been my interview with Jeremy Griffith.

 

END OF INTERVIEW

 

Genevieve Salter: So everyone, don’t forget you can learn all about this fabulous, world-saving breakthrough understanding of the human condition at HumanCondition.com!!

And I want to mention that what you’ll see there following this interview is a series of videos that elaborate on what’s been outlined in the interviewso there’ll be some repetition, but going over the concepts in more detail does help with the understanding and absorption of them.

In the first of those videos Jeremy warns us of our historic fear of the subject of the human condition and the resulting ‘deaf effect’ that reading or hearing about the human condition often initially causes.

 

Visit www.humancondition.com to view the film of this interview,
and to watch the series of introductory videos Genevieve has referred to.

 

 

 

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  • Anna on June 1, 2020 at 1:48 pm

    Who would have thought the human condition and its resolution could have been explained so simply. Fantastic presentation.

    • Very interesting.. revelation on July 4, 2020 at 7:46 pm

      Interesting

  • Polly on June 1, 2020 at 1:49 pm

    I am astounded by how much information is covered in this incredible interview, it really is world changing and saving! The implications of this are just so exciting now that we can fully understand ourselves and where we come from, and we can all participate in bringing about a free, happy and meaningful future. Hooray!!!!

  • Fi on June 1, 2020 at 1:55 pm

    A brilliant, articulate and really, really engaging and mind-opening presentation of biological thinking that is on a scale that can’t actually be measured!! So much is packed in to this interview, but it’s all amazingly accessible and understandable and relatable. A great lead-in to learning more in the video series that follows it.

  • Susy on June 1, 2020 at 2:02 pm

    You can’t overstate how important this interview is, I completely agree with Prof Prosen. I know it ends the turmoil, conflict and suffering in human life because that’s exactly what it has done for my life, it is just so vital that every human on the planet is given the opportunity to watch it. Jeremy Griffith is absolutely extraordinary in his profound clarity and insight into the source of all our problems of the human condition. In such a short time we are completely provided with ‘the road map for the complete rehabilitation and transformation of our lives and world’ no less, it’s so all-understanding and exciting and wondrous!! I will be sharing this from now to kingdom come! Humanity is FREE!!

  • Ned on June 1, 2020 at 2:11 pm

    A tight, clear presentation of Griffith’s breakthrough treatise. Brilliant!

  • Brony on June 1, 2020 at 2:23 pm

    I’ve been around this information for more than 25 years and this interview by Craig Conway and Jeremy Griffith is just the cleanest, purest, easily accessible and succinct presentation I’ve ever seen of Jeremy’s world-saving explanation of the human condition. And it is world-saving, well it’s saved my life many times over, I just can’t even imagine where I’d be if I hadn’t come across this understanding of us humans. This interview is rightly called THE interview because there’s never been a true understanding of the human condition before, and never been such a succinct presentation of the understanding. I really think this is going to be a game-changer for the human race because, as Craig says in the interview, the world can’t cope with any more upset behaviour, and this interview should go viral it’s so clean and straight forward to follow.
    Michael Leunig had a cartoon in the Sydney Morning Herald on Sat about how everyone’s deludedly thinking this coronavirus pandemic is going to allow everyone to build a new and better world because there’ll be no fundamental change, but wait until this interview starts getting spread around and everyone will realise a fundamental change is now possible. Someone should send this interview to Leunig.
    Just share this interview and help this real love go viral, please, please, please!!

  • Sally on June 1, 2020 at 2:24 pm

    Another brilliant masterpiece from Jeremy Griffith! The world is teetering on the edge of imploding as a result of 2 million years of anger, frustration, confusion and insecurity of our worth as humans and here, in just 1 precious, golden hour, Jeremy explains why and in so doing solves the human condition and shows us how all the pain and suffering we’ve endured can be fixed up up straight away. I love the description about THE Interview, as it surely is ‘the now urgently needed road map for the complete rehabilitation and transformation of our lives and world!’ A must-watch for everyone, thank you Jeremy and Craig for this most wonderful of all presentations.

  • Amanda Pollard on June 1, 2020 at 2:28 pm

    Pure AWESOME Watched it and shared it 🔆❤😁

  • Piper on June 1, 2020 at 3:24 pm

    For every question asked by Craig Conway in this interview there is a clear, logical and conclusive answer given by Jeremy Griffith. This is testament to a biological understanding of the human condition that can finally reconcile our embattled selves and forge a higher level of consciousness. What a wonderful platform and enlightening discussion that is needed for humans to burst out of a cave of denial, bring peace and heal the suffering in our world.

  • Roger on June 1, 2020 at 4:05 pm

    Wow, that was the clearest and subsequently most exciting communication from Griffith yet !!!!!
    If you’ve been struggling to understand this explanation or you feel like your missing something then you have to watch or listen to The Interview. It’s just so simply explained.
    I’d recommend watching it because Conway totally gets it and his excitement is contagious.
    Congratulations and thank you to both Griffith and Conway because it was another amazing moment for me and I’m backing it going viral.

  • Alice W on June 1, 2020 at 4:50 pm

    You have to listen to this hour of brilliance – it explains our species past, present and, if we embrace this biological understanding, a cooperative loving future. What have you got to lose! In deep deep gratitude to Jeremy Griffith and Craig Conway

  • Doug on June 1, 2020 at 6:55 pm

    What a fantastic interview that takes you through the whole human story from our pre-conscious beginnings as a species, to our current seemingly dire predicament, to how we can now turn it all around for ourselves and the future generations of humans, now that the human condition is solved.
    And all in just 1 hour!

  • Connor on June 1, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    All the great questions in human life are discussed openly and freely during this incredible discussion between Jeremy Griffith and Craig Conway. What’s particularly amazing is the breadth and scope of what this interview covers about the human story in just a short hour – from the clash between our instincts and intellect, all the way through to how we each can become free of our own selfish pre-occupation and collectively, save the world! An absolutely astonishing result of decades of refinement of the presentation of these absolutely critical, world-saving insights.

  • Ari on June 1, 2020 at 8:17 pm

    Wow! What an interview. Just brilliant. Thank you Craig
    It was only a matter of time before some media outlet got hold of Jeremy Griffiths work and played it for all to see.
    At least now people will have the chance to really listen to and absorb Jeremy’s explanations on the most important topic on Earth – the Human Condition.
    Solving the Human Condition is literally the only thing that can save the world. There is nothing else. Only the truth can set us free and here it is. All in this brilliant interview and the greatest book ever written FREEDOM.
    The holy grail of understanding and freedom from the HC awaits you.
    Thank you Jeremy. Thank you Craig. This will be the interview that sets us free.

  • Prue on June 1, 2020 at 10:02 pm

    The truth will set you free and that is exactly what Jeremy Griffith’s explanation does! The depth and clarity of Jeremy’s world saving presentation in THE Interview and the deeper, lasting solution it provides to all the chaos and suffering in human life, make it immeasurable how precious and enlightening this presentation is for the world. The truth is what our hearts and minds have needed. This is the gift of all gifts for the whole human race and the future. Thank you Jeremy and Craig

  • Lance on June 2, 2020 at 7:27 am

    If you just watch one video in your life make sure it is this

  • Prudie on June 3, 2020 at 7:38 am

    This really is the most precious and important presentation. It is THE Interview as Jeremy Griffith so brilliantly ‘actually solves the underlying issue in all human affairs of the human condition.’ Humanity has been thrown the ultimate lifeline – we humans are finally defended and explained and understood and liberated in this one extraordinary hour! As Professor Harry Prosen has said this brings about ‘the psychological rehabilitation of the human race’.

  • Deepak Bhatt on June 4, 2020 at 12:31 pm

    Craig Conway & Jeremy Griffith both are Man with Difference in their own field & interview is approved by Professor Harry Conway. I read all the four section. It contains different Books,their authors references & as a layman I understand it. It shows great passion & devotion of Jeremy Griffith to the subject. This interview should be shared with all the Ambassadors of all the Nations to watch them. After their positive review it should be Telecast & Broadcast into their nation with dubbed & subtitled into local languages. Let policy makers & people have firm understanding. if individual change converts into Mass Movement it will be Paradigm shift.Let all the ambassador convert into Ambassador of Love & this Earth become Garden of Eden.

  • Lesley Rose Davies on June 8, 2020 at 7:25 am

    The interview is absolutely brilliant. It is so clear.

  • Neil on June 16, 2020 at 6:11 am

    I agree with the sentiments in the other comments – this is a brilliant interview to watch. The incredibly concise presentation by Jeremy allows so much understanding to flood into your system, opening up a whole new landscape of understanding. The relief and amazement fills every cell of your body. An extraordinary experience.
    And I have to say having this transcript is so helpful to read through as I listen to Jeremy and Craig. A great resource to have alongside this ‘”most important interview of all time”.

  • Linda Harrington on June 17, 2020 at 10:59 pm

    This is absolutely fascinating, explained in an easy to understand fashion. I’ve always searched for the truth, everything felt oddly wrong, now I understand lose myself to find me. That’s exactly how it was several years ago after finding myself due to personal sadness. This has been easy for me to understand due to that reason. Almost stripping oneself of everything down to the bone and rebuilding each segment with love, truth- trusting own instinct, understanding, patience and faith.

    Thank you so much.
    Light and love
    Linda Harrington

  • Ann Barnard on June 23, 2020 at 6:21 am

    So fascinating….Some of it was very deep…but I did understand most of it. A real eye opening context to how us humans live & act out our lives. Very interesting interview. A lot better than some things that are shown on Fb. I really enjoyed reading this. Thank You.

  • Babs Lambrechts on June 27, 2020 at 5:07 am

    So insightful! I belief with this knowledge the world will start to a better place. Thank you so much.

  • Mira on July 3, 2020 at 5:21 pm

    Awesome

  • Maire on July 6, 2020 at 7:33 pm

    Love it all… Thank-you Jeremy : )
    Don’t you think science have know this for a long time & have used it against us it to advance their commercialise interests in selling the average human a lot of product they do not need to feed their low self esteem, to facilitate the need for heirachy, separatism, religion, racism, & yes… a big treat to all the foundational traps that profit hugely from the status quo including all the profits from the destructive commercialisation of our food, destruction of the enviroment, petrochemical industry, neglectful waste practices, the sickness industry, depression, anxiety, covid, vaccinations, it just goes on & on…
    I get it & I got it a long time ago by travelling & my observation of the World & how it functions or
    Dis-functions…Look at Trump egotistical 7 yr old..The perfect pupit for Big Pharma & Lobby groups.
    The Western World it is the epitome of this dysfunction, it continues to generate vast wealth from humanity’s psychosis & it is vested in keeping humanity in darkness. Now that Jeremy Griffith has given everyone a clear vision of how & why… it is up to every individual to wake up & stop listening to the dogma you are being continually programmed with.. switch off the news, switch off your Tv’s in general & read this material & take procession of your own lives.
    You can remain slaves to the system if you want to remain slaves, slavery never really ended… people everywhere of every race & colour have surrendered their power, their minds & their hearts to a trance like robot state which they have fallen into by default.. what a great time to WAKE UP !!!!!
    Wake-up… & opt out of the psychological mayhem into total & complete FREEDOM!!
    Read the book.. the simplification of great truths… wake up, wake-up.. & remove your shackles : ) x

    • Genevieve on July 7, 2020 at 5:06 pm

          It’s great to have your interest and support Maire, thank you. As you absorb all this further, you will begin to appreciate more deeply that this information actually defends the dark side of ourselves, and paradoxically, it was only this understanding that would allow us to put that destructive behaviour behind us.
          With regard to the role of scientists, they, just like everyone have been suffering from the human condition which means we have all been living in fearful denial of it to cope. The whole scientific paradigm has been necessarily mechanistic and that does limit their ability to think truthfully about the human situation, but it did lead crucially to finding the essential workings of our world. This work is what was needed for a holistic thinker, such as Jeremy, to pull all the pieces together and solve the human condition once and for all.
          All the traits you list such as competitiveness, egocentricity, commercialisation, hierarchy, racism, the destruction of the environment, anxiety, depression are just symptoms of the human condition which has been our necessarily upsetting but unavoidable journey to enlightenment. This finally brings understanding to our upset selves and world and brings so much incredible meaning to it, we can see that all the pain, suffering, dysfunction and disintegration of ourselves and society has all been for the most heroic reason. The reason humanity are ‘slaves to the system’ and in a ‘trance like robot state’ is all due to the human condition, the 2 million year conflict between our instincts and intellect. Bringing understanding to this conflict, this real psychologically redeeming, relieving and transforming explanation is what Jeremy has delivered, and what will end human suffering at its source, and unite the human race. So yes, we can truly ‘wake up’ now and remove our ‘shackles’ because we are loved and defended to our core, freedom really is on for young and old.
          For a greater understanding of how it was the ‘right-wing who have supported the upsetting battle to find knowledge that held the moral highground, not the pseudo idealistic left-wing’ as Jeremy mentions in THE Interview above, I would recommend Video/Freedom Essay 14.

  • Tara Ac Jansson on July 10, 2020 at 3:23 am

    Hallelujah at last! Love all Serve all

  • David George on July 18, 2020 at 9:58 am

    You may have found the answer- but how do you implement a solution…?

  • Debbie Clout on July 19, 2020 at 3:11 am

    Love & Light were always the instinctive answer to our freedom!Wonderful breakthrough for the World!

  • Ronel Capalar on July 19, 2020 at 12:25 pm

    Worth reading and very transforming mind-setting!
    Great understanding on human condition for healing the World✌🏽🙏👏Every one must read! Thanks for sharing .Fingers crossed

  • Elizabeth venter on July 20, 2020 at 5:12 pm

    I found this interview mind blowing. I need to listen a few times to understand it more. I do know that to live in a loving non aggressive World would be paradise!

  • Tanya Edwards on July 23, 2020 at 3:56 am

    It makes so much sense, and I found myself nodding along as he spoke.
    It would be wonderful if the world acknowledged this and decided to accept this as the Truth. However, I think that even with the knowledge, you’d still get institutions like churches, corrupt governments, etc.. trying their level best to keep this truth from their flocks, citizens because we also have choice and being powerful and in control of thousands might overrule the need to live in love.
    I’m definitely going to spend time on the website offered, and I also want to thank you for the free literature, and the great interview, brilliantly executed by Craig Conway.

    • Susan on July 23, 2020 at 1:33 pm

          It is wonderful to have your interest Tanya and we are very pleased you found THE Interview so enlightening!
          You are right to be concerned about how we bring this understanding of the human condition to the world at large and we at the WTM are doing all we can to make these world-saving insights available to absolutely everyone. While this biological understanding of the human condition really is the universal solution to all the problems we face, it does have a slow start-up phase. It will take some time to break through the bastions of power in the world but once this information gets a foothold through enough people like you developing a deep appreciation and desire to support it, the selfless love and energy that will generated will solve our problems very quickly because instead of being preoccupied with power, fame, fortune etc, all our energies will be freed to truly work together and focus on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering in all the corners of the world.
          And of course it will take a number of generations for all the anger and upset in the world to subside and heal but the point is we have the means now both practically and psychologically, to love our world. And it begins with those secure and functional enough in society to recognise that and make the ‘change of heart’ that understanding of ourselves allows, so that we can actually deal with the overwhelming, more extreme problems in our world in a functional manner. It’s the power of cooperative selflessness that Jeremy talks about in chapter 9:9 of FREEDOM, to quote para 1232: ‘Importantly, the more this understanding and associated transformation catches on, the easier it will be for people to move from the old insecure, ego-centric way of living to the new, secure, ego-less way of living. The egocentric way of living has had such a powerful hold on humans because without understanding of the human condition all that we had was the superficial reinforcement we gained from seeking power, fame, fortune and glory, but now that relieving understanding has been found then that old egocentric way of living will quickly lose its power—so quickly, in fact, that everyone will be amazed by how swiftly their need for and attachment to the old artificial forms of reinforcement falls away.’
          For the growing momentum of support that is already building around the world for biologist Jeremy Griffith’s breakthrough explanation of the human condition, please see https://www.humancondition.com/transformation/#wtm-centres-launch.

  • Helen B on July 24, 2020 at 6:23 am

    Brilliant

  • Nick on August 1, 2020 at 3:01 pm

    What a superb presentation of this ground-breaking world-transforming first-principled biological simple-to-follow fair dinkum explanation of the human condition! I commend it to every person every where!

    • Ellen on May 7, 2020 at 9:42 am

      Traditional hunter gatherer societies were mainly matriarchal or at least equal gender importance (also in the natural world is the bonobo example). It seems that with the rise of world religions and also rise of agricultural settled society and subsequent suppression of half the population in a patriarchal society – we can see where it all went wrong…

      • susy on July 7, 2020 at 4:55 pm

        The amazing thing about this information is that it actually defends men and their egocentric behaviour, and by so doing, allows the loving state we all want to come about. Certainly this breakthrough information explains all about our matriarchal history with the nurturing being the priority for our ancestors, prior to the human condition emerging, and yes the bonobos are a living example of that time. However once we became conscious two million years ago, and the human condition emerged, the priority changed to finding knowledge and that vital, and in fact very heroic role, fell to men and we changed to a patriarchal society. This includes all the traditional hunter gatherer societies. The really significant thing here Ellen is that this understanding of the HC makes sense of our upset, where it came from, why it has been unavoidable and that it actually is a very heroic and incredibly meaningful state. We have to bring understanding to our human situation to make any permanent and real change, and with this defence we finally can and all the pain and suffering that the HC has caused can come to an end. For a full explanation of the historical roles of men and women and how we are genuinely reconciled now through this understanding I would definitely recommend freedom essay 26, it’s fantastic! And for the differences in races and how this reconciles all races and cultures I would read freedom essay 28. I’ll put the links below
        https://www.humancondition.com/freedom-essays/men-and-women-reconciled/
        https://www.humancondition.com/freedom-essays/the-end-of-racial-prejudice/

  • Pablo Fos Freire on August 3, 2020 at 1:44 pm

    Amazing and spot on
    What I’ve always felt
    But finally explained
    Don’t read books much these days
    Not since my daughter was smaller (and I’m really missing that) plus she’s dyslexic which was plus point for me because I got to read and improvise voices of characters so many times that I will always cherish and hopefully she’ll always remember.
    However I will read the book and possibility recreate a connection with my daughter on a different lleve

  • Dennis Winters on August 4, 2020 at 7:28 am

    The only problem I have with this theory is that the concept of humans having animal instincts has really only been around since Darwin’s Origin of Species. And the initial reaction to that theory was universally hostile. Religion, really , protected us from the truth of our origins , so the idea of people believing we were blighted by our animal instincts does not really hold water. Apart from that reservation, I think this explanation of the human condition makes sense. I thank you for sharing this .

    • Genevieve on August 4, 2020 at 11:34 am

      We agree that people have used fundamentalist, literalist interpretations of religious scripture to account for human origins and our supposedly sinful state, however, as Jeremy explains about the story of the Garden of Eden, the truth of the original innocence of the human race is actually present in that story because the Garden of Eden is a metaphor for our species’ original innocent state. And as Jeremy describes in paragraph 194 of FREEDOM, humans have since time immemorial related our savage behaviour to the savage behaviour of animals; for example in 1850, which is before Darwin published ‘Origins’, Tennyson referred to humans as being “red in tooth and claw” like animals.

  • Doug moffat on August 8, 2020 at 3:52 am

    I thought I was the only one trying to change people thought, grate, always said something good was going to happen after all this , 😍🤗

  • Colleen F on August 8, 2020 at 6:03 pm

    What a fantastic way to present and clearly hear the wonderful groundbreaking understandings from Jeremy Griffith. The conversation type questions and answers are perfect. Also, breaking these concepts down into 4 parts is a very helpful way to digest all the paradigm shifting information. Well done Jeremy, Craig and the WTM tech support crew in producing this for the world to hear.

  • Jo on August 11, 2020 at 3:39 pm

    But narcissistic psychopaths don’t see themselves as ill and go for help…

    • Genevieve on August 11, 2020 at 5:08 pm

      Thank you for your comment Jo. As Jeremy says in THE Interview above, finding understanding of the human condition brings to an end the insecure, upset, artificial-reinforcement-dependent angry, egocentric and alienated world and that includes those with extreme states of egocentricity known as psychopaths or power addicts. Jeremy explains the power addicted state, particularly in men, in chapter 8:16D of his definitive book FREEDOM. Amongst the founding membership of the World Transformation Movement there are power addicts who have freed themselves of their affliction by taking up the Transformed Way of Living. The affirmations of the Transformed State given by WTM founding members John Biggs and Sam Belfield are recommended viewing.

  • Brian cooper on August 13, 2020 at 12:58 pm

    Finally some Enlightenment for the darkness many are living through.

  • Jan Mehlenbacher on August 14, 2020 at 2:27 am

    I had to listen to this because I’ve always believed we were brainwashed some how many many years ago putting this narsasistic and violent tendencies. Into our path to evelove into rash untrusting aggressive possibly down right violent behavior taught to us because of our openness to achieve knowledge. But this makes so much dahm sence I guess my problem is in ability to change what’s years of school have work so hard to brainwash us into believing. I’m afraid it has it hooks in to many. That won’t ever believe because it was pushed in school I wanna get behind this politics thing but when I’m trying actually to re and Invite myself for real its so cluttered and confusing but please put out more

    • Monica on August 14, 2020 at 2:08 pm

          It’s great to have your interest Jan! Yes in bringing understanding to the human condition, it brings compassionate and thus safe understanding to ALL of human behaviour, be it our individual lives, or politics and the whole democratic process, or religion, the relationship between men and women or different races etc. What you discover is this explanation unravels the seemingly impenetrable and insoluble confusion of human life and actually reconciles the polarities that currently exist — for instance the divide between the left and right wing in politics.
          It can take some deeper digestion to see the full significance of at last being able to make sense of the great paradox of the human life, namely how we humans are good when we appear to be the complete opposite. But what it means is that now that our goodness has been scientifically established we no longer have to continue to try and prove ourselves, which was the source of all our selfish, egocentric behaviour, and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living — and this is the rapidly transforming effect of being able to understand the human condition. Our conscious thinking brain finally has knowledge/ explanation/ insight into our seemingly horribly flawed human condition, and given time to absorb it, our psychologically troubled human condition can come to an end.
          After listening to THE Interview, we do recommend the series of introductory videos on our homepage.

  • Jackie Beattie on August 15, 2020 at 11:29 am

    Humans are not heroes. Being conscious and Seeking knowledge has led only to us being the only species to destroy the planet with our greed despite us understanding cause and effect, whereas all other species contribute to the natural echo system.

    • Genevieve on August 15, 2020 at 1:06 pm

      Jackie, Jeremy explains that the reason humans are heroic is because our greed and selfishness was an unavoidable result of the development of our uniquely conscious mind. We had to suffer upset and become alienated from our soul’s true world in order to find understanding of ourselves. The horror of our human-condition-afflicted lives is unthinkable and yet we’ve continued on our journey to find understanding. With compassionate understanding found, we can know we are good, we can reconcile with our cooperative and loving instincts and the natural world, our destructive behaviour can come to an end and we can begin the much-needed repair of ourselves and our planet.

  • Billy Hunt on August 17, 2020 at 2:21 pm

    Interesting…..but you still haven’t answered fully about the existence of true evil….as it certainly exists in people around the world!!!???

    • Susan on August 17, 2020 at 4:31 pm

          Thank you for your interest in the WTM Billy. Yes, the absolutely horrific psychologically upset state of the human condition has created an extremely frustrated and ferociously angry ‘dark side’ in humans, which has meant we are capable of ‘evil’ or terrible acts.
          But to quote FAQ 4.2, ‘what is so utterly exonerating and psychologically healing about our ability now to understand the human condition is that we can finally appreciate that there was a very good reason for our angry, egocentric and alienated lives—in fact, we can now see why our species has not just been ego-centric, but ego-infuriated, even ego-gone-mad-with-murderous-rage for having to live with so much unjust criticism/guilt, for some 2 million years. At long last we have the reason for humans’ capacity for shocking acts of cruelty, sadism, hate, murder and warfare—we now know the source of the dark volcanic forces in us humans.
          And with the ability now to explain and understand that all humans are good and not bad, all the upset that resulted from not being able to explain the source of our divisive condition is able to subside and disappear. Finding understanding of the human condition is what rehabilitates and transforms the human race from its psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated condition.
          Importantly, this understanding of why we became upset as a species does not condone or sanction ‘evil’, rather, through bringing understanding to humans’ upset behaviour, it gives us the power to ameliorate and thus subside and ultimately eliminate it—and, in the short term, to transcend all that upset and take up a transformed life in complete support of an anger, egocentricity and alienation-free world.’

  • Winnifred Wickwire on August 19, 2020 at 11:21 pm

    More art work needed of mothers nurturing their sons. If this is how woman help to understand the human condition , please make it well know for future mothers. The role of motherhood is very difficult & heartbreaking most of the time & very unrewarding . Many mothers just give up & let their sons do what they want, especially single mothers. Please promote Motherhood , please promote motherhood, through your posters. & clothing. I will try to do this also. Thank you, for this life changing information but I feels now hopeless for my grown upset children as they are now set in their ways .

