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Part 4 of THE Interview, titled ‘How does the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible actually occur?’, presents the answer to how this understanding allows us to transform our lives and world. It explains that it will take a number of generations for the upset within us to be completely healed but it also stresses importantly we can be immediately free of its effects. Certainly there is habituation to overcome and humans do find change difficult but at last we can understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. While religious assurances, such as ‘God loves you’ in Christianity, provided comfort, they failed to explain WHY we are lovable, and it is that missing explanation that this breakthrough provides, and why it is different to everything that has gone before it – at last it is ‘legitimate’ to “act good”. FAQ 1.40 addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’.

Thanks very much Peter. Just to clarify for readers, biologist Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition is not ‘religious’; it is a rational, scientific explanation. However, Jeremy’s work doesn’t ignore, exclude or contradict a belief in God, or Christianity. It simply brings biological understanding to all those pre-scientific concepts. In fact, Jeremy considers the Bible to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing all the truth about human life albeit from a pre-science view. Although this is science, it is based on a ‘Godly’ nature in the sense of recognising, like all the great religions do, that we humans once lived in a pre-human-condition-afflicted state of original innocence where we were perfectly instinctively orientated to the cooperative, selfless, loving, ‘Godly’ ideals of life; ‘God’ being explained as being the personification of integrative meaning of life; see Freedom Essay 23. We also think you might find our FAQs about religion of interest, especially FAQs ‘What is God’ and ‘Does this understanding undermine religion’.

    Thanks for your questions Bengt-Ove. It has to remembered that the human race, which has lived in terror of our corrupted condition until now, and that this is huge paradigm shift, so what will help with this shift into the sunlight of the redeeming understanding of our condition is momentum – as more and more people discover the understanding of the human condition, the more reassured everyone else will be that it is at last safe to face it. So we just have to be patient and slowly build support, and it will grow faster and faster, which is what we are already discovering, as all the ecstatic responses on our homepage demonstrate.     With regard to people letting go of greed, as Part 4 of THE Interview, titled ‘How does the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible actually occur?’ explains it will take a number of generations for the upset within us to be completely healed but it also stresses importantly we can be immediately free of its effects. It is explained there that even those who are most committed to seeking validation through gaining power and wealth, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, biological explanation of the human condition that establishes our worth at the most fundamental level. Certainly there is habituation to overcome and humans do find change difficult but now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because we have the first principle science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it. So instead of being focused on power, fame, fortune and glory, all our energies will be freed to truly work together on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering and save our world. See FAQ 1.40 which addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’     With regard to people’s adherence to religious dogma, what people discover is Jeremy Griffith’s work actually reconciles science and religion by bringing biological understanding to pre-scientific concepts. In fact, it presents the fulfilment of a time that all religions looked forward to when we could actually explain ourselves— but rather than threatening religions, what people discover is it is the fulfilment of a time that all the great prophets looked forward to when we could actually explain ourselves – see FAQ 6.3 ‘Aren’t all Griffith’s demystifications of religious teachings going to be seen by supporters of religion as blasphemy? / Does understanding of the human condition undermine a faith in religion or God? / How does this affect my personal religious practice? / How can you reconcile the explanation of the human condition that defends the upset state with religious teachings that condemn upset?’

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While many have identified the elements of instinct and intellect or consciousness involved in creating the human condition Nkonde, the biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith’s treatise provides is the clarifying explanation of the nature of the conflict between them which is why this critical new science actually does solve the human condition. As distinguished psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen said: "I have no doubt this biological explanation of the human condition is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race", see FAQ 1.13.

We appreciate people’s feedback very much Gewndoline so thank you. Yes this is certainly amazing and resonates deeply but what Jeremy Griffith is presenting is a huge paradigm shift in how we’ve thought about humans so while great care has been taken to present the information as quickly and simply as possible (which is done in Part 1 of THE Interview) explanation of the human condition can still be initially difficult to access. This is because it has been the most terrifying of subjects to face as it is the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad as a species, and we have necessarily lived in almost total denial of it which presents a great challenge as your say for ‘the human conditioned population’. To help with this Jeremy produced a companion presentation to THE Interview titled The Great Guilt where he explains this initial ‘deaf effect’ and how to overcome it. It is an incredibly beautiful and revealing presentation and includes examples of people overcoming the deaf effect and shows why being patient through this obstacle is well worth the time! Click HERE to watch it on our website! Also FAQ 1.3 presents a very brief summary of the key ‘instinct vs intellect’ concept which people find helpful.

