Since THE Interview between Craig Conway and Jeremy Griffith first aired in 2020, tens of thousands of viewers have commented on it on HumanCondition.com — this is an archive of all those comments, including helpful responses from our team.
This is page 108 of 180 (pages run from the oldest comments to the latest).
The Comments below were made between May 9, 2024 and May 24, 2024.
Dustin Raymond Fuller
I found the interview amazing and it helped me
Mwa
Great wisdom
Neil Philip Lewis
I want to learn!
WTM Admin
Hi Neil, THE Interview is the ideal introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition. From there, at top of our homepage HumanCondition.com, it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes subscribing to our mailing list where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. We are a not-for-profit organisation and make all our material and publications free to read online, watch, listen to and even download and print!
Matei Ibak
Mind blowing....
gary miller
Thank you so much for your wisdom we are blessed to listen and learn for this / always be humble and thank you.
Daniel sumbi
Powerful
Kate Aumend
FREEDOM I am excited to hear more.
Nina
Humanity has been conditioned for millenia by the powers that be in religions and governments and banking and politics and so forth to be stupid and subservient to them for their nefarious agendas, then we have a problem with the human condition. It starts with them. We are not the problem. They are.
WTM Admin
Nina, being able to understand the human condition, we can now see that everyone has suffered from it, and all our institutions, including governments, have been a manifestation of our insecure, psychologically upset condition. As distinguished psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen (who wrote the Introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM) said: “What Griffith is presenting is understanding of the source insecurity that the whole human race suffers from for having destroyed our species’ innocent soul. It is a universal self-blame that his understanding at last provides healing insight into. All human behavior is saturated with that universal insecure, depressing state and resulting anger, egocentricity and alienation that has developed from it, but we finally have the compassionate foundation insight needed to dismantle all that ‘upset’/psychosis. So the real psychotherapy of our collective and individual psychoses can begin” (see FAQ 1.34). Only solving the human condition can stop the disintegration of society and the destruction of our world that is happening everywhere we look.
Sa'idu Bello Aliyu
It’s really fascinating and every human being should be concerned about the development of a new Science.
It’s amazing as our collective survival is in question.
Woody
I just saw it and ima take it
Renee Mott
Thanks for sharing……, so informative
mulu adhana
I have watched this video more than two times. It is so profound an explanation on our instinct and our conscious intellect.
I am from Africa, Ethiopia with almost no access to have this book but, with such enthusiasm to read if someone could help me to have access it for more deeper understanding of the subject.❤️❤️❤️
WTM Admin
Thanks very much for the feedback Mulu. Jeremy Griffith’s key books, including THE Interview and FREEDOM, are freely available on our homepage here to read online, print and download. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. Amazon also sell and ship hardcopies to most places around the world.
You might also be interested in seeing our African WTM Centres, which you can find on our WTM Centres page.
Marty Calanche
I love to hear more of this.
WTM Admin
Thank you Marty. Our homepage — HumanCondition.com — provides a wonderful road map to progress with all our key material made freely available and you can register for free weekly emails about this immensely relieving understanding. Also our Facebook Group provides a wonderful platform for participating in, or just observing, interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science.
Dan bell
Wow what an amazing interview, Jeremy is a very clever man and this explanation and the science behind it could change the world. Could stop global warming, wars, all the bad in the world if the world would listen. You now have to merge with right people that the masses might listen to and a way to still have a money system that works for the people like the macroeconomic theory and then work out how to bring this in to society so the people with more right now don’t feel like there being robbed of what they have showing these traits we have developed and stopping this amazing thing from happening
WTM Admin
It is wonderful the fundamental argument is resonating with you Dan. What is so extraordinary about this breakthrough is we can now understand the fundamental reason why people want more than they need; we can now understand the source of greed and competition and the need for power. When the conscious mind went in search of knowledge a conflict between our instinct and intellect broke out, leading to an undeserved sense of guilt and insecurity that caused us to become psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric, the upset state we refer to as the human condition—a state we sought to alleviate through a competitive, selfish and aggressive bid for the reinforcement we could gain from winning power, fame, fortune and glory. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict and the guilt it produced, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition. No other approach could bring about a fundamental change in our situation because no other approach dealt with the fundamental issue of the source of our destructive behaviour, and so money and other artificial sources of reinforcement remained necessary. Importantly, this will all happen naturally, nothing will be forced on anyone. Basically, we suggest that so exciting and relieving is this breakthrough, and the freedom from the human condition that is now on offer, that everyone will want it, and so it will catch on like wildfire and this is already happening.
You might like to look at our FAQ 1.40 ‘Aren’t the problems of the world too overwhelming to ever be fixed? / Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’. It is explained there that even those who are most committed to seeking validation through gaining power and wealth, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, biological explanation of the human condition that establishes our worth at the most fundamental level.
Eden O. Gurell
Been interested in science since I was a kid, now I’ma senior citizen, just an average or common person yet still wanting, eagered learning, and shared my ownself understanding for what I’ve learened and shared those to them (to my brothers and sisters) that might help releasing those fears, silently suffocating feelings inside of their chests and thoughts that they don’t matters and not being heared those confusions that anyone will be losing hopes and ne a better person.
And I honestly became so exhausted mentally and physically yesterday after some few individuals treated me so unkindly and judging me, whom I only my intention was, a simple messaged sharing my own expression of kindness deeds to others for us living peacefully here on earth. I don’t consider myself religious. Although I have my wholeheartedly deep faith in God.
And just probably I’ve have (deep spiritually connection to the universe ***even I’m not a scientist *** as well to our nature and to music), and back to my main topic, after I intended discontinued listening to this gentleman, I closed my eyes, deep breath and blow my breath away . And prayed for guidance to maintains my clean positive thoughts inside of me and asked help to Holy Spirit. I believe in my heart that miracles exist, when I found this page in Facebook. It’s enlightening, very informative explanations to my curiosity and for myself to be being educated to the amazing fact of reality.
Only my 1 wish, was for my late husband to be by my side when I’m watching this incredible shared knowledge of Mr. Jeremy Griffith it’s been answered and I could imagine my late husband’s huge smile in his face, we usually both enjoyed watching together about science and animal shows .
May I know if where can I purchace the copy of the book. Please send it to my email. I will appreciate it much. And my sincere gratitude for sharing with us for this most amazing awaited closure about us as simple words H-U-M-A-N-S.
WTM Admin
Thanks very much Eden, this really is the understanding that we have all yearned for! We will email you with details about getting a copy of Jeremy’s book FREEDOM, but for those reading here, the book is free to read online or download HERE on our homepage with no email registration required. The work of the WTM is a scientific pursuit and was not created for profit, so all of our information and materials (including books, videos and podcasts) are provided absolutely free of charge. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. Otherwise, if you particularly want a hard copy, you can purchase them from Amazon or other good bookstores.
Jen
The human condition explained can help us realize how we can continue to use our instincts to create positive change, it is disturbing how we have become so greedy and selfish to not share or want good for all. Hope and knowledge are the power to create the world we wish to live in! Our kids are our future!
Susan M
This is my prayer,that a true understanding of ourselves as a species of love, emerges before we eliminate our selves
WTM Admin
Your prayer has been answered Susan. What is being presented here is the rational, fully accountable, scientific explanation of our psychologically upset condition – the “true understanding of ourselves” – that allows humanity to return to a state of selfless cooperation. At last we can understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. Instead of being focused on power, fame, fortune and glory, all our energies will be freed to truly work together on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering and save our world.
Andy Moorhead
The explanation of the human drive is the interest 1 takes in improving humanity and the quality of life for every human being. If I’m not interested in this..the future of mankind, then what am i doing.
Selfishness has to be selflessness.
Thank You my gentlemen 1st Elons speech then this specch are of the same subject and I could safely say
are heading in the same direction.
What every human is asking what is going to hauppen
WTM Admin
Yes, as Professor Harry Prosen, a former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, and Patron of the WTM, has said, “The fastest growing realization is that humanity cannot go on the way it is going.” However, what is unique about what Jeremy Griffith has done is that he has answered the essential question of why, when the universal ideals are to be integrative are we so disintegrative? Our endeavours in philosophy, psychology and biology have failed, until now, to provide a truthful, real, fully accountable, genuinely clarifying explanation. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents here. Most wonderfully, by explaining the very good reason why our intellect had to defy our instincts (which is that genes can orientate but nerves need to understand) our defensive behaviours of anger, egocentricity and alienation are made redundant, which means we are finally in a position to bring about the Transformation we all want – “Selfishness has to be selflessness”. In Part 4 of THE Interview, Jeremy explains how the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible, actually occurs.
Christine Zimmerman
I enjoyed this interview so much. I will make a point to listen to it again. It makes so much sense, and we truly must understand it fully to change our world as we know it today.
Elizabeth Hart
Amazing just amazing I can’t wait to read the book it’s got to be out of this world you are on to the world’s biggest miracle
Jim Houglan
This concept of ourselves in control of our thoughts includes guilt and the associated shame is not a new responsibility but is the basis of the great expanse of intellect. Why does this interview present it as a new awakening? The responsibility has always been ours to bring clarity. The interviewer asks why have “I not been made aware of this before “. Where has he been?
WTM Admin
There is a bit to take in here Jim. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents here and his book FREEDOM. That is the great breakthrough presented here; see FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ as it explains the unique significance of Jeremy’s work.
Mfon Essang
Jeremy Griffith’s work takes you to an orbital plane where you can see the sunrise of human mistakes and its glorious intent, giving you a bird’s eye vantage view of how we: humans have been struggling with the hues of our biases of colours, class, ethnicity, religion, etc...it takes us to the sunset; our journey’s end, where he analyses the multidimensional impacts on our history and livelihoods in and with an enthralling paradigm shift of knowledge that simply fixed the jigsaw puzzles that has been confusing humans for centuries.
Chris Beck
I’m fascinated. But I still have lots of questions. I’m not so sure our hominid ancestors had such ideal lives , but I get that evolution has certainly shaped our moral sense. Lots of good ideas, and feelings to explore!
WTM Admin
Take your time – keep exploring and digesting it all Chris. With regard to the lives of our ancestors, the bonobos, with their food rich, predator scarce environment, provide a wonderful insight. We recommend chapter 5 of Jeremy Griffith’s defintive book FREEDOM, for more on bonobos as well as fossil evidence into the ‘love indoctrination’ process that shaped the loving, cooperative instinctive self or soul of our hominid ancestors.