    • Susan on August 20, 2020 at 9:50 am

          It’s wonderful to have your interest in the WTM Winnifred and thank you for your suggestions and support.
          As Jeremy explains in FREEDOM the crucial role that nurturing has played in the maturation of our species and continues to play in our individual upbringing today, has been another of those unbearable truths that humans couldn’t face until we could explain our divisive, unloving human condition. It has been a very difficult and heartbreaking situation as you describe. I would highly recommend you read ch 6:13 of FREEDOM which is titled, Nurturing now becomes a priority. There Jeremy explains that ‘now that we have found that very good reason why parents have been unable to nurture their children with anything like the unconditional love children instinctively expect and need, it is no longer necessary to deny the importance of nurturing both in the maturation of our species and in our own lives. Yes, with the arrival of understanding the terrible guilt that parents have felt for not being able to adequately nurture their offspring departs. Parents can now understand that their inability to adequately love their offspring is not their fault, but the product of the ever-accumulating levels of upset in the human race as a whole that resulted from our species’ heroic 2-million-year search for knowledge, specifically for self-knowledge, understanding of why we conscious humans are good and not bad. So yes, we can finally now admit the importance of nurturing and turn our attention back to the nurturing of our offspring—in fact, it now becomes a matter of great urgency that we do both these things.’
          The innocence of children is absolutely devastated by the psychologically upset world of adults. Importantly however, it’s not what has happened to us in our lives so much as our inability to understand why it was happening that has been the problem. It’s been the terrible silence about the horror of the human condition that children have had to endure that is so devastating, and what leads to them to having to resign in their adolescence (you can read more about the process of Resignation in Freedom Essay 30).
          What heals the world is the honesty that is now available — real therapy comes through understanding. We can talk to children about the unavoidable journey of the human condition and how corrupted we’ve become, and that honesty is what will heal their troubled minds. We have had to live in denial of the human condition, hide in Plato’s dark cave where no exposing light could reach us. But now that we have redeeming understanding that denial is no longer necessary and there are many unbearably confronting truths, such as our inability to nurture, that can be safely confronted now, leading to the repair of the whole human race.

  • Adrea Easten on August 20, 2020 at 3:23 pm

    …if genius is “the ability to see the obvious” then this deceptively simple explanation of the role of the Ego in our evolution is ABSOLUTELY brilliant…I feel FREE, FREE, FREE…free of the dark confusion I’ve always felt because I could NEVER understand how ‘survival of the fittest’ allowed such a plethora of human misery-causing weakness to exist?! … from the bottom of my soul, THANK YOU for sharing this with all of us 😍
    BTW–this also may explain why so many people who care for intellectually disabled individuals ‘fall in love’ with their job? Not suggesting they are less evolved, just the opposite, as many of them do experience the prolonged nurturing you suggest may have helped us evolve.

  • peter jennings on August 23, 2020 at 1:17 am

    If ti was that simple We all would be living in a ideal world.Powerfull governments will always keep the under dog down .I n His speach he has not mentioned how the poor will ever prosper Regards Peter Jennings

    • Monica on August 24, 2020 at 2:10 pm

          We totally agree Peter that this information must reach everyone, very much including those less fortunate, and we are doing all we can to make these world-saving insights universally available. We are still in the pioneering stages of gathering support for these all confronting but wonderfully liberating insights and it will take some time to break through the bastions of power in the world, and for people to realise that this is what it says it is, as with any new scientific breakthrough in history. However once this information gets a foothold through enough people developing a deep appreciation and desire to support it, the selfless love and energy that will generated will solve our problems very quickly because instead of being preoccupied with power, fame, fortune etc, all our energies will be freed to truly work together and focus on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering in all the corners of the world.
          We do already have authoritative support, such as from arguably the world’s leading psychiatrist in Professor Prosen (see the commendations section on our website), a large and growing global subscriber base and over 40 WTM Centres all around the world (see this link), and in time we will attract more influential support which will in turn aid in helping those less fortunate to access this.

  • Noreen O' Shea on August 24, 2020 at 3:27 pm

    I just wanted to say Jeremy, I’m 55yrs old and speeking for my up bringing, it wasn’t right to be shown any kind of love, my brother and I were shown who was boss very early and didn’t speak out unless we were allowed and left with a lot of damage because off our up bringing, it was hell, we were beaten as if we were adults not very young children, I listened to what ye had to say, but I’m afraid it’s not that easy to get over it even at my age. Thank you for reading this.

    • Susan on August 25, 2020 at 10:26 am

          We are very, very sorry to hear about the pain you and your brother have suffered Noreen and are very appreciative of your interest. The human condition has absolutely been such a deeply, deeply tragic journey full of so much unthinkable pain and suffering, especially for children, it really is almost too much to bare.
          It certainly can be overwhelming trying to deal with the human-condition-afflicted suffering in ourselves and in the whole of the human race, but Noreen that therapy is now able to begin with the understanding that we now have of why it all happened, and from there we each, and the human race as a whole can work our way inwards to the core suffering within. So it is a process and as Jeremy says it’s going to take generations for all the anger and upset to subside and heal.
          What is significant about this explanation is we don’t have to be burdened by the fundamental question we all have struggled with of whether we are good or bad anymore because our fundamental goodness as a species has been biologically established (which THE Interview and Video/Freedom Essay 3 summarises). That macro truth looks after all humans now and we can treat ourselves with great compassion and kindness and know that what happened to us as infants was not because we weren’t good enough or that we were unlovable but rather the human condition caused a level of upset in humans so great it gave them the capacity for such acts of violence. Our FAQ 4.2 about human ‘evil’ may also be helpful. To quote an extract, “At long last we have the reason for humans’ capacity for shocking acts of cruelty, sadism, hate, murder and warfare—we now know the source of the dark volcanic forces in us humans” but “Importantly, this understanding of why we became upset as a species does not condone or sanction ‘evil’, rather, through bringing understanding to humans’ upset behaviour, it gives us the power to ameliorate and thus subside and ultimately eliminate it—and, in the short term, to transcend all that upset and take up a transformed life in complete support of an anger, egocentricity and alienation-free world.”
          It does take some time to absorb the significance of this information and it’s far-reaching implications so I hope you continue to explore our material as the more you absorb it the more you see that it will bring about the reconciled, loving world that you and your brother, and all children dream of. Further FAQs that we recommend are FAQ 4:1 about the transformation this information brings about and also FAQ 1:19 which explains that it can be very confronting and therefore destabilising on a personal level if people overly study the information or rush into it so that is something everyone should be mindful of and especially if you have a history of trauma or psychological instability.

  • terry gussin on August 25, 2020 at 11:58 am

    ty awesome news for humanity

  • Carlos on August 25, 2020 at 3:31 pm

    Oh Wow I’m completely blown away. Feels like a big mountain just got moved out of the way in terms of human progress and I want to tell everyone! How good’s this!

    • Durstin Gray on June 1, 2020 at 9:35 pm

      Yes, it’s not pie in the sky . We can truly have it now.
      The miss explanation we have lived with through religious control has ended and we can now live fully in FREEDOM. The word (SIN) is an old English word used by Archers in practice. Means, to miss the mark, and with Freedom explained we now cannot miss the mark. Durstin Gray.

  • sarah on August 26, 2020 at 5:44 pm

    Patriarchy is the psychosis!

    • Rozee Cutrone on August 29, 2020 at 7:49 am

      Current form of Capitalism reflects & supports competitive, agressive & selfish societies…angry egocentric & alienated. The conscious mind is a wonderful thing! Gnostics have known Adam & Eve were hero’s for thousands of years.

      • Tommy on August 29, 2020 at 2:13 pm

        Hi Rozee, I enjoy these topics you’ve raised! What I’ve learnt, and as Jeremy explains in this remarkable interview, is that there is the most magnificent reason for our angry, egocentric and alienated behaviour, all being by products of the corrupting but heroic search for knowledge. As you say the conscious mind is actually a wonderful thing, and this understanding only adds first principle biological evidence to that fact! Similarly as Jeremy touches on at the end, there is a really good reason for the right wing and capitalism, and although the whole world of politics can come to an end now with understanding, in the current political field the right wing actually held the high moral ground. This is further explained in the very enlightening Freedom Essay 34, will put link at the end, a must read!
        In terms of the Gnostics, I’ve recently read Freedom again and Jeremy refers to that relatively sound religion in chapter 8, explaining that they emphasised self-knowledge. Again I’ll try to find the link and put it at the end as you will enjoy reading it. The huge difference from the days of the Gnostics and all religions is the truth about human life that they present is all from a pre-scientific view. Solving the human condition required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great breakthrough that Jeremy Griffith has found (which is explained in the interview above). Again it is the biological proof for why Adam and Eve are the heroes of the whole story of life on Earth!
        https://www.humancondition.com/freedom-essays/understanding-human-condition-brings-end-to-politics/
        https://www.humancondition.com/freedom-less-guilt-emphasising-expressions-of-religion/

    • Susan on August 29, 2020 at 12:01 pm

          We disagree Sarah. At the heart of the explanation in THE Interview is the revelation that all our astonishingly selfish and brutal behaviour, especially on the part of men, has been an unavoidable consequence of humans’ necessary search for self-knowledge. The human condition has been a tragic situation and as Jeremy explains the rift that resulted between men and women has caused some of the deepest wounds in human life. Now we have understanding of our human-condition-psychosis which is shared by all humans, women are finally able to reason and see that what men have been doing on this planet has been actually the most meaningful and heroic job of all—and speaking from experience that is an absolute revelation! I will never forget when I first realised this, that men aren’t the monsters I thought they were, it literally did stop me dead in my tracks! Women have been the victims of men, we have been horribly oppressed and are now understandably very angry and resentful towards men. But as Jeremy always says, the question screaming to be asked is WHY have men oppressed women?! To finally have an answer to that is simply amazing and the rift between the sexes begins to heal at a rapid rate.
          As molecular biologist Dr Anna Fitzgerald says in her commendation of Jeremy’s work: ‘because Griffith’s work establishes the equal worth or goodness of all humans we can now understand the different roles that men and women have traditionally played in the human journey and this is actually the unlocking point, this is what brings about deep empathy for each other, it heals the divide.’ You can watch/read this Video/Freedom Essay 9 titled This is the real liberation of women here.
          For further understanding about the embattled relationship between men and women, and the subsequent reconciliation that is now available we recommend Freedom Essays 26 and 27. Or for a summary you can visit our FAQs about men and women here.

  • Nomad on August 27, 2020 at 3:04 pm

    Watch this video. In one hour it doesn’t just explain the human condition, it untangles it, brings relieving understanding to it, solves it, heals it, puts it to rest, makes it all clear, liberates us, transforms us all, you name it, it bloody well does it. It is the most important video on the planet. Like the man says, if you just watch one video in your life, make sure this is it!

  • Margie on August 29, 2020 at 12:04 am

    What a lovely and understandable explication of our inner soulful drive for Beauty and Peace. Thank you for giving me and others to see the light in this very dark place today.

  • LJ on August 29, 2020 at 11:45 pm

    How excellent!! Thank you!! I wish everyone could see life this way!! I don’t appreciate the pull into politics at the very end!! LOL Thank you again!!

  • Rik on September 2, 2020 at 7:16 am

    A revelation in every sense of the word. I hope for the sake of mankind that the whisper becomes a roar.
    Having taken thousands of years to get to this point, it is nigh on impossible to imagine that we have enough time to make things right before the light is lost forever.
    Where and how to start, when so many are not even aware that there is a question to be asked……

  • sonia joy proteau on September 3, 2020 at 5:27 am

    thank you very much for the information

  • Lizzy on September 3, 2020 at 4:03 pm

    Wow. This has brought everything home for me! incredible.

  • Bruce on September 4, 2020 at 10:26 am

    It’s not every day you read something so profound. Thank you.

  • Dennis Nash on September 5, 2020 at 3:54 am

    It is very interesting that he does have a great understanding of the human condition, but needs to go to the next level and that is how did we get here where did this soul and body and the greater power come from, leaving out a Supreme Intelligence (God) and referring to creation in the Garden of Eden as the plausible of his understanding is a late level it explains our Good/Bad but does not explain why we are here. The Bible conveys the reason written in veiled old Testament and Actual new Testament reasoning for our existence. However it is a great insight into the human condition leaving out our reason for being.
    Cheers, this is just a thought to provoke pre existence level via Supreme being. :)

    • Genevieve on September 6, 2020 at 9:55 am

      Hi Dennis, you might be interested in our Freedom Essay (FE) series where Jeremy explains the other key biological explanations in more detail. Namely, ‘How we acquired our altruistic moral conscience’ in FE21; ‘Fossil discoveries evidence our nurtured origins’ in FE22; ‘Integrative meaning or “God”‘ in FE23; ‘How did consciousness emerge in humans?’ in FE24 and ‘The truthful biology of life’ in FE25.

  • Paul Bennett on September 8, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    I gave an hour of my (shrinking volume of) life to this vid. I was determined that at the first mention of God, Christ, or anything overtly messianic, I would crash out. As it happens, I gave it some leeway due to the obvious Co Durham accent & (assumed) heritage of the host; (irrational, I know, but as a Darlington lad and a linguist, as well as aging hippie & devout atheist, I’m still not without harmless prejudice), but with still no mention of of anything religious or pseudo-mystical, I paused at the end of part 1, got some more beer, and continued.
    It was worth the loss of an hour of the time left to me. In short, if you have an open mind, but not so open that it admits obvious bollocks, it’s worth looking at, if you have an interest in the overlap of philosophy, anthropology, ethics, behavioural psychology, the power-dynamics, and invention of, religion, paedogogy, and with filaments reaching out in loads of other directions. It’s a bit too evangelistic for my taste, and the touted book isn’t something I’d regard as essential to everyday life, like the Bible or the Little Red Book, or Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance were supposed to be, but given the fact that the vid’s purpose seems to be as an infomercial to direct the viewer to the accompanying website, it’s acceptable as such. Favourable references to two of my modern-day heroes, St-Exupéry & van der Post, only increase my interest in the subject.
    I’d be interested to know what interested parties & recognised authorities in the field think/thought of the ideas espoused here. Sadly, we’ll never know the view of Prof Hawking, but the views of van der Post’s lifelong friend, HRH the Duke of Cornwall, Prof Steve Jones, and Prof Richard Dawkins would be, in my view, interesting and contributive.
    I believe this synopsis to be fair & reasonable. I’m not a scientist or a specialist in any of the areas I mention – I’m actually a musician & linguist. But if your mind is sufficiently open to admit interesting new ideas, but not to allow your brain to drop out of the hole, this is definitely worth looking at, and subsequent to posting this message, I intend to access the the cited website.
    Cheers, Paul The Same. If anyone is sufficiently interested to send me an email, they’ll be able to discover by trial & error my email address!

    • Susan on September 8, 2020 at 4:06 pm

      We greatly appreciate your interest Paul and encourage you to continue to investigate; it’s significance will only continue to grow on you. In fact, we suggest that the more you look into it, the more you will agree with Craig Conway and Professor Harry Prosen that this is a breakthrough of immeasurable importance to the human race.

  • koen roffel on September 8, 2020 at 5:07 pm

    I agree!
    Thanks for this information!
    Greetings from Amsterdam

    • Susan on September 8, 2020 at 5:31 pm

      Wonderful Koen! You may be interested to know that we have two WTM Centres in the Netherlands, the WTM Amsterdam Centre which was founded by Annemieke Akker and Hendrik Riksen, see https://www.wtmamsterdamnl.com (also available to view in Dutch), and the WTM Arnhem Centre founded by Jolanda Timmerman and Fred Lankamp, see https://www.wtmarnhem.com. You will see they each include wonderful videos talking about why they each established the Centres and contact information is available too. In addition, our introductory publications including THE Interview and Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM: The End of The Human Condition are also available in Dutch having been translated by Annemieke and Hendrik, and are freely available in Dutch on both websites. All of the many WTM Centres around the world can be seen at this link, https://www.humancondition.com/transformation/#wtm-centres-launch.

      • Marina Friedrich de Jong on November 24, 2020 at 3:53 am

        That’s amazing!!! Jeremy is an incredible man. Thank you very much Susan for a great news! I will share it with my husband, we are living in The Netherlands, he is Dutch & it’s always easier to learn it in your native language in parallel with English for deeper understanding. Can’t wait to buy the book.

        • WTM Admin on November 25, 2020 at 5:12 pm

              What wonderful feedback Marina! Now all our translations are also available on our website. Just go to our homepage http://www.humancondition.com and below the ‘Main Videos’ there is a ‘Translations’ button. Click that and follow the prompts to access THE Interview and many other WTM publications in various languages!
              You can buy purchase hard copies of FREEDOM and Jeremy’s other books at bookstores, including Amazon. Also they are all freely available to read online or download here on our website and the summary booklet Transform Your Life is also available as an audio book! Thank you for your comment and happy reading!

  • IMAMDAD KARUM on September 14, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    If my understanding is correct,the human’insticts, is as ancient as human history itself,but the process of developing human consciousness is gradually,started from epoch of Adam and Eve,What about the realization and consciousness of the existence of the soul, as the human personality is the component of body, intellect, and soul.What is the first creation of God, Universe, body, Intellect Or soul??? Thanks a lot for the kind explainations from some one.

    • Monica on September 15, 2020 at 10:33 am

      For an explanation of our all-loving, unconditionally selfless moral instincts or
      soul and how we acquired it Imamdad please see Freedom Essay 21, and for an explanation of integrative meaning and its personification as ‘God’ please see Freedom Essay 23.

  • Rachel on September 14, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    Complex yet a beautiful simplicity at the same time. What a feeling of hope.

  • Jw clink on September 15, 2020 at 3:24 am

    Explain to me why are dark skined people are hated all over the world???
    And, do you believe in God, or life after death?

    • Tony M on September 16, 2020 at 2:56 pm

          Thank you very much for your interest JW Clink. Significantly Jeremy Griffith’s breakthrough instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition allows us to understand why the horror of racism has existed under the duress of the human condition and, most importantly, finally brings it to an end. This desperately needed reconciling understanding of the relationship between races is explained in Freedom Essay 28. Some of our WTM Centre founders talk about this reconciliation and liberation from racism on their centre websites, including Aboriginal Michael Manolis from the WTM Broome Centre, and Franklin Mukakanga from the WTM Zambia Centre, see his video in Video/Freedom Essay 8.
          Although ultimately a fulfilment of religion (see FAQ 6.3), understanding of the human condition also finally makes it possible to explain and demystify religious concepts. In terms of understanding the theme or purpose or meaning of existence, and its personification as ‘God’ we would recommend Freedom Essay 23. And Jeremy explains and demystifies our need to believe in a physical ‘afterlife’ in par. 840 of FREEDOM and in more detail in this section of his 2003 book A Species In Denial.

  • jaginder shergill on September 16, 2020 at 4:44 am

    Wow, a book called course in miracles explains the human condition the same way. The two match almost completely but CIM describes it in spiritual way. Here its biological perspective. Thank you for the video.

    • Susan on September 16, 2020 at 10:02 am

      We appreciate your interest Jaginder however to see the huge difference between what we are presenting and the ‘Course in Miracles’, you may find this comment on Video/Freedom Essay 9 by subscriber Lesley Davies helpful. Lesley said: “I can now see why A Course in Miracles didn’t work for me. I completed the 365 day course three years running to try and heal myself from deep depression and anxiety. After reading essay 15 and studying Freedom it becomes clear that without the explanation of WHY we are so upset ACIM can only act as a sticky plaster with the ’scream’ still going on underneath.” We also recommend our FAQ 6.5, https://www.humancondition.com/wtm-faq-is-this-new-age/.

  • Ronald Bebout on September 17, 2020 at 3:16 am

    You changed my life forever in your video I just watched , it gave me hope that it’s not to late to change the world . Thank you so very much for sharing that with all of us !! ❤️
    You explained a lot of things that have been in my mind but I have never had the proper words to describe them . Now that we know the problem and the cause we need to figure out the solution …. and I hope you have some suggestions … I will be passing this on to other people, this is so important that all world leaders should know about it . We need to incorporate this to the schools…. it’s incredible that we have been creating our own problems ! This world definitely needs to transform into something better ! The hate is getting out of control !

  • Judith klu on September 20, 2020 at 3:58 pm

    Very true. Many thanks to Jeremy. God Bless him.

  • Alan on October 26, 2020 at 4:08 am

    Not really following this. What is it that I am forgiving myself for ? Or have I missed the point completely ?

    • WTM Admin on October 26, 2020 at 6:04 pm

          Hi Alan, the very nature of the human condition, the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad, means explanation of it can be initially difficult to access. It has been the most unbearably depressing and terrifying of subjects to face — why are we capable of such contradictory behaviour as to be selfless and loving but also selfish and destructive? Until that question could be answered, which it has in THE Interview, we have lived with a feeling of unworthiness, insecurity, shame and guilt and, necessarily, in almost total denial of the human condition, so it does take a while to fully appreciate the extent of our denial and the impact this can have on the way we respond to discussion of it.
          Significantly, now our upset state is explained and defended, we can safely re-connect with the human condition in ourselves and the world and bring love or forgiveness to our dark side. In fact the more you digest the explanation, the more you understand that becoming corrupt was an immensely heroic state, not a shameful one.
          It may help to watch/read Video/Freedom Essay 1 about this initial ‘deaf effect’ block to accessing discussion of the human condition and hopefully it will encourage your ongoing patience with this information. The summary in FAQ 1.16 might also be helpful.

  • Margaret J on October 26, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    My gut feeling about this is one of relief and strength and that maybe we can actually save the world. I am eager to investigate further and value this experience. I have told my family to watch this asap

  • mohamed reda on November 2, 2020 at 4:39 am

    You changed my life forever in your video I just watched , it gave me hope that it’s not to late to change the world . Thank you so very much for sharing that with all of us !! ❤️

  • Carole KOHL-DUGGAN on November 24, 2020 at 2:18 am

    Very enlightening and moving! Thank you! It reminds me of the words of Christina von Dreien. We have all forgotten that we are all children( souls) of the light… Everything that is helping us to remember will solve our inherited problem. And the science of today has found in its new dimension of knowledge how to explain this to us. In gratitude Carole.

    • Annie on November 24, 2020 at 6:01 pm

      It’s wonderful to have your appreciative feedback Carole. What is so significant about Jeremy Griffith’s biological treatise is it actually answers the essential question of why, when the ideals are to be loving and selfless, are we so competitive and selfish? Why have we forgotten about the all-sensitive world of our soul? The fundamental problem the human race has always had is to explain or justify competitive, selfish and aggressive behaviour. That is what Jeremy finally explains with his instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition and what is of unique importance to the survival of the world. As you say the science of today has finally found the much-needed knowledge to explain this which is indeed enlightening and moving because it floods the world with relief and freedom! The full significance of this explanation does takes time to absorb, but the more you do absorb it, the more you realise just how all-reconciling and liberating it is. Our FAQ 6.5 which explains the huge difference between Jeremy’s work and that of spiritual, new age movements may be of interest.

  • De De Smith on December 16, 2020 at 12:27 am

    Explained at last where it makes sense and is understandable

  • Damon Isherwood on December 16, 2020 at 5:07 pm

    What a presentation! This is so concise, and yet all-encompassing.

  • Mark Gigiel on December 17, 2020 at 10:05 am

    I came here from an ad on YouTube. It’s the question I have had on my mind for a long time, so I clicked. I’m not as positive though. Because I think it may be too late to save ourselves. We have plundered the ecosystem to it’s limit and beyond and I believe it’s just a matter of time before complete collapse. NOTHING will change soon enough. I’m not knocking any of the video or research or books. I just think it’s too late. I want my glass to be half full instead of half empty. I just don’t see it.

    • Genevieve on December 22, 2020 at 5:57 pm

          Your pessimism about whether we can save ourselves is understandable Mark. All the problems we’re experiencing on this planet, aside from natural phenomenon, are caused by us humans and it’s the underlying issue of our destructive behaviour that has to be understood if we are to solve the world’s problems—we certainly need answers and we need them urgently! There is a quote in FREEDOM ch 1:2 about humans needing “psychological maturity fast. We are locked in a race between self destruction and self discovery” to which Jeremy responds “Yes, our species has come to the critical juncture where ONLY ‘self discovery’—reconciling, ameliorating, ‘psychological[ly]’ healing understanding of ourselves—could save us from ‘self destruction’.” We urge you to re-visit THE Interview, and I’m sure you will begin to see that what Jeremy is presenting is actually that desperately needed reconciling understanding. Our FAQs about the human condition and how it can be resolved are an excellent resource.
          Also, you might find Jeremy Griffith’s Freedom Essays about ‘Do we fail or do we make it?’ fascinating, see F. Essays 55—58. These present a fearless hard hitting analysis of the state of the world followed by how the extraordinary transforming power of this information can save the world. The significance of the explanation of the human condition takes some time to absorb as humans do have an historic fear of the whole subject (see F. Essay 1), but the more you do absorb it, the more you realise just how all-reconciling and solving it is and that all our deepest dreams have come true. All our glasses are actually overflowing now with lasting and transformative solutions, real joy and happiness can return to the human species!

  • Lori Frank on December 17, 2020 at 1:45 pm

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts. They’re brilliant and I believe do you have it right! I’m so excited for the human race to become in lightened.
    The simplicity of it makes it hard to grasp so I’ll most definitely be watching again. Namaste 🙏

    • Lori Frank on December 18, 2020 at 1:38 am

      *Enlightened❤️

  • Marlene Bince on December 18, 2020 at 7:11 am

    It’s super amazing to learn from outmost Jeremy, you are so brilliant !!! Thank you 🌈

  • cathy on December 18, 2020 at 9:33 am

    thank you

  • Greg on December 19, 2020 at 10:51 am

    I agree 100% we need to change, we need to end all war!

  • Charlotte on December 20, 2020 at 12:48 am

    Wonderful enlightenment

  • Hannah on December 20, 2020 at 9:01 am

    Jeremy,
    Thank you for all the study and thought and hard work you have put into this! I have just now been introduced to your work and your viewpoint. I am a social worker and counselor. My mind is racing with all the ramifications of this simple but huge revelation. Do you think that, having functioned in this upset state with wrong-headed truth and denial so prevalent for so long, this state is now part of our genetic imprint? That perhaps even though able to see differently, we are most prone to act in harmony with an archetype of angry alienation? Humans adore the status quo and no matter how irrational and painful, many will cling to it. Some will stubbornly cling to indoctrination, others to denial of the ability to think. There will be many barriers to change. Thank you for starting us down the path, however long. You have given me a great deal of hope – a precious thing to an old woman.

