Video & Transcript of May Gibbs,
WTM Phoenix Centre

 

(To learn more about May Gibbs, see www.wtmphoenix.com)

 

 

May Gibbs: It was back in 2019 when I came across Jeremy Griffith’s work; it was the free book [FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition] that I downloaded onto my phone and it was a really tough read [see The Great Guilt that causes the Deaf Effect for explanation of the ‘Deaf Effect’]. So I put it to the side and I didn’t go back to it for about a year or two until maybe February of this year [2022]. I was going through some really dark times—health issues within the family and the pandemic and everything—and so it was a really tough time in February. That’s when I went back into the materials and even though I didn’t finish the book, I signed up on the website [www.HumanCondition.com]. I engaged with all the essays [Freedom Essay series]—the emails and the essays and everything—and it just keeps you engaged.

Studying the materials in the works and then integrating it into my life has really changed me. It’s been really life altering. And like you say, I’ve got to have my Kleenex every time I talk about it because it makes me such a more compassionate, peaceful person, you know? And I love it! And I just wish everybody could be the same way. My daughters, my daughters have always been great, but now I see them in this more loving light, and I don’t have to worry so much about them anymore, you know? And my husband, he’s getting better, and I can see our relationship is getting so much better because I understand why we do the things we do, why we say the things we say to each other, you know? And it’s just improved my relationships quite a bit. [See chapter 8:11B of FREEDOM or F. Essay 26 and 27 on the relationship between men and women.]

 

Sally Edgar, Sydney WTM founding member: May, I was just curious, was there a specific moment, when you’ve been exploring Jeremy’s work, that stood out for you in terms of what hit you the most?

 

May: I think it was during the start of the war, in the Ukraine; that’s always been a struggle for me to understand why wars happen. I was a child during the Vietnam War, and so it affected me. I was pretty young, so it didn’t affect me that much because I didn’t understand what was going on. But I saw the devastation in people’s lives that that war caused. But it brought me here to the United States, when I was about four years old, and we had to struggle. My parents didn’t speak the language and they had a hard time getting jobs and it was really rough. But my parents have since passed, they did their best; they did their best to make sure we were taken care of. I have five brothers. They’re all scattered across the US, and one of them went back to Vietnam. But they did their best. And their best is so good because we all turned out really well. You know, I’m married, happily married. I’ve got two beautiful girls. And life is just so good, and I don’t know, had I stayed there over there, I don’t know how my life would have been. But my life is so good right now.

I was so mad and angry at my parents for the longest time because I thought that they weren’t doing enough. Why were we so poor, and why were we having all these struggles, and why are people so mean? But it wasn’t them. You know, they did the best they could. And now I understand that that is how it had to be. And it’s okay. I forgive, I forgive my parents, I forgive myself for being so mean to my parents because I lacked understanding. It’s really something else, this understanding.

So that war [in the Ukraine]…when it happened, I remember sitting outside and crying to a friend of mine on the phone and then I remembered FREEDOM. And I thought why am I even feeling this way? I should really look back into that information and see if I can help myself somehow to get out of these feelings and this depression and maybe shed some light. So I went back and I read some of the essays. What Jeremy Griffith and everybody else that understands this information has presented and are perpetuating, it’s the truth. You know, when you come to understand all of this, you forgive—you’re so easy to forgive because there’s nothing to not forgive. And so I’m just really grateful and thankful. And it’s really ignited a burning desire. I mean, you can’t tell right now from my face that there is a burning desire to get this information out to as many people as I can. It’s a burning desire to help all our children and everyone, everyone in the world to find peace. And that’s the thing with me, the thing that I love the most—it’s brought a lot of peace into my life. A lot of peace.