Christopher Hansen
Great information
Ruby Bautista
Very excited to hear this valuable info
Athena
I want to see why it’s a breakthrough
WTM Admin
Hi Athena, key to biologist Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is an understanding of the difference between our instincts and intellect, and the effect that difference has had on our behaviour. He explains in THE Interview how the result of the conflict between our instinct and intellect was an undeserved sense of guilt and insecurity that caused us to become psychologically ‘upset’ or selfish, greedy and egocentric. To alleviate this insecurity we have been on a competitive, selfish and aggressive bid for the reinforcement we could gain from winning power, fame, fortune and glory. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict and the guilt it produced, all those selfish and greedy behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition and heal ourselves and our world. It couldn’t be a bigger breakthrough for humanity that is for sure! If you would like to explore this further our FAQs about the human condition and its resolution are most helpful, particular to your question is FAQ 1.6 ‘Why does understanding the human condition solve everything?’
Dr Nosa Ehigie
Very interesting and enlightening
Merel
A Course in Miracles echos everything this author says.
WTM Admin
Hi Merel, what we suggest is the more you absorb this understanding the more you will see the huge and fundamental difference between the two. To solve the human condition required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith has found and which is endorsed by leading scientists and thinkers here on our homepage. So the World Transformation Movement presents the explanation of how the upset state of the human condition came about and the real healing solution to it, whereas the many new age healing type courses and theories out there, like A Course in Miracles, only offer a way of managing it. They don’t deal with the source of the problem nor do they biologically establish our fundamental goodness as a species, which is what Jeremy has done and what we desperately need to save the world, as explained in this important FAQ 6.5.
Debbie Rosas
Ground breaking wisdom
Noor Ali-Cassim
I am proud to have you contributing to the way for us all to improve our lives and be on the path to bring peace and blessings upon us which is very much appreciated and needed.
Kingsley Amayanvbo
It is a great insight into human life
Cristina
Excellent
Fekadu Jotie
Humans are selfish and insatiable. That is why are leading to extinction. This we are learning now after we caused so many damages to our planet.
Jagdish C Gupta
Sorry, found nothing new in this talk!
WTM Admin
Hi Jagdish, certainly there are some thinkers that have recognised that our divisive, competitive and aggressive human condition is a product of a clash between our instincts and intellect, and many others that have simply tried to impose cooperation and selflessness upon us, but actually solving the human condition required finding the clarifying explanation of the nature of that conflict, because only that could bring reconciling and transforming peace to our conflicted and divided selves, which is what biologist Jeremy Griffith has done, and what is unique about his work – see our FAQ 1.13.
Chris Beck
Jeremy Rifkin said something very similar about human nature in his book Declaration Of A Heretic
WTM Admin
Certainly science has brought without all sorts of dangers, but what is being explained here is that the source of all our problems is really our insecure human condition. So to fix the world, we needed to fix ourselves, which is what the ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation does. Importantly, we can now understand that our psychologially upset angry, egocentric and alienated condition was not ‘bad’; quite the opposite – it was our heroic response to our instincts‘ unjust criticism of our experiments in self-management. So attempts to curtail our angry, egocentric and alienated state and impose cooperative behaviour, which it appears is what Rifkin was advocating, have been ’pseudo idealistic‘. Becoming psychologically upset was the price we had to pay for continuing the search for knoweldge. It is only now, with the ’instinct vs intellect' explanation found that humanity can legitimately return to a selfless, cooperative state.
WTM Admin
As it turns out, we are not insatiable. What we only ever wanted was the redeeming understanding of why we destroyed our innocent past. Through finding the good reason that we had to defy our all-loving, but dictatorial, instincts, all our defensive behaviours (our anger, egocentricity and alienation) are now redundant. We no longer need them because we have the real defense for why we had to defy our instincts.
Drew Alvey
Thanks 🙏 The realization gives you another perspective on what is really reality. We’re in a battle within ourselves mentally makes more sense than not.✌️❤️😃
Leslie Caron
Worth following and re-reading.
Rosalie Son Decierdo
well said🥰
thank you for this interview it has taught me a lot 🤩 Jeremy Griffith decoded the human species 🤩😍🥰
continue to spread the truth 🤩
Knowledge is Power 💖🤩
ignorance kills😢😢
Michelle Perry
This is just how our ancestors lived. Indigenous Australia.
WTM Admin
The central tenet of Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that humans have a cooperative, loving instinctive heritage, not a brutish, savage and aggressive one, and that the source of our aggression is a psychosis that has been compounding ever since the instinct and intellect clashed some 2 million years ago. It follows then that the further back in history we go, the less psychologically upset a race of people will be, and so the more cooperative, loving and in touch with the natural world they will be – and we can see evidence of this in existing ‘primitive’ races of people, such as in many indigenous cultures. However, it needs to be born in mind that even indigenous peoples, such as Indigenous Australians, are only relatively innocent compared with other races; they are still members of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, so they are still psychologically upset angry egocentric and alienated.
Emmanuel
Good stuff to hear
Jay Lowell
Calling someone the next Charles Darwin is admitting he is making erroneous assumptions and his theory is incorrect. Darwin’s theory of Macroevolution went out with hoop skirts and mustache wax.
WTM Admin
We suggest you should evaluate Jeremy Griffith’s treatise on its merits. Every concept presented in it is supported by accountable first-principle scientific argument. And you can know that he has at last got to the bottom of the human condition, because the ultimate test of any hypothesis is how accountable it is of our own lives. Once you understand the explanation and begin to apply it, you will discover it is so able to make sense of human behaviour it makes it transparent. This transparency of ourselves and our world — for example, the exposure of all our falseness — that this understanding of the human condition brings, is the ultimate ‘test of experience’ that confirms that the understanding being presented here is the long-sought explanation of the human condition.
Regarding Darwin, we will just mention that as recently as last year, Discovery magazine wrote, “His [Darwin’s] work revolutionized scientific thought and remains largely intact to this day.”
S. Mila G. Ortega RVM
So interesting down to earth explanation. It has brought healing to our wounded world.
Luke Misha
This is amazingly a new chapter
Knut
Thank you for providing this invaluable insight.
Dottie Henson
This information is idealistic and struck my interest immensely.
WTM Admin
Hi Dottie, what is so extraordinary about Jeremy Griffith’s instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition is that it explains the real reason for why humans’ competitive behaviour became an unavoidable, indeed necessary, part of human life. Rather than being idealistic, it is actually a defence of reality! That is why it is so powerful: it actually allows us all to reconcile the selfish madness of the world, and in ourselves, with ideality. And by explaining the very good reason why our intellect had to defy our instincts, it makes redundant our defensive behaviours of anger, egocentricity and alienation, which is what makes it totally different to pseudo idealistic demands that we all just behave cooperatively.
Eleonora Eubel
Saludos (regards) from Argentina! And thank you for such a gift!
Janeth Cameron
It’s fascinating to learn about the human condition.
Dave Crevier
Best 👌 explanation of Marxist ideology l have ever heard.
WTM Admin
Thank you Dave. Yes, we can now understand that Marxism was pseudo-idealistic, and actually hampered the all important search to find knowledge. We recommend Jeremy Griffith’s book Death by Dogma, which is freely available on our homepage. It sets out clearly the biological reason for why left-wing ideology is so dangerous. It also summarises the whole history of pseudo idealism going back to when the upset state of the human condition first emerged some 2 million years ago. In it Jeremy emphasises that while it is easy to identify with the ideal of everyone being cooperative and loving, the whole objective of the human journey was, as mentioned, to find understanding of why humans have not been cooperative and loving and instead so divisively competitive and aggressive. That is the great riddle of the human condition that had to be explained, and what is finally revealed with Jeremy’s biological explanation is that there has been an all-important, good reason for that divisive behaviour. It’s always been easy to side with idealism and denigrate realism, but the left wing’s insistence on ideal behaviour had the effect of oppressing and thus regressing, not ‘progressing’, the all-important search for knowledge. Now at last we can understand the real world humans have been living in where we have had to be competitive, aggressive and selfish, and, most wonderfully of all, by revealing that reason, ending the need for that divisive behaviour.
Brenda
Very enlightening
chrisde10
More plz!
WTM Admin
The WTM’s homepage—HumanCondition.com—provides a guide to ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ which recommends the steps to learn more and get involved—and it is all free! This includes joining our popular WTM Community Facebook Group and registering for free, weekly emails which serve as a wonderfully comprehensive course as it guides you through much of the content of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM in beautifully illustrated bite-size pieces.
Sakimi Saverio
Awesome wow. It’s so amazing to learn about our human behavior etc.
Christina Goss
I am interested in any more you can plainly tell me re. all inventions? Or details please before I get too old. ha. Thank you.x
WTM Admin
Christina, even though the instinct vs intellect concept is actually very simple, we humans have lived in such fear and denial of our corrupted condition that we can find it difficult to ‘hear’ or take in discussion of it. For people new to this concept, we recommend Jeremy’s recent presentation The Great Guilt, which explains this ‘Deaf Effect’ in depth. If you want a good quick summary, we recommend FAQ 1.3, in which it is explained that, “Essentially, when we humans developed a conscious mind some 2 million years ago, a battle unavoidably developed between it and our already established cooperative instincts. The result of this conflict between our instinct and intellect was that we became psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric – the upset state we refer to as the human condition. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition.”
Tammy Fleming
How can I get the book?
WTM Admin
Hi Tammy. You can immediately access a copy at the top of our homepage just under THE Interview! You will see an image of FREEDOM with the text ‘Free Copy’ so click on that to access your free electronic copy to read, listen to or download. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. If you are particularly after a hardcopy of Jeremy Griffith’s books they are available to purchase from Amazon and other good bookstores.
Reginald
I love to learn new things.
Betty Gallon
You stated that Adam and Eve were evil. Gen.3 and22, God said " the man is as us to know good and evil. If we are train to love one another that might change some of this anger man has. Rev. 21 speaks of dark days to come. There are some who dream of a world of peace and happiness and love is in the air and all is well and yet, we wait. I enjoyed your findings and life.Thk you.
WTM Admin
Thank you Betty. Yes, what Jeremy Griffith presents actually reconciles science and religion by scientifically explaining and demystifying pre-scientific concepts. For example, Part 2 of THE Interview explains how the story of Adam and Eve is a pre-scientific metaphor for the emergence of consciousness and its clash with our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts, resulting in humans becoming psychologically upset or ‘sinful’. Yes, there have been “dark days” aplenty since the emergence of the human condition some 2 million years ago, and with it our ‘good and evil’ stricken condition, but with the redeeming, reconciling understanding found, the sunlight of healing understanding can now stream in!
Frankie
This has been the most productive hour of my entire existance. The content honestly rang through so hard that I felt as though I knew in my core that it is all true. Pass the coolaid I am absolutely hooked, I look forward to watching this again and again and going threw the rabbit hole. This is the only way for humanity to have any longevity.
Oliver Mupila Kameya-HRD
From the beginning after Adam and Eve messed up, now we have a breakthrough to keep man awake.
David Mopeli
Please send me more information. This really is incredible
WTM Admin
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Patricia Saad
I believe that what this biologist has discovered and have revealed about the human condition is very amazing and important in bringing about solving the human condition problems at this day and age for humanity. The world needs this important information to bring about the awareness of the human behavior as a whole. I congratulate this man for this important discovery and I thank him and bless him for this hard work. Now the world will come to understand how humanity behaves the way it does.