    • Annie on December 20, 2020 at 3:49 pm

          Thank you so much for your appreciative and thoughtful comment Hannah. Yes as Jeremy writes in FREEDOM par 241, “while the crux question facing the human race, of the much-needed clarification of the nature of ‘good and evil’, does have an amazingly simple answer, the implications of it could not be more significant, far-reaching or exciting” so it’s no wonder your mind is racing! There is a lot to absorb and adjust to as this explanation does present the ultimate paradigm shift no less.
          Most significantly Jeremy explains humans’ angry and alienated behaviour is not a product of unchangeable savage animal instincts within us, but the result of a psychosis, caused by the clash between our instinct and intellect, and a psychosis IS changeable as it can be healed through understanding. As he explains in FREEDOM ch 8:16E, there is some genetic adaptation to upset, but it is miniscule compared with our all-loving instinctive soul, developed over the millions of years that we were living lovingly and cooperatively before the human condition emerged. To quote the end of that chapter “Even the upset that is now instinctive, in our genes, will not be an issue because when our capacity to love is finally liberated, as it can now be, it will effectively make all our upset—both psychological and instinctive—disappear without a trace. It is all history now” So this transformation is certainly happening! Just look at the incredible Commendations on our homepage and also our fabulous Transformation page—both are a must-visit!
          Yes humans find change difficult and the current paradigm will resist so, as with any new scientific breakthrough in history, it will take time for people to realise this IS the great breakthrough in understanding ourselves. But with more support—through people such as yourself recognising the importance of this information—our capacity to love will solve our problems very quickly (see our FAQs 1.4–1.6). Thank you again Hannah (and this all-reconciling-and-relieving information makes us youthful and alive again no matter our age!).

      • Zubair Mohammad Khan on December 20, 2020 at 11:14 pm

        I listened to jeremy with interest and curosity. I am sure soon we will be able to heal this psychosis with understanding

  • Michael Anthony Cordio on December 21, 2020 at 12:32 pm

    thank you…………

  • Sonya on December 21, 2020 at 12:57 pm

    Thank you

  • Katarzyna Szumska on December 22, 2020 at 1:38 pm

    Thank You, since I have been questioned if I can imagine the world with loving and supporting way,- for 1 year I am trying to imagine that world, I believe we can manifest that.
    It is remarkable and I wish to share it in different languages please (polish).
    Dostoevsky (I would like to know, which publication describe that please)
    So thankful for that, it gives us relief and Letting GO

    • Annie on December 23, 2020 at 8:26 pm

          Finally, with understanding of the human condition Katarzyna, we can at last not just imagine but actually live in support of and help bring about the transformation of the world when, as Jeremy Griffith writes in FREEDOM ch 9:8, par 1217: “And what did that truth-saying prophet John Lennon ‘imagine’? A time when the human condition is resolved and ‘the world will be as one’, when there will be ‘no heaven [above us and] no hell below us’; when, in essence, there will be a world without the condemning differentiation of good and evil, a world liberated from the insecurity of the human condition and thus the need for religion, where, as Lennon sang, there will be ‘Nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too…all the people living life in peace…No need for greed or hunger, a brotherhood of man…all the people sharing all the world’ (Imagine, 1971).” You must read chapter 9 of FREEDOM titled ‘The Transformation of The Human Race’ Katarzyna because it wraps us up in relief and shows us how we can let go of our upset and embrace freedom! That’s why I think it is the best chapter of the best book ever written!
          The sublime passage from the great Russian novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky that Jeremy quotes in THE Interview is referenced there as from Dosstoevsky’s short story The Dream of a Ridiculous Man written in 1877.
          We do have THE Interview, and other WTM publications, translated into Afrikaans, Dutch, French, German and Spanish. Unfotunately we don’t yet have any Polish translations but keep an eye on our homepage http://www.humancondition.com where, below the ‘Main Videos’ there is a ‘Translations’ button, which shows all our translations at any given time. Until a Polish translation is available you can watch all our videos using the subtitles function. The subtitles icon ‘cc’ is at the bottom of easy video player.

      • Kenneth Parsons on December 31, 2020 at 10:08 pm

        Hope at last for mankind.

  • Terrance Scott on December 23, 2020 at 2:30 am

    How long do you think it will take mankind to start healing itself from all the trauma it has placed on itself?

    • WTM Admin on December 25, 2020 at 11:31 am

      Jeremy’s instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition does lift the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race. It establishes that while we are all inevitably variously upset from our encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find understanding of our corrupted condition, we can now know that every human is fundamentally good. That is the key relieving understanding we have been in search of ever since we became conscious some 2 million years ago and our corrupted condition emerged. So in terms of humanity’s rehabilitation it will be a generational process but this key understanding brings immediate psychological relief to our minds and from there we start to heal. This is explained in our FAQ 1.4 and you might also like to read Hannah’s comment and reply to her below. As Craig Conway says in THE Interview “the truth of our fundamental goodness is the truth that we needed to set us free from the human condition”!

  • Thomas Due on December 23, 2020 at 2:53 am

    For some years I have been researching upon some of the same thoughts. How liberating to see how large these truly good ideas already have become within a parallel track – Thanks Jeremy! … and all the rest of you for seeing the same light.

    • Tony M on December 23, 2020 at 11:43 am

      It’s great to have your interest Thomas and thank you for your feedback. Yes, this understanding is all-liberating because it finally relieves us of the great burden of the human condition we have all had to carry until now. Our Video/Freedom Essay 4 discusses that while many have identified the elements of instinct and intellect involved in creating the human condition, the great breakthrough Jeremy’s treatise provides is the clarifying explanation of the nature of the conflict between them and explains without that explanation the conflict could not be resolved. (I’m sure you will find this essay, and also its companion F. Essay 53 most fascinating.) This really is the holy grail of the whole human journey of conscious thought and enquiry no less! As Professor Harry Prosen expresses in his Introduction to FREEDOM in par 3: “Jeremy provides that great unifying, make-sense-of-everything synthesis—for not only does his treatise explain the human condition—our species’ capacity for what has been called ‘good’ and ‘evil’—his ability to plumb the great depths of this most foreboding of all subjects has meant that he has also been able to provide the fully accountable explanation of the other great outstanding mysteries in science”

  • Arcindo Rodrigues on December 23, 2020 at 11:44 am

    I appreciate this audio book that is so unbelievable, I love it!

  • علی Alida on December 23, 2020 at 1:04 pm

    So far as I understand it, I enjoyed and believe it must be spread all over the world.

  • Callum Poklington on December 24, 2020 at 5:07 pm

    I love this, simple to understand and free! I’ve always felt apart from society. I care. I ended up a heroin addict, no excuses here. I love everyone and can’t understand why everyone doesn’t feel the same. You explain why…

    • WTM Admin on December 25, 2020 at 9:11 am

      Yes Callum the human condition has caused so much unbearable suffering and isolation for humans it has been a deeply tragic reality. The core breakthrough of Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is we no longer have to be burdened by the fundamental question of whether we are good or bad because our core goodness as individuals and as a species has been biologically established. We can know our psychological upset was the price humans had to pay for searching for knowledge and that the human story presents the greatest, most heroic story ever told. So we can now look after ourselves with great compassion and kindness and we don’t have to overly confront the upset within us (as FAQ 1.19 summarises).

  • Callum Poklington on December 24, 2020 at 5:26 pm

    The 12step program of NA not AA, is the look at the belief system and not the substance. It is also not religious but spiritual. In conjunction with your treatise it offers a way to live in harmony while free from the burdons of guilt, remorse and shame which I guess in essence is some of what you propose too. Most addicts, I’ve found, felt apart from society without knowing why. You offer a solution to that question which brings hope. For that I am immensely grateful to you. I go to war with my brain on a daily basis as do most addicts, in recovery or not, this is trying and fruitless. It drains energy and creates stress. A life not worth living is the feeling often associated with this existence.
    You offer hope in the guise of an explanation of our condition, I get that now, thank you. For you efforts, time patience and perseverance I thank you.
    Hope is such a huge thing to an addict especially one in recovery..

  • Diana McIntosh on December 25, 2020 at 1:35 am

    Fascinating!

  • Alexandra Addams on December 25, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    Had to listen twice, and read the chapters slowly to take it in because it made so much sense i thought i might misunderstand and this is just fascinating and i hope more people read about this. Thank you

    • Annie on December 26, 2020 at 1:55 pm

      It is the most fascinating information Alexandra and everyone certainly needs to access it so your comment is much appreciated! As is mentioned in THE Interview we’ve had to live in denial of our psychologically upset human condition while we couldn’t explain it so it makes sense we need to re-visit the explanation a few times to access it. This is termed the ‘deaf effect’ and is the subject of Video/Freedom Essay 1 titled ‘Your block to the most wonderful of all gifts’. After THE Interview, we recommend people watch or read Video/Freedom Essays 1-14 and 14 on our homepage, as together they provide a concise summary of the key understandings of the human condition. You can subscribe to our free mailing list to receive all Freedom Essays here. (You might also like to read the reply to Alan’s comment below which includes more information about this initial Deaf Effect.)

  • Joe hema on December 26, 2020 at 9:19 am

    explained in such an easy understandable way thank you

  • Marija Susa on December 26, 2020 at 8:58 pm

    Amazing❤️❤️❤️

  • Ealeorah Ravleen on December 27, 2020 at 1:45 am

    Thank you 🙏🏻❤️
    It means a lot to all woken people, to have a channel thats free and dare to criticise the media propaganda.
    Thank you for putting your life out there 🙏🏻
    Ealeorah

  • Anaemaia Vocito on December 27, 2020 at 1:47 am

    Wonderful just what we needed simply explained

  • LorXena on December 27, 2020 at 5:17 am

    Thank you for bringing a better understanding of the human condition and what we must strive to seek to heal within while sharing with others so that they may also embrace a more gentle and cooperative way of living.

  • Hildegard Daumuller on December 27, 2020 at 8:44 am

    Very interesting. Hope Humanity is willing to cooperate united towards World-Peace

    • Susan on December 28, 2020 at 3:58 pm

      It’s great to have your interest Hildegard! There is much to think about and absorb in this introductory presentation but as Jeremy explains since our species’ divisive behaviour is due to a psychosis, that divisive behaviour can be cured with healing understanding. That is incredibly exciting news, because with understanding we can finally end our psychologically troubled human condition and legitimately return to a cooperative way of living. So, in a world fast going crazy from the effects of the human condition, this is the now desperately needed reconciling understanding that brings about a new world free of the agony of the human condition. As our FAQ 1.6 summarises it actually ends our upset behaviour and thus brings the long-hoped for lasting peace to the human race!

  • Stephen Agyeman Duah on December 28, 2020 at 9:09 am

    Powerful Message which everyone needs to hear. Thanks

  • Elvira truman on December 29, 2020 at 10:02 am

    I love the comment it’s help a lot of people I
    and me very Powerful message thank you A God Bless 🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • Mo KAIDI on December 29, 2020 at 1:34 pm

    Thanks 🙏🏼
    Everyone should hear 👂🏿 it
    Thanks 🙏🏼

  • Myke McCormick on December 31, 2020 at 12:23 am

    If humans were instinctively cooperative why would we, have conflict with those instincts?
    I think it more likely we have always been both or at the least, the capacity to express both. And not only express both but encourage encourage and rationalize both aspects.

    • Annie on January 4, 2021 at 3:12 pm

      Thanks for your question and thoughts Myck. The biology presented is absolutely fascinating but there’s much to absorb. Instincts are naturally selected orientations not understandings of cause and effect. Therefore, no matter their particular orientation, instincts are going to be against any divergent behaviour. Our instincts are to be loving and cooperative, but the point is that these loving and cooperative instincts are, like any instincts, hardwired, they are rigid, and so they are in effect intolerant of any non-instinctive behaviour. And so, when our conscious mind wrested control from our instincts and began its search for understanding (as Jeremy explains in the Adam Stork story) “Adam’s instincts realise he has strayed off course they are going to criticise his deprogrammed behaviour and dogmatically try to pull him back on his instinctive flight path! In effect, they are going to condemn him as being bad.” Jeremy explains this in greater detail in FREEDOM ch 3:3 pars 247-248. He also explains that having loving instincts, as opposed to something like a bird’s flight path, actually made our human situation so much worse, describing it as a ‘double and triple whammy’ (see FREEDOM ch 3:5). At last we can understand our contradictory behaviour and resolve the deep conflict within us!

  • Kenneth Parsons on December 31, 2020 at 9:57 pm

    Hope at last for mankind.

  • Anneli Hamp on January 1, 2021 at 2:10 am

    Thank you 🙏🏻💫😇

  • Bernardette Kasum on January 1, 2021 at 4:59 am

    Thank you so very very much for this.
    ✨🦋✨

  • Maria Wikberg on January 1, 2021 at 7:25 am

    Extraordinary to us all, making way to understand everything, to solve all sorts of problem in human realationships to get peace & all world problems solved against solutions, in this new chanses to forgivening abilities comes truth:)
    Bad in english so sorry!

  • Kip Keitany on January 2, 2021 at 1:50 am

    Great!

  • Emmanuel Oteng-Bediako on January 2, 2021 at 3:29 am

    This is God-sent! I’m happy to run into this on the first day of 2021! Kind of auspicious for me!

    Emmanuel

  • Tajhanna Romanoff on January 2, 2021 at 3:36 am

    That was beautiful talking about life conditions a lifetime of thanks

  • CHIRAYIL MATHEW on January 2, 2021 at 4:49 am

    Excellent presentation. Learned much.

  • Connor on January 2, 2021 at 11:17 am

    This explanation will transform your life and save the world – plain & simple. Do yourself a favour and take a look!

    • Alfred Aflatooni on January 2, 2021 at 1:46 pm

      Thank you.
      Alfred.

  • Marie khan on January 2, 2021 at 9:33 pm

    Studying psychotherapy for the last 3 years I have been interested in how to help clients suffering from historical trauma where current research suggests talking therapy isn’t enough as the body stores trauma in the nerves, so I was delighted to hear your talk about the human condition, thankyou.

    • Monica Kodet on January 3, 2021 at 1:05 pm

      It’s wonderful to have your feedback Marie. As the eminent psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen says this is “the most important interview of all time” because it “is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race…that saves the world”. So Jeremy Griffith’s work couldn’t represent a more significant breakthrough in psychotherapy as it presents the psychosis-addressing-and-solving real explanation of the human condition that can finally relieve and heal our deeply conflicted and troubled upset state. Jeremy is in the process of writing the upcoming new Freedom Essays 63: ‘Pseudo Therapy/Healing’ and 64: ‘Real Therapy/Healing’ which will explain the huge difference between current therapies and the effective psychological therapy that understanding of the human condition now at last makes possible. You might like to subscribe to our free mailing list here to receive this Essay Series and be notified of when these new essays are available.

  • Ingo Herber on January 3, 2021 at 12:05 am

    Let’s go!

  • Robert hagger on January 3, 2021 at 1:23 am

    This is amazing this is very helpful

  • Patrick Cavanaugh on January 3, 2021 at 5:00 am

    I’m a Jordan Peterson fan. This sounds interesting

    • Tony M on January 3, 2021 at 3:06 pm

          Great to have your interest Patrick. This information is endlessly fascinating with much to consider which takes a little time. The fundamental problem the human race has always had is to explain or justify competitive, selfish and aggressive behaviour. That is the issue of the human condition that Jeremy Griffith finally explains and why his work is of unique importance to the survival of the world. After THE Interview we encourage people to watch/read our Introductory Videos/Freedom Essays 1-4 and 14 on our homepage. You will see in Video/Freedom Essay 14 Jeremy discusses Jordan Peterson’s work, which he describes as immensely heroic yet doomed, because only the psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real explanation of the human condition can stop the destruction of our world and the disintegration of society that is happening everywhere we look. It is precisely this real psychologically redeeming and transforming explanation that Jeremy has delivered in his first principle-based biological understanding of the human condition.
          I might say despite Peterson not explaining the biology of the human condition correctly Jeremy is very appreciative of his work. You will see that Jeremy refers to a quote of Peterson’s in this essay that was published by Spectator Magazine recently which you can read at this link.

  • Leong on January 3, 2021 at 10:42 am

    Hi Jeremy,
    I’d like to find out more about this new science.
    Thank you
    Leong

    • Annie on January 3, 2021 at 3:24 pm

          It’s wonderful you want to look even deeper into this new science that explains our human condition Leong! We have a helpful guide on our Transformation page here which suggests the publications to further introduce yourself to Jeremy Griffith’s work. It also shows how you can become involved in this immensely exciting and important project!
          Also, on our homepage you can learn all about our fabulous WTM community with over 40 WTM Centres around the world. And we now have a World Transformation Movement Facebook Community so feel free to join and share in the discussion, excitement and fellowship there and on our website!

  • Eglin on January 3, 2021 at 1:46 pm

    Thank You

  • Mike anderer on January 3, 2021 at 1:50 pm

    Amazing!

  • Eddrena Lynn Tucker on January 3, 2021 at 4:38 pm

    It’s amazing

  • Dawit Yikealo Tekle on January 3, 2021 at 7:46 pm

    I would like to hear and read more about this finding. I really appreciate it.

  • Chris PERCIVAL on January 3, 2021 at 8:16 pm

    Interesting interpretation. I think i would like to see a psychologists assesment, rather than the quotes from the early philosophers who didnt have evidence to support their statements about early humans.
    It is interesting as this implies our moral framework is actually based in the non-conscious mind, which does make sense as ‘morality’ is the most effective way to orient oneself, and our non-conscious ansestors must have had an effective non-conscious morality else we would not have survived as a species.

    • Tony M on January 6, 2021 at 3:02 pm

          Thank you for your thoughts Chris. We appreciate your interest. In THE Interview Jeremy mentions, along with the early philosophers, some contemporary thinkers who have truthfully recognised the basic instinct vs intellect elements involved in producing the human condition. He mentions Eugène Marais, Paul MacLean and Arthur Koestler. Their work, along with other contemporary thinkers that have recognised, not only the instinct vs intellect elements involved, but also that we have cooperative and loving moral instincts, is described in detail in Freedom Essay 53. This evidence of previous thinkers that have identified the instinct vs intellect elements also helps context the significance of finally being able to explain exactly how this clash occurred which Jeremy does by clarifying the difference between the way the instincts and intellect work. Also eminent psychiatrist Prosen Harry Prosen endorses THE Interview as “the most important interview of all time”. You might like to visit our commendations from thought leaders including psychologists on our homepage, for instance professor of psychology Scott Churchill states “Nothing Dr. Prosen has said about the immense importance of this book is an exaggeration. This is the book all humans need to read for our collective wellbeing.”
          Yes the biology of the human condition is absolutely fascinating! As Jeremy says in THE Interview “how we acquired our moral instincts has been one of the greatest mysteries in biology. The primatologist Richard Wrangham described it as ‘A question that has lain unsolved at the core of biology ever since Darwin’. And Darwin himself described it as the ‘one special difficulty’ with his concept of natural selection”. This is because in order to have an instinctive altruistic moral nature, it follows that our distant ape ancestors must have been cooperative and loving, not competitive and aggressive like other animals. But, since altruistic, unconditionally selfless genetic traits are self-eliminating, and therefore seemingly cannot develop in animals, that leaves the question of how could we humans have developed them? As Jeremy explains the answer was through nurturing (which you can read further about in chapter 5:4 of FREEDOM).
          While we cannot directly examine our distant ancestors, the fossil record is very helpful in confirming that this nurturing process occurred, and that their behaviour, and therefore psychology, was cooperative (see chapter 5:5 of FREEDOM). And beyond the fossil record, our closest living relative, the bonobos, gives us an amazing insight into this nurturing process, and the loving moral lives of our ancestors. Jeremy actually describes in FREEDOM the “astonishing and irreplaceable evidence they provide of our origins”. So I also very much recommend chapter 5.6 of FREEDOM which describes in great detail the bonobos and how they evidence our own moral instincts.

  • Hadahra Ben-Israel on January 4, 2021 at 7:18 pm

    Very interested.
    Thank you

  • Philip Gahan on January 4, 2021 at 7:20 pm

    Can’t wait!

  • Tony on January 5, 2021 at 1:35 am

    How can I obtain a copy of the book

    • WTM Admin on January 5, 2021 at 2:20 pm

      Great to have your interest Tony. Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition, its summary Transform Your Life And Save The World and THE Interview, are made freely available on our homepage. You can read them online or download them (no email required) and Transform Your Life is also available as an audio book! If you prefer you can download the free Kindle versions or purchase hard copies from Amazon and hard copies are also available at other good bookstores.

  • Matiias on January 5, 2021 at 8:29 am

    Thank you much for this thank you 🙏

  • Arjen de Haan on January 5, 2021 at 9:10 pm

    Zoals ik begrepen heb is de download gratis [As I understand it, the download is free]

    • WTM Admin on January 6, 2021 at 2:36 pm

          Yes Arjen you can freely download THE Interview in various formats. There is a ‘Download—books/video/audio’ button at the top of this page and all Jeremy Griffith’s books are freely available on our homepage (please see our reply to Tony below for more details).
          THE Interview is also available in Dutch!! Our WTM Amsterdam Centre present HET Interview along with Dutch translations of Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM (VRIJHEID: Het Einde Van De Menselijke Conditie), its summary booklet Transform Your Life (Transformeer Jouw Leven En Red De Wereld) and our key Introductory Videos/Freedom Essays 1 – 4 and 14. As well as these Dutch translations THE Interview and other WTM publications are available in Afrikaans, French, German and Spanish on our homepage (see below the ‘Main Videos’ the ‘Translations’ button).

  • Adam on January 6, 2021 at 8:27 am

    Very informative!!!!

  • Rolf Räss on January 6, 2021 at 9:21 am

    Danke für dieses Geschenk! [Thank you for this gift! (Translated from German.)]

  • Jaime on January 6, 2021 at 11:57 am

    I would like to know more about it

    • WTM Admin on January 7, 2021 at 2:44 pm

      It’s wonderful you want to pursue your interest in our work Jaime. Our helpful Introductory Guide shows the steps to further introduce yourself to this understanding of the human condition, including after THE Interview looking at our key Introductory Videos/Freedom Essays 1-4 and 14 on our homepage. Happy exploring!

  • Donna on January 6, 2021 at 3:54 pm

    Wow, powerfully helpful talk.

  • javon on January 7, 2021 at 7:28 am

    I would absolutely love an audiobook. I could get to listening to it right now on the go

    • Annie on January 7, 2021 at 2:58 pm

      I’m with you javon—listening to this information is the best! There is a ‘Download—books/video/audio’ button at the top of this page so download the audio file and off you go! Also our amazing Freedom Essays are available as podcasts. All easy to access from our WTM App — just search ‘World Transformation Movement’ in the App Store on your device. You can also subscribe here and be sent two essays each week.

  • Garry Colling on January 7, 2021 at 1:59 pm

    Brilliant, absolutely love it

  • Robert Byrne on January 7, 2021 at 6:33 pm

    This theory for the evolution and development of humans is to humanity what I think “The Theory of Everything” is to physics. I would say it will be a keystone of finally validating a “theory of everything.” This was literally a revelation for me. I have read Dr Richard Dawkins (almost all his works I believe), in his book The Selfish Gene, I struggled with the question as to why destructive to the species genes (violence, war, egotism) be passed along, it seemed to me a such a self-destructive trait that would lead to the end of the species. Now I finally *_understand!_* Amazing, awesome! This is a sea change for humanity without a doubt. Thank you from Canada, the country that thinks it’s better than the US our nearest neighbour and yeah, we are, especially after witnessing today’s events — January 6th — south of the border. This explains that country completely.

    • WTM Admin on January 8, 2021 at 8:44 pm

      We so agree Robert! This astonishing framework of denial-free knowledge actually does present the theory of everything and is an amazing revelation! Others have also struggled to accept the selfish gene theory as this comment by Alex Owens in our Online Endorsements shows: ‘I’ve had many a restless night wondering whether we are just lumbering shells to protect and reproduce genes, that there is no purpose to our existence and that anything is “allowed.” But there was a part of me that knew I wouldn’t feel guilty or that humanity wouldn’t have so many psychological problems if survival of the individual’s genes were all that mattered. Then I found Jeremy Griffith.’ It is wonderful to have your good wishes from Canada. We have WTM Centres all over the world including three in Canada which you can explore here. Yes this does explain the ever-increasing levels of upset, alienation and polarisation happening around the world but especially in America at the moment. This is further dealt with in Freedom Essays 34 – 36. This end-play stage of humanity’s journey is certainly a shocking and turbulent time and our thoughts are with all Americans and the world.

  • Dr. Samira El-Laithy on January 8, 2021 at 12:18 am

    V. Enlightening

  • Ernest Nagy de Nagybaczon on January 8, 2021 at 9:38 pm

    Thank you. It is wonderfully enlightening.

  • Eabha on January 10, 2021 at 10:51 am

    What a fascinating subject to talk about and it very compacted subject to talk about it’s quite confusing but thank you very you guys very interesting people
    Kind regards
    Eabha

    • Annie on January 11, 2021 at 6:39 pm

      Explanation of the human condition is certainly fascinating Eabha, but it presents a massive paradigm shift in the way we view humans which takes some time to absorb. Also the human condition has historically been a very fearful subject which can make it initially hard to access or ‘hear’, see FAQ 1.16. So we suggest you re-visit THE Interview because at first it may appear too dense and therefore confusing, but the more you do absorb it, the more you realise just how all-clarifying, all-redeeming, all-reconciling, all-healing, all-liberating it is!

  • Jo Thacker on January 10, 2021 at 4:52 pm

    Watched the interview. Fascinating!!! Hope this book eradicates hate, racism and other forms of atrocities to humanity. I feel this book is an educator if people would endeavor to read and understand the concepts. How can I get a copy of this book?? Thank you Sir for your thought, time and energy to produce this book “FREEDOM” Be blessed.

    • Annie on January 10, 2021 at 8:10 pm

      Thank you for your thoughtful comment Jo and Jeremy Griffith’s breakthrough ‘instinct v intellect’ explanation of the human condition certainly is the education we so desperately need to end such atrocities. For example in Video/Freedom Essay 8 Franklin Mukakanga, founder of the Zambian WTM Centre, describes how it brings reconciling understanding to the relationship between races. Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition, its summary Transform Your Life And Save The World and THE Interview, are made freely available on our homepage. You can read them online or download them (no email required) and Transform Your Life is also available as an audio book! If you prefer you can download the free Kindle versions or purchase hard copies from Amazon and hard copies are also available at other good bookstores.

