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There is a lot to digest here Steven, so take your time. Simply being able to understand the human condition brings huge psychological relief to all of our situations. You might be interested in Jeremy Griffith’s new book The Great Transformation, which gives a concise description of how understanding of the human condition actually brings about the psychological rehabilitation of humans, and also, how everyone’s life can immediately be transformed.

It is wonderful to have your interest, Sheila, and re-watching THE Interview is what we recommend as explanation of the human condition does produce a huge paradigm shift in our thinking, so this critical new science does take time to fully absorb as you are finding. From there we suggest you explore our homepage, which guides you through all our key material to consider.

    Hi Graham, thank you for your questions. Yes, Jeremy Griffith explains that our species’ consciousness emerged over millions of years, and that its experiments in self-management drew ‘criticism’ from our our pre-established instinctive self, until this ‘criticism’ reached a point that the conscious mind became defensive, which is the source of our psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated behaviour. In Part 3 of THE Interview Jeremy explains how consciousness developed as a result of nurturing or the love-indoctrination process and refers viewers to Chapter 7 of his definitive book FREEDOM for a comprehensive explanation — a summary of which is provided in FAQ 5.4 titled ‘What is consciousness? / Why is it that humans became conscious while other animals haven’t? / How did consciousness emerge in humans?’.     With regard to existing apes, it is explained in Part 3 of THE Interview that very specific conditions (such as an environment rich in food and shelter and low in competitors) are required to develop love-indoctrination and thus consciousness. So the answer to your question is only our particular ancestors found themselves in those circumstances; the other apes did not. Indeed, the evidence presented in Part 3 is that bonobos (Pan paniscus) are also undergoing the love-indoctrination process because they are in an environment that allows the love indoctrination process, which explains why they are the most conscious of the apes. You can read more about the love-indoctrination process, the hominin fossil record, and bonobos in chapter 5 of FREEDOM.

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Hi Georgie, it’s wonderful to have your interest! To progress your understanding after watching THE Interview we recommend these next steps: • Subscribe to our free Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. • Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition. Totally free, no registration required. • Read the Key Books by Jeremy Griffith. Totally free to download, no registration required. • Join and participate in our Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. • Contact your nearest WTM Centre, there are over 60 around the world with many translations available. • Help this critical new science by sharing it!

Tom, we suggest that the more you digest the ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation presented in THE Interview, the more you will realise how penetrating and accountable it is in getting to the very bottom of our corrupted human condition. Yes we are extremely fearful, but what is driving that fear, and the angry, competitive and egocentric behaviour you talk of? As you digest this redeeming explanation of our psychologically upset state, the more clear it becomes that what is driving all our behaviour is a deep insecurity we feel about our seemingly non-ideal state. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why we are fundamentally good — answer the age-old question of why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents here.

Yes, as Jeremy Griffith says in this interview: “We humans have absolutely lived in hope, faith and trust that one day, somewhere, some place, all the efforts of everyone—but of scientists in particular—would finally produce the completely redeeming, uplifting and healing understanding of us humans." But what is so remarkable, is that with the ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition, that faith has now been fulfilled. Humanity has completed its great task of finding the holy grail of understanding, which is understanding of ourselves!

While Buddhism contains all manner of truths about human life, it is all from a pre-scientific view. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. We suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ which explains the unique significance of Jeremy Griffith’s work.

Hi John, explanation of the human condition does present a huge paradigm shift in our thinking so there is a lot to be explained and therefore a lot to digest which does takes a little time and application. So what is being presented here isn’t a ‘quick fix’ based on transcending or escaping our condition. It is only through addressing and understanding the dark side of ourselves could we free ourselves from the human condition and legitimately and truly heal and compassionately love ourselves and each other again. As Carl Jung famously said, ‘wholeness for humans depends on the ability to own their own shadow’. This is the critical difference between Jeremy’s work and self-help movements – see FAQ 6.5 ‘Is this just another self-help, New Age, pseudo idealistic, superficial-treatment-of-psychosis type movement?’