Thank you very much for your comment Chandra. Now the core mystery and problem about human behaviour of our so-called ‘good and evil’-stricken human condition has at last been solved we can bring compassionate understanding to our troubled minds. As Professor Harry Prosen, a former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, recognised, “the beauty of Griffith’s treatise is that the healing starts at the macro level of the universal human condition; the healing of the shame and blame that the whole human race has suffered from, which is non-personal and thus more easily confronted, absorbed and accepted. It brings the greater context and love to all human psychosis and suffering, and then, from under the umbrella of that safe position, everyone can gradually work inwards to their particular experience of all the imperfections in human life that have now, finally, been made sense of” — see FAQ 1.34 ‘How does understanding the human race’s condition help with an individual’s depression and psychosis?’. Also FAQ 1.35 ‘Does this heal anxiety?’ provides further valuable discussion about understanding the human condition and our mental health.

Hi Lee, to progress your understanding after watching THE Interview we recommend these next steps: • Subscribe to our free Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. • Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition. Totally free, no registration required. • Read the Key Books by Jeremy Griffith. Totally free to download, no registration required. • Participate in our private Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. • Help this critical new science by sharing it!

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    Yes, Brian, we can at last understand where our emotions, feelings and locked up anger comes from. As THE Interview explains, all humans are born with all-loving moral instincts but now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition caused by the conscious mind’s necessary search for knowledge. So we can understand WHY as a species we have become so psychologically upset—angry, egocentric and alienated—as to nearly destroy our own planet. But now we can explain and understand this necessary conflict, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, and we free ourselves from the human condition.     People have used drugs throughout the ages for all sorts of reasons, some beneficial some destructive, but now the human condition is solved we finally have the real relief for our upset lives. Jeremy Griffith does talk about the use of drugs in his definitive book FREEDOM, where he explains people have used them, among other things, to try and “shut down their alienation-preoccupied mind in order to let through some of the truthful world of the soul”. So we suggest that is what happened when you experienced being part of nature and the blissful oneness you felt. Thankfully, we can now return to a life connected to everything, having completed our great odyssey of championing the conscious mind.

    Thank you for your thoughts David. How humans became genetically programmed to care and expect love is one of the great unanswered, until now, scientific questions. As Jeremy Griffith says in Part 3 of THE Interview: “how we acquired our moral instincts has been one of the greatest mysteries in biology. The primatologist Richard Wrangham described it as ‘A question that has lain unsolved at the core of biology ever since Darwin’. And Darwin himself described it as the ‘one special difficulty’ with his concept of natural selection”. This is because in order to have an instinctive altruistic moral nature, it follows that our distant ape ancestors must have been cooperative and loving, not competitive and aggressive like other animals. But, since altruistic, unconditionally selfless genetic traits are self-eliminating, and therefore seemingly cannot develop in animals, that leaves the question of how could we humans have developed them? Jeremy explains in THE Interview, and in much greater detail in his book FREEDOM, the answer was through nurturing or what he terms ‘love-indoctrination’ (summarised in FAQ 5.2). This is how we acquired our all-loving, moral instincts and why, as you say, children have a fundamental need to experience unconditional love from birth. Humans ability to nurture has been severely compromised by the human condition, but now that all our preoccupied behaviour has been defended by the explanation of the human condition, we can now safely acknowledge the absolute importance of nurturing in the development of children, see chapter 6:13 of FREEDOM titled ‘Nurturing now becomes a priority’.     In terms of how this brings about the change we need to transform the world Part 4 of THE Interview, titled ‘How does the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible actually occur?’, presents the answer. It explains that yes it will take a number of generations for the upset within us to be completely healed but it also stresses importantly we can be immediately free of its effects. Certainly there is habituation to overcome and humans do find change difficult but at last we can understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because we have the first principle science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it. So instead of being focused on power, fame, fortune and glory, all our energies will be freed to truly work together on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering and save our world. How this healing is immediately open to us all is also summarised in FAQ 1.5 and FAQ 1.40 addresses the questions of Aren’t the problems of the world too overwhelming to ever be fixed? / Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world?