  • Beat Z'Rotz on January 10, 2021 at 7:11 pm

    Thank you for your great insight and understanding of the human condition. Let us give hope to all human that we all can finally become complete and happy. ONE FAMILY CENTERED ON GOD’S LOVE
    If I would have the chance, to meet you one day I would be happy to

    • Genevieve on January 14, 2021 at 10:02 am

      Thank you for your wonderful comment Beat Z’rotz and yes having our fundamental goodness biologically established and the awesome meaning and power of finally being aligned with the truth of integrative meaning (what we can now understand we have personified as ‘God’—see FAQ 6.2) truly does unite us all. As Jeremy describes in FREEDOM par 1166, “the wonderful empathy and equality of goodness and fellowship that understanding of the human condition now allows us to feel for our fellow humans; the freedom now to effectively focus on repairing the world; and, above all, the radiant aliveness from the optimism that comes with knowing our species’ march through hell has finally ended and that a human-condition-free new world is coming—CAN NOW TRANSFORM EVERY HUMAN AND THUS THE WORLD.” We’d love a chance to meet you too Beat! On our homepage you can learn all about our fabulous WTM community, our global WTM centres and our Global Transformation Meetings. We also have a World Transformation Movement Facebook Community so please feel free to share in the discussion, excitement and fellowship there and on our website!

  • James on January 10, 2021 at 8:36 pm

    I am trying to work out why this is being considered as a new discovery.

    • WTM Admin on January 11, 2021 at 6:51 pm

          In THE Interview Jeremy Griffith points out that the elementary situation of our conscious mind defying our cooperative instincts was recognised by Richard Heinberg when he summarised that “everywhere in religion and myth there is an acknowledgment that we departed from an original innocence”, “there is the recognition that human consciousness has been separated from the divine source”. The problem has been that in those pre-scientific times there was no ability to explain what caused our divisive condition because we didn’t know about the difference in the gene-based and nerve-based learning systems.
          Some 3,500 years ago, the exceptionally honest, denial-free thinking prophet Moses went as close as you could possibly go without science to actually explain the human condition when he said “we took the fruit from the tree of knowledge [became conscious] and were disobedient [obviously meaning we developed a conscious free will that defied our already established instincts that had been controlling our lives] and became perpetrators of sin [sufferers of psychologically upset, divisive behaviour]”.
          And with regard to what’s happened in the last century or so, Jeremy explains that “while all contemporary thinkers have had the benefit of science having revealed the difference between the gene-based and nerve-based learning systems, and have therefore had the means to truthfully explain the human condition, those who did recognise the basic instinct vs intellect elements didn’t take their thinking far enough to actually explain the human condition. And those who have been attached to the false savage instincts excuse—which is the great majority of scientists—obviously haven’t been thinking truthfully, so they couldn’t hope to explain the human condition.”

  • Karen Bell on January 10, 2021 at 9:51 pm

    Hello Jeremy and co-founders,
    Psychotherapists and psychological workers everywhere work with the core conditions first developed by Carl Rogers, and termed by the title of client-centred therapy, which he later called person-centred therapy. And scientists proved back then that a monkey who was starved of love regressed a lot quicker than a monkey starved of food, Maslows first tier from his Hierarchy it Needs theory.
    I am pleased that science is backing this work after all this time. This theory has been disregarded by the medical profession who make billions from medicine. In fact, cancer can be reduced and maybe obliterated by this marvellous work, but it is blocked by the money-making human race, who seek out external forms to delude them into believing they have the best quality of life.
    My message is that this is no surprise for many of us. This book is not the first written evidence. Eckhart Tolle talks about ego and thought, how we don’t need it, and what’s more it causes the human condition. Eckhart teaches us to wake up to the truth and live heaven on Earth.
    This is not original. But for the sceptics it will help that it is scientific.
    Thanks for allowing comments.

    Karen Bell

    • Susan on January 12, 2021 at 2:31 pm

          Thank you for sharing your thoughts Karen. Jeremy Griffith’s new science of the human condition certainly explains the importance of nurturing or love which those pioneers, and many others such as Jean Leidloff, D.W. Winnicott, Bruno Bettelheim, Roger Fouts, Olive Schreiner and Ashley Montagu which Jeremy recognises and describes at length in ch 8:16C of FREEDOM. As Jeremy explains in THE Interview (Part 3) nurturing or love is what made us human and he mentions the great work of American philosopher John Fiske (who also recognised the significance of nurturing in our development). Jeremy explains that our species once lived cooperatively and lovingly and that we acquired our moral instincts through nurturing—a process he terms ‘love-indoctrination’. He also explains this has been an unbearable truth while we couldn’t explain why we humans became angry, egocentric and alienated and as a result lost the ability to adequately nurture our offspring with unconditional selflessness or love. The great significance of Jeremy’s work is that we can at last explain why we became upset and understand that our selfish and destructive behaviour is the result of a psychosis caused by the clash between our instinct and intellect. With this knowledge we no longer have to deny such confronting truths as the immense importance of nurturing in our lives and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. Yes with this marvellous work of being about to understand the importance of love in our lives we no longer have to live in denial and estrangement of our all loving soul and we can return to psychological and physical health.
          Jeremy is in the process of writing two new Freedom Essays about the genuinely effective therapy and healing that understanding of the human condition now makes possible. These are Essays 63: ‘Pseudo Therapy/Healing’ and 64: ‘Real Therapy/Healing’. Essay 63 will explain there are many approaches that seek to heal and therapise human psychoses but they are all coming from an extremely dishonest and superficial, human-condition-avoiding, pseudo therapising angle, and this does include the work of Eckhart Tolle and many others. (See Freedom Essay 33 for a discussion of Eckhart Tolle’s work and FAQ 6.5 which explains the difference between the WTM and pseudo-idealistic movements). In Essay 64 Jeremy will present the human-condition-confronting, honest, true, genuinely effective therapy/healing that understanding of the human condition now makes possible. As distinguished psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen describes THE Interview as being “the most important interview of all time” because it “is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race…that saves the world”.

  • Sonja on January 10, 2021 at 10:32 pm

    Marvellous! Ive been sharing this knowledge and My teaching about Human language through intuition our heart and People all over our globe wants to talk and connect! Thank YOU for your work! Sonja Ullman

  • Derrick on January 10, 2021 at 11:03 pm

    Fantastic! I am watching to see where does Christian beliefs fit into this.

    • monicak on January 12, 2021 at 2:27 pm

          Hi Derrick, great to have your interest! The human condition is the study of humans’ capacity for acts of both so-called ‘good and evil’. It is the realm of inquiry where science and religion overlap, so in explaining the human condition religion is also explained.
          Religion and God are briefly discussed in this overview presentation of FREEDOM but, in FREEDOM par 327 Jeremy writes: “Ideality (which religions and the truthful, denial-free-thinking, God-confronting-not-avoiding prophets they were founded around represented) and our search for understanding of our non-ideal reality (which science represented—the word ‘science’ literally means ‘knowledge’) have finally been ‘reconciled’”. So with this reconciling understanding of the human condition it at last makes possible to explain and demystify all mythology, including all the parables and stories in the Bible. Jeremy Griffith’s work doesn’t contradict the Bible it simply brings biological understanding to all those pre-scientific concepts. In fact Jeremy considers the Bible to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing all the truth about human life albeit from a pre-science view. He has also written about Christ’s life and its phenomenal importance in humanity’s journey in Freedom Essay 39. Also FAQ 6.2 ‘What is God’ and FAQ 6.3 ‘Does this undermine religion/God’ are most helpful.

  • Jongkyun kim on January 10, 2021 at 11:26 pm

    Very very interesting idea. It seems combing past and now. Idea for future.

  • Andrew Hurley on January 11, 2021 at 12:09 am

    Thank You!

  • Surreal on January 11, 2021 at 12:41 am

    Greed is man’s problem not conciousness

    • WTM Admin on January 11, 2021 at 6:14 pm

      Please see reply to previous comment.

  • H. Duke Otter on January 11, 2021 at 12:54 am

    We learn need, greed and want from parents, teachers and those around us that constantly tell us we are entitled that causes mans problems.

    • WTM Admin on January 11, 2021 at 6:13 pm

      Jeremy Griffith’s work explains that humans’ selfishness and greed isn’t the result of conditioning from our environment. Rather it is the result of a psychosis, caused by the clash between our instinct and intellect (which Video/Freedom Essay 3 further explains). Significantly a psychosis is changeable as it can be healed through understanding—a revelation that can transform the human race!

  • Jeannette on January 11, 2021 at 1:55 am

    True, all true!

  • Hola Watkins on January 11, 2021 at 2:05 am

    I really enjoyed the interview, the narrative was awesome to discovered, however l have read and studied similarities knowledge and knowledge by professor Noah Harari in his book Homo Deus. Nevertheless the concept Jeremy gives is a different perception.
    I will explore the concepts and make better understanding of the book on my books review.
    Currently l am on Harvard university books review members list.
    Hola Hafsat Watkins.

    • Annie on January 13, 2021 at 8:50 pm

      As you say Hola, Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is an awesome narrative and certainly is very different to the work of Prof. Harari who, among other huge dissimilarities, doesn’t recognise our instinctive heritage as being cooperative but rather promotes the savage instincts excuse for our psychological upset that Jeremy discusses in THE Interview. So please continue to explore our work as the more you do the more you will realise just how perceptive Jeremy’s holistic perception is! In fact it introduces an entirely new way of viewing humans so we recommend people take time to re-watch THE Interview a few times, or read its transcript, as it does take some time to absorb. And of course Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM is the book to review and is freely available on our homepage.

  • Louise Gylsen on January 11, 2021 at 2:10 am

    Great education. Thank you.

  • Generoso G.Aguilar, Jr on January 11, 2021 at 2:12 am

    The truth of our existence unveiled to set us free. Free from oppression, chaos, supremacy and separation.

  • Travis William Carlile on January 11, 2021 at 2:15 am

    Hummmm….
    At a loss for words right now..
    Hopeful, hopeful that. mmm. There is so much good stuff in what I have watched.
    Border line over load right now. Hope I tune back in for a review is about all I can say right now. Thank You. 2aT

    • Joy on January 12, 2021 at 4:28 pm

      I so relate to how you’re feeling Travis. When I first came across this 1 I couldn’t believe it was boldly tackling what it was & 2 I was on overload for sure. Yeah keep tuning in as once your brain gets a hold of this it can understand things you’d never think you could. It was a bit of journey for me but its turned my life around and I know it will do the same for others and the world

  • Marie t douville on January 11, 2021 at 2:22 am

    Must read for all

  • Leanne Brinklow on January 11, 2021 at 2:25 am

    Thank you I have been searching this truth my whole life. Living beyond abuse

  • Avis K. on January 11, 2021 at 2:27 am

    Thank you, we do need to learn more of your work and make use of it for the good of humanity.

  • Jay Purcell on January 11, 2021 at 2:40 am

    100% with you on these viewpoints. At last someone makes sense of it all. Million thanks.

  • Etienne Decker on January 13, 2021 at 1:34 am

    I’m sure glad I found this program. Over time & with a little more money, I want more. The entire population needs to examine this. What do you suppose the outcome? To everyone involved, Thank you.

    • Annie on January 13, 2021 at 1:15 pm

      Etienne we are a not-for-profit organisation and make all our publications (including books and videos), subscription to our mailing list and membership freely available on this website—there is no money involved! The outcome of finally being able to understand the human condition is FREEDOM from it! It unravels the core mystery behind human behaviour, thus ending suffering and conflict at its source—and provides the now urgently needed road map for the complete transformation of our lives and world. We suggest you watch Video/Freedom Essay 5 about how this world-saving outcome is possible!

  • Aj on January 13, 2021 at 3:59 am

    Great thoughts and good efforts explaining human condition, but what really explains it better along side with a human purpose to exist is in the Quran

  • Mick Malkemus, MS on January 13, 2021 at 4:25 am

    A wonderful view I plan to examine, utilize, and share on my YouTube channel.

    One part of the science seems flawed, although I’m sure does not interfere with the vital message of the book.
    That gene transmission is a motive for altruistic behavior.
    I have grandchildren through marriage yet have no biological children of my own. Yet I love them as my own and would do anything for them.
    How is that explained by gene theory? It’s not.
    The only explaination is consciousness connecting with consciousness.
    So my love for these children really is altruistic, and it follows that a mother’s love is too. Apart from gene transmission.
    This organization is providing critical information for free. That is how true human cooperation should function. All gratitude for your work and love.

    • Tony M on January 13, 2021 at 11:02 am

          Thank you for your thoughtful feedback Mick. The biology of the human condition is absolutely fascinating and the question you are asking ‘How did we genetically acquire altruistic instincts?’ is one of the great outstanding scientific questions that Jeremy Griffith has solved and what is so brilliant about his ability as a biologist. What you are seeing as a flaw is actually explained in THE Interview it just takes time to think it through.
          As Jeremy says in THE Interview (Part 3) “how we acquired our moral instincts has been one of the greatest mysteries in biology. The primatologist Richard Wrangham described it as ‘A question that has lain unsolved at the core of biology ever since Darwin’. And Darwin himself described it as the ‘one special difficulty’ with his concept of natural selection”. This is because in order to have an instinctive altruistic moral nature, it follows that our distant ape ancestors must have been cooperative and loving, not competitive and aggressive like other animals. But, since altruistic, unconditionally selfless genetic traits are self-eliminating, and therefore seemingly cannot develop in animals, that leaves the question of how could we humans have developed them? As you say ‘How is that explained by gene theory?’ Jeremy explains in THE Interview, and in much greater detail in FREEDOM, the answer was through nurturing or what he terms ‘love-indoctrination’. This is how we acquired our all-loving, moral instincts and why, as you say, the love you have for your children (who aren’t biologically yours) is genuinely altruistic. As Jeremy says at the start of chapter 5 “Our moral instinctive self or soul, the ‘voice’ or expression of which is our conscience, is a truly amazing phenomenon, for it provided the cooperative, unconditionally selfless love that created humanity”!
          You have some fascinating reading before you as understanding love-indoctrination is astonishingly interesting and central to the unique significance of Jeremy’s work. We suggest you watch THE Interview again, then read Freedom Essay 21 and FREEDOM chapter 5 titled ‘The Origin of Humans’ Unconditionally Selfless, Altruistic, Moral Instinctive Self or Soul’, in particular ch 5:4 titled ‘Love-Indoctrination’. You might also like to subscribe to our free mailing list.

  • wayne S on January 13, 2021 at 4:52 am

    Interesting ideas however at 30 min there is the suggestion that formerly in human evolution we lived in a harmonious non-conflict state as we evolved consciousnesses.. I am not convinced that any of the anthropological evidence supports this.. what is the assertion based on.

    • WTM Admin on January 13, 2021 at 3:23 pm

      In Part 3 of this introductory presentation, THE Interview, Jeremy Griffith gives the biological reason for, and some evidence of, our altruistic moral instincts, ‘the voice’ of which within us we recognise when we refer to our conscience. This evidence is presented in greater detail in Freedom Essay 22 (titled ‘Fossil discoveries evidence our nurtured origins’) and in chapter 5 of FREEDOM. Further, as described in par 488 of FREEDOM, the philosopher John Fiske recognised the nurturing origins of our moral nature, which at the time was even ‘considered far more important’ a biological principle than Darwin’s ‘principle of natural selection’. These biological arguments put forward in FREEDOM have received support from some of the most eminent biologists, philosophers and thinkers in the world which you can see in the Commendation section of our homepage.

  • Peter NUTT on January 13, 2021 at 6:51 pm

    Thx

  • Clive Phillips on January 13, 2021 at 8:53 pm

    Read the book, freedom, found it scientific, and the explanation sound enough to be fundamental believable and, the idea that we evolved to be more than brute beasts surviving by Alfa male dominated aggressive genes, that the Golden age of ideals allowed the females to choose more loving traits to become hard wired enough to make it
    To the present, intact to reflect the wayword direction of our violent wariness nature evolving to civilized state
    Now and then, yet the separation of soul and mind are a wall 40 feet thick , the two learning systems of innate
    D.N.A.and the acquiring mind of reasoning can both find peace and renewed direction in gratitude of our long
    History the comfort zone of the woman ground state of love and care and nurture of the others more fixed than
    The head strong often at odds to the even,good in you to find the soul mind kink how fast we can evolve and
    dispell the upset condition within and in general without a timely cure, to a weary world without campus till now.
    Souls and mind

  • Tony on January 13, 2021 at 9:01 pm

    Enthralling

  • Margriet Bloemhof NL on January 13, 2021 at 9:54 pm

    Mr. Griffith’s take on the human essence and development strikes me as both well-founded and inspiring. I will download the book, and may consider assisting in a Dutch translation. Long live our present-day Bonobo-tribe!

    • WTM Admin on January 16, 2021 at 10:20 am

      Thank you for your considered comment Margriet. There is a ‘Download—books/video/audio’ button at the top of this page and all Jeremy Griffith’s books are freely available to download or read online on our homepage. We already have Dutch translations!! Our WTM Amsterdam Centre present HET Interview along with Dutch translations of Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM (VRIJHEID: Het Einde Van De Menselijke Conditie), its summary booklet Transform Your Life (Transformeer Jouw Leven En Red De Wereld) and our key Introductory Videos/Freedom Essays 1 – 4 and 14. As well as these Dutch translations THE Interview and other WTM publications are also available in Afrikaans, French, German and Spanish on our homepage (see below the ‘Main Videos’ the ‘Translations’ button). Given your interest in the bonobos I’m sure you will find Freedom Essay 21 absolutely fascinating!

  • Tony on January 13, 2021 at 9:56 pm

    Enthralling and life changing what a relief i have struggled for long and wow – how blessed am I

  • Randy on January 14, 2021 at 2:26 am

    Will read with great interest. And make comments after.
    Thank you

  • Lynda Chinery on January 14, 2021 at 2:08 pm

    This is the time! We are not going to make changes because we want to feel good. We are in the middle of a pandemic that is making us suffer, and we want to understand the deeper meaning of what is going on here. The pandemic has brought us to a required stand still…………to think and find answers to our very existence and the changes this shift will bring about eventually will bring the human race into a more peaceful loving state. Thank you for sharing such insight backed up with lots of historical evidence of such insight.

    • Tony M on January 14, 2021 at 3:40 pm

      Thank you for your comment and appreciation Lynda. This pandemic is a devastating and anxiety-filled time and the situation is extremely triggering of our underlying universal psychosis so clear thinking is what is needed. This is what is critically important about Jeremy Griffith’s work, it explains that our psychosis or lack of clear thinking is caused by the clash between our instinct and intellect and can be healed through understanding. As Professor Prosen says it brings about “the psychological rehabilitation of the human race”! Thankfully we now have a vaccine for this terrible virus but what is infinitely more precious and needed is a vaccine for the human condition, a cure for it, the answer or deeper meaning of our very existence as you say, and that’s what THE Interview presents.

  • Dinah Morris on January 15, 2021 at 8:04 am

    Need the down to Earth Aussie Bloke Energy today.
    GOD BLESS US ALL>
    One Family Trusting in the LOVE from ABOVE!

    • Genevieve on January 15, 2021 at 10:29 am

      Absolutely Dinah! Jeremy’s ability to explain our deeply upset state brings such calm and compassionate energy to our beings. With our fundamental goodness biologically established and the awesome meaning and power of finally being aligned with the truth of integrative meaning (what we can now understand we have personified as ‘God’—see FAQ 6.2) we can truly begin to heal and come together as one. As Jeremy writes so beautifully in FREEDOM par 1259: “We can all break out of our chrysalis, our human-condition-afflicted straitjacket, where we have been constrained, letting the wings of our great potential unfold in the sunshine of relieving understanding to reveal the fabulously beautiful creatures we really are.”

  • Louis Solano on January 15, 2021 at 12:11 pm

    Wow your claim that Adam and Eve were actually “the good guys” isn’t a new theory at all. Many many people throughout history both in the distant pass and not so long ago past have made this very claim. This is a very contraversial claim. This is a challenge to those whom take the Bible as literal. It flies in face of what God himself proclaimed in the text. What Im getting at in a nut shell is that this can be seen as a blasphemy. Another person or persons trying to twist and misinterpret the Word of God. Im not claiming myself this personally. Im just pointing out that if this is what your whole ” Solution” to mankind’s condition rests upon, what your angular rock is then Sir then it is not goung yo be supported by a great number of people of faith. The world population overwhelmingly believe in a ultimate God, somewhere in the vicinity of 95% overall. Of that 95% I’m guessing a great many have the Bible as their very Guide their very connection to God. It is his inspired word. This what you are claiming is going to be seen as a blasphemy. Just some food for thought.

    • WTM Admin on February 3, 2021 at 1:51 pm

      Hello Louis, thank you for your interest in Jeremy Griffith’s work. With regard to the questions that you raise we recommend reading WTM FAQ 6.3 which explains that the great founding prophets of religion actually looked forward to the arrival of the reconciling understanding of the human condition — which means supporters of religion shouldn’t see Jeremy’s scientific demystification of religious teachings as blasphemy, but as religious fulfillment! The full title of FAQ 6.3 summarises the various questions that are addressed in this FAQ: Aren’t all Griffith’s demystifications of religious teachings going to be seen by supporters of religion as blasphemy? / Does understanding of the human condition undermine a faith in religion or God? / How can you reconcile the explanation of the human condition that defends the upset state with religious teachings that condemn upset?

  • Ingrid Van DyckT on January 16, 2021 at 7:28 am

    THANK YOU!

  • Gehan on January 17, 2021 at 4:45 pm

    This is simply amazing

  • David BOLT on January 18, 2021 at 5:01 am

    What’s great about your explanation is it does not require more than school level knowledge to understand or verify. It also does not justify an existing dogma, and nor do you have any obvious ulterior agenda such as self enrichment. Forgive me my scepticism, but most posts of this kind inevitably seek to make money.
    My life experience has led me to conclude no adult alive today is psychologically healthy, and what you say explains why. It gives hope that our ingenuity can help us to continue to evolve into a species that will benefit all life and not be its ultimate destroyer, as it appears we will be as it is. I fear humans reaching for the stars, exporting our curruption like a virus, having half destroyed our own planet, before setting ourselves straight. I also fear the advocated stagnation of the green agenda that appears to be the only alternative to wreckless resource consumption. To achieve a sustainable existence in which humans can continue to develop socially, the culturally and scientifically requires true psychological insight and a world-wide epiphany as profound as you have outlined. If biologically speaking this selfishness then I’m all for it. Kudos to you.

    • WTM Admin on January 18, 2021 at 7:37 pm

      Thanks for your wonderful comment David. The WTM is a not-for-profit organisation and all our publications, subscription and membership are freely available on this website—there is no money involved! People’s initial scepticism is warranted as FAQ 1.9 explains. The great significance of this scientific breakthrough is we can understand our selfishness is not instinctive but rather a result of a psychoses which is healed with understanding. We legitimately return to our natural selfless instincts and that is what drives this profound transformation of ourselves and the world, summarised in FAQ 1.4.

  • Mario on January 18, 2021 at 5:16 am

    Simple and powerful explanation of the human condition, and why we are the way we are. This new science is as far as I can oversee right now not easy falsifiable, and on top of that it complies to Occam’s Razor.

    • Tom on January 22, 2021 at 4:21 am

      Next to Occam’s Razor, science requires an unambiguous and literal use of language, the amount of metaphorical speech indicates we are not dealing with science here already.

      Science also requires falsifyable hypotheses. If it can’t be falsified it isn’t even a workable hypothesis. From a scientific point of view, these are merely speculations/interpretations that may have the potential to become falsifyable hypotheses. Only once that potential has been fullfilled can we talk about science, but even then we are merely in the stage of putting the hypothesis to the test, and then we should speak of it as something being scientifically reasearched, which still is way too early for a scientific conclusion.
      The man doesn’t strike me as an idiot, but rather seems so enthiousiastic about his idea that he overstates his claim and/or forgets to inform us about his scientific research (as it’s still possible that he actually has scientific work to back up his claims, he just didn’t present any)

      • WTM Admin on February 3, 2021 at 12:38 pm

            Dear Tom, we greatly appreciate your interest in Jeremy Griffith’s treatise on the human condition. As Jeremy explains in chapters 2:4 and 2:12 of FREEDOM, human-condition-avoiding, mechanistic, reductionist, deductive science is an extremely limited and compromised form of science. As Templeton Prize-winning biologist Charles Birch, who was Jeremy’s professor of biology at Sydney University, said, “[mechanistic] science can’t deal with subjectivity [the issue of our psychologically distressed condition]…​what we were all taught in universities is pretty much a dead end” and “Biology has not made any real advance since Darwin”. Indeed, mechanistic science is now so farcically dishonest and discredited in the public’s mind that many people have lost interest in it to the point of dismissing it as of no real use to us in terms of being able to understand and manage our behaviour! Freedom Essay/​Video 14 makes this discreditation very clear.
            Thankfully mechanistic science can now be replaced by human-condition-confronting-and-solving, truthful, holistic, inductive science—but of course the established, entrenched, traditional mechanistic scientific paradigm resists this massive paradigm shift. It does this by ignoring the new synthesis, as well as using such outrageously dishonest and irresponsible claims as ‘the new synthesis presents no new data’, is an ‘untestable’ and ‘non-falsifiable’ hypothesis, and is therefore not even science! As is explained in FAQ 1.10, these accusations are transparently false and nothing more than the dying tremors of an old, extremely flawed form of dishonest science that has lived way past its used by date and is rapidly taking humanity to extinction!
            It really is at the 11th hour that the often highly intellectualised, sophisticated-in-the-art-of-denial, pretentious, makes-it-seem-like-unreachable-knowledge-for-the-average-person, scientific presentations from the ivory towers of human-condition-avoiding academia are at last replaced by truthful, sensible, fully accountable, relatively simple and straightforward, soul-ualised not intellect-ualised scientific presentations, which is what FREEDOM provides for the human race.
            As to the veracity of Jeremy’s biological treatise, our website also contains many endorsements from eminent scientists, such as Professor Scott Churchill, the then Chair of the Psychology Department at the University of Dallas, writing that “I have recommended his [Griffith’s] more recent work to my students precisely for his razor-sharp clarifications of positions of contemporary authors like Edward O. Wilson, Richard Dawkins, and Robert Wright. Griffith manages to summarize book-length expositions of these oftentimes obtuse and varying perspectives on human evolution with clarity and brilliance” (Expert Report, 2007).

