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    What is presented is the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless, we humans are so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. This clash between instinct and intellect is the source of all our insecurity and subsequent anger, egocentricity and alienation, and so explaining it makes all those defensive behaviours redundant.     We suggest you read the very brief summary in FAQ 1.3 and then re-watch THE Interview. FAQ 1.16 is also recommended because it explains our historic fear of the subject of the human condition and the resulting ‘deaf effect’ that often initially causes. So it can take a little time and perseverance to get your head around it this explanation but it’s well worth it as you can see from the daily ecstatic responses on our homepage — people everywhere are so relieved to finally be able to make sense of human life!"

    The realm of the human condition is the most ‘muddied of pools’ with deluded charlatans everywhere, and so the absolutely astonishing claims being made about biologist Jeremy Griffith’s work do warrant initial scepticism, however, what Jeremy is presenting is all first principle-based, rational, testable, biological understanding of the human condition which has attracted the support of eminent scientists and thinkers (see our homepage). And so, while, as with any new scientific breakthrough it may take time for people to realise this is what it says it is, it will catch on, and once it catches on the infectious enthusiasm and selfless love it liberates will spread very quickly. As Jeremy writes in chapter 9:9 of his book FREEDOM, “Although this new world for humans, which the World Transformation Movement has been established to facilitate, will have a slow beginning because humans initially find it difficult even taking in or ‘hearing’ discussion about the human condition, once the WTM is discovered, word of it and what it offers every human and the world will spread like wildfire—as the exceptional denial-free thinking prophet Teilhard de Chardin wrote, ‘The Truth has to only appear once…for it to be impossible for anything ever to prevent it from spreading universally and setting everything ablaze’”.     Regarding vested interests, we recommend FAQ 1.40 which addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’

Hi Ana, thank you very much. On our Translations page you can freely access all our Spanish translations. This includes THE Interview, Jeremy Griffith’s book Death by Dogma, the first 4 chapters of FREEDOM and Freedom Essay 1. The WTM Colombian Centre also presents its website in Spanish, including centre founder Carlos Cruz Blanco’s welcome video, so there is a significant amount of material available! As well you can watch all the videos on our website, using the closed captions or subtitles function in any language (just click on the ‘cc’ icon at the bottom of the video player/window).

Good stuff so far, just beginning to understand somewhat. kutgw👍

Hi Karen, as is explained in our FAQ 1.1, ‘What is the human condition?’, “while it’s undeniable that humans are capable of great love, we also have an unspeakable history of brutality, rape, torture, murder and war. Despite all our marvellous accomplishments, we humans have been the most ferocious and destructive force that has ever lived on Earth—and the eternal question has been ‘why?’ Even in our everyday behaviour, why have we humans been so competitive, selfish and aggressive when clearly the ideals of life are to be the complete opposite, namely cooperative, selfless and loving? In fact, why are we so ruthlessly competitive, selfish and brutal that human life has become all but unbearable and we have nearly destroyed our own planet?! The agony of being unable to truthfully answer this fundamental question of why we are the way we are—divisively instead of cooperatively behaved—has been the particular burden of human life. It has been our species’ particular affliction or condition—our ‘human condition’.” We also recommend reading and/or watching Jeremy Griffith’s presentation, The Great Guilt, which outlines more comprehensively the definition of our human condition, and why engagement with the subject can be initially hard to grasp.

The real issue here is the difference between a more literal fundamentalist interpretation of scripture and our more biological, science-based interpretation. If you prefer the more literal interpretation then we respect your right to do that, as we hope you’ll respect our right to a science-based interpretation. For those interested, we recommend our FAQs on Religion.

What Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition does is explain the dilemma of our ‘good and evil’ stricken existence. As he writes in chapter 1:3 of his definitive book FREEDOM, “we have now finally broken through and found the full truth that explains that humans are wonderful beings after all. In fact, not just wonderful but the heroes of the whole story of life on Earth. This is because our fully conscious mind is surely—given its phenomenal ability to understand the world—nature’s greatest invention, so for us humans who were given this greatest of all inventions to develop, to be made to endure the torture of being unjustly condemned as bad or evil for doing just that, and to have had to endure that torture for so long, some 2 million years (the time we have likely been fully conscious), has to make us the absolute heroes of the story of life on Earth. We were given the hardest, toughest of tasks, and against all the odds we completed it. Humans are the champions of the story of life on Earth. We are so, so wonderful! Yes, we can at last understand the absolutely extraordinary paradox that neither Pascal nor Shakespeare could at all understand, of how on earth could we humans be ‘god’-‘like’ in our ‘infinite’ ‘faculty’ of ‘reason’ and ‘apprehension’, a ‘glor[ious]’, ‘angel’-‘like’ ‘prodigy’ capable of being a ‘judge of all things’ and a ‘repository of truth’, and yet seemingly behave so appallingly that we appear to be ‘monster[s]’, ‘imbecile[s]’, ‘a sewer of uncertainty and error’ and ‘chaos’, the ‘essence’ of ‘dust’, ‘the scum of the universe’. We have made sense of the seemingly nonsensical!!!”

Hi Garikai and Rose (below), it’s great to have your interest. To progress your understanding here are our recommended next steps (all the materials — books, videos and essays — are totally free, no registration required)! • Subscribe to our Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. • Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition in more detail. • Read the Key Books by Jeremy Griffith. • Join and participate in our private Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. • Contact your nearest WTM Centre, there are over 60 around the world with many translations available. • Help this critical new science by sharing it!

That’s great Anne. Re-visiting the presentation is exactly what we recommend. Historically the human condition, the question of our ultimate goodness or worth, has been a terrifying subject, and so even though Jeremy Griffith has now been safely explained it, it takes a little time to erode that initial fear. Also, watching or reading The Great Guilt, is an absolute must! (It is the next presentation after THE Interview.) It’s an astonishingly beautiful and revealing presentation that takes you back to when the human condition first emerged in humans and comprehensively explains our fear of the human condition is a result of the shame and guilt we feel for having corrupted our all-loving and sensitive soul. You can access it here on our website.

Thanks for your further comment Kelly, it is wonderful this explanation is helping your understanding. Now, at last we can compassionately explain why we haven’t been able to give unconditional love to ourselves, each other and our children. In this interview, and his definitive book FREEDOM, Jeremy Griffith explains the importance of nurturing in the maturation of humanity and in our own lives, but because humanity’s necessary preoccupation with finding knowledge compromised our ability to nurture, it has been one of those extremely confronting truths that humans, without understanding of the corrupting journey to find knowledge, have had no choice but to largely live in denial of. We highly recommend you read chapter 6:13 of FREEDOM titled, ‘Nurturing now becomes a priority’. There Jeremy explains that “now that we have found that very good reason why parents have been unable to nurture their children with anything like the unconditional love children instinctively expect and need, it is no longer necessary to deny the importance of nurturing both in the maturation of our species and in our own lives. Yes, with the arrival of understanding the terrible guilt that parents have felt for not being able to adequately nurture their offspring departs. Parents can now understand that their inability to adequately love their offspring is not their fault, but the product of the ever-accumulating levels of upset in the human race as a whole that resulted from our species’ heroic 2-million-year search for knowledge, specifically for self-knowledge, understanding of why we conscious humans are good and not bad. So yes, we can finally now admit the importance of nurturing and turn our attention back to the nurturing of our offspring—in fact, it now becomes a matter of great urgency that we do both these things.”

As THE Interview explains all humans are born with all-loving moral instincts but now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition caused by the conscious mind’s necessary search for knowledge. So yes at last we can understand WHY as a species we have become psychologically upset—so competitive and aggressive as to want to dominate and control others. We can also explain that all ‘races’ (ethnic groups) fall somewhere on the spectrum of either being more sheltered from humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, or more exposed to it, and so are either more innocent or more psychologically upset, however, the truth is that all humans are now part of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, and are therefore nowhere near as innocent as humans were some 2 million years ago when the battle of the human condition first emerged. So the more upset have been overthrowing the less upset since the human condition emerged. However, what is most important is that despite the differing levels of upset, due to everyone’s different encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, we are all equally good. Now we can understand the human condition we can see that no person or race is superior or inferior. You might like to read our FAQ 9.1 about how this puts an end to racism, and for a testimonial on the power of this knowledge to end racism, we recommend the presentations from Franklin Mukakanga and Refentse Molosiwa in Video/Freedom Essay 8.