Thank you Sir for this your great work.
Ralph
An interesting scientific explanation of what is already explained in Genesis (The bible) - the fall.
I would be interested in his answer to your question “do we all need therapy or something?”, as it is obvious that understanding or human effort alone will not cure our fallen state - I agree with one of your correspondents - we need a saviour :)
WTM Admin
Thanks for your interest Ralph. With regard to your question about whether humanity’s redemption is beyond the capabilities of humansto bring about, and that therefore we need a “saviour”, we would reiterate what we replied to LaVerne, which is that understanding the human condition is the great unlocking point in the human journey of conscious thought and enquiry and its resolution leads, at last, to the real basis for personal and global transformation. Yes, as is explained in THE Interview, it is understanding that is the savior – science’s discovery of the way genes and nerves work has finally made it possible for the liberation of humanity from the horror of the human condition.
We are rational creatures, and so when all the logic points to there being only one response we can make, namely the human-condition-resolved, upset-obsoleted, transformed new way of living, then that is the response the human race has to take. Part 4 of THE Interview, titled ‘How does the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible actually occur?’, presents the answer to how this understanding allows everyone to transform their lives. It explains that it will take a number of generations for the upset within us to be completely healed but it also stresses importantly we can be immediately free of its effects. Certainly there is habituation to overcome and humans do find change difficult but at last we can understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because we have the first principle science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it.
Karmann Kohl
Actually, calming, understandable information and as valuable as platinum. Thank you kindly for the download , I am returning to listen to again.
Frederick Harris
Thanks Again 😊
Evelyn
Amazing
Félix
Wonderfully explained
Melissa
Doesn’t give solutions for free this info should be put out for free in detail in order for world change
WTM Admin
Hi Melissa, the work of the WTM is a scientific pursuit and was not created for profit, so all of the information and materials (including books, videos and podcasts) provided on the website are absolutely free of charge (with no email required to access everything), and that also applies to our mailing list, if you would like to receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events.
George gomes
Informative
Dennis Amachree
Just great
Rob McKean
Buddhism is a similar explanation of the human condition .
WTM Admin
While Buddhism and other religions contain all manner of truths about human life, it is all from a pre-scientific view. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. We suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ which explains the unique significance of Jeremy Griffith’s work.
Sarah Honey-Knights
This is interesting
Diego 0.Frano
This is my Jonathan Livingston Seagull in my enlightenment journey in the 70s
WTM Admin
Certainly there has been a recognition in literature (and by profound thinkers generally) that there must be something better than our current human condition afflicted state and that someone had to be prepared to stand apart from the crowd in order to find it. However, many people have deluded themselves that this ‘liberated’ state could be achieved through people artificially restraining, sublimating or even transcending their upset, corrupted condition. But the truth is that this state could only be achieved by confronting, truthfully thinking about, and finally explaining and thus solving the human condition at its source, which is what Jeremy Griffith has done. In the end it was only getting to the bottom of the human condition, not transcending it, that could fulfil Richard Bach’s allegorical quest for perfection.
Mary McCullagh
Would like to learn more
WTM Admin
Thank you Mary. Our homepage — HumanCondition.com — provides a wonderful road map to progress with all our key material made freely available and you can register for our free weekly emails presenting this immensely relieving understanding in bite-size portions! Also our Facebook Group provides a wonderful platform for participating in, or just observing, interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science.
Kady
I really appreciate your knowledge, I thought I was the only one that thought like this. Its really good to know that I am not crazy. This all makes sense, so much so I am smiling. I have just never known how to start trying to explain myself . Thank you so much. Kady
Juana Lino
Enlightening as it revealed Spiritual aspects joined with science and humans' commonsense perspectives of critical thinking.
WTM Admin
Yes, in hindsight, it all just seems so simple and common sense! But while the fundamental explanation is very simple, the very nature of the human condition means explanation of it can be initially difficult to access as it has been the most terrifying of subjects to face because it is the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad as a species, and we have necessarily lived in almost total denial of it.
And you are right, it does reconcile the scientific and the spiritual. Although what is being presented is rational, fully accountable science, it recognises, like all the great religions do, that we humans once lived in a pre-human-condition-afflicted state of original innocence where we were perfectly instinctively orientated to the cooperative, selfless, loving, ‘Godly’ ideals of life; ‘God’ being explained in as being the integrative meaning of life. The more that people digest this explanation, the more they see that it does not rob life or explanations of life of its ‘spiritual’ dimension. People might be interested in reading our FAQ 6.7 ‘How can a scientific explanation ever hope to account for and encompass the great ‘spiritual’ dimension we know exists in life? / Isn’t ‘spirituality’ beyond a purely rational explanation?’
Gerry Sengi
If all humans fully grasp this fundamental truth this world will become a better place.
LaVerne Dewey
Humans by themselves will never achieve that, we need a savior.
WTM Admin
No, we disagree. Understanding the human condition is the great unlocking point in the human journey of conscious thought and enquiry and its resolution leads, at last, to the real basis for personal and global transformation. Focusing on, and putting your faith in an individual, a “savior”, helped people transcend their upset state, but the obvious truth is we needed to resolve it at its source and that is the great breakthrough Jeremy’s work presents. We are thinking beings, we need brain food not brain anaesthetic; we needed answers for our conscious thinking mind, without that all else is ultimately futile. As people are becoming aware of this understanding and how it fixes all the problems in the world, they are starting to get more and more excited, and that is a wave that will sweep the world. You can see from the excitement and relief in our ecstatic responses to THE Interview that we are well on our way! Yes, as is explained in THE Interview, it is understanding that is the savior – science’s discovery of the way genes and nerves work has finally made it possible for the liberation of humanity from the horror of the human condition, and people are cottoning on to that. As Jeremy Griffith says, “Yes, that is the essential truth: science is the liberator, the so-called ‘messiah’ or ‘redeemer’ of humankind, as we always hoped it would be!”
Derrick
Rather interesting to say the least
James Calvin Brewster
Wouldn’t it be amazing if this is “the answer” to everything, to have peace and tranquility on earth. Couldn’t be anything wrong with looking into this, and I’ve so many questions. Of course, I’m naturally waiting for the catch to pay to find out the answers to my now new questions. But in good faith and with an open mind...“Lets go brother” quoting Casual Wardog
WTM Admin
Thank you very much for your comment James and your good faith and open mind will not be disappointed. Firstly everything is completely free of charge, there is absolutely no cost involved as this is a scientific pursuit and was not created for profit, see FAQ 3.1 ‘What is the World Transformation Movement?’ Secondly, as our FAQ 1.9 ‘Should people be sceptical’ explains, the absolutely astonishing claims made about Jeremy Griffith’s treatise, such as Professor Harry Prosen (former president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association) saying “I have no doubt Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race”, all withstand scrutiny. A person can begin reading the explanation and the more they read into it the more they will realise the claims are actually true, and in time become deeply appreciated for their forthright honesty in indicating where the solution to our problems lies.
Adrian Gainey
Very thoughtful. A lot of hours of work went into this thought provoking book. It has shed light on this mystical phenomenon. We as the human race should make this book a must read for society. As a marketer by listening to Professor Griffith I can truly say “I have seen the light”.
Christine dreyer
He is a great man I love listening to him
Richard Blackman
curious!
Ann
This needs to be listened to more than once to fully grasp. I love the implications here.
WTM Admin
Yes Ann, as the interviewer Craig Conway observes, the fundamental genes vs nerves argument is very simple but is “so far-reaching in its ramifications” so re-watching THE Interview is exactly the way to fully grasp all that flows from the explanation. Also, as we suggest HERE our homepage, after watching THE Interview we recommend you watch The Great Guilt video that explains the difficulty of the ‘Deaf Effect’ that reading about the human condition initially causes, and then The Great Transformation video about how understanding the human condition actually transforms the human race. As Craig goes on to say “...I mean it is world-changing is what it is, because it truly enables ‘the psychological rehabilitation of the human race’! I mean that is just wonderful.” Also subscribing to our free mail list and joining our popular Facebook Group are other great ways to learn more about how all-encompassing this explanation is.
Jimmi Esspirit
The hardest question
WTM Admin
Thank you for your perceptive comment Jimmi. The question of the human condition has been the hardest because it asks are we fundamentally good or bad. So the human condition has been the most important, but also the most fearful, of subjects. The most wonderful news is now that question is answered, as it is in THE Interview, the subject becomes safe and not just safe but gloriously freeing of our mind and soul! We no longer have to live in denial and fear of this subject, and in Part 4 Jeremy Griffith discusses just how liberating this knowledge is: “being finally able to understand that we are good and not bad is what brings us the greatest psychological relief of all…at last we can…reconcile and heal our split selves.”
peter
Very informative.
Theress
I watched the interview and am ordering the book. My son, 33, is experiencing in real time the effect of the conditioning of the human mind. He’s a very smart, analytical and deep thinker and is suffering from this very thing. He’s searching for an understanding and acceptance of his conflicting thoughts that are completely working against his instincts, which are very strong as well. His inner critic is in charge and he needs the answer to why he has always had this struggle that’s brought him to his knees. Hopefully this will penetrate his mind and reach his soul 🙏
WTM Admin
Oh that is wonderful you want to help your son with this understanding Theress as it does bring such relief to all our troubled minds because it resolves the source of the conflict between our instincts and intellect and stops the “inner critic” as you so well decribe the effect of the struggle. To quote Jeremy Griffith from Part 4 in THE Interview: “Well, what this real—and actually very obvious—instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition fundamentally does is lift the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race. It establishes that we humans are good and not bad after all. While we are all inevitably variously angry, egocentric and alienated from our different encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, ultimately self-knowledge, understanding of our corrupted condition, we can now know that every human is fundamentally good. And this ability to understand and know there was a good reason why the human race became psychologically upset, is the key, relieving understanding we have been in search of ever since we became conscious some 2 million years ago and our corrupted condition emerged. That is the key relief for our mind—being finally able to understand that we are good and not bad is what brings us the greatest psychological relief of all.”
We highly recommend you and your son also watch the companion presentation to THE Interview titled The Great Guilt. It is an astonishingly beautiful and revealing presentation that takes you back to when the human condition first emerged in humans and comprehensively explains the shame and guilt we have felt for having corrupted our all-loving and sensitive soul and how this lifts the great burden of guilt from the human race! You can access it HERE on our website. We also wanted to mention all of Jeremy’s books, including THE Interview and his main book FREEDOM, are freely available HERE on our website.
Chika Costa Jr
Remedial insights. Wonderful 👌
John Kaitara
So right,I totally agree with you
I have the same way of thinking as you.Now it’s a matter of educating the population of the world to learn and clause this theory.