  • Shirley McClendon on January 18, 2021 at 6:42 am

    Thank you kindly for the information God bless 🙏

  • Chris Ramage on January 18, 2021 at 10:14 am

    Wow

  • Heidi Banerjee on January 18, 2021 at 9:00 pm

    After so much darkness in the last century that has continued to 2021, it is a great relief to find out that human life can return to its source and start renaissance.
    I am delighted to have come across this book which opens doors to a new understanding, thus starting recreation of our human condition.

  • Yuusuf on January 19, 2021 at 1:41 am

    This is a logical and positive idea. It seems the professor proves with reason that: Egocentric Verses Tranquility soul that knows itself.

  • Katrina Graham on January 19, 2021 at 8:29 am

    Amen. Beautifully explained. Something to look forward too. A world free from greed. Wow

  • Sherry Meacham on January 20, 2021 at 1:56 pm

    Now Is the time to let people know everything possible about our minds. The brain can do so many things. Things we are not aware of. Thank you so much for sharing.

  • Delores Walvatne on January 24, 2021 at 2:21 pm

    Truly an amazing revelation that can change the world!

  • Marie-Claire Pegoff on January 24, 2021 at 8:27 pm

    Est-ce possible d’avoir la traduction en français ? Merci. [Is it possible to have the translation in French? Thank you.]

    • WTM Admin on January 25, 2021 at 10:57 am

      Yes THE Interview is available in French (here) and it is also available in Afrikaans, Dutch, German and Spanish! These and other translated WTM publications are available on our homepage (below ‘Main Videos’ there is a ‘Translations’ button). We also have many WTM Centres all around the world, including WTM Nice in France!

  • Christine Sebi on January 24, 2021 at 8:28 pm

    Very good and thank you

  • Noel Mcmahon on January 24, 2021 at 9:56 pm

    Excellent read

  • David on January 25, 2021 at 1:57 am

    Yes send me the book.

    • WTM Admin on January 25, 2021 at 11:16 am

      Jeremy Griffith’s key books are freely available on our homepage here. You can read online or download them (no email required). You can download the free Kindle versions or purchase hard copies from Amazon. Hard copies are also available at other good bookstores.

      • Mark on January 26, 2021 at 10:28 am

        I have always questioned ‘Why can’t we all just get along, on a daily basis’ because in my view, we are all born with basic fundamentals of what a good human is love, and happiness, we know what hurts each other in the beginning…and yet the powers in charge deem it necessary to continue, I hope that this explanation reaches at least one of them…THANK YOU so much, I’m off to get the book now

  • Andrea on January 25, 2021 at 5:11 am

    This is profoundly life-changing information, supported by clear and uncompromised thinking. Let us bring it to everyone who can at all hear it, let us support everyone who does take in the information, we will need each other to fully understand and embrace the implications. May the wisdom and maturity emerging now help repair the trauma and destruction brought about by our confusion and upset. May we find ways to translate these reconciling insights into a great turning for humankind. Thank you for your passion and generosity to Jeremy Griffith and everyone at the WTM.

  • Kenny on January 25, 2021 at 5:52 am

    Looking forward to reading this

  • Toró Ildikó on January 25, 2021 at 7:22 pm

    I always felt that my true self is love, unconditioned love. Today i can realise it and my mission from this moment is to spread it.
    Thank you!

  • Mary Cousins on January 25, 2021 at 10:50 pm

    Wonderful. I’ve always felt this, and to have it explained is truly enlightening.

  • Ilona Leibfried on January 25, 2021 at 10:58 pm

    This is great relief at last! Thank you for putting it into biological language. Now I can transport my smiling and loving each and everybody on a broad scientific basis. You are magnificent! Feel cuddled and gratefully appreciated 🥰🙏👏🏼🤗

  • James on January 26, 2021 at 1:28 am

    Brilliant, logical, holistic, understandable, relieving, exciting, thrilling and healing- thank you WTM!

  • John O Fields on January 26, 2021 at 2:40 am

    Wish this was taught in church

  • Rokhshana Daudi on January 26, 2021 at 1:00 pm

    Dear all, I have just started to listen to videos on the subject and drawn to go deeper and understand it well; because, English is my second language, but I borrow every dictionary, every way to understand it well.

    • WTM Admin on January 26, 2021 at 2:05 pm

      All our translations of THE Interview and other WTM publications are on our homepage (below ‘Main Videos’ see ‘Translations’ button). We also have many WTM Centres all around the world which you can see here.

  • Brash Brackenfield on January 26, 2021 at 2:14 pm

    ‘We must heal the pain in our brain and become sane again.’ Wonderful words I 100% agree.

  • Kimberly Tarkinton Gabel on January 26, 2021 at 3:05 pm

    I am so looking forward to watching the rest of this and going to get the book! Eager to share!

  • Robin on January 26, 2021 at 5:05 pm

    Thank you Jeremy. Whilst I haven’t got full understanding of this yet I am excited to see there is a way out of my our confused minds. I am certainly going to give this opportunity a good and fair go. Again thank you for your wonderful time and efforts in coming to this conclusion RD Aus.

  • Wendy Bishop on January 26, 2021 at 5:23 pm

    Great work. All makes sense.

  • bob berardi on January 27, 2021 at 12:09 am

    This information rings true and dovetails with so much that I have learned on my journey thank you for this enlightenment

  • Grace B on January 27, 2021 at 4:30 am

    Something serenely sacred about the simplicity of this. could only take tiny drips at first…and when i let go, there is an obvious “of-course-ness” that i can not unsee. Thank you.

  • Jim Kelly on January 27, 2021 at 8:55 am

    Many thanks, makes sense to me. I will definitely study on this.

    • David Harper on January 27, 2021 at 11:42 am

      It sounds almost like God’s words of life increation by science they are finding now that science and the word of God are not in disagreement there is correlation between both

  • Lani on January 27, 2021 at 10:20 am

    I have always been interested in how to understand human behavior and what is the correct way to go about certain instances.

  • DENISE BONDS on January 28, 2021 at 12:21 am

    Simply amazing… and so simple… LOVE IS THE KEY.

  • YVONNE BLANTON-HADDRELL on January 28, 2021 at 1:35 am

    Love to know this marvellous info. Prayers and blessings. Thoughtfully Yvonne

  • Kymber Wilton on January 28, 2021 at 10:36 am

    i can’t wait to learn more!

  • George on January 28, 2021 at 3:34 pm

    A constant battle. The anger at humankinds ruthless pursuit in materialism and the damage it does to the planet and each other. The war to be good which religions can’t acknowledge divides free thought and diminishes respect. What lovely Truth this person conveys.

  • Barry on January 28, 2021 at 6:42 pm

    Thank you very empowering.

  • Terry Anderson on January 28, 2021 at 10:03 pm

    Fear of death and its derivative, the survival instincts drive most of the population.

  • Johanna on January 29, 2021 at 2:38 am

    Thank you, so good to hear to release easily the old.

  • Martin on January 29, 2021 at 3:52 am

    Really enjoyed the interview and couldn’t disagree with any of it. Interestingly such thinking is breaking into contemporary progressive Christian circles among people who are questioning the 16th century theology we have inherited and that up to now has remained largely unquestioned in the mainstream. It’s good to know that not all believers are dogmatists and that many are open to the idea that theology can and should evolve and keep pace with evolving human consciousness and scientific discovery. Your presentation explains so much about the human condition and human behavior. However does it not still leave the huge existential ‘why’ question? Why are we here? It also doesn’t for me address the subject of death which is surely a major part of the human condition. Maybe we should be satisfied with the few short years we get but the angst, fear, pain and basic disappointment that death brings would suggest that for most people, having tasted life they don’t want it to end. That being the case, maybe an element of faith is still required until such times as science can prove the continuation of consciousness beyond bodily death. It is encouraging to see that consciousness and it’s evolution seems to be growing area of academic study. I suspect the findings will combine with your important insights to bring us closer to the wholeness we all desire.

    • WTM Admin on January 29, 2021 at 10:37 am

      You can read about the Integrative Meaning of existence (‘the meaning of life’) in our FAQ 6.2. With regard to our fear of death, the more you absorb this information the more you realise that it is driven by our insecurity about our self-worth (which arises from the human condition). You might also be interested to read Jeremy’s explanation and demystification of our need to believe in a physical ‘afterlife’ in par. 840 of FREEDOM, and in more detail in this section of his best-selling 2003 book A Species In Denial.

  • Maria Carrera on January 29, 2021 at 8:02 am

    Simply brilliant. As said in scientific world, the truth is commonly in the most simple explanation. But this is not always so evident to our eyes. Sincerely thanks, I have no words to describe what it means to me having the privilege of receiving these “precious stones” of knowledge.

  • Harry Drent (the Netherlands) on January 29, 2021 at 9:34 am

    Ik ben al geruime tijd bezig met onwken, verlichting cq wakker worden. Inmiddels ben ik niet meer op zoek naar realiseerde mij dat het gaat om herinneren wie wij zijn in de essentie. En dat de mens weer in simbiose moet leven met de ecologische waarden van de aarde. En deze zienswijze verklaard mijn intuïtie. So thank you! [I have been working on unwinding, enlightenment and awakening for quite some time. By now I am no longer looking for realization that it is about remembering who we are in essence. And that man must live again in symbiosis with the ecological values of the earth. And this view explained my intuition. So thank you!]

  • Josephine Sheridan on January 29, 2021 at 11:12 am

    Wonderful Thank-you.!!..

  • Cornell J Bennett on January 29, 2021 at 12:59 pm

    Great

  • Miriam on January 29, 2021 at 6:26 pm

    Yes of course- our birthright.
    We are damaged tho by our culture..and what ‘trauma’ is handed down to us via parents and events…and the people around who are damaged even more.
    Knowing is one thing…how do you propose to change eg those in our societies who make rules, neglect to make others, etc etc for personal gain. ..HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO GET THOSE WITH INFLUENCE TO ACT IN THE WAY YOU DESCRIBE..?

    • WTM Admin on February 1, 2021 at 1:25 pm

          Jeremy Griffith’s work addresses the source of our universal psychosis which is creating our culture and compounding trauma that each new generation is born into. It explains and addresses the cause and significantly a psychosis can be healed with understanding so we can move on to a whole new human-condition-reconciled, transformed world.
          While this is the universal solution to all the problems we face we do have to break through to the bastions of power in the world. As with any new scientific breakthrough in history, it will take time for people to realise that this is what it says it is, but as support and momentum continues to build, the selfless love and energy it generates will solve our problems very quickly. Instead of being focused on power, fame, fortune and glory, all our energies will be freed to truly work together on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering in the world, see our FAQs 1.4 – 1.6 about how this transformation works. Also, our homepage presents the significant support Jeremy Griffith’s treatise already has from thought leaders around the world.

  • Jerry capps on January 29, 2021 at 9:12 pm

    This is a superb work

  • Sheri klecan on January 30, 2021 at 12:53 am

    So relieving to hear there is a solution to our suffering!

  • Katrina Hill on January 30, 2021 at 1:45 am

    Thankyou for your guidance and teachings

  • Mark Fennell on January 30, 2021 at 4:11 pm

    It sounds as though our pre fall from grace ancestors were so endeared of the earth that they could hardly be brought to kill and eat anything.

  • Lenora Webb on January 30, 2021 at 6:09 pm

    From my earliest years of wondering I have always felt that man started good and kind and loving. But thinking about things, that happen day to day, too much filled us with insecurities that created the negative side of us.

    • WTM Admin on February 1, 2021 at 1:16 pm

      Jeremy Griffith explains that the source of all our insecurities is the battle between instinct and intellect; this is what created our negative or dark side. See more in Video/Freedom Essay 3.

  • Dr Dev Anand on January 31, 2021 at 5:45 am

    Very good

  • Marc Gerstner on January 31, 2021 at 6:23 am

    I agree with you, all the work you put in makes sense, great work

  • Eric Teokotai on January 31, 2021 at 7:32 am

    I have been anguishing over why there is so much greed, war, poverty in a world of plenty. Why do humans and particularly its so-called leaders venture on a path to destruction under the delusion that it is for the best. This information has been like an epiphany. I’m so so grateful.

  • Nehbi on January 31, 2021 at 8:04 am

    This is fascinating knowledge. Thank you!

  • Julie Kellogg on January 31, 2021 at 8:08 am

    Very interesting, will listen.

  • Verónica Leija Vázquez on January 31, 2021 at 9:55 am

    Amazing, it gives hope for the human race, our planet and everything in it

  • German E. Valderrama on January 31, 2021 at 4:06 pm

    We are living critical times….The future is uncertain….We have to change our behavior, but this is a titanic labor, this knowledge is an excellent tool to start.

    • WTM Admin on February 1, 2021 at 1:42 pm

      Explanation of the human condition presents a massive paradigm shift in our thinking but the more you absorb it the more you realise that this understanding is actually the key to saving the world. Our FAQs 1.4 – 1.6 and chapter 9:9 of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM explain just how quickly this knowledge can transform the world.

  • Bryn Stuart Jones on February 1, 2021 at 5:56 am

    I think I’ll read the book

  • Danile Granato on February 1, 2021 at 8:17 am

    mind blowing… could i please have freedom book!

    • Annie on February 1, 2021 at 1:19 pm

      Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition is freely available on our homepage here along with his other key books. You can read them online or download them (no email required). You can also download the free Kindle versions or purchase hard copies from Amazon. Hard copies are also available at other good bookstores.

    • Nancy webb on February 2, 2021 at 12:55 am

      Interesting I would like to be part of the movement

    • Anthony on February 2, 2021 at 2:24 am

      Wow this is so good to heal the world. Amazing

  • Chappie on February 1, 2021 at 10:32 am

    Yes, please. I like to have a look in that book you nicely introduced. Lets have a look shall we mister Australia human biology professor. Where you put a focus on.
    Greetings from Tilburg.
    Charles

  • Pam L Kesser on February 1, 2021 at 9:49 pm

    Interested in learning more. I want to join in on the ‘Raising the Human Condition’ Globally.

  • Christian Midden on February 1, 2021 at 10:19 pm

    Good work. Clear!!

  • Reg Wessels on February 1, 2021 at 10:59 pm

    Yep – no more “My way, or the highway!”

  • Guadalupe Lai Sang on February 1, 2021 at 11:26 pm

    I am interested to know more about how behaviors shape us.

  • Veronna Pomeroy on February 2, 2021 at 12:02 am

    Interesting. I am curious and excited to read the book!!
    Greetings from Stockholm, Sweden
    Veronna

  • Renny on February 2, 2021 at 2:41 am

    Grateful for this contribution. I have been holding energetic space for decades waiting for the transition.

  • Jane Turnbull O'Connor on February 2, 2021 at 4:12 am

    A very interesting and informative interview, will have to listen again to understand some of what is said, but truly inspiring.

  • Rosemary Shakespeare on February 2, 2021 at 9:31 am

    An amazing interview. I particularly appreciate that the interviewer, Craig, sums up what has been said very succinctly. Also he is clearly putting the interviewee first and doesn’t try to give any of his own opinions, as so many interviewers do.

  • Alex A on February 2, 2021 at 12:52 pm

    Life transforming interview! This information on the human condition is no doubt going to change the world! Fantastic interview.

  • Joe on February 2, 2021 at 2:38 pm

    Thank you for the hope.

  • Jacqueline on February 2, 2021 at 10:06 pm

    Beautiful!! Finally we realize who we really are!! And what this journey was about! Thank you ❤️

  • Stella on February 3, 2021 at 12:06 am

    Finally! I’ve been waiting for this half of my life! Thank you.

  • Rikki Jaffar Prince on February 3, 2021 at 5:24 am

    Particularly interested in the Spanish translation of FREEDOM.

    • WTM Admin on February 3, 2021 at 10:49 am

      We can’t wait for FREEDOM to be made available for the Spanish speaking world! Until then THE Interview and our key Introductory Video/Freedom Essay 1 are available in Spanish! You can access all our translations on our homepage (under ‘Main Videos’ there is a ‘Translations’ button) or click here. In terms of other Spanish translations the founder of WTM Colombia, Carlos Cruz Blanco, presents his website in Spanish, including his welcome video and lots of other information about the WTM.

  • Nora Kamberi on February 3, 2021 at 5:37 am

    I would like to know about this book, hope it’s not that expensive

    • WTM Admin on February 3, 2021 at 10:42 am

      Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition, its summary Transform Your Life And Save The World and THE Interview, are freely available on our homepage here. You can read them online or download them (no email required) and Transform Your Life is also available as an audio book! You can download the free Kindle versions or purchase hard copies from Amazon. Hard copies are also available at other good bookstores.

  • Jesus on February 3, 2021 at 12:00 pm

    Awesome finally humanitarian awareness – the awareness of evolution not devolution!

  • Michael Boznianin on February 3, 2021 at 2:04 pm

    This is so honest and conclusive. I find myself having to work through traumatized inhibiting factors that have been accumulated, just to proceed with this concept. Very deep yet very obvious.

  • Bal Sammy (london) on February 3, 2021 at 9:45 pm

    This is a Frank Factual and First hand autopsy of the natural or inborn stimulus which create the behaviour of human beings.
    This lecture has answered my question about human behaviour. We have to learn to know and to accept our behaviour comes within us.

  • Max on February 4, 2021 at 9:14 am

    ♥️♥️♥️👍

  • Kazz on February 4, 2021 at 8:58 pm

    Enlightenment! In a unique reframe of existing theories. This is a work of art and an analogy to wake people up to higher consciousness past fear back to love! From the perspective of biology! Though we cant rewind time and see what first occurred for humans. Seems similar to Adam and Eve story but explained differently! Great educator, bit sensationalized. See good intentions.

  • M. Ann Waddicor on February 5, 2021 at 12:58 am

    Oh wow, all my life I have wondered, and at school the teachers did not inspire, me, only the few. I have sensed this world that Jeremy Griffith’s describes, feeling in many situations, not able to express myself in speech, shy, that my idea of this world was over simple and that I was not so hyper intelligent as other people, writing especially about all nature, in letters to my parents all my life, until they died.
    Then suddenly I began to put the letters into poetic form, forcing my own mind to precis the words to express the essence of my thoughts in a more succinct manner. This brought out my ideas in a clearer way to myself. It was so exciting that I wrote poems by day and in the middle of the night, feverishly scribbling them down on paper. Totally excited.
    Then this interview that was so exciting that it tore my hat off and let my brain fly into the sky of my mind, with a joyful recognition of parallel thoughts that had lain latent in my brain, just as there was an archive of words and thoughts lying waiting in my mind to explode into the world and expound my own theories of existence, never having felt satisfied with the norms of the day.
    The spice of life came, as if a storm had blown away all the cobwebs of traditional religious cloaked dogmas and doctrines that just didn’t satisfy me in my lifestyle. Oh how thankful that I have lived through treatments and heaven knows what, with cancer etc, and am still alive to hear such ideas of life at eighty years young, I feel like a student in my twenties, fired with enthusiasm for more thoughts around this subject, the most exciting moment in my life, thank you. M. Ann Waddicor.

  • Margaret ... Isle of Man on February 5, 2021 at 3:26 am

    Fascinating & very easy too understand… thank you Gents.

  • Christine M. England on February 5, 2021 at 10:33 am

    I have been waiting for this my whole life. I now understand why I have struggled with ‘being’. Not any more. Thank you.

  • Mariama Tamba on February 5, 2021 at 3:41 pm

    Very nice and easy to comprehend. I love it

  • Marie M on February 5, 2021 at 6:52 pm

    This has really resonated with me, and gives me hope for the future… Thankyou for your wonderful, enlightening work.

  • Lawson C Collins on February 5, 2021 at 7:40 pm

    Very informative we have to rid ourselves of HUMAN NATURE and to put back GODLY nature

  • David on February 5, 2021 at 10:42 pm

    Thank you.

  • Marianne on February 6, 2021 at 12:31 am

    I agree with you.

  • Sultana badrummonir on February 6, 2021 at 12:53 am

    Really it’s an excellent and amazing video. Thanks

  • Mark on February 6, 2021 at 1:33 am

    Hmmm.. Eckhart Tolle.

    • WTM Admin on February 8, 2021 at 2:38 pm

      Jeremy Griffith’s work is the complete opposite to what Eckhart Tolle presents. Jeremy is currently writing two new Freedom Essays about the genuinely effective therapy and healing that understanding of the human condition now makes possible. These are Essays 63: ‘Pseudo Therapy/Healing’ and 64: ‘Real Therapy/Healing’. Essay 63 will explain there are many approaches that seek to heal and therapise human psychoses but they are all coming from an extremely dishonest and superficial, human-condition-avoiding, pseudo therapising angle, and this does include the work of Eckhart Tolle and many others. (See Freedom Essay 33 for a discussion of Tolle’s work; and also Part 4 of THE Interview and FAQ 6.5 which explain the difference between the WTM and pseudo-idealistic movements). In Essay 64 Jeremy will present the human-condition-confronting, honest, true, genuinely effective therapy/healing that understanding of the human condition now makes possible. As distinguished psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen describes THE Interview as being “the most important interview of all time” because it “is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race…that saves the world”.

  • jean Claude jadot on February 7, 2021 at 12:38 am

    Inspiré et consistant. Bravo. [Inspired and consistent. Well done.]

  • Lisa Figge on February 7, 2021 at 3:16 am

    Wonderful news! Thank you for sharing your earth saving research. Beautiful!

  • Joe Torik on February 7, 2021 at 6:02 am

    At last I have found what I’ve been looking for all my life. Something was missing until now There is an answer for that thing I couldn’t even articulate. 🙏🏼🐝🦉♥️

  • Chrissie on February 7, 2021 at 7:22 pm

    A breath of fresh air. Finally, it all makes sense. Easy to understand and straight to the point. My conscious thoughts battling with my instincts, wow! Completely understood.

  • Eileen on February 7, 2021 at 9:34 pm

    I am interested in what you are offering my life

  • Frances butler. CAULFIELD on February 8, 2021 at 2:11 am

    Brilliant. Nurture nature something our Greatgran taught her Grandaughters who in turn taught plus 17kids between them. Wise words I remembered throughout my life now. I share them with my Grankids from 6 Generations back.

  • John on February 8, 2021 at 4:35 am

    But what about the origin of Sin. How do you explain the entrance of evil into our world? If there is no Sin, then we do not need a Saviour. The present human condition is because of rebellion against his Creator.
    The answer to all this can be found in the Bible. Please read 2 Thessalonians chapter 2. Thank you.

    • WTM Admin on February 8, 2021 at 2:48 pm

      Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition reconciles science and religion by bringing biological understanding to pre-scientific concepts, with ‘sin’ the religious term historically used to describe the darker, destructive aspects of our non-ideal human state or condition. In terms of Christianity and Christ, Jeremy considers the Bible to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing all the truth about human life albeit from that pre-science view, and he has written about Christ’s life and its phenomenal importance in humanity’s journey in Freedom Essay 39. Our FAQs about religion are also helpful.

  • sam on February 8, 2021 at 8:59 am

    very good

  • GEORGE ADU on February 8, 2021 at 10:35 am

    thank you so much

  • Eva T on February 8, 2021 at 11:39 am

    Really good

  • Ragnvald. Ljungh on February 8, 2021 at 3:15 pm

    Han tog upp alt som är av vikt det vi alla borde ta åt oss av. Alt hänger ju på hur vi lever. Familjen först det andra sedan den så viktiga vaxinationen. [He brought up everything that is important that we should all deal with. It all depends on how we live. The family first the second then the so important vaccination. (Translated from Swedish.)]

    • WTM Admin on February 9, 2021 at 2:37 pm

      Thank you for your thoughtful comment, Ragnvald. Yes, as Jeremy Griffith says in THE Interview, “a vaccine for this terrible virus would be good, but infinitely more precious and needed is a vaccine for the human condition, a cure for it, and that’s what’s just been presented”. Solve the human condition and the power of cooperative selflessness that liberates will clean up all the overwhelming problems that are burdening our world, and very quickly, because we will be able to effectively deal with challenges like pandemics as a collective by prioritising the needs of the greater whole.

  • Christa Tiltmann on February 8, 2021 at 4:07 pm

    Would like to read the book

    • WTM Admin on February 8, 2021 at 4:57 pm

      Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition, its summary Transform Your Life And Save The World and THE Interview, are freely available on our homepage here. You can read them online or download them (no email required) and Transform Your Life is also available as an audio book! You can download the free Kindle versions or purchase hard copies from Amazon. Hard copies are also available at other good bookstores.

  • VITTORIO GARGIULO on February 9, 2021 at 3:46 am

    Create an area where we can re-found our Humanity, is a possibility to be connect with all people! Thank You Mr. Griffith!

    • Carol Huggins on February 9, 2021 at 9:46 am

      I really appreciate this information because it answers my questions more than I could have asked for. I’m immediately going to share this with my family and friends. We’ve all been looking for the answers. Thank you

  • Lee t on February 9, 2021 at 6:51 am

    Informative

  • Judith Gimblett Aust. on February 9, 2021 at 1:41 pm

    Thank you for taking the time to do this interview. I intend to listen to it more than once.

  • Jason A. Mazzulla on February 9, 2021 at 2:50 pm

    I walk around feeling this way. I’m at odds with almost everything I do.

  • Kahsay assfaw on February 11, 2021 at 6:04 am

    Wonderful!! Program

  • Tom Greenfield on February 11, 2021 at 11:39 am

    I think there is an element of truth (not totally) and there is a lot to learn, It was worth my time and probably yours!!!

  • Paul Larke on February 11, 2021 at 10:35 pm

    How on earth do you measure upset?

    • WTM Admin on February 12, 2021 at 3:27 pm

      The graph that appears towards the end of Part 2 of THE Interview charts the progression of upset from no psychosis to ‘terminal levels of psychosis’ and obviously all grades in between.