Thanks Deana. As THE Interview explains the human condition has been the most terrifying of subjects because it is the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad as a species. So much so we have necessarily lived in almost total denial of it and got on with the noble but corrupting task of searching for knowledge. Now that knowledge is found, and our fundamental goodness is biologically established, we can finally stop lying and start talking the truth about our upset condition. Yes it does makes sense and the honesty that is at last available is what frees us as we now have the redeeming understanding denial is no longer necessary! We can explain and talk about the unavoidable journey of the human condition and how corrupted we’ve become, and that honesty is what will heal our troubled minds. We suggest you now watch or read The Great Guilt (which follows THE Interview) as it further explains the immense guilt and shame humans have been carrying for corrupting our original instinctive self or soul and how we can now legitimately move on from the human condition and be free of that burden (click here to access it)!

Significantly Jeremy Griffith’s breakthrough instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition allows us to understand why the horror of discrimination has existed under the duress of the human condition and, most importantly, finally brings it to an end. See FAQ 1.5 which explains solving the human condition solves all the confusion, frustration and suffering in human life at its source.

    While great care has been taken to present the explanation as quickly and simply as possible ER (which is done in Part 1 of THE Interview), opening up the underlying issue in all human affairs of the human condition does mean that there are several absolutely critical questions to be answered, which make up Parts 2, 3 & 4 of THE Interview. However, FAQ 1.3 presents a very brief summary of the key ‘instinct vs intellect’ concept. Essentially, when we humans developed a conscious mind some 2 million years ago, a battle unavoidably developed between it and our already established instincts. The result of this conflict between our instinct and intellect was that we became psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric – the upset state we refer to as the human condition. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition! As Craig Conway observes in this interview, while this fundamental ‘genes vs nerves’ explanation is extraordinarily simple, it is ‘so far-reaching in its ramifications’ that there is much to explain. When this is taken into account, it can be appreciated that the 1 hour interview is a very, very concise presentation.     We also recommend reading FAQ 1.16 ‘Why can’t I understand what this is all about?’ because it explains our historic fear of the subject of the human condition and the resulting ‘deaf effect’ that often initially causes. So it can take a little time and perseverance to get your head around it this explanation but it’s well worth it as you can see from the daily ecstatic responses on our homepage — people everywhere are so relieved to finally be able to make sense of human life!

What is being presented is not an imposition or appeal that everyone behave selflessly. No, what is presented is rational understanding of the human condition, and this understanding brings about real change in ourselves becasue we can at last understand the core insecurity that has been driving our behaviour. By explaining the very good reason why our intellect had to defy our instincts (which is that genes can orientate but nerves need to understand) our defensive behaviours of anger, egocentricity and alienation are made redundant, which means we are finally in a position to ‘change for the better’ In Part 4 of THE Interview, Jeremy explains how the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible, actually occurs.

    Ultimately, it is that logic that will hold sway. As Jeremy Griffith explains in Part 3 of his book Transform Your Life: “We are rational creatures, and so when all the logic points to there being only one response we can make, namely the human-condition-resolved, upset-obsoleted, transformed new way of living, then that is the response the human race has to take. No revolution dogmatically, and even physically, imposed upon us by others, as has pretty much been the case with revolutions in the past, just a peaceful revolution through the power of logic, knowledge, understanding." And so humanity will begin to slowly take up the explanation of the human condition, but that uptake has a fast finish because the selflessness it liberates in people will not only quickly solve all the problems on the planet but the excitement and joy it brings means everyone will want to get on board as quickly as they can. And so even though we haven’t yet reached the tipping point we are well on our way as you can see from the excitement and relief in our daily ecstatic responses to THE Interview! Also, on our homepage, you can see the rapidly growing appreciation and support for Jeremy Griffith’s work with outstanding commendations from thought leaders and WTM Centres opening all over the world!     You might also be interested in FAQ 1.40, which addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’.