WTM Admin
Great to have your interest John! As THE Interview explains, despite our competitive and selfish behaviour we have always intuitively believed we were fundamentally good, but we have never been able to explain our contradictory, conflicted condition — until now. Using first principle-based biology, Jeremy Griffith explains that only understanding why the intellect had to defy our cooperative ‘good’ instincts and become psychologically upset, or ‘bad’, could we resolve our species’ psychosis. Having the conflict between our instincts and intellect explained is all-important because it is only this clarifying, redeeming and reconciling explanation of the nature of the struggle between our instinctive self and conscious self that at last brings peace to our divided selves, and transforms the human race, see FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this idea original or new?’. In terms of how this knowledge will spread and educate the world as with any new scientific breakthrough in history it may take time for people to realise this is what it says it is but once this catches on — through people recognising the importance of it — the infectious enthusiasm and selfless love it liberates will spread like wildfire, see FAQ 1.40 ‘How can you hope to transform the world?’.
Tonata Shiimi
Great interview indeed. Need more of this insight in programs.
Kathy Reed
Excited to hear what he has to say as I feel our country is in terrible danger. Things keep getting worse.
WTM Admin
It’s great you are going to watch THE Interview Kathy as yes the world is fast reaching its 11th hour and we need answers urgently and thankfully, at last, we have them with this resolution of the human condition! As Jeremy Griffith says in this interview: “We humans have absolutely lived in hope, faith and trust that one day, somewhere, some place, all the efforts of everyone—but of scientists in particular—would finally produce the completely redeeming, uplifting and healing understanding of us humans. I know it must seem outrageous to claim that this goal of goals has finally been achieved, but it has. In fact, the human condition is such a difficult subject for us humans to confront and deal with that I couldn’t be talking about it so openly and freely if it hadn’t been solved.” Our FAQ 1.6 summarises how understanding the human condition solves everything!
Gladys Remi Thomas
This is a great eye opener, awakening of the consciousness up until now unknown to mankind
Geoff
An eye opener...
Richard Thorstensen
🌈🌈🌈 very different…
Bime Jude fonsibam
I am deeply impressed with the information you guys are sharing
Richard Westmoreland
I have been obsessed with the psychological trait Machiavellianism. It’s come to be synonymous with evil. Of course, all people vary in levels of Machiavellianism, but while i was watching the video i just realized that machiavellianism can now be seen as a sort of “fanaticism” for the lie concerning the human condition. The more dedicated you are to the lie, the higher the Machiavellianism. Low Machiavellian people are those who have been improving the world in spite of the lie. This is supported in all the work done on Inequity Aversion in primates and a few other animals. I think The Stone Age Present even touched on this (Allman). We spent the majority of our existance living in this “egalitarian” lifestyle. So now, people with empathy (low machs) feel a strong sense of Inequity in our society and are driven to correct it. The high-machs say the world isn’t fair. The low machs say the world is what we make it. Good work.
WTM Admin
While the understanding of the human condition makes the “lie” (which is essentially living a psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated life) visible, this understanding also enables us to at last understand that the “lie” has been necessary, and actually heroic. It was what enabled humanity to continue with the corrupting journey to find knowledge, ulimately self-knowledge, understanding of the human condition. Certainly we have come from an innocent and cooperative, “egalatarian” past, where “inequity” was an anathema, however competition and materialism have been necessary. As THE Interview explains, freedom of thought and individualism, sustained by the incentives of materialism and capitalism which right-wing constitutions uphold, are what maintained humanity’s heroic search for knowledge.
To assist with understanding this analysis, we suggest looking at Jeremy’s short booklet Death by Dogma because it sets out clearly the biological reason why trying to enforce cooperative behaviour have been so dangerous. It summarises the whole history of ‘pseudo idealism’ going back to when the upset state of the human condition first emerged some 2 million years ago. In it Jeremy emphasises that while it is easy to identify with the ideal of everyone being cooperative and loving, the whole objective of the human journey was, as mentioned, to find understanding of why humans have not been cooperative and loving and instead so divisively competitive and aggressive. That is the great riddle of the human condition that had to be explained, and what is finally revealed with Jeremy’s biological explanation is that there has been an all-important, good reason for that divisive behaviour. It’s always been easy to side with idealism and denigrate realism, but now at last we can understand the real world humans have been living in where we have had to be competitive, aggressive and selfish, and, most wonderfully of all, by revealing that reason, ending the need for that divisive behaviour.
Jimmy Masagca
Excellent
Rex Horoi
I want to know more about the Movement, can you please who is behind this movement and the clarity of its purpose.
WTM Admin
The WTM is a global not-for-profit movement supported by the efforts of members and supporters from around the world. As explained in our FAQ 3.1, “Founded in Sydney in 1983, the WTM is a global not-for-profit movement dedicated to transforming the individual, the human race and thus our world through bringing psychologically relieving biological understanding to the underlying problem in all human affairs of the human condition, humans’ extraordinary capacity for what has been referred to as ‘good and evil’...The WTM works tirelessly to promote this explanation of the human condition to ensure its now desperately needed psychologically liberating and transforming effects reach every human. Indeed, it is called the World Transformation Movement because the most marvellous effect of having understanding of the human condition is that all our species’ psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated behaviour can now, immediately, be put aside, and eventually, over a few generations, completely disappear, thus bringing about the complete rehabilitation and transformation of the human race and thus of our planet.”
Tiroyamodimo Baruntshi
Wow 👏👏 👏 👏, exactly what the world has been waiting for
Howard Ferguson
Is this immortality?
WTM Admin
Solving the human condition will certainly remove our fear of death. As Jeremy explains in Part 5.2 of Freedom Expanded Book 1, “When we were innocent we were so in tune with everything around us and so happy inside and so alive that death was not an issue. Death is only an issue when we live a wretched life, where we become so selfish that it matters if we die or not. Fear of death is a product of selfishness, which in turn is a product of alienation, which in turn is the loss of the generosity and meaning we once had before we became upset.” With the human condition solved and future humans no longer at odds with our all-loving instinctive self or soul, which we can now understand is in complete harmony with Integrative Meaning (see Freedom Essay 23), which is the theme of the universe, it follows that they will be in harmony with the universe. Plato in his dialogue Phaedo described our all-loving soul, writing that humans have “knowledge, both before and at the moment of birth…of all absolute standards…[of] beauty, goodness, uprightness, holiness…our souls exist before our birth”, describing “the soul” as “the pure and everlasting and immortal and changeless…realm of the absolute…[our] soul resembles the divine [God]”.
Martin frendo
Finally a simple realistic chance to really wake up to reality and fix what we broken
Jack Cheah
Excellent interview!
Mitzi
Out of this world info.
Barbara OHagan
What is this Human Condition?
WTM Admin
In THE Interview, biologist Jeremy Griffith explains the major question facing our species, and each of us in our lives is our psychologically troubled ‘good and evil’ stricken so-called human condition; and more particularly, our inability to answer the question of why we humans are the way we are, so brutally competitive, selfish and aggressive that human life has become all but unbearable.
In FAQ 1.1 this stricken state is explained in detail: "It is not uncommon for people to think that the term ‘human condition’ refers to the state of poverty and inequality and other practical hardships and imperfections in human life, but such problems are only superficial manifestations and aspects of the human condition. Much less superficial interpretations of what the term human condition means are that it refers to ‘the riddle of why we humans are competitive and selfish not cooperative and loving’, and ‘the issue of good and evil in our make-up’, and even, ‘the issue of why we are the way we are’. However, the human condition is actually a much, much deeper issue than even these last interpretations.
As I explained in THE Interview and in all my other presentations, we humans once lived in a nurtured-with-unconditional-love, cooperative, selfless and loving innocent state...If we stand back and think about this original cooperative, selfless and loving state and then think about how competitive, selfish and aggressive we humans are now, the contrast between the two states couldn’t be greater. And if we think about that extreme contrast and then think about the situation we have been stuck in for some 2 million years where we haven’t been able to explain our so-called ‘fall from grace’, the corruption of our original all-sensitive and all-loving, innocent instinctive self or soul, then how deeply traumatised with guilt and shame must we humans have been all that time! Certainly, we learnt to block the horror of this situation out of our mind, but that has been the underlying psychological predicament we humans have been enduring. So having had to live with this insufferable, unbearably depressing guilt and shame for having destroyed the magic world of our soul is what the human condition really is!"
Charles Arungwa
The role of religion which moderated our behavior is not fully explained
WTM Admin
It needs to be born in mind that THE Interview is only an introductory text. In Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM (see chapter 8:15) it is explained that religions have provided humanity with incredible guidance, comfort and love under the duress of the human condition. Ultimately however, to resolve and liberate ourselves from our conflicted human condition our conscious brain needed to understand why when the universal ideals of life are to be loving and cooperative are we also so hateful and competitive. To do this required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great breakthrough that biologist Jeremy Griffith has found. Whereas religions were a means of managing our condition, with this knowledge we can at last advance the human race from a human-condition afflicted state to a state completely free of that terrible affliction. You might like to explore our FAQs about religion.
Stan
I instinctively always thought this to be true
Judy
I am convinced, mankind can no longer live in this environment.
Dolores marisa Funaro
Finally, an explained answer
I can’t believe in this day and age that the mass of humans still think that war is plausible
I’m so relieved that you found the words no one else could. All my life I felt this?
WTM Admin
Certainly, as Professor Harry Prosen, a former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, and Patron on the WTM wrote, “the fastest growing realization everywhere is that humanity can’t go on the way it is going.” However, until the redeeming and reconciling explanation of the human condition was found, humanity had no other option but to continue the upsetting search to find self-understanding, with the result that we became ever more psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated, to the point that we have now reached, where the world is at end play. Finally, as you say, we have found the answer that means all that madness and violence can end!
Osiki Samson
This will help the world in understanding peace
Terrylambert
Amen so true must search and seek I love this so right
Mary Maesilia
So interested because I believe this is true
S. L. Johnson
Superb resolution. Clear resolution regarding wider view than most other statements attempt re: Human Condition.
Jill Wellbeloved
A really mind blowing theory that needs much thought. Thank you.
Chelsea
By understanding my own vision development as a cell biologist researcher and a neuro optometric rehabilitation vision specialist as clinician. I can help people understand how patient see the world and behavior. Optometrists hold the critical key to understand and treat behavior problems or mental illnesses through vision and field rehabilitation. what he said is very true. But our vision only see 5% consciously but 95% subconsciously. A lot of our behavior is originated from unconscious or subconscious mind. That is why we can not understand properly. The functional vision field that optometrist can test is critical to understand a lot of human behavior. And the aggressive and selfish behavior are survival mechanisms. Sympathetic nerve system is up regularated in our toxic society and primive reflex resurface after trauma or never have been integrated in a lot of people.