Hi Mark, thanks for your comment. You may find our FAQ 1.13 helpful as it explains many have recognised the instinct and intellect elements involved in creating the human condition. However, what was missing from the analysis was the ability to explain WHY this conflict occurred—which is that while gene-based naturally selected instincts give species orientations to the world, only the nerve-based conscious intellect can understand cause and effect and thus manage change; so when the fully conscious mind emerged and began managing change from a basis of understanding the instincts were in effect intolerant of such experiments, putting them at odds with the intellect. This understanding of WHY the conflict between our instincts and intellect occurred that Jeremy Griffith presents is all-important because it is only this clarifying, redeeming and reconciling explanation of the nature of the struggle between our instinctive self and conscious self that at last brings peace to our divided selves, and transforms the human race.

Despite our competitive and selfish behaviour, we humans have always intuitively believed we were fundamentally good, but we have never been able to explain this contradictory, conflicted condition. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why we are fundamentally good—answer the age-old question of why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents, so yes, ‘at last we got it’! In summary, the eternal battle for humans has been to validate ourselves, establish once and for all that we are fundamentally good and not bad, and it’s that deepest and most important of all battles that has finally been won. Solving the human condition solves all the confusion, frustration and suffering in human life at its source, see FAQ 1.5 ‘Why is this important to my life’.

That’s wonderful Miri! To progress your understanding after watching THE Interview we recommend these next steps: • Subscribe to our free Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. • Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition. Totally free, no registration required. • Read the Key Books by Jeremy Griffith. Totally free to download, no registration required. • Join and participate in our Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. • Contact your nearest WTM Centre, there are over 60 around the world with many translations available. • Help this critical new science by sharing it!

Dear Patricia, thank you for your request. We do make THE Interview freely available in different formats including a transcript which you can access here. (Just to clarify for readers of our comments broadcaster Craig Conway is British and biologist Jeremy Griffith is Australian.)

    Thank you for your comment about THE Interview and thoughts Lee. While there have been very important and courageous efforts to bring about new educational systems, like the Maria Montessori and Rudolf Steiner models, they were never going to restore us to our true nature without being able to confront and solve the human condition. Trying to nurture a sensitive state in children was a noble undertaking but ultimately it was going to fall short because we first had to understand why we had lost access to our true nature and it’s ability to be sensitive. We had to be able to answer the question of why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM.     To expand on this, as THE Interview explains, despite our competitive and selfish behaviour we have always intuitively believed we were fundamentally good, but we have never been able to explain this contradictory, conflicted condition, until now. Using first principle-based biology, Jeremy explains that understanding why the intellect had to defy our cooperative, all-loving instincts and become psychologically upset and alienated from our instinctive self or soul, could we resolve our species’ psychosis and legitimately return to the nurturing, loving and sensitive state we once lived in, that children, in their innocence, still instinctively expect, and which Maria Montessori recognised and sought to emulate with her education system.     So only the psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real explanation of the human condition can stop the effects of our psychologically upset or corrupted condition and restore us to our true nature. And it is precisely this real psychologically redeeming, relieving and transforming explanation of the human condition that Jeremy presents. We suggest our FAQ 1.26 ‘What is soul, have we all got one, has it been repressed, and if so, how do we rehabilitate it?’ and FAQ 1.6 ‘Why does understanding of the human condition solve everything?’

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Thanks for you comment Jack. Religions have provided humanity with the much needed guidance, comfort and love under the duress of the human condition but ultimately, to resolve and liberate ourselves from our conflicted human condition, we needed to understand why we were lovable which religions were unable to do. This is because to answer this question of ‘why, when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish?’ required the development of science and finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough presented in THE Interview. Also, as our response to Tim below explained, Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition reconciles science and religion by bringing biological understanding to pre-scientific concepts. It demystifies or ‘re-interprets’ religious terminology so in terms of what is God, although this is science, it is based on a Godly nature in the sense of recognising, like all the great religions do, that we humans once lived in a pre-human-condition-afflicted state of original innocence where we were perfectly instinctively orientated to the cooperative, selfless, loving, ‘Godly’ ideals of life; ‘God’ being explained in as being the integrative meaning of life. See FAQ 5.3 ‘What is the meaning of life? / What is God? / What is the Integrative Meaning of existence?’ and FAQ 1.15 about how this science demystifies religion.