  • Stephan De Leenheer on February 12, 2021 at 6:05 am

    Thank you Mr Griffith for this beautiful insight. I had emotional human suffering the whole of my live until now. Your explanation is clear with the story of Adam and Eve and the reference to Plato, and also with the drawings.

  • Michael Quinn on February 13, 2021 at 12:20 am

    I am with you in intention and in spirit. The enlightenment you are bringing to the world is so needed at this time. How can I be of help?

    • TonyM on February 13, 2021 at 12:17 pm

      It is wonderful to learn of your enthusiasm for our work! We have a helpful guide on our website for people who want to help and join the WTM which you can see here. We encourage people to subscribe to our mailing list, watch our key introductory material including THE Interview (which you have done), read FREEDOM, become a member and interact with us. We have a thriving WTM Community as you can see from our over 45 WTM Centres around the world and we have regular webinars and meetings to discuss this incredible transformation which you can learn all about on our WTM Community page. You may also be interested in joining our Facebook Community Group.

  • Diana on February 13, 2021 at 4:39 am

    This explanation is so elegant. Also to me this fits with the historical evidence found by archeologist Marija Gimbutas on the so called ‘Vinca’ culture or the ‘Old European’ culture in a few regions in the Balkans and Ukraine. A culture with no weapons found within extensive civilisation dating back to more then 5000 years b.c. (older then Sumerian culture). Very interesting but also almost ignored by mainstream. Not for one moment I believe we are an aggressive animal by nature. I think we should maybe look more to Buddhism and old Indian religions for wisdom on the science of consciousness.

    • WTM Admin on February 15, 2021 at 1:40 pm

      Thank you for your comment, Diana. We did want to clarify that while Buddhism and other religions contain all manner of truths about human life, it is all from a pre-scientific view. Solving the human condition required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough that Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. Also you might find helpful our FAQ 5.4 on consciousness, and FAQ 1.14 on why these ideas aren’t mainstream yet.

  • Carl Strutisnki on February 13, 2021 at 8:48 am

    I appreciate your ideas, Prof. Griffith. However, I feel that your solution needs to be further developed. I may note that animals are also intelligent and have self awareness, though on a low level. However, they do not show, as I inferred from your presentation, the intellect-instinct opposition. And then, humans need a very long time to bring up their brood – so the expectation to transmit the “altruistic gene” should be far greater than for bonobos, for example.

    • WTM Admin on February 15, 2021 at 1:43 pm

      Jeremy Griffith explains that while other animals have various levels of ‘awareness’, none can consciously manage events like humans can, which means they are not yet in a position to challenge their instincts for control of their lives (see FAQ 5.4 on ‘What is consciousness? / Why is it that humans became conscious while other animals haven’t? / How did consciousness emerge in humans?’). Read more about the love-indoctrination process and how altruism became instinctive in our forebears (a process the bonobos are still completing) in chapter 5 of FREEDOM.

  • Anya on February 13, 2021 at 2:29 pm

    Thx

  • Denise Richards on February 14, 2021 at 7:15 pm

    So refreshing and enlightening, gave me hope for us humans.

  • Ram Kunjayah on February 15, 2021 at 8:35 am

    Excellent

  • brian carrington on February 15, 2021 at 1:07 pm

    Just been listening to Jeremy’s Freedom Essay 14. The more I listen the more I realise how little I know, my education was basic to say the least, but I do know the truth when I hear it, I need to read the book, rant over, thank you to everyone and hopefully I will get there,😀

  • John Kevin Bannon on February 15, 2021 at 3:15 pm

    Always known that love is the answer. There is hope and happiness out there for everyone, we just need love and understanding to embrace it and find our true path, our best path, our only path. Thank you.❤️

  • Dr. Anita Chioke on February 15, 2021 at 4:43 pm

    I am looking forward to the day that racism will be perpetually eliminated. And also to stop stronger nations from attacking smaller nations. I am truly looking forward to this remarkable breakthrough.

    • TonyM on February 16, 2021 at 6:06 pm

      Thank you very much for your comment, Dr Chioke. Yes, Jeremy Griffith’s breakthrough instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition allows us to understand why the horror of racism has existed under the duress of the human condition and, most importantly, finally brings it to an end. This desperately needed reconciling understanding of the relationship between races is explained in Freedom Essay 28. Some of our WTM Centre founders talk about this reconciliation and liberation from racism on their centre websites, including Aboriginal Michael Manolis from the WTM Broome Centre, and Franklin Mukakanga from the WTM Zambia Centre, see his video in Video/Freedom Essay 8.

  • Fikre Germa on February 15, 2021 at 5:00 pm

    Imaginative and interesting.

  • Mai Eaton on February 15, 2021 at 6:00 pm

    The basis of all what’s been discussed in this interview has given me the clarity in understanding the human condition in fine detail. The insight which has explained the the human race has been conditioned into believing. And how we now know to unlock the conditioned mind. Love is the healer of all suffering and pain. Love is unconditional free and empowering.

    Love is all and yes it is the substance of healing all kinds of pain. This is so powerful. This is so beautiful.

  • Enso on February 15, 2021 at 11:01 pm

    Interesting and worth the time.

  • Marcus on February 16, 2021 at 3:39 am

    Amazing. On the one hand there is a huge spiritual shift to reconciling the ego but that movement may not have everyone’s attention. This added scientific angle should help and that gives me more hope than ever of the world truly healing.

  • Bal Sammy (london) on February 16, 2021 at 5:03 am

    A must for all those who want to have a factual insight into the human condition.

  • Tracey on February 16, 2021 at 11:28 am

    Thank goodness. I feel relieved and hopeful for mankind for what Mr Griffith has to say. And it’s all science, which is logical and inherently truthful. Amen

  • Edeltraud Baker on February 16, 2021 at 6:53 pm

    I am grateful for this interview. The more we learn the more we know that we don’t know.

  • Charles van der Haegen on February 16, 2021 at 9:09 pm

    Humans are good. We mutilated ourselves. Let’s study Jeremy’s ideas fully with understanding, generosity and humbleness, regain our sense of the Human condition that can give meaning to our life on earth. Let’s believe we can regain our Human Condition and work at it lovingly

  • Linda Mcailster on February 17, 2021 at 12:23 am

    Thankyou

  • Linda Mcailster on February 17, 2021 at 12:24 am

    hallelujah

  • Victoria on February 17, 2021 at 1:53 am

    Absolutely fascinating information. I want to understand in greater depth but I am feeling hopeful for our future

  • Erselle Stabler on February 17, 2021 at 2:53 am

    Love it. How do we accept this mild transition daily.
    Thank you.
    Erselle Stabler Seattle wa. Usa

    • WTM Admin on February 17, 2021 at 1:58 pm

      Thank you, Erselle. Please see our response to Desmond Bishop’s similar comment above.

  • J on February 17, 2021 at 4:13 am

    Love the spiritual and scientific aspect of this read

  • Bea on February 17, 2021 at 4:31 am

    Most interesting, I need to take this in in small bites to allow my brain to digest this information.

    • Annie on February 17, 2021 at 5:06 pm

      Finally being able to explain the human condition is astonishingly powerful but it presents a massive paradigm shift in our thinking so it’s natural to need to take time to digest all it reveals, Bea. As Jeremy Griffith explains, the human condition has historically been such a fearful, off-limits topic and the mind simply needs time to ride out the initial shock of having it broached and all manner of mystery unlocked. We suggest re-watching THE Interview because the more you do absorb it, the more you realise just how all-clarifying, all-redeeming, all-reconciling, all-healing, all-liberating it is!

  • Sophia on February 17, 2021 at 5:16 am

    Profound and inspiring message to metamorphose humanity to a greater and higher level of great exploits.

  • Raghel Lakhi on February 17, 2021 at 5:23 am

    The biggest problem is Greed and the wealthy people not having compassion for others. Love, compassion is completely removed from the world

    • WTM Admin on February 19, 2021 at 11:55 am

      In THE Interview Jeremy explains that our selfishness was an unavoidable consequence of humans’ necessary search for self-knowledge. We had to lose ourselves to find ourselves; we had to suffer becoming angry, alienated and egocentric until we found sufficient knowledge to explain ourselves. We have had to smother ourselves with material glory while we lacked the spiritual glory of compassionate understanding of ourselves. And with that understanding now found, we can know we are good, we can reconcile with our cooperative and loving instincts, our divisive behaviour can come to an end.

  • Yasmin on February 17, 2021 at 7:34 am

    I would like to know more about the human condition

    • WTM Admin on February 17, 2021 at 2:01 pm

      Thank you for your interest in our work, Yasmin. Our helpful Introductory Guide shows the steps to further introduce yourself to this understanding of the human condition, including after THE Interview looking at our key Introductory Videos/Freedom Essays 1-4 and 14 on our homepage. Also our FAQs about the human condition and its resolution are an excellent resource.

  • Desmond Bishop on February 17, 2021 at 8:35 am

    Excellent learning. How do we recover?

    • WTM Admin on February 17, 2021 at 1:57 pm

      Thank you for your appreciative comment, Desmond. It can take some deeper digestion to see the full significance of at last being able to make sense of the great paradox of the human life, namely how we humans are good when we appear to be the complete opposite. But what it means is that now that our goodness has been biologically established we no longer have to continue to try and prove ourselves, which was the source of all our selfish, egocentric behaviour, and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living — and this is the rapidly transforming and healing effect of being able to understand the human condition. This is all presented on our Transformation page which has a feast of powerful videos and instructive information. Also our FAQs about the Transformed State are an excellent resource.

  • Warren Peck on February 18, 2021 at 12:57 am

    Neuroplasticity of the brain allows for treatment of psychosis and neurosis. Our upset state, our human condition, can be healed!

    • WTM Admin on February 18, 2021 at 1:24 pm

      Hi Warren, neuroscience gives us tools to manage our damaged upset selves through understanding the neuroplasticity of our brains but it does not address the human condition itself. Biologist Jeremy Griffith gives us an understanding of, and solution to, the actual source of our damaged upset human condition and this is what is so significant and transforming about his work.

  • Ernest Nagy de Nagybaczon on February 18, 2021 at 1:27 am

    I’m fascinated with the subject and I would like to forward at least the advert part to a friend or the interview, but I don’t know how to do it. Hope you can help.

    • WTM Admin on February 18, 2021 at 1:19 pm

      Hi Ernest, you can share THE Interview by sending your friends to our homepage, which is http://www.humancondition.com, or by clicking on the ‘Share’ icons under the video of THE Interview on our homepage.

  • David kazadi on February 18, 2021 at 5:16 am

    Thank you 😊 for the lovely conversation

  • Mich on February 18, 2021 at 11:29 am

    Cheers.

  • Sidney Phillips on February 18, 2021 at 3:41 pm

    Always knew there’s more to our transformation process and think the timing is perfect thank you

  • John on February 19, 2021 at 2:39 am

    Super interesting! But how long will it take… We lived under these angry feelings for so long. It is kind of integrated in our DNA.

    • WTM Admin on February 19, 2021 at 11:34 am

      Thanks John. Jeremy Griffith explains humans’ angry and alienated behaviour is not a product of unchangeable savage animal instincts within us, but the result of a psychosis, caused by the clash between our instinct and intellect, and a psychosis IS changeable as it can be healed through understanding. As he explains in chapter 8:16E of FREEDOM, there is some genetic adaptation to upset, but it is miniscule compared with our all-loving instinctive soul, developed over the millions of years that we were living lovingly and cooperatively before the human condition emerged. To quote the end of that chapter “Even the upset that is now instinctive, in our genes, will not be an issue because when our capacity to love is finally liberated, as it can now be, it will effectively make all our upset—both psychological and instinctive—disappear without a trace. It is all history now.” So this transformation is certainly happening! The incredible Commendations on our homepage and also our fabulous Transformation page illustrate this.

  • Anabela Duarte de Oliveira Lewis on February 19, 2021 at 2:31 pm

    I think it will be a Fantastic Book for all ages and all genders.
    I am a Mother & Carer in a Forensic Hospital, and I already sent an email advising to buy a few for their Library.
    It’s good for Staff & Service Users.
    Thank you so much for your Beautiful Work, I would love to read it as well.
    I will advertise it for you with Pleasure, Good for the Humanity, Good for me.
    Regards
    Anabela

    • Joy on February 21, 2021 at 6:26 am

      Interesting, would like to hear more.

  • Peter on February 20, 2021 at 10:16 am

    Interesting

  • Bernadette on February 20, 2021 at 10:53 pm

    Thank you this I know as truth…

  • Nasrin zakeri on February 21, 2021 at 1:41 am

    I enjoyed very much.

  • Sean on February 21, 2021 at 5:15 am

    That was really something special. Thank you.

  • Elif on February 21, 2021 at 7:53 pm

    That was profound and life changing.. thank you!!

  • Helen on February 21, 2021 at 10:37 pm

    Very interesting.

  • Els de Wilde on February 21, 2021 at 11:06 pm

    A sound new simple consciousness awakening

  • Alistair Walker on February 22, 2021 at 1:20 am

    Capitalism pits us in competition with one another when we should be co-operating. We have to admit to ourselves capitalism causes us to act like locusts stripping the earth faster than it can handle.

    • WTM Admin on February 22, 2021 at 5:08 pm

      It takes some time to digest, but THE Interview provides the deeper explanation for why humans have had to be selfish and materialistic, and how it is only now with the human condition explained that we can at last truly cooperate. See our FAQs on politics which explain the left and right wing in politics.

  • Gloria O'Connell on February 22, 2021 at 10:48 am

    Amazing explanation sincerely, gloria o’connell

  • Gloria on February 22, 2021 at 11:10 am

    Very very interesting and thankyou for informing me. Sincerely, Gloria

  • Crawford J Lejeune on February 22, 2021 at 1:00 pm

    Thank you for such a truthful video. AMEN

  • Marshall Burgess on February 22, 2021 at 3:49 pm

    Dude you rock love learning from you. So much help your team n you give power to the human race. THANK YOU AND ALL THAT SUPPORT YOU.

  • Maddie Young on February 23, 2021 at 12:45 am

    Interesting, would like to hear more.

  • amar ernest amellal on February 23, 2021 at 1:17 am

    I always had the impression something was wrong with me because I never think anybody else was like me it starts in my childhood I was thinking my way of thinking not like nobody else supposedly normal but with age, I starting realizing I was correct in a logical way of analyzing the options rapidly and by listening to your analyze I understand I was perfectly normal thanks

    • WTM Admin on February 23, 2021 at 1:13 pm

      Thank you for your comment, Amar. You may be interested to read about ‘ships at sea’, which is the term Jeremy Griffith uses to describe people who try to hold onto the ideals under the duress of the human condition, in Freedom Essay 30.

  • Leslie Gabriel on February 23, 2021 at 1:32 am

    We are warned to not mistake evil for good and good for evil, take nothing at face value. We must think for ourselves and look to nature for answers. Thank you for this illuminating observation, I will dwell upon it and look for an answer that fits my observations, and consider yours as either truth or fallacy.

  • Sara on February 23, 2021 at 2:14 am

    Wonderful, enlightening information. Thank you very much.

  • Julie Shepherd on February 23, 2021 at 3:35 am

    Always loved biology, also psychology n spiritual life topics which l’ve studied extensively, amongst other important subjects, so all additions to understanding more deeply n thoroughly’s certainly welcome, thanks!

  • MP Pawlicki on February 23, 2021 at 4:34 am

    Dziekuje bardzo Prof. Jeremiego Griffitha bardzo pouczajacy wyklad na tem naszej aktualnej kondycji ludzkiej ktora powinno sie zmienic na lepsze idac do przodu by uratowac w ten sposob i zmienic na lepsze nasz stosunek do samych siebie i innych ludzi, poprzez wlasciwe wprowadzanie juz do szkolnictwa mlodziezy by wiecej osob moglo sie z tym zaznajomic, zrozumiec cala problematyke,starajac sie przy czym zmieniac siebie i nnych na lepsze bardziej wartosciowe przeslanki ku zbiorowemu, laczac sie globalnie w jedna spojna calosc aby moc zaczac wdrazac te pozytywne programy i nasze wartosci ludzkie by staly sie one naszym wspolnym urzeczywistnieniem. pozdrawiam was wszystkich i P. Jeremiego Griffitha za tak spojna i rzeczowa wypowiedz.
    [Thank you very much Prof. Jeremy Griffith, a very instructive lecture on our current human condition, which should change for the better, going forward to save in this way and change our attitude towards ourselves and other people for the better, by properly introducing young people to education, so that more people could to know it, understand the whole problem, while trying to change oneself and others for better and more valuable premises towards a collective one, joining globally into one whole in order to be able to start implementing these positive programs and our human values so that they would become our joint realization. I greet all of you and Mr. Jeremy Griffith for such a coherent and factual statement. (Translated from Polish.)]

  • Sandy L, S.A. on February 23, 2021 at 9:09 pm

    I enjoyed the breath of fresh air, away from separatism, dogma and even spirituality. Thank you. I am looking forward to reading your book.

  • Carmelina on February 24, 2021 at 5:37 am

    Most interesting

  • James Randall on February 24, 2021 at 6:48 am

    Really appreciate this amazing work will try to spread the word thank you.

  • Jacqui Waenga on February 24, 2021 at 7:33 am

    Thank you, thank you so much Dr Jeremy for what I believe to be the “Truth” and which resonates with me so deeply that I truly feel set free, it’s like I was carrying a huge bolder on my shoulders all my life but never knew it. I literally feel new and wholesome if that makes sense. We must help share your work with everyone we know and the world.

  • EM Sten on February 24, 2021 at 11:19 am

    Appreciation to your work Dr Biologist, it is amazing what you do.
    I have been researching for so much of how I can help the world who are suffering.
    Thanking You for your book, am very interested to get to read your work. Iorana koe!

  • Diana on February 24, 2021 at 4:27 pm

    So hopeful
    So transformative!!!

  • Lise on February 24, 2021 at 5:07 pm

    Amazing and interesting would love to get the book to read

  • Aref Cheikhrouhou on February 24, 2021 at 11:02 pm

    Very interested to get into this science

  • Jack Lynch on February 25, 2021 at 12:20 am

    Enthralling

  • Helle Borchsenius on February 25, 2021 at 3:09 am

    Seems true to me. I really would like to understand more. Been a serious student of a Course in Miracles for some time. And the need for a Creator or God is then outdated with this new theory? Just a question

    • WTM Admin on February 25, 2021 at 4:50 pm

      We appreciate your interest Helle. With regard to your question, we recommend reading WTM FAQ 6.3 which explains that the great founding prophets of religion actually looked forward to the arrival of the reconciling understanding of the human condition — which means supporters of religion shouldn’t see Jeremy’s scientific demystification of religious teachings as undermining of faith, but as religious fulfillment! Also, there is a huge difference between this understanding and the ‘Course in Miracles’, which this comment on Video/Freedom Essay 9 by subscriber Lesley Davies illustrates: “I can now see why A Course in Miracles didn’t work for me. I completed the 365 day course three years running to try and heal myself from deep depression and anxiety. After reading essay 15 [Freedom Essay 15: ‘How your life can immediately be transformed’] and studying Freedom it becomes clear that without the explanation of WHY we are so upset ACIM can only act as a sticky plaster with the ’scream’ still going on underneath.” Please also see FAQ 6.5 ‘Is this just another self-help, New Age, pseudo idealistic movement?’.

  • Heidi Neville on February 25, 2021 at 7:40 am

    I’m so excited and hopeful for our species!! So grateful that I somehow came across this link. May it happen to everyone….and I’ll do what I can to spread the word.

  • Barbara Smith on February 25, 2021 at 8:26 am

    Such a validation for the nurturing of our young.
    No longer scraping and bowing to an angry deity because we are inherently bad
    I knew it but was treated like a dangerous oddball.

  • Caitano de Souza on February 25, 2021 at 11:05 am

    Please send me the news regularly. Thanks

    • WTM Admin on February 25, 2021 at 4:54 pm

      Thanks Caitano, subscribing to our mailing list is the best way to receive regular WTM news updates as well as our weekly Freedom Essays on the fabulous new transformed world that opens up for all humans now that understanding of the human condition has been found. We also highly recommend exploring our WTM Community facility which is full of ways to join our all-exciting, heals-ourselves-and-the-world WTM Community.

  • Pete Sadler on February 27, 2021 at 7:17 pm

    After many years of reading and studying the work and ground breaking insights of Biologist Jeremy Griffith, I believe The Interview of Jeremy Griffith by Craig Conway is an outstanding introduction to understanding the Human Condition and how with true understanding of ourselves and others true world peace is definitely possible. Let me assure you it will be the most satisfying thing you could ever do and will start your journey to true enlightenment.

  • Maria Posholi on February 27, 2021 at 7:25 pm

    This is the eyes opening book we have been waiting for. Humanity is the only way to get through this

  • Joseph Wood on February 28, 2021 at 6:56 am

    Craig does a great job on this interview, and biologist Jeremy Griffith explains the “human condition” and how we overcome it in 4 sections. This is Jeremy’s definitive work, and through this interview will start to gain momentum world-wide. It is much needed and just in time to guide us away from the destructive path we are presently on. Freedom is the most profound book since the bible.

  • Jose on February 28, 2021 at 4:08 pm

    How we move forward

  • Charles van der Haegen on February 28, 2021 at 10:20 pm

    The more I dig into the material, the more I would like to be involved in participate and contribute to (1) Spreading Understanding (2) Repairing Human Society and the World , (3) Teaching the Transformed Way of Living by being and Practising the Change I/WE want to see in the World and (4) Bring about the indispensible operational psychological Repair in a transformed World

  • Vudi on March 1, 2021 at 4:23 am

    Mind blowing to hear that there was time of human innocence, a condition before current human conditions

  • Danny on March 1, 2021 at 5:39 am

    Unreal. I can see this changing many peoples values.

  • Jeff Magongoa on March 1, 2021 at 5:40 am

    This was deep and interesting…something about this presentation sinks and find agreeable space uncontested. However I need to replay it to get it right, as it sparks things I had once questioned

  • Alison Lockhart on March 1, 2021 at 10:02 am

    Just before the author said Bonobo I thought that was what he was going to say. It’s too difficult to explain on one comment but I feel like this has been my lifes work finally said out loud. As though what I have searched for over and over again has now been spoken. I’m just so in awe of the simplicity and vitally the so obvious truth. I commend you, this may sound strange but balance and blessings may just return now 😊🌱

  • Brad on March 1, 2021 at 12:07 pm

    This should be taught in schools, would save alot of people

  • Kate Orwell on March 1, 2021 at 12:19 pm

    Wow, I’ve never heard the Bible’s revealing of the nature of man, from beginning to end, explained as “a new science” before. Well done!!

  • Harvey Nkosi on March 1, 2021 at 4:36 pm

    Just can’t wait

  • Maya Patwa on March 1, 2021 at 6:39 pm

    Breath of fresh air.. been feeling that science has lost its soul… WTM will reconnect humans to harmony. Thank you and hurray 🥰 ❤️

  • Nancy Oyigo on March 1, 2021 at 6:47 pm

    A great understanding of human beings.

  • Shawn on March 1, 2021 at 10:51 pm

    This is worth watching

    • Oksana on March 3, 2021 at 3:15 am

      Humans are such that not everyone would want this. Its really sad, tragic.

      • WTM Admin on March 4, 2021 at 8:50 am

        It may take some time for people to realise that this breakthrough is what it says it is (as with any new scientific breakthrough in history), but once this catches on — through people recognising the importance of it — the infectious enthusiasm and selfless love it liberates will spread like wildfire. Oksana, our response to Andre above contains links you may find helpful to where the WTM and Jeremy explain just how quickly this knowledge can transform the world.

  • Leonard on March 2, 2021 at 6:50 pm

    This interview has given me a lot of food for thought. I have long felt that us humans lack the full understanding of the lives we live and the reasons behind our differing ways of life. It sounds like this may have the answers to my questions. I look forward to learning more.

  • Susan on March 2, 2021 at 6:52 pm

    Very interesting going to buy the book

  • Andre on March 3, 2021 at 1:02 am

    Brilliant👍

  • Andre on March 3, 2021 at 5:46 am

    As with all wonderful finds, this find tells all about where we come from, but almost nothing about where this takes us. I would prefer to know more about the benefits

    • WTM Admin on March 4, 2021 at 8:48 am

      Hi Andre, Part 4 of THE Interview explains how understanding of the human condition makes possible the psychological rehabilitation of the human race; and our FAQs 1.4 – 1.6 and chapter 9:9 of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM explain just how quickly this knowledge can transform the world.

  • Vanitha Reddy on March 3, 2021 at 8:31 pm

    Interesting and informative, thanks

  • Michael Moriarty on March 4, 2021 at 1:03 am

    It seems interesting

    • Tony Leon Guerrero on March 4, 2021 at 10:43 pm

      Most impressive book I’ve read about understanding the human conditions. In short… Why we are what we are.

  • Arnold Fellendans on March 4, 2021 at 2:52 am

    I watched the interview with great interest and pleasure. An article in the Scientific American of March 2020 might not only enhance the ideas presented by Jeremy Griffith, but may even show a route which can accelerate the whole process. This article describes how myeline stores our knowledge in our brain: very, very firmly. And myeline also makes it possible to collect different elements of knowledge, stored in different parts of our brain, extremely rapidly so that we can use it without any noticeable delay, ideal to jump to conclusions. What the article does not mention is the fact that biological phenomena known under the label of autopoiesis or complexity, forces us to maintain our knowledge also very firmly, since essential for our status, and that also in groups, so providing us with paradigmata. Making people conscious of these effects of myeline, can give Jeremy’s endeavour an desirable accellaration.

  • Magnus on March 5, 2021 at 12:12 am

    Outstanding presentation. Thank you so much for sharing this information which will help so many people in this quintessential evolution of consciousness and the human species at large.

  • Jenny Graham on March 5, 2021 at 5:16 pm

    Brilliant

  • Tim Jephcott on March 5, 2021 at 8:11 pm

    A very thorough description of our corrupted condition, but disappointingly a complete avoidance of who and what we are, as defined by people such as Deepak Chopra or Eckhart Tolle, among hundreds of others. A great book obviously, well promoted.