WTM Admin
Thank you for your comment Chelsea. Your experience dealing with eyesight has certainly provided you with a wonderful metaphor for the truth that “a lot of our behaviour is originated from unconscious or subconscious mind”. However, what we can now understand is that it is not correct that our “aggressive and selfish behavior are survival mechanisms”, or that the cause of our behaviour is our “toxic society” which has caused “trauma” that has thrown our “sympathetic nerve system” into a heightened state, although this is certainly a symptom of the problem.
In this presentation biologist Jeremy Griffith explains our selfish and aggressive behaviour is the result of a psychosis caused by humanity’s heroic, but corrupting, search for knowledge. Further it is explained that all humans are born with an all-loving, cooperative instinctive self or soul which is the very sensitive, pure and true moral part of ourselves. In order to find knowledge we had to defy our cooperation-demanding instincts which resulted in us becoming psychologically upset or angry, egocentric and alienated from this all-knowing but not-understanding world of the soul, which we suppressed to our subconscious. In biological terms, our naturally selected instinctive orientations were in effect intolerant of our emerging intellect’s need to experiment with different behaviours in order to find understanding, which resulted in us becoming psychologically upset or angry, alienated and egocentric. Most importantly, this psychosis can be healed with understanding as is illustrated and evidence on our Transformation page!
Alan Tipper
The video presentations told me how to focus on my compassion and end my fears by the new truth. Let the battle begin with the ‘deaf’.
Laura Lucas
Makes sense. I was a pastor’s wife. Divorce caused me to dig in ways I would not have otherwise. Mass confusion exists in our churches. I’m leaning to this and knowing thyself.
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Comments on THE Interview
Since THE Interview between Craig Conway and Jeremy Griffith first aired in 2020, tens of thousands of viewers have commented on it on HumanCondition.com — this is an archive of all those comments, including helpful responses from our team.
This is page 108 of 180 (pages run from the oldest comments to the latest).
The Comments below were made between May 9, 2024 and May 24, 2024.
I found the interview amazing and it helped me
Great wisdom
I want to learn!
Hi Neil, THE Interview is the ideal introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition. From there, at top of our homepage HumanCondition.com, it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes subscribing to our mailing list where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. We are a not-for-profit organisation and make all our material and publications free to read online, watch, listen to and even download and print!
Mind blowing....
Thank you so much for your wisdom we are blessed to listen and learn for this / always be humble and thank you.
Powerful
FREEDOM I am excited to hear more.
Humanity has been conditioned for millenia by the powers that be in religions and governments and banking and politics and so forth to be stupid and subservient to them for their nefarious agendas, then we have a problem with the human condition. It starts with them. We are not the problem. They are.
Nina, being able to understand the human condition, we can now see that everyone has suffered from it, and all our institutions, including governments, have been a manifestation of our insecure, psychologically upset condition. As distinguished psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen (who wrote the Introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM) said: “What Griffith is presenting is understanding of the source insecurity that the whole human race suffers from for having destroyed our species’ innocent soul. It is a universal self-blame that his understanding at last provides healing insight into. All human behavior is saturated with that universal insecure, depressing state and resulting anger, egocentricity and alienation that has developed from it, but we finally have the compassionate foundation insight needed to dismantle all that ‘upset’/psychosis. So the real psychotherapy of our collective and individual psychoses can begin” (see FAQ 1.34). Only solving the human condition can stop the disintegration of society and the destruction of our world that is happening everywhere we look.
It’s really fascinating and every human being should be concerned about the development of a new Science. It’s amazing as our collective survival is in question.
I just saw it and ima take it
Thanks for sharing……, so informative
I have watched this video more than two times. It is so profound an explanation on our instinct and our conscious intellect. I am from Africa, Ethiopia with almost no access to have this book but, with such enthusiasm to read if someone could help me to have access it for more deeper understanding of the subject.❤️❤️❤️
Thanks very much for the feedback Mulu. Jeremy Griffith’s key books, including THE Interview and FREEDOM, are freely available on our homepage here to read online, print and download. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. Amazon also sell and ship hardcopies to most places around the world.You might also be interested in seeing our African WTM Centres, which you can find on our WTM Centres page.I love to hear more of this.
Thank you Marty. Our homepage — HumanCondition.com — provides a wonderful road map to progress with all our key material made freely available and you can register for free weekly emails about this immensely relieving understanding. Also our Facebook Group provides a wonderful platform for participating in, or just observing, interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science.
Wow what an amazing interview, Jeremy is a very clever man and this explanation and the science behind it could change the world. Could stop global warming, wars, all the bad in the world if the world would listen. You now have to merge with right people that the masses might listen to and a way to still have a money system that works for the people like the macroeconomic theory and then work out how to bring this in to society so the people with more right now don’t feel like there being robbed of what they have showing these traits we have developed and stopping this amazing thing from happening
It is wonderful the fundamental argument is resonating with you Dan. What is so extraordinary about this breakthrough is we can now understand the fundamental reason why people want more than they need; we can now understand the source of greed and competition and the need for power. When the conscious mind went in search of knowledge a conflict between our instinct and intellect broke out, leading to an undeserved sense of guilt and insecurity that caused us to become psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric, the upset state we refer to as the human condition—a state we sought to alleviate through a competitive, selfish and aggressive bid for the reinforcement we could gain from winning power, fame, fortune and glory. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict and the guilt it produced, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition. No other approach could bring about a fundamental change in our situation because no other approach dealt with the fundamental issue of the source of our destructive behaviour, and so money and other artificial sources of reinforcement remained necessary. Importantly, this will all happen naturally, nothing will be forced on anyone. Basically, we suggest that so exciting and relieving is this breakthrough, and the freedom from the human condition that is now on offer, that everyone will want it, and so it will catch on like wildfire and this is already happening.You might like to look at our FAQ 1.40 ‘Aren’t the problems of the world too overwhelming to ever be fixed? / Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’. It is explained there that even those who are most committed to seeking validation through gaining power and wealth, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, biological explanation of the human condition that establishes our worth at the most fundamental level.Been interested in science since I was a kid, now I’ma senior citizen, just an average or common person yet still wanting, eagered learning, and shared my ownself understanding for what I’ve learened and shared those to them (to my brothers and sisters) that might help releasing those fears, silently suffocating feelings inside of their chests and thoughts that they don’t matters and not being heared those confusions that anyone will be losing hopes and ne a better person. And I honestly became so exhausted mentally and physically yesterday after some few individuals treated me so unkindly and judging me, whom I only my intention was, a simple messaged sharing my own expression of kindness deeds to others for us living peacefully here on earth. I don’t consider myself religious. Although I have my wholeheartedly deep faith in God. And just probably I’ve have (deep spiritually connection to the universe ***even I’m not a scientist *** as well to our nature and to music), and back to my main topic, after I intended discontinued listening to this gentleman, I closed my eyes, deep breath and blow my breath away . And prayed for guidance to maintains my clean positive thoughts inside of me and asked help to Holy Spirit. I believe in my heart that miracles exist, when I found this page in Facebook. It’s enlightening, very informative explanations to my curiosity and for myself to be being educated to the amazing fact of reality. Only my 1 wish, was for my late husband to be by my side when I’m watching this incredible shared knowledge of Mr. Jeremy Griffith it’s been answered and I could imagine my late husband’s huge smile in his face, we usually both enjoyed watching together about science and animal shows . May I know if where can I purchace the copy of the book. Please send it to my email. I will appreciate it much. And my sincere gratitude for sharing with us for this most amazing awaited closure about us as simple words H-U-M-A-N-S.
Thanks very much Eden, this really is the understanding that we have all yearned for! We will email you with details about getting a copy of Jeremy’s book FREEDOM, but for those reading here, the book is free to read online or download HERE on our homepage with no email registration required. The work of the WTM is a scientific pursuit and was not created for profit, so all of our information and materials (including books, videos and podcasts) are provided absolutely free of charge. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. Otherwise, if you particularly want a hard copy, you can purchase them from Amazon or other good bookstores.
The human condition explained can help us realize how we can continue to use our instincts to create positive change, it is disturbing how we have become so greedy and selfish to not share or want good for all. Hope and knowledge are the power to create the world we wish to live in! Our kids are our future!
This is my prayer,that a true understanding of ourselves as a species of love, emerges before we eliminate our selves
Your prayer has been answered Susan. What is being presented here is the rational, fully accountable, scientific explanation of our psychologically upset condition – the “true understanding of ourselves” – that allows humanity to return to a state of selfless cooperation. At last we can understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. Instead of being focused on power, fame, fortune and glory, all our energies will be freed to truly work together on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering and save our world.
The explanation of the human drive is the interest 1 takes in improving humanity and the quality of life for every human being. If I’m not interested in this..the future of mankind, then what am i doing. Selfishness has to be selflessness. Thank You my gentlemen 1st Elons speech then this specch are of the same subject and I could safely say are heading in the same direction. What every human is asking what is going to hauppen
Yes, as Professor Harry Prosen, a former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, and Patron of the WTM, has said, “The fastest growing realization is that humanity cannot go on the way it is going.” However, what is unique about what Jeremy Griffith has done is that he has answered the essential question of why, when the universal ideals are to be integrative are we so disintegrative? Our endeavours in philosophy, psychology and biology have failed, until now, to provide a truthful, real, fully accountable, genuinely clarifying explanation. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents here. Most wonderfully, by explaining the very good reason why our intellect had to defy our instincts (which is that genes can orientate but nerves need to understand) our defensive behaviours of anger, egocentricity and alienation are made redundant, which means we are finally in a position to bring about the Transformation we all want – “Selfishness has to be selflessness”. In Part 4 of THE Interview, Jeremy explains how the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible, actually occurs.
I enjoyed this interview so much. I will make a point to listen to it again. It makes so much sense, and we truly must understand it fully to change our world as we know it today.
Amazing just amazing I can’t wait to read the book it’s got to be out of this world you are on to the world’s biggest miracle
This concept of ourselves in control of our thoughts includes guilt and the associated shame is not a new responsibility but is the basis of the great expanse of intellect. Why does this interview present it as a new awakening? The responsibility has always been ours to bring clarity. The interviewer asks why have “I not been made aware of this before “. Where has he been?
There is a bit to take in here Jim. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents here and his book FREEDOM. That is the great breakthrough presented here; see FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ as it explains the unique significance of Jeremy’s work.
Jeremy Griffith’s work takes you to an orbital plane where you can see the sunrise of human mistakes and its glorious intent, giving you a bird’s eye vantage view of how we: humans have been struggling with the hues of our biases of colours, class, ethnicity, religion, etc...it takes us to the sunset; our journey’s end, where he analyses the multidimensional impacts on our history and livelihoods in and with an enthralling paradigm shift of knowledge that simply fixed the jigsaw puzzles that has been confusing humans for centuries.
I’m fascinated. But I still have lots of questions. I’m not so sure our hominid ancestors had such ideal lives , but I get that evolution has certainly shaped our moral sense. Lots of good ideas, and feelings to explore!