Yes, it is initially frightening to realise just how psychologically upset the human race really is. We have had to live in Plato’s dark cave of denial while we couldn’t explain and defend our apparently divisive behaviour, and even though the explanation of the human condition is completely redeeming and defending of all humans, the human condition has been such a historically off-limits subject that it is still initially a great shock to have it clearly exposed! As with everything though, understanding puts us in a very powerful position to be able to overcome it, and the most up-to-date explanation of this ‘deaf effect’ as call it, is Jeremy’s new book and presentation The Great Guilt, which we highly recommend.

Thank you for your comment Rebecca. We do suggest that while it takes some time to digest, in time you will realise that rather than merely giving people “some positivity”, what is unique about Jeremy Griffith’s work is that he has answered the essential question of why, when the universal ideals are to be integrative are we so disintegrative? Our endeavours in philosophy, psychology and biology have failed, until now, to provide a truthful, real, fully accountable, genuinely clarifying explanation. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents here. You might find FAQ 6.5 interesting, because it explains the difference between Jeremy’s explanation and new age spirituality.

Yes, while Christianity and other religions contain all manner of truths about human life, it is all from a pre-scientific view. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents which actually reconciles science and religion. You may find these FAQs helpful in your consideration: FAQ 6.2 ‘What is God?’ and FAQ 6.7 ‘How can a scientific explanation ever hope to account for and encompass the great ‘spiritual’ dimension we know exists in life?’.

    While it may seem obvious in retrospect, we suggest that as you digest Jeremy Griffith’s work, you will start to see that what is so unique and significant about it is that it has answered the essential question of why, when the universal ideals are to be integrative are we so disintegrative? Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents here. We suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ and Video/Freedom Essay 4 which expands further on other thinkers (both ancient and contemporary) who have recognised instinct and intellect elements involved in creating the human condition.     By explaining the very good reason why our intellect had to defy our instincts, everything changes. It makes redundant our defensive behaviours of anger, egocentricity and alienation, allowing us to end the perpetuation of our destructive behaviour! You might be interested in our FAQ 1.40 ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’.

Thank you so much for your enthusiastic response, Allison. You can immediately access free electronic copies of Jeremy Griffith’s books, including his definitive book FREEDOM, to read, listen to or download HERE on our homepage. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. Otherwise you can purchase hard copies from Amazon or other good bookstores. And we encourage everyone to pursue their interest and digestion by subscribing to our mailing list to receive free weekly essays and occasional updates and joining our ever-growing Facebook Group!

Practices such as meditation have certainly been invaluable tools in helping us cope with the upset human condition, calm the troubled mind and access our soul, but they ultimately fail to produce a lasting solution to the destruction and devastation we see all around us. Fundamentally they are about transcending, escaping, the pain in our brains, rather than confronting and solving it at its source, which Jeremy Griffith’s treatise does.

As is explained in THE Interview, the human condition has been the most terrifying of subjects to face because it is the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad as a species, and we have necessarily lived in almost total denial of it, so there is a lot to consider and digest, which takes time. With regard to persuading the world to desist its mutually destructive behaviour, we recommend reading our FAQ 1.40, which addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’.

That’s wonderfully helpful Vasile, thank you very much! We do have this share link which makes sharing our website very easy. Also we encourage everyone to subscribe to our free mailing list as a great way to progress your understanding and be informed of new publications and developments at the WTM!