Hi Tim, thank you for your comment. We certainly respect people’s religious views, but feel it is important to mention that Jeremy Griffith’s work doesn’t contradict a belief in God or Christianity, or the Bible’s content. It simply brings biological understanding to all those pre-scientific concepts. In fact, Jeremy considers the Bible to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing all the truth about human life albeit from a pre-science view. For example, as is explained in THE Interview, the story of Adam and Eve is a pre-scientific metaphor for the emergence of consciousness and its clash with our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts, resulting in humans ‘fall’ or them becoming psychologically upset or ‘sinful’. However as Jeremy stresses, we can now understand, from scientific first principles, that ‘Adam and Eve’ were ‘good’ to search for knowledge, not bad or ‘evil’. And with that redeeming answer to the human condition now found, we can bring lasting change to our psychological upset as our FAQ’s about religion further explain.

Good on you Riza. To pursue your interest, just go to our homepage — HumanCondition.com — which provides a wonderful road map to progress with all our key material made freely available and you can register for free, live, interactive presentations with Jeremy Griffith about this immensely relieving understanding. Also our Facebook Group provides a wonderful platform for participating in, or just observing, interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science.

    Yes Sarah, it turns out the explanation of the human condition is actually very simple! With regard to spreading the word, as Jeremy Griffith points out in Part 2 of THE Interview the issue of the human condition has been such a denied and off-limits subject that confronting it represents the “biggest of all blasphemies”, and how “science progresses funeral by funeral” when it comes to supporting big paradigm shifts like this. So it is up to the resolve of individuals to help the WTM break through the road block of the legitimate fear and resulting deaf effect the subject of the human condition causes in most people. You might find these links helpful: FAQ 1.14 ‘Why aren’t these ideas mainstream’ and FAQ 3.4 ‘How can I help the WTM’.     Having said that, as Jeremy explains in chapter 9.9 of his book FREEDOM: “Although this new world for humans, which the World Transformation Movement has been established to facilitate, will, as has been stated, have a slow beginning because humans initially find it difficult even taking in or ‘hearing’ discussion about the human condition, once the WTM is discovered, word of it and what it offers every human and the world will spread like wildfire.’” And so even though we haven’t yet reached the tipping point in terms of awareness of this great breakthrough, you can see from the excitement and relief in our ecstatic responses to THE Interview, we are well on our way! Also, on our homepage, you can see the rapidly growing appreciation and support for Jeremy’s work with outstanding commendations from thought leaders and WTM Centres all over the world!

Certainly recognition of our subconscious mind has been an important step in the human journey to understand the human condition, a step which began with Freud and Jung (see FAQ 1.47), ultimately however, we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. We suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this idea original or new? which explains the unique significance of Jeremy’s work.

We suggest that the more you digest Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition, the more you will realise how accountable it is in getting to the source of all humanity’s psychological upset. We suggest watching or reading Jeremy’s recent presentation The Great Guilt, which explains just how much denial we have had to employ to cope with our corrupted condition while we couldn’t explain it.

    Hi Guyanthony, you might like to read our FAQ 9.1 about how this puts an end to racism, and for a testimonial on the power of this knowledge to end racism, we recommend the presentations from Franklin Mukakanga and Refentse Molosiwa in Video/Freedom Essay 8.     With regard to spreading this reconciling understanding, as Jeremy says in Freedom Essay 15, “It is this particular undeniable consequence of the arrival of understanding of the human condition of the transformation of our lives from living selfishly and competitively to living selflessly and cooperatively that is going to eventually catch on as being the right response now for everyone and when it does, it will spread like wildfire across our planet, and save the world. And it is not a revolution that involves warfare and bloodshed like so many revolutions in the past, but a peaceful revolution that is driven by irrefutable knowledge/understanding. We humans are conscious beings and what consciousness needs is understanding, and now we have it. Ultimately, we humans respond to knowledge—anything less was bound to be ineffective. This is the real and lasting transformation that the human race has lived in hope, faith and trust would one day occur. It is the revolution of our minds.”

This, hope he had a long and healthy lives, to assist us and be a reference when things gets complicated.