Take your time – keep exploring and digesting it all Chris. With regard to the lives of our ancestors, the bonobos, with their food rich, predator scarce environment, provide a wonderful insight. We recommend chapter 5 of Jeremy Griffith’s defintive book FREEDOM, for more on bonobos as well as fossil evidence into the ‘love indoctrination’ process that shaped the loving, cooperative instinctive self or soul of our hominid ancestors.
Great information
Very excited to hear this valuable info
I want to see why it’s a breakthrough
Hi Athena, key to biologist Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is an understanding of the difference between our instincts and intellect, and the effect that difference has had on our behaviour. He explains in THE Interview how the result of the conflict between our instinct and intellect was an undeserved sense of guilt and insecurity that caused us to become psychologically ‘upset’ or selfish, greedy and egocentric. To alleviate this insecurity we have been on a competitive, selfish and aggressive bid for the reinforcement we could gain from winning power, fame, fortune and glory. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict and the guilt it produced, all those selfish and greedy behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition and heal ourselves and our world. It couldn’t be a bigger breakthrough for humanity that is for sure! If you would like to explore this further our FAQs about the human condition and its resolution are most helpful, particular to your question is FAQ 1.6 ‘Why does understanding the human condition solve everything?’
Very interesting and enlightening
A Course in Miracles echos everything this author says.
Hi Merel, what we suggest is the more you absorb this understanding the more you will see the huge and fundamental difference between the two. To solve the human condition required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith has found and which is endorsed by leading scientists and thinkers here on our homepage. So the World Transformation Movement presents the explanation of how the upset state of the human condition came about and the real healing solution to it, whereas the many new age healing type courses and theories out there, like A Course in Miracles, only offer a way of managing it. They don’t deal with the source of the problem nor do they biologically establish our fundamental goodness as a species, which is what Jeremy has done and what we desperately need to save the world, as explained in this important FAQ 6.5.
Ground breaking wisdom
I am proud to have you contributing to the way for us all to improve our lives and be on the path to bring peace and blessings upon us which is very much appreciated and needed.
It is a great insight into human life
Excellent
Humans are selfish and insatiable. That is why are leading to extinction. This we are learning now after we caused so many damages to our planet.
Sorry, found nothing new in this talk!
Hi Jagdish, certainly there are some thinkers that have recognised that our divisive, competitive and aggressive human condition is a product of a clash between our instincts and intellect, and many others that have simply tried to impose cooperation and selflessness upon us, but actually solving the human condition required finding the clarifying explanation of the nature of that conflict, because only that could bring reconciling and transforming peace to our conflicted and divided selves, which is what biologist Jeremy Griffith has done, and what is unique about his work – see our FAQ 1.13.
Jeremy Rifkin said something very similar about human nature in his book Declaration Of A Heretic
Certainly science has brought without all sorts of dangers, but what is being explained here is that the source of all our problems is really our insecure human condition. So to fix the world, we needed to fix ourselves, which is what the ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation does. Importantly, we can now understand that our psychologially upset angry, egocentric and alienated condition was not ‘bad’; quite the opposite – it was our heroic response to our instincts‘ unjust criticism of our experiments in self-management. So attempts to curtail our angry, egocentric and alienated state and impose cooperative behaviour, which it appears is what Rifkin was advocating, have been ’pseudo idealistic‘. Becoming psychologically upset was the price we had to pay for continuing the search for knoweldge. It is only now, with the ’instinct vs intellect' explanation found that humanity can legitimately return to a selfless, cooperative state.
As it turns out, we are not insatiable. What we only ever wanted was the redeeming understanding of why we destroyed our innocent past. Through finding the good reason that we had to defy our all-loving, but dictatorial, instincts, all our defensive behaviours (our anger, egocentricity and alienation) are now redundant. We no longer need them because we have the real defense for why we had to defy our instincts.
Thanks 🙏 The realization gives you another perspective on what is really reality. We’re in a battle within ourselves mentally makes more sense than not.✌️❤️😃
Worth following and re-reading.
well said🥰 thank you for this interview it has taught me a lot 🤩 Jeremy Griffith decoded the human species 🤩😍🥰 continue to spread the truth 🤩 Knowledge is Power 💖🤩 ignorance kills😢😢
This is just how our ancestors lived. Indigenous Australia.
The central tenet of Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that humans have a cooperative, loving instinctive heritage, not a brutish, savage and aggressive one, and that the source of our aggression is a psychosis that has been compounding ever since the instinct and intellect clashed some 2 million years ago. It follows then that the further back in history we go, the less psychologically upset a race of people will be, and so the more cooperative, loving and in touch with the natural world they will be – and we can see evidence of this in existing ‘primitive’ races of people, such as in many indigenous cultures. However, it needs to be born in mind that even indigenous peoples, such as Indigenous Australians, are only relatively innocent compared with other races; they are still members of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, so they are still psychologically upset angry egocentric and alienated.
Good stuff to hear
Calling someone the next Charles Darwin is admitting he is making erroneous assumptions and his theory is incorrect. Darwin’s theory of Macroevolution went out with hoop skirts and mustache wax.
We suggest you should evaluate Jeremy Griffith’s treatise on its merits. Every concept presented in it is supported by accountable first-principle scientific argument. And you can know that he has at last got to the bottom of the human condition, because the ultimate test of any hypothesis is how accountable it is of our own lives. Once you understand the explanation and begin to apply it, you will discover it is so able to make sense of human behaviour it makes it transparent. This transparency of ourselves and our world — for example, the exposure of all our falseness — that this understanding of the human condition brings, is the ultimate ‘test of experience’ that confirms that the understanding being presented here is the long-sought explanation of the human condition.Regarding Darwin, we will just mention that as recently as last year, Discovery magazine wrote, “His [Darwin’s] work revolutionized scientific thought and remains largely intact to this day.”So interesting down to earth explanation. It has brought healing to our wounded world.
This is amazingly a new chapter
Thank you for providing this invaluable insight.
This information is idealistic and struck my interest immensely.
Hi Dottie, what is so extraordinary about Jeremy Griffith’s instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition is that it explains the real reason for why humans’ competitive behaviour became an unavoidable, indeed necessary, part of human life. Rather than being idealistic, it is actually a defence of reality! That is why it is so powerful: it actually allows us all to reconcile the selfish madness of the world, and in ourselves, with ideality. And by explaining the very good reason why our intellect had to defy our instincts, it makes redundant our defensive behaviours of anger, egocentricity and alienation, which is what makes it totally different to pseudo idealistic demands that we all just behave cooperatively.
Saludos (regards) from Argentina! And thank you for such a gift!
It’s fascinating to learn about the human condition.
Best 👌 explanation of Marxist ideology l have ever heard.
Thank you Dave. Yes, we can now understand that Marxism was pseudo-idealistic, and actually hampered the all important search to find knowledge. We recommend Jeremy Griffith’s book Death by Dogma, which is freely available on our homepage. It sets out clearly the biological reason for why left-wing ideology is so dangerous. It also summarises the whole history of pseudo idealism going back to when the upset state of the human condition first emerged some 2 million years ago. In it Jeremy emphasises that while it is easy to identify with the ideal of everyone being cooperative and loving, the whole objective of the human journey was, as mentioned, to find understanding of why humans have not been cooperative and loving and instead so divisively competitive and aggressive. That is the great riddle of the human condition that had to be explained, and what is finally revealed with Jeremy’s biological explanation is that there has been an all-important, good reason for that divisive behaviour. It’s always been easy to side with idealism and denigrate realism, but the left wing’s insistence on ideal behaviour had the effect of oppressing and thus regressing, not ‘progressing’, the all-important search for knowledge. Now at last we can understand the real world humans have been living in where we have had to be competitive, aggressive and selfish, and, most wonderfully of all, by revealing that reason, ending the need for that divisive behaviour.
Very enlightening
More plz!
The WTM’s homepage—HumanCondition.com—provides a guide to ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ which recommends the steps to learn more and get involved—and it is all free! This includes joining our popular WTM Community Facebook Group and registering for free, weekly emails which serve as a wonderfully comprehensive course as it guides you through much of the content of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM in beautifully illustrated bite-size pieces.
Awesome wow. It’s so amazing to learn about our human behavior etc.
I am interested in any more you can plainly tell me re. all inventions? Or details please before I get too old. ha. Thank you.x
Christina, even though the instinct vs intellect concept is actually very simple, we humans have lived in such fear and denial of our corrupted condition that we can find it difficult to ‘hear’ or take in discussion of it. For people new to this concept, we recommend Jeremy’s recent presentation The Great Guilt, which explains this ‘Deaf Effect’ in depth. If you want a good quick summary, we recommend FAQ 1.3, in which it is explained that, “Essentially, when we humans developed a conscious mind some 2 million years ago, a battle unavoidably developed between it and our already established cooperative instincts. The result of this conflict between our instinct and intellect was that we became psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric – the upset state we refer to as the human condition. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition.”
How can I get the book?
Hi Tammy. You can immediately access a copy at the top of our homepage just under THE Interview! You will see an image of FREEDOM with the text ‘Free Copy’ so click on that to access your free electronic copy to read, listen to or download. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. If you are particularly after a hardcopy of Jeremy Griffith’s books they are available to purchase from Amazon and other good bookstores.
I love to learn new things.
You stated that Adam and Eve were evil. Gen.3 and22, God said " the man is as us to know good and evil. If we are train to love one another that might change some of this anger man has. Rev. 21 speaks of dark days to come. There are some who dream of a world of peace and happiness and love is in the air and all is well and yet, we wait. I enjoyed your findings and life.Thk you.
Thank you Betty. Yes, what Jeremy Griffith presents actually reconciles science and religion by scientifically explaining and demystifying pre-scientific concepts. For example, Part 2 of THE Interview explains how the story of Adam and Eve is a pre-scientific metaphor for the emergence of consciousness and its clash with our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts, resulting in humans becoming psychologically upset or ‘sinful’. Yes, there have been “dark days” aplenty since the emergence of the human condition some 2 million years ago, and with it our ‘good and evil’ stricken condition, but with the redeeming, reconciling understanding found, the sunlight of healing understanding can now stream in!
This has been the most productive hour of my entire existance. The content honestly rang through so hard that I felt as though I knew in my core that it is all true. Pass the coolaid I am absolutely hooked, I look forward to watching this again and again and going threw the rabbit hole. This is the only way for humanity to have any longevity.
From the beginning after Adam and Eve messed up, now we have a breakthrough to keep man awake.
Please send me more information. This really is incredible
Thank you so much for your comment and interest, David. To learn more and progress your understanding here are our recommended next steps: • Subscribe to our free Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. • Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition. Totally free, no registration required. • Read the Key Books by Jeremy Griffith. Totally free to download, no registration required. • Join and participate in our Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. • Help this critical new science by sharing it!