    • WTM Admin on March 6, 2021 at 9:08 am

      In Part 3 of THE Interview, Jeremy explains that our human instincts are loving and cooperative – that is our natural state; and in Part 4, it is explained how, with the human condition now solved, all humans will be able to return to that state, but with understanding, in a fully conscious way. Writers like Tolle and Chopra simply advocate you just stop thinking, ignore thoughts about the past and future and just focus on the present moment, but that’s an abandonment of the fundamental responsibility of having a conscious, thinking mind! You can read more about these ‘false starts’ in Freedom Essay 33, which includes a discussion of Tolle’s work; and FAQ 6.5 which explains the difference between the WTM and pseudo-idealistic movements (in addition to the aforementioned Part 4 of THE Interview).

  • Fionnuala Gannon on March 5, 2021 at 8:52 pm

    Excellent. Understanding given to our uniform psychoses and path forward through it.

  • Christine Brain on March 6, 2021 at 5:44 am

    Really makes sense. Let us all truly love and heal

  • Simon C Hoare on March 6, 2021 at 11:13 am

    So how do we collectively free humanity?

    • Genevieve on March 6, 2021 at 5:43 pm

      We just need to continue getting the explanation of the human condition out into the public arena Simon. As Jeremy explains in chapter 9.9 of FREEDOM, “it is going to come as an enormous relief for the planet and for humankind — in fact, it is going to make all the difference — that, through the finding of understanding of why humans are good and not bad, we can finally let go of our selfish, egocentric, have-to-prove-our-worth, materialistic, power-fame-fortune-and-glory-seeking way of living and take up the transformed, human-condition-liberated, selfless existence.”

    • Sharon on March 10, 2021 at 2:06 am

      AMEN

  • Barry R. on March 6, 2021 at 1:42 pm

    Really interesting and captivating

  • Christopher Hall on March 8, 2021 at 7:03 am

    We ABSOLUTELY can have been in that cooperative state AND competitive and aggressive too. You’re looking at Bonbo’s and excluding other chimps. We ARE animals. That’s why we are the way we are. I’m just waiting for God to turn up now…

    • WTM Admin on March 10, 2021 at 4:12 pm

      The evidence, as presented in chapter 5 of FREEDOM, is that bonobos represent a far better model of our human ancestors than chimpanzees. As is explained in FAQ 1.2, in the absence of the fully accountable, true understanding of the human condition — the explanation for why we behave divisively instead of cooperatively and lovingly — it makes sense that we humans needed to come up with some excuse in order to cope with the negative implications of our behaviour. And so we came up with the excuse that our ‘human nature’ is really no different from that seen in the animal kingdom; that we humans are competitive, aggressive, and selfish because of a need to reproduce our genes.
      Further, descriptions of human behaviour, such as egocentric, arrogant, inspired, depressed, deluded, pessimistic, optimistic, artificial, hateful, mean, immoral, guilt-ridden, evil, psychotic, neurotic, alienated, etc, all recognise the involvement of our species’ unique fully conscious thinking mind — that there is a psychological dimension to our behaviour. Humans have suffered not from the genetic-opportunism-based, non-psychological animal condition, but the conscious-mind-based, psychologically troubled human condition.
      You can read more about the false ‘savage instincts’ excuse in Freedom Essays 2 and 14.

  • WB on March 8, 2021 at 7:35 am

    Break all the contradictions of self-interest to altruism, selfish to altruistic to absolutely seamless.

  • Joseph on March 8, 2021 at 2:20 pm

    A truly amazing interview. The perfect pathway to the truth about our human condition. From beginning to end it is information that brings clarity and light to the understanding of human behaviour; past, present and our future. Most encouraging and inspirational.

  • PaulM on March 8, 2021 at 5:42 pm

    Yes, THE most important interview!

  • Pascal Clement on March 8, 2021 at 10:26 pm

    This is a remarkable breakthrough which can help huge progress in solving human conflicts.
    I hope world transformation movement will rapidly be known around our planet!

  • Michael on March 8, 2021 at 11:07 pm

    Maybe one or two insight’s, but still a very self contradictory conversation, and still didn’t touch on the real cause of the subject, it was more of a history lesson..

    • PaulM on March 10, 2021 at 12:49 pm

      In Part 1 of The Interview Griffith provides the scientific explanation for the human condition. He explains that humans’ angry, egocentric state was caused by a clash between the emerging conscious mind and the pre-established instinctive system. Griffith says, “the gene-based, natural selection process only gives species instinctive orientations to the world, whereas the nerve-based, conscious mind, which is able to make sense of cause and effect, needs understanding of the world to operate.
      There is some history, but it is illuminating. In Part 2 Griffith discusses prominent thinkers (stretching back to pre-science) who have recognized that the human condition was caused by the elements of instinct and intellect within us.

  • Zaid on March 9, 2021 at 12:17 am

    It’s great! It helps a lot

  • Marianne Hopkins on March 9, 2021 at 8:00 am

    Sounds like a good idea, we are divided by so many things, which cause the collapse of a society. By being a bit more real about the impact we have, on our friends,family,house, environment,world, etc, we become protecters of the world not abusers of it. I will probably not read your book, but to be frank, things need to change, and often it’s the people, not the lightbulb🐲🐒🐲🎃🏁🦊🧚🧚🧚🤴🐸🐲🐒

    • Abi on March 10, 2021 at 2:10 pm

      You should read Jeremy’s book Marianne, because it is the fundamental understanding or ourselves that allows change to happen. It makes sense of a world that seems inexplicable and gives us a way forward.

  • Yemi on March 9, 2021 at 8:11 am

    Excited to learn!

  • Gerald Mukuria on March 10, 2021 at 12:01 am

    A word from a humanistic human being is worth more than gold. God bless you

  • Nazir Jan Dharamsi on March 10, 2021 at 12:07 am

    Yearning to learn the new science ideas.

  • Grace on March 10, 2021 at 1:02 pm

    I totally agree with Jeremy and everything he said and I believe that more people that have or gain this knowledge and understanding, the more the people and the world can heal in love peace and understanding as we are all united. We should all take time in knowing and understanding ourselves so that we can empower those who don’t and the world can heal

  • Jacky on March 10, 2021 at 2:40 pm

    I was getting VERY EXCITED listening to this interview, having also spent MY entire life researching the human condition. (…which began in sociology, exploring social processes, and then moved onto deep study into the human psyche…) I was totally agreed with everything Jeremy was saying, and feeling delighted that this account was being shared by someone so knowledgeable. (…I cooled somewhat at the part of the interview that singled out ‘the Left’, the ‘politically correct’ and ‘new agers’ for blame…because it sounded more like good old fashioned (tribal) prejudice and divisivism than well considered research…and likely to promote polarism..) Regardless, I certainly intend to look into this further…!

    • WTM Admin on March 10, 2021 at 4:36 pm

          Thank you so much for your comment Jacky. This response is a little long but you raise an important issue around perceived criticism of the ‘the Left’, the ‘politically correct’ and ‘new agers’. Jeremy Griffith’s explanation opens up an entirely new way of thinking about humans, which is exciting, but it does present a huge paradigm shift in how we view ourselves and the world. For instance, we now know that we had to search for knowledge, ultimately sufficient knowledge to explain the human condition — why we are divisively rather than cooperatively behaved. This search corrupted us, but that was the price we had to pay. Our fundamental responsibility as conscious beings was to keep persevering with our corrupting search until we found the redeeming understanding of ourselves and, until that was found, there was no real way out of our psychologically upsetting situation. This point about our fundamental responsibility to search for knowledge, even though it was upsetting and corrupting, allows us to understand the real merits and liabilities of the left and right wings of politics. In his book FREEDOM, Jeremy explains the twin political problems we have are the brutality of the right-wing’s need to continue the corrupting search for knowledge free from too much condemning idealism, and the left-wing’s dishonest and deluded dogmatic imposition of pseudo-idealistic politically correct values. And so paradoxically it was the right-wing that actually held the moral high ground and the left-wing that posed the real threat to humanity due to the fact that its dogmatically imposed pseudo-idealism gravely endangers freedom of thought and the search for understanding.
          I hope this helps to see that Jeremy doesn’t excuse the right-wing for its corrupting behaviour nor unfairly focuses on the failings of the left but rather brings a profound understanding to both sides which ultimately will bring an end to the whole ugly business of politics; rather than promoting polarity it brings reconciling understanding. This is fully explained in our FAQs about politics and the new age movement, which we hope you will explore as part of your further consideration Jacky, as we think you will find this understanding really does provide all the answers you’ve ever sought about the human condition.

  • Roy Barquillq on March 10, 2021 at 4:09 pm

    In some cases, individuals have questions that only a specific person can tangibly explain everything we require for certain answers. Thank you for all the information, good explanations. It is a powerful tool, that through learning and deeper understanding is the core of each life’s transformation.

  • Kevin Pendlebury on March 11, 2021 at 11:25 am

    I am very keen to listen to this very accomplished man

  • Susan Jane Bell on March 11, 2021 at 12:07 pm

    Engaging, insightful and compelling.

  • Gris on March 11, 2021 at 4:29 pm

    Great and inspiring.

  • Jurgen on March 12, 2021 at 12:01 am

    Amazingly simple insight into such a complex problem regarding humankind’s worst traits. I can’t wait to read the book.

  • Gloria Pronger on March 12, 2021 at 3:23 am

    This interview has alleviated much of my deep anxiety about my grandchildren’s future. I hope that world leaders become inspired by this work, and use the positive energy that we possess naturally to overcome the crises we currently face. Thankyou for you for this new knowledge

  • Kevin C on March 12, 2021 at 4:15 am

    Needed in every classroom everywhere

  • Leigh on March 12, 2021 at 6:20 am

    Why is his explanation so full of biblical stuff? Defeats the object of the exercise if you ask me.

    • WTM Admin on March 13, 2021 at 9:55 am

      Hi Leigh, the realm of inquiry of the human condition is where science and religion overlap, so naturally in explaining the human condition the terms ‘good and evil’, religious references and other philosophical analogies will be used and through scientific explanation be finally demystified and reconciled. We have an FAQ that deals directly with this question, FAQ 1.15: If this is biology, why the religious references?

  • Clara C. Sierra on March 13, 2021 at 12:26 am

    I would have loved to acquired this understanding of the human condition much earlier in life. It would have served sooo much. I wish schools concentrate on giving us life-basic-survival skills that makes effective @ living. Thank you.

  • Queenie Ataiti on March 13, 2021 at 10:12 am

    Hallo Doctor, isnt it appropriate to say that ‘sin’ is the cause of the condition the world is in at the moment. I appreciate your talk, thank you

    • WTM Admin on March 13, 2021 at 12:29 pm

      Hi Queenie, ‘sin’ is the religious term historically used to describe our angry, egocentric and alienated human condition. With the advances of science, we can now understand that our psychologically upset human condition is the product of a two million year old, unavoidable clash between our gene-based instincts and our emerging nerve-based consciousness. As Jeremy has written (in chapter 3.8 of FREEDOM),“the Seven Deadly Sins of the human condition, of lust, anger, pride, envy, covetousness, gluttony and sloth, are in truth all different manifestations of the three fundamental upsets of anger, egocentricity and alienation that unavoidably emerged when humans became fully conscious and had to set out in search of knowledge in the presence of unjustly condemning instincts.”

  • Allan Francis Aistrop on March 14, 2021 at 12:36 am

    Amazing

  • Cecil on March 14, 2021 at 12:41 am

    This is the best book ever written next to the bible.

  • Peter T, England on March 14, 2021 at 3:02 am

    Amazing and inspiring stuff. This is for everyone anywhere on the planet!!

  • Arturs Nikorjukins on March 14, 2021 at 4:01 am

    Amazing

  • Twilight on March 14, 2021 at 9:19 am

    We were given a computer brain, but no program for it; but Aha, Griffith has found it, made sense of our lives!

  • Jamie Duffy on March 14, 2021 at 5:33 pm

    I found this so inspiring and uplifting. Given me understanding of hope for the human condition. I am 73, female. Somehow I knew this was so but never knew how to articulate or explain why and where it all went wrong for us. I always have understood a child is innocent and pure until its slate is written on. I’m definitely going to buy this book. It is so imperative to understand and internalize this for the sake of humanity and our planet and all life forms and each other and our future direction.

  • MM Joffe on March 14, 2021 at 9:46 pm

    Bonobos are as they are because they live in a plentiful environment, as compared to chimpanzees. Does that not explain their disposition and behaviour?

    • WTM Admin on March 15, 2021 at 9:52 am

      As Jeremy explains in chapter 6.8 of FREEDOM, being in a food-rich, relatively predator-and-competitor-free environment will not quell competition for mating opportunities. The only thing that can do that is the love-indoctrination process. So while the love-indoctrination process does require relatively ideal conditions to become established (see chapter 5:6 of FREEDOM), it is wrong to say that bonobos’ disposition and behaviour is explained by their environment alone.

  • Jay on March 15, 2021 at 1:51 am

    This is a big enough issue that we need to worry about as a human race rather than manupulating & killing each other for no real reasons. It would be best to keep the natural & supernatural aspects separate due to various religious beliefs & faiths to move forward from where the human race has got up to over the last two million years! Simply because it would be much easier to get to the bottom if we keep the supernatural elements away from the core discovery!

    • WTM Admin on March 15, 2021 at 10:00 am

      Yes, they are emotive topics, but as is explained in FAQ 1.15, the study of the human condition is the study of humans’ capacity for acts of both so-called ‘good and evil’—of why, when the ideals are to be cooperative loving and selfless are we capable of incredible aggression and selfishness. This realm of inquiry is where science and religion overlap, so naturally in explaining the human condition the terms ‘good and evil’ and religious references will be used, and through scientific explanation, finally demystified and reconciled.

  • Damota on March 15, 2021 at 10:04 am

    Liberating, …taking away all of mankind’s prejudices that are tightly attached. Great stuff.

  • Donall Meehan on March 15, 2021 at 1:01 pm

    Watching that interview was revolutionising. Although I can’t stop thinking about how can we achieve this nearly impossible challenge of over coming and spreading the knowledge of the human condition? When we live in a world full of conflict and hate. I’m 17 and I live in Ireland, I want to help!

    • WTM Admin on March 15, 2021 at 2:30 pm

          Hi Donall, what a wonderfully generous response! It may take time for people to realise that this breakthrough is what it says it is (as with any new scientific breakthrough in history), but once this catches on — through people recognising the importance of it — the infectious enthusiasm and selfless love it liberates will spread like wildfire. We recommend you look at our FAQs 1.4 – 1.6 and chapter 9:9 of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM for more on just how quickly this knowledge can transform the world.
          Your offer to help this all-important project is so appreciated. We have a guide here on our website for people who want to help and join the WTM, including subscribing to our mailing list, watching our key introductory material (including THE Interview, which you have done), reading FREEDOM, becoming a member and interacting with us. We have a thriving WTM Community with over 45 global WTM Centres and we have regular webinars and meetings to discuss this incredible transformation — see our WTM Community page. And we also have a World Transformation Movement Facebook Community, so feel free to join and share in the discussion, excitement and fellowship there and on our website!

    • Ismail Noordien on March 16, 2021 at 7:41 am

      Very very informative

  • Angela on March 15, 2021 at 2:53 pm

    Thanks for sharing.

  • Jennifer Finlayson on March 15, 2021 at 5:28 pm

    Merci, les Professeurs. 😁😁😁 [Thank you, Professors. (Translated from French)]

  • Marcelle on March 15, 2021 at 7:08 pm

    Really looking forward to reading this…something very positive

  • Bruce Frank on March 15, 2021 at 11:47 pm

    A great way to look at, to see and understand the human condition… maybe all the better to see our potential and how we can achieve it!… together!

  • Leslie Gabriel on March 16, 2021 at 12:28 am

    Are we totally free of instinctual conditioning, is it possible to retrogress?

    • WTM Admin on March 16, 2021 at 12:49 pm

      As is explained in THE Interview, humans’ angry, egocentric and alienated behaviour is the result of a psychosis, not due to savage instincts within us, and as Jeremy explains, “it is actually really good news that our behaviour is due to a conscious-mind-based psychologically troubled condition because psychoses can be healed with understanding. If our competitive and aggressive behaviour was due to us having savage instincts then we would be stuck with that born-with, hard-wired, innate behaviour.” You can read more about the false savage instincts excuse in FAQ 1.2.

  • Chris Mayer on March 16, 2021 at 2:31 am

    This interview could change the world. Need only hear it once. You will be changed. Absolutely freeing❤️😊☝️

  • Stephen Hall on March 16, 2021 at 12:46 pm

    Excellent timely interview

    • Candice M Young on March 17, 2021 at 5:14 am

      I definitely want and need to know this information

  • Ann Marie Mitchell on March 16, 2021 at 5:41 pm

    I am drawn to this way of seeing ourselves & the world which has been alluded to previously from Moses & Plato to Bob Dylan. A call to quiet mass hysteria and collectively pull our socks up and walk forth – together?

  • Viorel Pamfile on March 17, 2021 at 2:11 am

    That’s amazing!

  • Ursula Thut on March 17, 2021 at 5:02 am

    Thank you very much 💖
    The real quintessential, clear and understandable, CONGRATULATIONS FOR THIS HUGE WORK 💐

  • Lantz on March 17, 2021 at 5:08 am

    Interesting discussion…

  • Casper on March 17, 2021 at 5:50 am

    This is the most positive, logic and uplifting message from the scientific community I have heard in a long long time. Especially in the very dark times, we are finding ourselves in right now.
    This is a beacon of light, we all need to be a part of!❤️

  • Chuene William Rammutla on March 17, 2021 at 8:46 am

    Quite inspiring and informative

  • Desmond Opoku on March 17, 2021 at 8:56 am

    Amazing reviews and explanation of your human endeavours

  • Cherie on March 17, 2021 at 12:46 pm

    Empowering, exciting. Yes let’s all choose to walk in the light one step at a time, bless.

  • Ricardo Rodrigues on March 17, 2021 at 4:54 pm

    A new open door to freedom. Thank you.

  • Joey on March 17, 2021 at 7:45 pm

    Never heard anything so parochial and small minded in relation to the human condition with such high sounding claims. I mean off the claims weren’t so hyperbolic. It might have been considered interesting.
    The claims were so high sounding at the end it was just stupid.

    • WTM Admin on March 20, 2021 at 12:16 pm

      The absolutely astonishing claims made about Jeremy Griffith’s breakthrough explanation, such as it is the insight that will ‘solve the human condition and save the world’, do warrant initial extreme scepticism, but the amazing fact is that they all withstand scrutiny; a person can begin reading the explanation and the more they read into it the more they will realise the claims being made are actually true, and in time become appreciated for their forthright honesty in indicating where the solution to our problems lies. Read more in FAQ 1.9: Should people be sceptical about these claims.

  • Bobby Apollo Aretakis on March 18, 2021 at 1:34 am

    I’m all in ..sign me up ..ty Sir.

  • Milley on March 18, 2021 at 1:36 am

    Sounds like re-packaged Christianity without Christ. Best of luck

    • WTM Admin on March 18, 2021 at 1:01 pm

      Unlike religions, which are based on faith or dogma, the understanding of the human condition is based on rational, first-principle-based biology; it is knowledge-driven. Please see our FAQs that clarify the difference between the work of Jeremy Griffith and the WTM, and religions.

  • ارش [Arch] on March 18, 2021 at 2:11 am

    درود امیدوارم به پارسی هم منتشر کنید [Greetings I hope you publish to Parsi]

    • WTM Admin on March 18, 2021 at 5:51 pm

      We certainly hope to be able to publish this breakthrough in all languages. At the moment THE Interview and other WTM publications are available in Afrikaans, Dutch, French, German and Spanish; you can access these transaltions on our homepage (below ‘Main Videos’ see ‘Translations’ button). We also have many WTM Centres all around the world which you can see here. You can also watch all our videos using the subtitles function. (The subtitles icon ‘cc’ is at the bottom of every video player.)

  • Mary Sulfaro on March 18, 2021 at 3:01 am

    Brilliant, informative, very logical, knowledgeable mentally stimulating, I could listen to the interview over & over again. Thank you

  • Rachmond Howard on March 18, 2021 at 3:41 am

    If natural selection has programmed our instincts why did we develop a self consciousness (intellect) since the latter would be in conflict with the instinct and then result in psychosis which is. a state that is destructive to our wellbeing.

    • WTM Admin on March 18, 2021 at 12:59 pm

      Jeremy explains that the emergence of consciousness was a by-product of the ‘love indoctrination’ process, which allowed it to escape the blocks that all other animals have to its development (see FAQ 5.4: What is consciousness? / Why is it that humans became conscious while other animals haven’t? / How did consciousness emerge in humans?). And when consciousness did emerge and begin to exercise its power of self-management, yes it did come into conflict with our pre-establised instincts, which led to the psychologically upset state of the human condition.

  • Chuol Jabuor on March 18, 2021 at 8:11 am

    The book is very encouraging in our life time

  • Don Abey on March 18, 2021 at 9:55 am

    Dear sir, I here by inform you that was remarkable historical information that I gathered today in this discussion, much appreciated

  • John on March 18, 2021 at 2:47 pm

    This seems really interesting! i think i might try this out!

  • Marta Maojo on March 18, 2021 at 6:59 pm

    HI to your wonderful team. I am Australian but living in Spain. I really really wish your work was translated into Spanish. I cannot offer to translate but there are forums of voluntary translators for example. It is really important that this is accessible. I am losing my voice explaining it!
    Regards and many thanks for your work. Marta

    • WTM Admin on March 19, 2021 at 8:11 am

      Hi Marta, here are the links to THE Interview and our key Introductory Video/Freedom Essay 1 in Spanish. Regarding other Spanish translations, the founder of WTM Colombia, Carlos Cruz Blanco, presents his website in Spanish, including his welcome video and lots of other information about the WTM. Some of our key work has also been translated into German, Dutch, French and Afrikaans, all of which can be accessed on our homepage (under ‘Main Videos’ there is a ‘Translations’ button).

  • Michael Hilton on March 18, 2021 at 10:53 pm

    Hello, I love hearing or reading viewpoints about enlightenment or attaining higher awareness, to be able to live one’s real potential, and to share and spread the words of kindness and joy.. Am I a dreamer?

  • Mark Gilmore on March 19, 2021 at 4:45 am

    Can i have this information sent via email, i would greatly appreciate it, thank you

    • WTM Admin on March 19, 2021 at 10:31 am

      Hi Mark, by subscribing to our mailing list you will receive our weekly Freedom Essays as well as regular WTM news updates on the fabulous new transformed world that opens up for all humans now that understanding of the human condition has been found.

  • Demendanca on March 19, 2021 at 7:42 am

    Thanks lord to lead me here! Thanks WTM I will keep close connect! Peace for Human! Thanks!

  • Ugo Bruni on March 19, 2021 at 10:38 am

    Great interview and great news this is coming out.

  • Honest Review on March 19, 2021 at 7:53 pm

    This is a first step, not a fix like it is made out to be. You need to recognise and acknowledge the injustice before you can put it behind us. But this just skips that crucial step. It’s like making pasta, this is the pasta dough but you can’t get their without the eggs, flour, yolks, olive oil or salt. Once we can realise the crimes committed by majorities onto minorities fully is when this solution can become applicable and solve problems, until then your right wing solution to world peace won’t come to be. Also narcissism (NPD) is a massive cause for this so if you want to educate yourself on what I mean start with understanding what that is and why it is. Thank you for you time.

    • WTM Admin on March 20, 2021 at 12:18 pm

      Thank you for your comment. As Jeremy acknowledges and explains throughout his work, the angry, egocentric and alienated human condition has caused immense brutality, pain and suffering between humans—between different sexes, religions, ethnicities, generations; it has been one long horror story. But what matters now is that we can, through the reconciling and redeeming and rehabilitating explanation of the human condition, finally understand the source of the psychological upset that drove those injustices and bring an end to it. For present generations this means we can at last be honest about all the horrors, because the human condition has been defended at its very source, and even more importantly, the human race can leave behind its whole upset history as compassionately dealt with. And this includes those with extreme states of egocentricity and narcissism, known as psychopaths or power addicts. Jeremy explains this power addicted state, particularly in men, in chapter 8:16D of FREEDOM. The significance and profundity of Jeremy’s explanation of the human condition takes some time to absorb, but the more you do absorb it, the more you realise just how all-redeeming, all-reconciling and all-liberating it is.

  • Snowdon Romeo on March 20, 2021 at 12:05 am

    Yes the allegory of Adam & Eve has been vastly misinterpreted for sure. If you take that story literally, it can make no sense. The fruit of knowledge was the introduction of the “Ego”of man.

    • WTM Admin on March 20, 2021 at 12:20 pm

      Yes, Snowdon, this reconciling understanding of the human condition at last makes it possible to explain and demystify all mythology, including all the parables and stories in the Bible. Jeremy Griffith explains that the prophet Moses went as close as you could possibly go in those pre-scientific times to actually explain the human condition when he said “we took the fruit from the tree of knowledge [became conscious] and were disobedient [obviously meaning we developed a conscious free will that defied our already established instincts that had been controlling our lives] and became perpetrators of sin [sufferers of psychologically upset, divisive behaviour]”. All Moses lacked to fully explain the human condition was the scientific explanation of the difference between genes and nerves, which defends our ‘disobedience’. It is this explanation that finally allows us to understand that even though we became immensely psychologically upset sufferers of anger, egocentricity and alienation for participating in humanity’s search for knowledge, we weren’t ‘evil’; in fact, we are the heroes of the story of life on Earth!

  • KristinParikh on March 20, 2021 at 3:43 am

    Deeply moving and very interesting.

  • June on March 20, 2021 at 6:55 am

    Fantastic information so far, can’t wait to continue reading. Thank you so much for these gifts

  • Lysiane Janssens on March 20, 2021 at 8:44 am

    Amazing interview. I am studying Kabbalah and I think the wisdom is the sense of Life, altruism is our true condition. Thank you.