While great care has been taken to present the information as quickly and simply as possible (which is done in Part 1 of THE Interview) explanation of the human condition can be initially difficult to access. This is because it has been the most terrifying of subjects to face as it is the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad as a species, and we have necessarily lived in almost total denial of it. We suggest looking at The Great Guilt where Jeremy Griffith explains this initial ‘deaf effect’ and how to overcome it.

    Thank you for your comment, Mikki. Yes, THE Interview explains all humans variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition and, in the extreme, that psychologically conflicted upset state produces psychopathic behaviour. Importantly, this breakthrough explanation doesn’t condone or sanction the horrendous atrocities humans can commit, rather, through bringing compassionate understanding to the source of humans’ upset behaviour, it gives us the power to ameliorate and thus subside and ultimately eliminate it.     However, while this biological understanding of the human condition really is the universal solution to all the problems we face, it does have a slow start-up phase. It will take some time to break through fixed patterns of thought, as well as the bastions of power in the world, but once this information gets a foothold through enough people like you developing a deep appreciation and desire to support it, the selfless love and energy that will generated will solve our problems very quickly because instead of being preoccupied with seeking salvation, or seeking power, fame, fortune etc, all our energies will be freed to truly work together and focus on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering in all the corners of the world.

Hi Alex, on our Translations page you can freely access all our Spanish translations! This includes THE Interview, Jeremy Griffith’s book Death by Dogma, the first 7 chapters of FREEDOM and Freedom Essay 1. The WTM Colombian Centre also presents its website in Spanish, including centre founder Carlos Cruz Blanco’s welcome video, so there is a significant amount of material available! As well you can watch all the videos on our website, using the closed captions or subtitles function in any language (just click on the ‘cc’ icon at the bottom of the video player/window).

Thank you for your considered feedback, Louca. Yes, social initiatives could never work until we solved the underlying riddle that was causing us to be egocentric and selfish, to behave in dysfunctional and destructive behaviour, towards ourselves and others. Essentially we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are humans so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. We hope you pursue your interest by registering for our free, live events with Jeremy and others and joining our popular Facebook Group where there is much fascinating discussion and interaction.

The work of the WTM is a scientific pursuit and was not created for profit, so all of our information and materials (including books, videos and podcasts) are provided absolutely free of charge on our website (no email required and there is no money involved). However, if you want a hardcopy of one of Jeremy’s books, and you don’t want to print it out yourself, you will have to purchase it from Amazon or other good bookstores – see here.

That makes sense Louis, just slowly pursue your interest. We suggest that the more you digest Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation, the more you will realise just how accountable and explanatory it is in getting to the source of all humanity’s psychological upset and trauma.

Part 4 of THE Interview, titled ‘How does the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible actually occur?’, presents the answer to how this understanding allows us to transform our lives. It explains that it will take a number of generations for the upset within us to be completely healed but it also stresses importantly we can be immediately free of its effects. Certainly there is habituation to overcome and humans do find change difficult but at last we can understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because we have the first principle science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it. So instead of being focused on power, fame, fortune and glory, all our energies will be freed to truly work together on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering and save our world. How this healing is immediately open to us all is summarised in FAQ 1.5 and FAQ 1.40 addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’.

    Yes, the more you digest Jeremy Griffith’s work, the more you realise that it doesn’t contradict a belief in God or Christianity, it simply brings biological understanding to all those pre-scientific concepts. We thought you might find our FAQs about religion of interest.     Additionally, our Freedom Essay 25: ‘The Truthful Biology of Life’ explains that with our divisive human condition now explained and defended, we can now see that natural selection is an integrative (what humanity has termed a ‘Godly’) process, not a random one, as mechanistic science has had to say it is.

Thanks for your interest Charles. Jeremy Griffith’s book FREEDOM is available for free on our homepage here (along with his other key books, including THE Interview) to read online or download. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. (Otherwise you can purchase hard copies from Amazon or other good bookstores.)

Thank you for your wonderful feedback Dawn and given your interest in bonobos, chapter 5 of Jeremy Griffith’s book FREEDOM further evidences what is explained in Part 3 of THE Interview about how extraordinarily cooperative and loving bonobos are and how their matriarchial or female-centric society demonstrate the nurturing based love-indoctrination process that created our cooperative instincts. Also, you will thoroughly enjoy watching a video of Professor Harry Prosen, who was the psychiatric consultant to the Bonobo Species Preservation Society, speaking about how empathetic bonobos are and also the significance of Jeremy’s breakthrough explanation. It was filmed at the Milwaukee County Zoo in front of the Zoo’s group of bonobos and can be watched in Freedom Essay 7. This is part of our Freedom Essay series which you can subscribe to our mailing list to be sent an essay each week or you can access the entire series here on our website.