I believe that what this biologist has discovered and have revealed about the human condition is very amazing and important in bringing about solving the human condition problems at this day and age for humanity. The world needs this important information to bring about the awareness of the human behavior as a whole. I congratulate this man for this important discovery and I thank him and bless him for this hard work. Now the world will come to understand how humanity behaves the way it does. Thank you Sir for this your great work.
An interesting scientific explanation of what is already explained in Genesis (The bible) - the fall. I would be interested in his answer to your question “do we all need therapy or something?”, as it is obvious that understanding or human effort alone will not cure our fallen state - I agree with one of your correspondents - we need a saviour :)
Thanks for your interest Ralph. With regard to your question about whether humanity’s redemption is beyond the capabilities of humansto bring about, and that therefore we need a “saviour”, we would reiterate what we replied to LaVerne, which is that understanding the human condition is the great unlocking point in the human journey of conscious thought and enquiry and its resolution leads, at last, to the real basis for personal and global transformation. Yes, as is explained in THE Interview, it is understanding that is the savior – science’s discovery of the way genes and nerves work has finally made it possible for the liberation of humanity from the horror of the human condition.We are rational creatures, and so when all the logic points to there being only one response we can make, namely the human-condition-resolved, upset-obsoleted, transformed new way of living, then that is the response the human race has to take. Part 4 of THE Interview, titled ‘How does the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible actually occur?’, presents the answer to how this understanding allows everyone to transform their lives. It explains that it will take a number of generations for the upset within us to be completely healed but it also stresses importantly we can be immediately free of its effects. Certainly there is habituation to overcome and humans do find change difficult but at last we can understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because we have the first principle science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it.Actually, calming, understandable information and as valuable as platinum. Thank you kindly for the download , I am returning to listen to again.
Thanks Again 😊
Amazing
Wonderfully explained
Doesn’t give solutions for free this info should be put out for free in detail in order for world change
Hi Melissa, the work of the WTM is a scientific pursuit and was not created for profit, so all of the information and materials (including books, videos and podcasts) provided on the website are absolutely free of charge (with no email required to access everything), and that also applies to our mailing list, if you would like to receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events.
Informative
Just great
Buddhism is a similar explanation of the human condition .
While Buddhism and other religions contain all manner of truths about human life, it is all from a pre-scientific view. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. We suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ which explains the unique significance of Jeremy Griffith’s work.
This is interesting
This is my Jonathan Livingston Seagull in my enlightenment journey in the 70s
Certainly there has been a recognition in literature (and by profound thinkers generally) that there must be something better than our current human condition afflicted state and that someone had to be prepared to stand apart from the crowd in order to find it. However, many people have deluded themselves that this ‘liberated’ state could be achieved through people artificially restraining, sublimating or even transcending their upset, corrupted condition. But the truth is that this state could only be achieved by confronting, truthfully thinking about, and finally explaining and thus solving the human condition at its source, which is what Jeremy Griffith has done. In the end it was only getting to the bottom of the human condition, not transcending it, that could fulfil Richard Bach’s allegorical quest for perfection.
Would like to learn more
Thank you Mary. Our homepage — HumanCondition.com — provides a wonderful road map to progress with all our key material made freely available and you can register for our free weekly emails presenting this immensely relieving understanding in bite-size portions! Also our Facebook Group provides a wonderful platform for participating in, or just observing, interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science.
I really appreciate your knowledge, I thought I was the only one that thought like this. Its really good to know that I am not crazy. This all makes sense, so much so I am smiling. I have just never known how to start trying to explain myself . Thank you so much. Kady
Enlightening as it revealed Spiritual aspects joined with science and humans' commonsense perspectives of critical thinking.
Yes, in hindsight, it all just seems so simple and common sense! But while the fundamental explanation is very simple, the very nature of the human condition means explanation of it can be initially difficult to access as it has been the most terrifying of subjects to face because it is the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad as a species, and we have necessarily lived in almost total denial of it.And you are right, it does reconcile the scientific and the spiritual. Although what is being presented is rational, fully accountable science, it recognises, like all the great religions do, that we humans once lived in a pre-human-condition-afflicted state of original innocence where we were perfectly instinctively orientated to the cooperative, selfless, loving, ‘Godly’ ideals of life; ‘God’ being explained in as being the integrative meaning of life. The more that people digest this explanation, the more they see that it does not rob life or explanations of life of its ‘spiritual’ dimension. People might be interested in reading our FAQ 6.7 ‘How can a scientific explanation ever hope to account for and encompass the great ‘spiritual’ dimension we know exists in life? / Isn’t ‘spirituality’ beyond a purely rational explanation?’If all humans fully grasp this fundamental truth this world will become a better place.
Humans by themselves will never achieve that, we need a savior.
No, we disagree. Understanding the human condition is the great unlocking point in the human journey of conscious thought and enquiry and its resolution leads, at last, to the real basis for personal and global transformation. Focusing on, and putting your faith in an individual, a “savior”, helped people transcend their upset state, but the obvious truth is we needed to resolve it at its source and that is the great breakthrough Jeremy’s work presents. We are thinking beings, we need brain food not brain anaesthetic; we needed answers for our conscious thinking mind, without that all else is ultimately futile. As people are becoming aware of this understanding and how it fixes all the problems in the world, they are starting to get more and more excited, and that is a wave that will sweep the world. You can see from the excitement and relief in our ecstatic responses to THE Interview that we are well on our way! Yes, as is explained in THE Interview, it is understanding that is the savior – science’s discovery of the way genes and nerves work has finally made it possible for the liberation of humanity from the horror of the human condition, and people are cottoning on to that. As Jeremy Griffith says, “Yes, that is the essential truth: science is the liberator, the so-called ‘messiah’ or ‘redeemer’ of humankind, as we always hoped it would be!”
Rather interesting to say the least
Wouldn’t it be amazing if this is “the answer” to everything, to have peace and tranquility on earth. Couldn’t be anything wrong with looking into this, and I’ve so many questions. Of course, I’m naturally waiting for the catch to pay to find out the answers to my now new questions. But in good faith and with an open mind...“Lets go brother” quoting Casual Wardog
Thank you very much for your comment James and your good faith and open mind will not be disappointed. Firstly everything is completely free of charge, there is absolutely no cost involved as this is a scientific pursuit and was not created for profit, see FAQ 3.1 ‘What is the World Transformation Movement?’ Secondly, as our FAQ 1.9 ‘Should people be sceptical’ explains, the absolutely astonishing claims made about Jeremy Griffith’s treatise, such as Professor Harry Prosen (former president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association) saying “I have no doubt Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race”, all withstand scrutiny. A person can begin reading the explanation and the more they read into it the more they will realise the claims are actually true, and in time become deeply appreciated for their forthright honesty in indicating where the solution to our problems lies.
Very thoughtful. A lot of hours of work went into this thought provoking book. It has shed light on this mystical phenomenon. We as the human race should make this book a must read for society. As a marketer by listening to Professor Griffith I can truly say “I have seen the light”.
He is a great man I love listening to him
curious!
This needs to be listened to more than once to fully grasp. I love the implications here.
Yes Ann, as the interviewer Craig Conway observes, the fundamental genes vs nerves argument is very simple but is “so far-reaching in its ramifications” so re-watching THE Interview is exactly the way to fully grasp all that flows from the explanation. Also, as we suggest HERE our homepage, after watching THE Interview we recommend you watch The Great Guilt video that explains the difficulty of the ‘Deaf Effect’ that reading about the human condition initially causes, and then The Great Transformation video about how understanding the human condition actually transforms the human race. As Craig goes on to say “...I mean it is world-changing is what it is, because it truly enables ‘the psychological rehabilitation of the human race’! I mean that is just wonderful.” Also subscribing to our free mail list and joining our popular Facebook Group are other great ways to learn more about how all-encompassing this explanation is.
The hardest question
Thank you for your perceptive comment Jimmi. The question of the human condition has been the hardest because it asks are we fundamentally good or bad. So the human condition has been the most important, but also the most fearful, of subjects. The most wonderful news is now that question is answered, as it is in THE Interview, the subject becomes safe and not just safe but gloriously freeing of our mind and soul! We no longer have to live in denial and fear of this subject, and in Part 4 Jeremy Griffith discusses just how liberating this knowledge is: “being finally able to understand that we are good and not bad is what brings us the greatest psychological relief of all…at last we can…reconcile and heal our split selves.”
Very informative.
I watched the interview and am ordering the book. My son, 33, is experiencing in real time the effect of the conditioning of the human mind. He’s a very smart, analytical and deep thinker and is suffering from this very thing. He’s searching for an understanding and acceptance of his conflicting thoughts that are completely working against his instincts, which are very strong as well. His inner critic is in charge and he needs the answer to why he has always had this struggle that’s brought him to his knees. Hopefully this will penetrate his mind and reach his soul 🙏
Oh that is wonderful you want to help your son with this understanding Theress as it does bring such relief to all our troubled minds because it resolves the source of the conflict between our instincts and intellect and stops the “inner critic” as you so well decribe the effect of the struggle. To quote Jeremy Griffith from Part 4 in THE Interview: “Well, what this real—and actually very obvious—instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition fundamentally does is lift the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race. It establishes that we humans are good and not bad after all. While we are all inevitably variously angry, egocentric and alienated from our different encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, ultimately self-knowledge, understanding of our corrupted condition, we can now know that every human is fundamentally good. And this ability to understand and know there was a good reason why the human race became psychologically upset, is the key, relieving understanding we have been in search of ever since we became conscious some 2 million years ago and our corrupted condition emerged. That is the key relief for our mind—being finally able to understand that we are good and not bad is what brings us the greatest psychological relief of all.”We highly recommend you and your son also watch the companion presentation to THE Interview titled The Great Guilt. It is an astonishingly beautiful and revealing presentation that takes you back to when the human condition first emerged in humans and comprehensively explains the shame and guilt we have felt for having corrupted our all-loving and sensitive soul and how this lifts the great burden of guilt from the human race! You can access it HERE on our website. We also wanted to mention all of Jeremy’s books, including THE Interview and his main book FREEDOM, are freely available HERE on our website.Remedial insights. Wonderful 👌
So right,I totally agree with you I have the same way of thinking as you.Now it’s a matter of educating the population of the world to learn and clause this theory.
Great to have your interest John! As THE Interview explains, despite our competitive and selfish behaviour we have always intuitively believed we were fundamentally good, but we have never been able to explain our contradictory, conflicted condition — until now. Using first principle-based biology, Jeremy Griffith explains that only understanding why the intellect had to defy our cooperative ‘good’ instincts and become psychologically upset, or ‘bad’, could we resolve our species’ psychosis. Having the conflict between our instincts and intellect explained is all-important because it is only this clarifying, redeeming and reconciling explanation of the nature of the struggle between our instinctive self and conscious self that at last brings peace to our divided selves, and transforms the human race, see FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this idea original or new?’. In terms of how this knowledge will spread and educate the world as with any new scientific breakthrough in history it may take time for people to realise this is what it says it is but once this catches on — through people recognising the importance of it — the infectious enthusiasm and selfless love it liberates will spread like wildfire, see FAQ 1.40 ‘How can you hope to transform the world?’.