    Despite our competitive and selfish behaviour, we humans have always intuitively believed we were fundamentally good, but we have never been able to explain this contradictory, conflicted condition. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why we are fundamentally good—answer the age-old question of why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents here. We suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’     It is totally free David and at no point is there any cost involved. The World Transformation Movement is a global not-for-profit organisation. This is a scientific pursuit and we make all our publications (including books, videos and podcasts), subscription and membership freely available on our website.

Hi Anthony, you can access all of Jeremy Griffith’s key books, including THE Interview and his main book FREEDOM, HERE on our homepage. They are all free to read online, download, print or listen to. You can also download the free Kindle versions from Amazon. Otherwise you can purchase hard copies from Amazon or other good bookstores.

Thanks for your thoughts Sharon. THE Interview suggests there is a deeper explanation for our behaviour. We agree we are born pure or ‘good’ but our greedy and corrupt behaviour is a result of a psychologically upsetting clash between our intellect and preestablished instinctive loving self, rather than conditioning. It is this insight into the psychological origin of our ‘bad’ behaviour that is unique about Jeremy Griffith’s work; and most significantly, this understanding means that our psychologically upset state can be ameliorated, because a psychosis can be healed through understanding. You may find FAQ 1.40 of interest as it addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’

Hi Charles, the human condition is the underlying issue in all human affairs, and our hitherto lack of understanding of it is where human progress has been stalled. To be able to advance we must confront and solve the human condition which is what Jeremy Griffith does in THE Interview. As anthropologist Dr David J. Chivers said, Jeremy Griffith’s work “provides the necessary breakthrough in the critical issue of needing to understand ourselves” (see this and many more commendations here on our homepage).

Hi Michael, this understanding is transforming and healing the world right now — just explore our Transformation page and join our Facebook Group to see it in action! However while this biological understanding of the human condition really is the universal solution to all the problems we face, it does have a slow start-up phase. Jeremy Griffith explains this in Part 2 of THE Interview, when he points out that the issue of the human condition has been such a denied and off-limits subject that confronting it represents the ‘biggest of all blasphemies’, and how ‘science progresses funeral by funeral’ when it comes to supporting big paradigm shifts like this, see FAQ 1.14 ‘Why aren’t these ideas mainstream? / If these ideas are so true and important then why haven’t I heard of them?’

Yes the biology presented is absolutely fascinating Charles. Certainly there has been a recognition in literature (and by profound thinkers generally) that there must be something better than our current human condition afflicted state. While it takes some time to digest, we suggest that what is unique about Jeremy Griffith’s work is that he has answered the essential question of why, when the universal ideals are to be integrative are we so disintegrative? Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents here. In the end it only getting to the bottom of the human condition that could fulfil Richard Bach’s allegoral quest for perfection and now we have this key understanding the practical application of the answer is actually very simple! You might like to explore our Transformation page that further illustrates the extraordinary transformation of the human race that is possible including personal affirmations that demonstrate how this has transformed people’s lives and that of their families.

It is totally free Steve and at no point is there any cost involved. The World Transformation Movement is a global not-for-profit organisation. This is a scientific pursuit and we make all our publications (including books, videos and podcasts), subscription and membership freely available on our website – see our FAQs about the WTM.

Yes there is certainly a lot to absorb Bernice but your suspicion is spot on — ONLY solving of the human condition will make the world better and stop its suffering. To progress your understanding here are our recommended next steps (all totally free, no registration required)! • Subscribe to our Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. • Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition in more detail. • Read the Key Books by Jeremy Griffith. • Join and participate in our private Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. • Contact your nearest WTM Centre, there are over 60 around the world with many translations available. • Help this critical new science by sharing it!

Our brief FAQ 1.5 titled ‘Why is understanding the human condition important to my life?’ answers your question Lora. To quote a paragraph: "In summary, the eternal battle for humans has been to validate ourselves, establish once and for all that we are fundamentally good and not bad, and it’s that deepest and most important of all battles that has finally been won. Solving the human condition solves all the confusion, frustration and suffering in human life at its source."