    • WTM Admin on March 20, 2021 at 11:41 am

      Thanks Lysiane. Yes, in Part 3 of THE Interview, Jeremy explains that our human instincts are loving and cooperative — altruistic; that is our natural state. And in Part 4, he explains the reason why we had to defy those instincts and become angry, egocentric and alienated sufferers of the human condition, and in providing that redeeming, reconciling and transforming biological insight, humans will be able to return to that all-loving cooperative state, but this time in a fully knowing, conscious way.

  • John Gibson on March 20, 2021 at 8:49 am

    Thank you for compiling this epic work. I followed Julyan Jaynes & his Bi-cameral mind and consciousness movement. Frank Wallace and Neo-tech (Neo Think) manuals and his tragic murder in cold blood. I’ve studied Shamanic practices, quantum mechanics and energy healing. This world & Humanity needs this more than ever. I just hope that enough of us take the time to read and comprehend the wisdom.

    • WTM Admin on March 20, 2021 at 10:43 am

      Yes, what was missing in all these attempts to delve into the problem of the human condition was the all-important clarifying, redeeming, reconciling and psychologically rehabilitating explanation for WHY the conflict between our instincts and our consciousness occurred. Until that was found, we humans couldn’t relieve ourselves of our psychologically upset state or condition.

  • Elizabeth Rojas on March 20, 2021 at 9:04 am

    Thank you for the great interview and the knowledge its giving to us. Thank you for support to the world. I am more than gratefully blessed to have this book.

  • Mike "The Spike" Smith on March 20, 2021 at 9:38 am

    If you ask Plato, the second you achieve a Utopia such as Atlantis something will drown it out and the Soddom and Gomorrah story also comes to mind but on the opposite side of the spectrum… I think we must always keep up an artificially balanced system while we do need to move forward as a race, or the universe itself will balance things back to equilibrium. Grtz Mike Smith

    • WTM Admin on March 20, 2021 at 12:13 pm

      It is true that while the corrupting search for knowledge was going on it was not possible to find a permanent balance between cooperation and selfishness. These fluctuations are evident in the action of democracy — as Jeremy Griffith writes in chapter 3.9 of FREEDOM, under democracy “the proper balance is sought between the need to maintain a degree of selfless, loving, soulful, cooperative ‘ideal’ behaviour for society to function, and the need for there to be sufficient freedom from the imposition of the expectation of such ‘ideal’ behaviour, for people to be able to carry on the corrupting search for knowledge.” It does take some time to digest, but what is so significant about this breakthrough is that we can at last reconcile instinct and intellect, idealism and realism, which does bring about true and lasting equilibrium.

  • Rosalind Richardson on March 20, 2021 at 6:57 pm

    That interview was absolutely fascinating and without doubt LIFE CHANGING for me. I will help spread this messages from where I am! What incredible work! I am incredibly impressed and relieved by your work. Thank you for the Freedom!

  • Constance Gotsopoulou on March 20, 2021 at 9:36 pm

    Thank you so much 💥
    I have had many aha moments to keep walking to where I am today and as I became vegan I used to feel as though I didn’t belong here on this planet other than with some fellow vegans. My journey though sometimes very painful has brought me home and real peace within💚🌱
    Thank you so much every step makes sense to me now blessings 💞🕊

  • Rob Hartog on March 21, 2021 at 4:30 am

    Now that I have passed my 91st birhday I get to know myself and the life I lived.

  • Carmen on March 21, 2021 at 4:43 am

    Oh my word!!!!!!! What an awesome confirmation! Thank you so much! I really needed my inner beliefs confirmed right now. Love and light to you all! Keep up the good work. I am so excited! HalleluYAHUAH

  • Christian on March 21, 2021 at 11:16 am

    Happy to see your concept

  • Cheryl Blandin on March 21, 2021 at 7:09 pm

    This is a European condition. On meeting other nations who were actually [in] development, Europeans thought these older nations were savages due to their simple and loving way of life. Obviously [the] Iceage must have been terrifying!!

    • WTM Admin on March 22, 2021 at 4:06 pm

      What is explained in THE Interview is that the longer an individual human, or even a ‘race’ (ethnic group) of humans, was exposed to the great battle that humanity has been heroically waging against ignorance, the more they would suffer from the upset state of the angry, egocentric and alienated human condition. While it is true that some European ‘races’ have been more exposed to the battle than some other ‘races’, it is not correct to say that the human condition is a European condition – all humans are now part of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, and are, therefore, nowhere near as innocent as humans were some 2 million years ago when the battle of the human condition first emerged. We recommend you read Freedom Essay 28: The end of racism.

  • Dallas Beaufort on March 21, 2021 at 8:20 pm

    Love your work

  • Sašapraha on March 22, 2021 at 12:01 am

    Great ideas

  • Willie Botha on March 22, 2021 at 8:41 am

    Looking forward to reading the book

  • Jonathan Gendron on March 22, 2021 at 11:39 am

    Thank you M. Prosen for sharing this interview with all human kind. Thank you also M. Conway for having taking the time to invite and ask M Griffith. Now because of you, I realize that I wish the brain of M. Jeremy Griffith was talking to mine when it was 12 or less year old because at this time I was trying for the very first time to understand my one species on this beautiful planet. All kids brains in the world should understand the ideas exposed by M. Griffith as soon as possible in school. It is a high quality time story telling about us.

  • Lysiane Janssens on March 22, 2021 at 11:42 am

    Thank you for the videos. Not dogmatic. Neither a polítical propaganda, but a deep intuition of our true purpose. You should have given also a quotation of Dostoievsky…Great authors explored the “human condition” (Joseph Conrad too, or Leopoldo Lugones, etc). It is time to live the “humanities”, they had not been made only for “museums”!

    • Abi on March 22, 2021 at 4:56 pm

      Yes these videos are just wonderful! I don’t know if you saw it, but there’s a stunning quote from Dostoevsky in Part 3 of The Interview that Jeremy uses to illustrate “our species’ bonobo-like time in an alienation-free, all-sensitive and all-loving state of innocence”. Just search ‘Dostoevsky’ above to find it under the picture of the bonobos lying on the grass. I do agree that the great authors have explored the human condition, which is why their work has resonated I imagine. I must say though, that Jeremy is forever citing profound quotes from authors and philosophers that I have not come across before. Have a look through Freedom’s index and you’ll be amazed by all the references!

  • Malcolm Berke on March 22, 2021 at 3:55 pm

    You must have missed the memo….. already been done. It just needs to be done on a large scale. DIANETICS, which is a science, handles the human condition and elevates individuals and society invariably when applied.

    • WTM Admin on March 23, 2021 at 10:15 am

      Certainly humanity has been trying all sorts of ways to therapise itself, but what is so unique about what Jeremy Griffith presents is that we finally have the ultimate scientific defence for our psychologically upset self, which is the key element in providing true therapy to all humans. As Jeremy says in Part 4 of THE Interview, “what this real—and actually very obvious—instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition fundamentally does is lift the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race. It establishes that we humans are good and not bad after all. While we are all inevitably variously angry, egocentric and alienated from our different encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, ultimately self-knowledge, understanding of our corrupted condition, we can now know that every human is fundamentally good. And this ability to understand and know there was a good reason why the human race became psychologically upset, is the key, relieving understanding we have been in search of ever since we became conscious some 2 million years ago and our corrupted condition emerged.”

  • Angel on March 22, 2021 at 5:25 pm

    Great informative speech.

  • Una on March 23, 2021 at 1:52 am

    Absolutely fabulous 🙏🌈💥

  • Uta Benoist on March 23, 2021 at 2:30 am

    Thank you so much!!!👏💛

  • Edwin Tsvangirayi on March 23, 2021 at 3:21 am

    There is a spiritual dimensional clarity missing here

    • WTM Admin on March 23, 2021 at 12:31 pm

      As Jeremy Griffith has written in one of his earlier books (A Species In Denial), “The demystification of our world doesn’t mean the specialness of our world is removed, rather it means the specialness is made more tangible. Mechanistic science, like all forms of denial, has largely been a process of stripping the beauty and truth from the world whereas the denial-free explanation of the world restores all that beauty and truth. It allows humans to live with a full awareness of, and ability to savour, the beauty of integration. It is alienation that is devoid of spirituality, not the truth.” You may also be interested in reading FAQ 6.2 which includes the answer to ‘Does the scientific explanation of ‘God’ really contain all the attributes of religion’s metaphysical ‘God’?

  • Joraver Singh Dhothar on March 23, 2021 at 1:19 pm

    Thanks soooo much.

  • Brian Manly on March 23, 2021 at 3:49 pm

    I’m an Australian Vietnam Veteran and not a big fan of the psychology world but this interview has expressed so many things that I have always felt but never been able to convey. Thank you.

  • Jason on March 23, 2021 at 8:27 pm

    I feel like this information needs to be presented to everyone on the planet as quickly as possible. I mention it to most people I encounter and ask that they in turn tell at least 2 more people. Just think of how fast word spread on Covid19. We must also awaken spiritually in order to be better protected from future biological attacks. Our true divine nature is awakening and soon this evil will be changing its tune.

    • WTM Admin on March 24, 2021 at 12:09 pm

      As Jeremy Griffith says in THE Interview, the power of cooperative selflessness that solving the human condition liberates will enable us to effectively deal with all the overwhelming problems that are burdening our world, and very quickly, because we will be able to effectively address challenges like pandemics as a collective by prioritising the needs of the greater whole. But it’s very important to point out that this explanation allows us to understand that even though we became immensely psychologically upset sufferers of anger, egocentricity and alienation for participating in humanity’s search for knowledge, we weren’t ‘evil’; in fact, humans are the heroes of the story of life on Earth. And it’s this knowledge that legitimately allows us to return to our natural loving, selfless and cooperative instincts, that ‘divine’ state you mention.

  • Maree Walker on March 24, 2021 at 12:00 am

    What a brilliant interview to watch and listen to. It answers so many of my unanswered questions about people on this earth. I always knew there was something amiss amongst us. Thank you

  • Ellen Caya on March 24, 2021 at 6:04 am

    IT IS the most interesting, logical interview I ever listened to! I would pay good money to be able to have a conversation with the man!!! I cannot wait to read the book! THANK YOU A WHOLE LOTS!

  • Vivien on March 24, 2021 at 7:55 am

    There’s a lot to take in, think I will need to listen to it several times and read the book as it’s mind blowing! I’m confused about how Adam and Eve got blamed for everything and a lot more confused me too. I found the explanations confusing and incomplete but I so want to learn and understand more.

    • Annie on March 24, 2021 at 12:48 pm

      The breakthrough explanation of the human condition presents a massive paradigm shift in our thinking so it’s natural to need to take time to digest all it reveals. As Jeremy Griffith describes, the human condition has historically been such a fearful, off-limits topic and the mind simply needs time to ride out the initial shock of having it broached and all manner of mystery unlocked. For instance, in Part 2 of THE Interview, Jeremy explains that the pre-scientific story of Adam and Eve was ‘wrong’ and that ‘Adam and Eve are actually not just good but the heroes of the whole story of life on Earth’. We encourage re-watching THE Interview and looking at the Introductory Videos on the WTM homepage because the more you do absorb this explanation, the more you realise just how all-clarifying, all-redeeming, all-reconciling, all-healing, all-liberating it is!

  • Roland Amarasekara on March 24, 2021 at 11:35 am

    Excellent interview, about biology, science and human behavior from consciousness point of view. Fascinating to learn as a buddhist, retired science and maths teacher living in UK, in the present desperate time for all living.

  • Joel Davies on March 25, 2021 at 12:01 am

    This has really opened my eyes and has given me answers about myself and the human race that I’ve been looking for. I’d accepted the reasons as to why we are the way we are and didn’t realise there might possibly be an alternative answer. I need to know more so I can understand myself better to make myself the best version of myself that I could possibly be. I’m not looking for perfection, though some changes in the right direction would be a step in the right direction for us all.
    Thank you

    • Robert Ferguson on March 25, 2021 at 11:39 am

      The above analysis seeks place blame for negative human qualities and behaviors solely upon the conscious intellect and asserts the notion that human beings are by their biological nature exclusively kind and loving. This ignores the reality that humans have evolved to be a gregarious species and goes against conventional scientific thinking about the origins of human behavior. Humans can indeed be kind and loving, but this behavior is directed towards members of their group. Towards outsiders they can display great savagery and brutality, red in tooth and claw, just like the other beasts. Thus, people are adapted to be both kind and cruel, just like all other gregarious species. There was never a time when they were only one or the other. The human intellect, although it can come into conflict with natural tendencies, acts, for the most part, to fulfill instinctively felt needs, not to create them. The problem with the presented analysis is that it encourages the reader to believe that negative human traits and desires can be entirely eliminated correct thinking and self discipline. This is clearly false.

      • WTM Admin on March 26, 2021 at 2:25 pm

        Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition explains that we became psychologically upset sufferers of the angry, egocentric and alienated human condition as the unavoidable result of a clash between our pre-established instincts and emerging conscious mind. Jeremy explains in THE Interview that without this defence for our upset state we have sought to falsely blame our behaviour on ‘savage instincts’ within us. The ‘multi-level selection’ theory, which claims we have loving instincts for interactions within the group, and aggressive instincts for interactions outside the group, is a variant of this ‘savage instincts’ excuse, and is debunked in chapter 2.11 of FREEDOM. We suggest that with this true defence for our behaviour established, it is now possible to consider that there is clear evidence that humans developed from a cooperative and loving ancestor – of which the bonobos are a living model; you can read about the fossil evidence for this cooperative past in Freedom Essay 22.

        • Alex on March 30, 2021 at 8:03 am

          I am far from convinced that the love indoctrination process would produce a perfectly benign, compassionate and beneficent offspring. I foresee an infant so raised becoming manipulative and entitled. Altruism requires a reciprocal interaction in which a negotiation produces a compromise.

          • WTM Admin on March 31, 2021 at 8:36 am

            To read more about how the Love Indoctrination process produces genuinely cooperative and loving infants, which the bonobos evidence, please see chapter 5:4 of FREEDOM. As Jeremy explains, it would have been very easy for the process to break down; for example, he explains that one of the difficulties “with selecting for more maternal mothers is that their genes don’t tend to endure because their offspring tend to be the most selflessly behaved, too ready to put others before themselves, leaving the more aggressive, competitive and selfish individuals to take advantage of their selflessness. Such selfish opportunism could, however, be avoided if all members of the group were equally well nurtured with love, equally trained in selflessness—this situation being yet another of the delicate conditions that has to be maintained if love-indoctrination is to develop, for any breakdown in nurturing within a group that is in the midst of developing love-indoctrination could jeopardise the whole situation and see it revert to the old state of the ‘each-for-his-own’, opportunistic, all-out-competition-where-only-dominance-hierarchy-can-bring-some-peace, selfish-genes-rule, ‘animal condition’.”

  • Pam Seigneur on March 25, 2021 at 12:55 am

    The story of Jonathan Livingston Seagull comes to mind.

    • WTM Admin on March 25, 2021 at 2:16 pm

      Certainly there has been a recognition in literature (and by profound thinkers generally) that there must be something better than our current human condition afflicted state. However many people have deluded themselves that this liberated state could be achieved through people artificially restraining, sublimating and even transcending their upset, corrupted condition, but the truth is that this state could only be achieved by confronting, truthfully thinking about, and finally explaining and thus solving the human condition at its source, which is what Jeremy Griffith has done. In the end it was only getting to the bottom of it all, not transcendence, that could fulfil Richard Bach’s allegoral quest for perfection.

  • Beed on March 26, 2021 at 4:34 am

    I am very interested to know more

  • Dennis Benning on March 26, 2021 at 7:53 am

    I am so happy that there are people that see the truth. Thank you it gives hope for all people on this earth.

  • Lisa Key on March 26, 2021 at 9:59 am

    My life was filled with trauma starting at 4mths. I was raised in institutional care and always felt more comfortable with animals, I lived and relied on instinct. I didn’t fight mine but instead I struggled with as you call it The Human Condition of others.
    I wish I could live long enough to see the human race move to a kinder gentler way of life .. peace love and happiness xxx

    • WTM Admin on March 27, 2021 at 8:35 am

      The human condition has been such a deeply, deeply tragic journey full of so much unthinkable pain and suffering, especially for children, it really is almost too much to bare. What is so significant about Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is we no longer have to be burdened by the fundamental question of whether we are good or bad because our core goodness as individuals and as a species has been biologically established. We can understand humans’ psychological upset was the price humans had to pay for searching for knowledge and that the human story presents the greatest, most heroic story ever told. We can know what happened to us as infants was not because we weren’t good enough or that we were unlovable but rather it was the result of the human condition. So we can bring great compassion and kindness to ourselves and others and we don’t have to overly confront the upset within us (as FAQ 1.19 summarises). Also our FAQs 1.4 – 1.6 and chapter 9:9 of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM explain just how quickly this knowledge can transform the world.

  • Enani Belay-Mogues on March 27, 2021 at 12:01 am

    I found the interview very interesting. It gives us hope that one day we human beings will change our present condition. I will for sure read the book “Freedom”.

  • Viviana Quiroga Cloninger on March 27, 2021 at 12:05 am

    Wish to assist in this understanding as an enquiring mind. Thank you

  • Joris Tinel on March 27, 2021 at 7:30 am

    In the whole human condition of billions of years there never was a period that needed more wisdom than the time we are living in now. However, the mass is dictating and I have little confidance that it will turn out in the right direction after all.

    • WTM Admin on March 27, 2021 at 1:31 pm

      It is true that this breakthrough wisdom has arrived at the 11th hour! And as with any new scientific breakthrough in history it may take time for people to realise this is what it says it is but once this catches on — through people recognising the importance of it — the infectious enthusiasm and selfless love it liberates will spread like wildfire. And it really is the universal solution to all the problems we face! For the growing momentum of support that is already building around the world for Jeremy’s breakthrough explanation of the human condition, see our FAQ on our ever-expanding network of WTM Centres, and please read FAQs 1.4–1.6 and chapter 9:9 of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM for more on the speed in which this knowledge can turn humanity in the right direction and transform it.

  • Bob on March 27, 2021 at 7:43 am

    I like the way you explain it

  • Maria Matzer on March 28, 2021 at 12:01 am

    I also feel, I can only agree 👍 ✌

  • Marc Wilkinson on March 28, 2021 at 1:31 am

    Very interesting…

  • Tracy on March 28, 2021 at 9:01 am

    I am interested to learn more. And help the future for our further generations.

  • Dag UK on March 28, 2021 at 9:31 am

    I would love to know more and I’d love to have and to read your book. It’s a very interesting subject. Everyone should have access to this knowledge. Thank you Professor.

  • Francesca Morrison on March 28, 2021 at 9:50 pm

    Utterly fascinating and hopeful

  • T. Young on March 29, 2021 at 2:17 am

    Listen Carefully, no politics, no Dogma.. Pure Enlightenment! This is a very powerful Truth! This will cause the world to change in a big way! Thank you and Godspeed!

    • Alex on March 30, 2021 at 7:52 am

      I’m not entirely sure I understand the entire thesis, however it seems to suggest that evolutionary science dictates that Homo sapiens must be forever dominated by a hyper individualistic dog eat dog mentality. A sort of Hobbesian war of everyone against everyone. However as a student of evolutionary science and a clinician I’m well aware that individual egos can be sublimated in the furtherance of shared and altruistic goals, the problem being that this reciprocity is rather easily directed into the furtherance of goals that are both selfish or destructive or both. History resounds with the clash of sabres of groups, tribes, nations, that had superlative ingroup compassion and rabid hatred for the outgroup. I may well be getting the wrong end of the stick here but if so it’s at least partly because of the professors repetition of “dog eat dog” mentality

      • WTM Admin on March 31, 2021 at 8:30 am

        Thanks for your comment Alex. Jeremy explains that our selfish and aggressive behaviour is not instinctive, rather it is psychological in origin, the result of a clash between our emerging conscious mind, and pre-established loving instincts. Most importantly, psychoses can be healed with understanding, so that’s the importance of the psychosis-addressing-and-solving, explanation of the human condition presented in THE Interview — it brings a complete and permanent end to our insecurity-driven destructive behaviour, completely transforming all humans into secure and happy beings.

  • Rita MacDonald on March 29, 2021 at 3:58 am

    Interesting interview, as I was born in 1939 I had been brought up with the original sin permeating all humans. As an adult I disbelieved this and thought as many have, that we are all good, every day! How different is that from your podcast? Thank you, Rita

    • WTM Admin on March 30, 2021 at 11:45 am

      In Part 2 of THE Interview, Jeremy explains that the pre-scientific story of Adam and Eve was “wrong” in the sense that “Adam and Eve [i.e. us humans] are actually not just good but the heroes of the whole story of life on Earth”. He goes on to elaborate that “what this real — and actually very obvious — instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition fundamentally does is lift the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race. It establishes that we humans are good and not bad after all. While we are all inevitably variously angry, egocentric and alienated from our different encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, ultimately self-knowledge, understanding of our corrupted condition, we can now know that every human is fundamentally good.” We encourage looking at the Introductory Videos on the WTM homepage because the more you do absorb this explanation, the more you realise just how all-clarifying, all-redeeming, all-reconciling, all-healing, all-liberating it is!

  • Sander on March 29, 2021 at 1:50 pm

    Sorry, the interviewee is deluded. What he understands to be the human species behavior is only limited to Western culture.

    • WTM Admin on March 30, 2021 at 11:41 am

      Jeremy Griffith’s treatise on the human condition, which is summarised here in THE Interview, explains that the longer an individual human, or even a ‘race’ (ethnic group) of humans, was exposed to the great battle that humanity has been heroically waging against ignorance, the more they would suffer from the upset state of the angry, egocentric and alienated human condition. While it is true that some Western ‘races’ have been more exposed to the battle than some other, more sheltered ‘races’, it is not correct to say that the human condition is a Western condition – all humans are now part of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, and are, therefore, nowhere near as innocent as humans were some 2 million years ago when the battle of the human condition first emerged. All humans are now variously angry, egocentric and alienated due to the human condition. We recommend you read Freedom Essay 28: The end of racism.

  • Alfred on March 30, 2021 at 4:08 am

    Thank you.

  • Livia Jakobs on March 30, 2021 at 4:41 am

    Sounds reasonable, rational but also natural as a discovery and a declaration of the inner goodness of all human beings; to trust each other and to be true and good to each other…
    Back to Paradise….

    • WTM Admin on March 30, 2021 at 11:51 am

      Thanks Livia, yes, with our psychologically upset now defended, it is now safe to admit that our human instincts are loving and cooperative, that is our natural state – see Part 3 of THE Interview; and in Part 4, it is explained how, with the human condition now solved, all humans will be able to return to that non-upset ideal state we’ve longed for, be it Paradise, Eden, Nirvana, Utopia, Shangri-La or whatever term we ever-hopeful humans ascribed to it, but we will return to it with understanding, in a fully conscious way. As the poet T.S. Eliot anticipated, ‘We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time’ (Little Gidding, 1942).

  • Mary on March 30, 2021 at 5:59 am

    Look carefully at development of new-born infant the struggles with self-centered and becoming an adult. This success or fail largely depends on parenting and environment.

    • WTM Admin on March 31, 2021 at 8:26 am

      Humanity’s ability to nurture has been severely compromised by the human condition, but now that all our preoccupied behaviour has been defended by the explanation of the human condition, we can now safely acknowledge the absolute importance of nurturing in the development of children – see chapter 8:16C of FREEDOM on ‘The dire consequences of terminal levels of alienation destroying our ability to nurture our children’.

  • Stephen Armitage on March 30, 2021 at 3:48 pm

    Very informative

  • Teresa Bird on March 30, 2021 at 4:24 pm

    Sorry you lost me at mothers selfishly give to their offspring to ensure their genes go on, well what about doing as love or duty? I love nurturing my child now 14 nothing to do with whether genes go in or not, I don’t care it’s about the Soul learning development. My Son has taught me so much. I’ve a masters in Counselling and study philosophy for 13 years including Plato. It’s nothing to do with genes going on. It’s about the Soul development.

    • WTM Admin on March 31, 2021 at 5:40 pm

      Maternalism is a genetically selfish activity, but Jeremy is not saying maternalism accounts for the love human mothers feel for their children. In Part 3 of the THE Interview, he explains that it was because maternalism is a genetically selfish activity that love indoctrination was able to become established in our distant ancestors millions of years ago. However, and very importantly, once love indoctrination became established, mothers began to actively love their children. The extraordinarily nurturing bonobos demonstrate this transition from selfish instinctive behaviour to the beginning of genuine love. You can read more about love indoctrination in Freedom Essay 21 and chapter 5 of FREEDOM.

  • Barbara on March 30, 2021 at 10:07 pm

    Can’t wait to read and see more. I just listened to the interview and it really resonated with me. Thank you.

  • John Otten on March 30, 2021 at 10:31 pm

    Finally we are addressing the real human aspect without political interference with this “little thing” called the Truth and examine how we can deal with issues that takes us UP together rather than fight each other and end up NOWHERE.

  • Rev. Chaplain Patrick White on March 31, 2021 at 12:08 am

    Always interested in learning new things

  • Langan on March 31, 2021 at 8:14 pm

    Very very interesting would like to listen more

  • A.J. Dirker on April 1, 2021 at 3:04 am

    I’m interested

  • Christine on April 1, 2021 at 4:10 am

    I’ve only just begun to read the book. I watched the interview and when Adam and Eve became heroes I agreed, since the truth resonates I feel so much better taking the watcher approach to how my mind works for and against itself. It’s given me a greater sense of peace with myself. Thank you

  • Michelle-Anne on April 1, 2021 at 7:38 am

    Simply brilliant, food for so much unraveling thought, I now hope to approach situations with a greater clarity of understanding.

  • Ottmar Karl on April 1, 2021 at 7:44 am

    Do you show your communication also in German?

    • WTM Admin on April 1, 2021 at 11:40 am

      Yes, Ottmar, THE Interview and our key Introductory Video/Essays 1-10 & 14 are available in German on our homepage (just scroll down to under the ‘Main Videos’, and click on the ‘Translations’ button). You can also watch