Transcript of WTM Hertfordshire Centre founder
Roz Bachl talking about how FREEDOM
transformed her life


(To learn more about Roz, see



Hi, my name’s Roz Bachl and I’m here to tell you some things about WTM and why you should be investigating this further. My story: I’m 56 years old, I’ve had two children, I’m on my second marriage and ever since I was about 7 I always thought that the world was kind of off. It was like I was on another planet and people weren’t behaving as they should. I always knew from a kind of primal, here [touching her heart] point of view that people were really good but why were they behaving like they were? Why were there wars and why was there famine? And why were people nasty to each other? I really couldn’t understand this. I went through lots of different things looking for the answers until one day I stumbled across, literally stumbled, on the internet, I was looking at things like ‘human condition’, ‘human behaviour’ and I stumbled across this [holding up Jeremy Griffith’s book FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition]. This is Jeremy Griffith who’s an Australian biologist and he’s written this book. He’s collated all the scientific works giving me and you the answer to why the people are like they are, thus solving the problems of the world.

Now, you can tell how much I read it because look at all the little yellow things [Post-It Notes]. I’m, I think gobsmacked is probably the best word to describe it. This has changed the way I see people. I now understand why they are like it. It’s transformed my second marriage, I understand how he ticks and how men tick and why, so that’s a really important one as well. It’s also given me a much better relationship with my children who are now in their 30s.

I can’t stress enough the importance of this. I am so delighted to be able to tell more people about this. For me it’s the truth and this book, FREEDOM, has all the proof. I’d like you to contact me at Have a look on the website And hopefully we’ll see you soon. Bye!