Great interview indeed. Need more of this insight in programs.
Excited to hear what he has to say as I feel our country is in terrible danger. Things keep getting worse.
It’s great you are going to watch THE Interview Kathy as yes the world is fast reaching its 11th hour and we need answers urgently and thankfully, at last, we have them with this resolution of the human condition! As Jeremy Griffith says in this interview: “We humans have absolutely lived in hope, faith and trust that one day, somewhere, some place, all the efforts of everyone—but of scientists in particular—would finally produce the completely redeeming, uplifting and healing understanding of us humans. I know it must seem outrageous to claim that this goal of goals has finally been achieved, but it has. In fact, the human condition is such a difficult subject for us humans to confront and deal with that I couldn’t be talking about it so openly and freely if it hadn’t been solved.” Our FAQ 1.6 summarises how understanding the human condition solves everything!
This is a great eye opener, awakening of the consciousness up until now unknown to mankind
An eye opener...
🌈🌈🌈 very different…
I am deeply impressed with the information you guys are sharing
I have been obsessed with the psychological trait Machiavellianism. It’s come to be synonymous with evil. Of course, all people vary in levels of Machiavellianism, but while i was watching the video i just realized that machiavellianism can now be seen as a sort of “fanaticism” for the lie concerning the human condition. The more dedicated you are to the lie, the higher the Machiavellianism. Low Machiavellian people are those who have been improving the world in spite of the lie. This is supported in all the work done on Inequity Aversion in primates and a few other animals. I think The Stone Age Present even touched on this (Allman). We spent the majority of our existance living in this “egalitarian” lifestyle. So now, people with empathy (low machs) feel a strong sense of Inequity in our society and are driven to correct it. The high-machs say the world isn’t fair. The low machs say the world is what we make it. Good work.
While the understanding of the human condition makes the “lie” (which is essentially living a psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated life) visible, this understanding also enables us to at last understand that the “lie” has been necessary, and actually heroic. It was what enabled humanity to continue with the corrupting journey to find knowledge, ulimately self-knowledge, understanding of the human condition. Certainly we have come from an innocent and cooperative, “egalatarian” past, where “inequity” was an anathema, however competition and materialism have been necessary. As THE Interview explains, freedom of thought and individualism, sustained by the incentives of materialism and capitalism which right-wing constitutions uphold, are what maintained humanity’s heroic search for knowledge.To assist with understanding this analysis, we suggest looking at Jeremy’s short booklet Death by Dogma because it sets out clearly the biological reason why trying to enforce cooperative behaviour have been so dangerous. It summarises the whole history of ‘pseudo idealism’ going back to when the upset state of the human condition first emerged some 2 million years ago. In it Jeremy emphasises that while it is easy to identify with the ideal of everyone being cooperative and loving, the whole objective of the human journey was, as mentioned, to find understanding of why humans have not been cooperative and loving and instead so divisively competitive and aggressive. That is the great riddle of the human condition that had to be explained, and what is finally revealed with Jeremy’s biological explanation is that there has been an all-important, good reason for that divisive behaviour. It’s always been easy to side with idealism and denigrate realism, but now at last we can understand the real world humans have been living in where we have had to be competitive, aggressive and selfish, and, most wonderfully of all, by revealing that reason, ending the need for that divisive behaviour.Excellent
I want to know more about the Movement, can you please who is behind this movement and the clarity of its purpose.
The WTM is a global not-for-profit movement supported by the efforts of members and supporters from around the world. As explained in our FAQ 3.1, “Founded in Sydney in 1983, the WTM is a global not-for-profit movement dedicated to transforming the individual, the human race and thus our world through bringing psychologically relieving biological understanding to the underlying problem in all human affairs of the human condition, humans’ extraordinary capacity for what has been referred to as ‘good and evil’...The WTM works tirelessly to promote this explanation of the human condition to ensure its now desperately needed psychologically liberating and transforming effects reach every human. Indeed, it is called the World Transformation Movement because the most marvellous effect of having understanding of the human condition is that all our species’ psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated behaviour can now, immediately, be put aside, and eventually, over a few generations, completely disappear, thus bringing about the complete rehabilitation and transformation of the human race and thus of our planet.”
Wow 👏👏 👏 👏, exactly what the world has been waiting for
Is this immortality?
Solving the human condition will certainly remove our fear of death. As Jeremy explains in Part 5.2 of Freedom Expanded Book 1, “When we were innocent we were so in tune with everything around us and so happy inside and so alive that death was not an issue. Death is only an issue when we live a wretched life, where we become so selfish that it matters if we die or not. Fear of death is a product of selfishness, which in turn is a product of alienation, which in turn is the loss of the generosity and meaning we once had before we became upset.” With the human condition solved and future humans no longer at odds with our all-loving instinctive self or soul, which we can now understand is in complete harmony with Integrative Meaning (see Freedom Essay 23), which is the theme of the universe, it follows that they will be in harmony with the universe. Plato in his dialogue Phaedo described our all-loving soul, writing that humans have “knowledge, both before and at the moment of birth…of all absolute standards…[of] beauty, goodness, uprightness, holiness…our souls exist before our birth”, describing “the soul” as “the pure and everlasting and immortal and changeless…realm of the absolute…[our] soul resembles the divine [God]”.
Finally a simple realistic chance to really wake up to reality and fix what we broken
Excellent interview!
Out of this world info.
What is this Human Condition?
In THE Interview, biologist Jeremy Griffith explains the major question facing our species, and each of us in our lives is our psychologically troubled ‘good and evil’ stricken so-called human condition; and more particularly, our inability to answer the question of why we humans are the way we are, so brutally competitive, selfish and aggressive that human life has become all but unbearable.In FAQ 1.1 this stricken state is explained in detail: "It is not uncommon for people to think that the term ‘human condition’ refers to the state of poverty and inequality and other practical hardships and imperfections in human life, but such problems are only superficial manifestations and aspects of the human condition. Much less superficial interpretations of what the term human condition means are that it refers to ‘the riddle of why we humans are competitive and selfish not cooperative and loving’, and ‘the issue of good and evil in our make-up’, and even, ‘the issue of why we are the way we are’. However, the human condition is actually a much, much deeper issue than even these last interpretations. As I explained in THE Interview and in all my other presentations, we humans once lived in a nurtured-with-unconditional-love, cooperative, selfless and loving innocent state...If we stand back and think about this original cooperative, selfless and loving state and then think about how competitive, selfish and aggressive we humans are now, the contrast between the two states couldn’t be greater. And if we think about that extreme contrast and then think about the situation we have been stuck in for some 2 million years where we haven’t been able to explain our so-called ‘fall from grace’, the corruption of our original all-sensitive and all-loving, innocent instinctive self or soul, then how deeply traumatised with guilt and shame must we humans have been all that time! Certainly, we learnt to block the horror of this situation out of our mind, but that has been the underlying psychological predicament we humans have been enduring. So having had to live with this insufferable, unbearably depressing guilt and shame for having destroyed the magic world of our soul is what the human condition really is!"The role of religion which moderated our behavior is not fully explained
It needs to be born in mind that THE Interview is only an introductory text. In Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM (see chapter 8:15) it is explained that religions have provided humanity with incredible guidance, comfort and love under the duress of the human condition. Ultimately however, to resolve and liberate ourselves from our conflicted human condition our conscious brain needed to understand why when the universal ideals of life are to be loving and cooperative are we also so hateful and competitive. To do this required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great breakthrough that biologist Jeremy Griffith has found. Whereas religions were a means of managing our condition, with this knowledge we can at last advance the human race from a human-condition afflicted state to a state completely free of that terrible affliction. You might like to explore our FAQs about religion.
I instinctively always thought this to be true
I am convinced, mankind can no longer live in this environment.
Finally, an explained answer I can’t believe in this day and age that the mass of humans still think that war is plausible I’m so relieved that you found the words no one else could. All my life I felt this?
Certainly, as Professor Harry Prosen, a former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, and Patron on the WTM wrote, “the fastest growing realization everywhere is that humanity can’t go on the way it is going.” However, until the redeeming and reconciling explanation of the human condition was found, humanity had no other option but to continue the upsetting search to find self-understanding, with the result that we became ever more psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated, to the point that we have now reached, where the world is at end play. Finally, as you say, we have found the answer that means all that madness and violence can end!
This will help the world in understanding peace
Amen so true must search and seek I love this so right
So interested because I believe this is true
Superb resolution. Clear resolution regarding wider view than most other statements attempt re: Human Condition.
A really mind blowing theory that needs much thought. Thank you.
By understanding my own vision development as a cell biologist researcher and a neuro optometric rehabilitation vision specialist as clinician. I can help people understand how patient see the world and behavior. Optometrists hold the critical key to understand and treat behavior problems or mental illnesses through vision and field rehabilitation. what he said is very true. But our vision only see 5% consciously but 95% subconsciously. A lot of our behavior is originated from unconscious or subconscious mind. That is why we can not understand properly. The functional vision field that optometrist can test is critical to understand a lot of human behavior. And the aggressive and selfish behavior are survival mechanisms. Sympathetic nerve system is up regularated in our toxic society and primive reflex resurface after trauma or never have been integrated in a lot of people.
Thank you for your comment Chelsea. Your experience dealing with eyesight has certainly provided you with a wonderful metaphor for the truth that “a lot of our behaviour is originated from unconscious or subconscious mind”. However, what we can now understand is that it is not correct that our “aggressive and selfish behavior are survival mechanisms”, or that the cause of our behaviour is our “toxic society” which has caused “trauma” that has thrown our “sympathetic nerve system” into a heightened state, although this is certainly a symptom of the problem.In this presentation biologist Jeremy Griffith explains our selfish and aggressive behaviour is the result of a psychosis caused by humanity’s heroic, but corrupting, search for knowledge. Further it is explained that all humans are born with an all-loving, cooperative instinctive self or soul which is the very sensitive, pure and true moral part of ourselves. In order to find knowledge we had to defy our cooperation-demanding instincts which resulted in us becoming psychologically upset or angry, egocentric and alienated from this all-knowing but not-understanding world of the soul, which we suppressed to our subconscious. In biological terms, our naturally selected instinctive orientations were in effect intolerant of our emerging intellect’s need to experiment with different behaviours in order to find understanding, which resulted in us becoming psychologically upset or angry, alienated and egocentric. Most importantly, this psychosis can be healed with understanding as is illustrated and evidence on our Transformation page!The video presentations told me how to focus on my compassion and end my fears by the new truth. Let the battle begin with the ‘deaf’.
Makes sense. I was a pastor’s wife. Divorce caused me to dig in ways I would not have otherwise. Mass confusion exists in our churches. I’m leaning to this and knowing thyself.