Of course this breakthrough explanation of the human condition includes all humans Frank, and also it doesn’t condone or sanction the horrendous attrocities humans can commit rather, through bringing compassionate understanding to the source of humans’ upset behaviour, it gives us the power to ameliorate and thus subside and ultimately eliminate it (see FAQ 1.38). As THE Interview explains all humans are born with all-loving moral instincts but now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition caused by the conscious mind’s necessary search for knowledge. So we can at last understand WHY as a species we have become psychologically upset—so angry we’re capable of unfair and destructive racist prejudice and discrimination. We can also explain that all ‘races’ (ethnic groups) fall somewhere on the spectrum of either being more sheltered from humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, or more exposed to it, and so are either more innocent or more psychologically upset. We can see that at this point of time Caucasians fall somewhere in the middle, with more psychologically embattled races having ‘peaked’ earlier, and less psychologically embattled races yet to peak (see chapter 8:16E of Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM), however, the truth is that all humans are now part of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, and are therefore nowhere near as innocent as humans were some 2 million years ago when the battle of the human condition first emerged. So the more upset have been overthrowing the less upset since the human condition emerged. However, what is most important is that despite the differing levels of upset due to everyone’s different encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, we are all equally good. Now we can understand the human condition we can see that no person or race is superior or inferior. This desperately needed reconciling understanding of the relationship between races is summarised in FAQ 9.1 and further explained in Freedom Essay 28. Also, for testimonials on the power of this information to end racism, we recommend watching/reading the presentations from Franklin Mukakanga of Zambia, and Refentse Molosiwa of South Africa, in Video/Freedom Essay 8. For example Refentse explains, ‘The wonderful thing about Jeremy’s work is it was just so healing, so reconciling that every form of animosity I ever had to white people or anything like that was all wiped away in an instant!’

To help you progress after watching THE Interview, below are our recommended next steps below. Happy exploring Lenzy! – Subscribe to our free Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. – Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition. Totally free, no registration required. – Read the Key Books by Jeremy Griffith. Totally free to download, no registration required. – Participate in our private Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. – Help this critical new science by sharing it!

The bible describes the “old man” as the selfish part of us ,post instinct driven, and that we can be free by understanding this and deciding to live a life of cooperation and mutual understanding.

Anybody who cares enough to help humanity in this way, is absolutely worthwhile

It’s wonderful to have your interest Tracy. You can immediately access free electronic copies of Jeremy Griffith’s books, including his definitive book FREEDOM, to read, listen to or download HERE on our homepage. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. Otherwise you can purchase hard copies from Amazon or other good bookstores. And we encourage everyone to pursue their interest and digestion by subscribing to our mailing list to receive free weekly essays and occasional updates and joining our ever-growing Facebook Group!

Thanks for your question Gil. All human aggression and anger, in our individual lives right through to international conflicts and war, is ultimately an expression of our psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated human condition. We suggest that as you digest Jeremy Griffith’s understanding of the human condition presented in THE Interview, you will see that the only way we could end our destructive behaviour, and legitimately return to the cooperative and loving state humanity once lived in and we all long for, was through removing the insecurity that was driving that divisive behaviour, which is what Jeremy’s explanation makes possible. We suggest you watch or re-watch THE Interview and then read Freedom Essay 29 ‘Can human conflict ever be bought to an end?'.

Yes there is much to consider and assimilate with this new breakthrough understanding of ourselves Jakob. To help this process these are our recommended next steps! • Subscribe to our free Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. • Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition. Totally free, no registration required. • Read the Key Books by Jeremy Griffith. Totally free to download, no registration required. • Join and participate in our private Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. • Contact your nearest WTM Centre, there are over 60 around the world with many translations available. • Help this critical new science by sharing it!

    While it is true that humans share approximately 98.7% of our DNA with both chimpanzees and bonobos, the evidence reveals that on the basis of physiology, bipedality, environment, intelligence and reduced canine size, that the cooperative and gentle bonobo clearly represents a better model of our human ancestors than the chimpanzee (the evidence is presented in detail in chapter 5 of FREEDOM). It is also important to note that THE Interview begins by explaining how we have sought to blame our aggressive behaviour on genes while we couldn’t provide the real, psychological reason for it.     With regard to consciousness, clearly other animals have various levels of ‘awareness’, or are sentient and able to perceive or feel things, however none are ‘conscious’ in the fundamental sense that none can consciously manage events like humans can. Jeremy explains in THE Interview that consciousness means being sufficiently aware of how experiences are related to attempt to manage change from a basis of understanding cause and effect, and so it is accurate to describe humans as the only animals possessing ‘fully conscious minds’, see FAQ 5.5 ‘Aren’t other animals capable of conscious thought like humans? / How can you say humans are the only fully conscious animals?’