What is so important about Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition is that it finally explains the real reason for why humans’ competitive and power-hungry behaviour became an unavoidable, indeed necessary, part of human life. Proving we were better than someone else or attacking the innocence of animals gave us validation and reinforcement to counter the deep insecurity we felt about having to become self-corrupted. And so competition, sustained by the incentives of capitalism, are what maintained humanity’s heroic search for knowledge, ultimately for self-knowledge. With our goodness and worth now biologically established, we no longer need to be preoccupied with proving our goodness and worth. Solving the human condition solves all the confusion, frustration and suffering in human life at its source so we can actually stop the destruction of ourselves and save the world. See FAQ 1.6 ‘How understanding solves everything’ and FAQ 1.40 'How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’

Thank you for your comment Hedva. While religions contain all manner of truths about human life, it is all from a pre-scientific view. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish — why do we need to try and ‘fix’ ourselves to ‘become more loving’. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents. With the benefit of science, thankfully we can now explain that they, we humans, weren’t bad to have ‘fallen from grace’ or become psychologically upset at all; in fact, we are the heroes of the story of life on Earth! You might be interested in the WTM’s FAQs about religion which explain that religion deserves praise for being a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing all the truth about human life albeit from a pre-scientific view.

I found this very interesting, even a little enlightening. Even if you don’t subscribe to the idea, how could this possibly hurt the Human race. With all the craziness and cruelty we’re induring, we have to try something. The current way the world is heading obviously doesn’t work so a new thinking paradigm is needed. I see no reason to not try. I was even more impressed at the fact that this was offered at no cost. The first move has been made, now it’s our turn. Thank you.

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It is really wonderful to have your interest, Paul. Yes, humanity has tried the new age method of self-affirmation, but ultimately the only thing that could stop the ever increasing levels of upset and bring true affirmation was the rational, biological explanation of why we are worthwhile, which is what Jeremy Griffith has presented. We hope you pursue your interest by subscribing to our mailing list to stay abreast of all the exciting developments and receive a free, explanatory essay each week. Also our Facebook Group provides a platform for participating in, or just observing, fascinating and honest discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science. (Note, FAQ 6.5 explains the critical difference between Jeremy’s work and new age, self-techniques).

Essentially, Ric, we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are humans so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. The human condition manifests in different ways in all as a result of our own experiences and exposure to the world, but the clash between instinct and intellect is the source of all our insecurity and subsequent anger, egocentricity and alienation, and so explaining it makes all those defensive behaviours redundant. To help with your digestion, we suggest you read the very brief summary in FAQ 1.3.

That’s great to hear, Binayok, thank you! There is nothing more fascinating than reading FREEDOM which is immediately available for free HERE on our homepage. This link also presents Jeremy Griffith’s other key books. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon, where you can also purchase hardcopies if you’d prefer.

That’s wonderful feedback, Matthew, and so appreciated! Our homepage — HumanCondition.com — is the perfect place to learn more (and it is all FREE, and no registration required)! At the top of the homepage it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and leads you through the steps to pursue your interest! We encourage you to subscribe to our mailing list to stay abreast of all the exciting developments and receive a free, explanatory essay each week. Also our Facebook Group provides a platform for participating in, or just observing, interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science.

Thank you! Your video can change my attitude toward the right direction

I’m at a loss to know what to say! I’m going to listen again and let it sink in!!

Hi Esther, you can access all of Jeremy Griffith’s key books, including THE Interview and his main book FREEDOM, HERE on our homepage. Jeremy has published nine books on the human condition and they are all free to read online/download/print. You can also download the free Kindle versions from Amazon. (Hard copies can be purchased from Amazon or other good bookstores.) Also, to pursue your interest you might like subscribe to our mailing list to receive free weekly essays and occasional updates.

Hi Luis, on our Translations page you can freely access all our Spanish translations. This includes THE Interview, Jeremy Griffith’s book Death by Dogma, the first 4 chapters of FREEDOM and Freedom Essay 1. The WTM Colombian Centre also presents its website in Spanish, including centre founder Carlos Cruz Blanco’s welcome video, so there is a significant amount of material available! As well you can watch all the videos on our website, using the closed captions or subtitles function in any language (just click on the ‘cc’ icon at the bottom of the video player/window).