    Thank you for your comment Kimberly but we disagree that human selfishness is a result of an instinctive “pecking order”, and it is incorrect to say that brain research supports this viewpoint. As THE Interview explains, unable to confront the human condition, science has been mechanistic and reductionist, and what’s more, has denied the existence of our psychologically troubled human condition, blaming our selfish behaviour on us having savage instincts which drive us to compete to be at the top of the “pecking order” – see FAQ 1.2 ‘How does science currently explain the human condition?’ And that is where the human race has been stalled, waiting in an increasingly distressed state for the real explanation for our psychologically troubled human condition that will finally make sense of the riddle of human life. In fact, in his Introduction to Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM, Professor Harry Prosen, a former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, points out that through a plethora of extraordinarily well funded intitatives such as the ‘Brain Initiative’ and the ‘Human Brain Project’, mechanistic science is attempting to understand the human brain and its underlying problems. However, Prof. Prosen spelt out the limitations of this type of brain research when he wrote, “while these initiatives are admirable in their goal to address the underlying, real problem afflicting the human race of the human condition, they are still attempting to do so from the same old reductionist, mechanistic position, which, as Jeremy explains in chapter 2, is an approach committed to avoiding the real psychological nature of the human condition, and as such is self-defeating; it is doomed to fail … So yes, while it is tempting to ascribe mental disorders to biology, it is a very limited approach. By contrast, Griffith’s understanding of our psychosis presents an understanding of, and solution to, the actual source of our damaged upset human condition and this is what is so unique and transforming about his work.” Yes, that human-mind-liberating, psychosis-relieving REAL explanation has at last been delivered with Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation, see FAQ 1.3 ‘What is Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition’.     So, as Prof. Prosen says, we can now understand the source of our behaviour, that it has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and that our greed and selfishness is a symptom of this insecure, human condition afflicted state. It follows that if you address that underlying insecurity, then our greed (along with all our other artificial sources of reinforcement) will be removed. And that is what this information does – it addresses and solves that core insecurity about our self-worth, see FAQ 1.40 How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?

    Thanks for your thoughts Jay. There is much to absorb in this interview but, to give as an overview of the role of science, ever since humans first became conscious some two million years ago humanity as a whole has, against enormous resistance, persevered in the search for and accumulation of knowledge. Thus, it is on the shoulders of eons of human effort and sacrifice that sufficient knowledge—specifically knowledge of the difference in the way genes and nerves process information—was ultimately found to confront and solve the human condition. Science is but the final refinement of that ancient quest for knowledge, the discipline the human race developed and entrusted with the specific task of searching for first-principle-based understanding, specifically self-understanding—understanding of the human condition no less. Therefore, as the interviewer Craig Conway says in Part 2 “your basic point is that science’s discovery of the way genes and nerves work has finally made it possible for the liberation of humanity from the horror of the human condition” to which Jeremy Griffith responds “Yes, that is the essential truth: science is the liberator, the so-called ‘messiah’ or ‘redeemer’ of humankind, as we always hoped it would be!”     To your point about science’s development of lethal weapons, yes life under the duress of the human condition has been horrific-beyond-description, but the more you digest how the instinct vs intellect battle resulted in humans’ psychologically upset state you can see the source of such unthinkable destruction is us humans. We are the ones who are egocentric, selfish, greedy, materialistic, angry as hell. And so it’s that underlying issue — our destructively behaved human condition — that science has enabled us to address and solve and further, it is this ability now to understand how we became so upset that allows that upset state to subside.     As mentioned there is much to absorb and therefore explain so you may find these FAQs helpful: FAQ 1.2 and 1.3 about mechanistic and holistic science and FAQ 1.6 about how understanding the human condition solves everything. We also suggest Jeremy’s Freedom Essay 29 ‘Can human conflict ever be brought to an end’.

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