Thank you for your comment, James. There is a huge amount to get your head around, which takes a little time, but now we can understand the human condition, we can see that everyone has suffered from it, and all our institutions, including our media, have been a manifestation of our insecure, psychologically upset condition. Only solving the human condition, addressing the source of our selfish psychological upset (what historically has been termed ‘evil’), could we achieve real and lasting change and stop the destruction of our world that is happening everywhere we look. You may find these FAQs helpful, FAQ 1.6 ‘Why does understanding solve everything’ and FAQ 1.40 ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power?’

Hi Kimberly, we appreciate your interest and keeness to understand. Essentially we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are humans so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. The human condition manifests in different ways in all as a result of our own experiences and exposure to the world, but the clash between instinct and intellect is the source of all our insecurity and subsequent anger, egocentricity and alienation, and so explaining it makes all those defensive behaviours redundant. To help with your digestion, we suggest you read the very brief summary in FAQ 1.3 and then re-watch THE Interview. Also watching the video series that follows THE Interview is great as that series elaborates on what’s been presented — so there’ll be some repetition, but going over the concepts in more detail does help with the understanding and absorption of them.

Hi Takele, you just need to click on the ‘Watch More’ button at the bottom right of the Ad, or you can freely watch, listen to, read or download THE Interview at HumanCondition.com.

Thanks for your suggestion Tony. Paradise Lost (the 1667 masterpiece written by the English poet John Milton) certainly evidences the elements of instinct and intellect that produced our condition. You may be interested to read Freedom Essay 53, a fascinating essay in which Jeremy Griffith discusses some of history’s most profound thinkers, including John Milton, and the evidence they provide for the three fundamental elements involved in the explanation of the human condition: that our conscious mind caused our upset state to emerge; that the human condition is a psychological state, not an instinctive one; and that our species’ original instinctive orientation was to living in a psychosis-free, peaceful and harmonious state of cooperation, love and selflessness. It also explains what was missing from the analysis of all these other thinkers was the ability to explain WHY this conflict between our instincts and intellect occurred. What Jeremy is presenting is this all-important answer, all-important because it is only this clarifying, redeeming and reconciling explanation of the nature of the struggle between our instinctive self and conscious self that at last brings peace to our divided selves, and transforms the human race! Also see FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this idea original or new? / How does biologist Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition differ from other theories that recognise these elements?’ and FAQ 2.2 '‘Who are some thinkers that Jeremy Griffith admires?’

    Great to have your interest and question Dale, thank you. Part 3 of THE Interview explains the ‘love-indoctrination’ process, which biologist Jeremy Griffith has identified as the unlocking point, or trigger, for our species to develop our altruistic, moral instinctive self or soul and our unique consciousness. The biology involved in this process is absolutely fascinating, see our FAQs 5.2 ‘How did we humans acquire our all-loving, unconditionally selfless moral conscience?’ and 5.4 ‘What is consciousness? / Why is it that humans became conscious while other animals haven’t? / How did consciousness emerge in humans?’. (These, and other relevant FAQs to your question, are in The Great Scientific Questions section of our FAQ facility.) Also you can read about the nurturing-based love-indoctrination process in greater detail in chapter 5 of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM, and how it liberated consciousness in chapter 6. You can also read summaries of these chapters in Freedom Essays 21 and 24 respectively.     In terms of the foundation of the alienating war that is when our intellect wrested control from our instincts and began its search for understanding. When this happened our instincts in effect criticised the conscious mind, and the result was the psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated state that characterises the human condition. So the human condition was the war between our emerging conscious mind, and our preestablished loving – but dictatorial – instincts.

    It is free Jim. The work of the WTM is a scientific pursuit and was not created for profit, so all of our information and materials (including books, videos and podcasts) are provided absolutely free of charge at HumanCondition.com (no email required).     Also, Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition has received outstanding commendations from leading thinkers and scientists, which you can read HERE. For instance Professor Stuart Hurlbert, esteemed ecologist, said: 'I am stunned & honored to have lived to see the coming of “Darwin II”’.

Thank you for this very important information on the human condition. It explains alot.