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Hi Michael, it’s wonderful to have your interest. At top of our homepage HumanCondition.com, it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes accessing Jeremy Griffith’s key books (for free), and subscribing to our (also free) mailing list where you will receive one email per week and occasional News Flashes. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world.

Hi Tony, what is so significant about Jeremy Griffith’s treatise is it explains why humans had to bring “change in the world” and also that they have taken up the “responsibility” of doing so. THE Interview reveals that all humans are born with an all-loving, moral instincts but to champion our fully conscious mind we had to become psychologically upset and alienated from this original selfless state because of our mind’s necessary, and indeed heroic, search for knowledge. It is that defence of our ‘dark side’, through finding the good reason that we had to defy our instincts and “change the world”, that means all our defensive behaviours (our anger, egocentricity and alienation) are now redundant. We no longer need them because we have the real defense for why we had to defy our instincts. We hope you watch THE Interview and you might find this FAQ 1.6 ‘Why does understanding the human condition solve everything’ helpful to read.

Hi Rander and thank you for your comment. It takes a bit of consideration and time to see how this critical new science stops our selfishness but because it addresses the core insecurity that has been driving it, it actually does. What biologist Jeremy Griffith explains is that our distant ancestors overcame the selfish genetic driven ‘animal condition’ and developed loving and cooperative instincts some 2 million years ago through the nurturing based love-indoctrination process, and it is this that distinguishes humans from other primates and animals. Until now how we acquired our moral sense, or cooperative instincts that enabled our “mutual co existence”, has been one of the great unanswered scientific questions. Primatologist Richard Wrangham described it as “A question that has lain unsolved at the core of biology ever since Darwin”, and Darwin himself described it as the “one special difficulty” with his concept of natural selection. (The science of the love-indoctrination process is introduced in Part 3 of THE Interview and fully presented in Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM chapter 5. For a summary see FAQ 5.2 ‘How did we humans acquire our all-loving, unconditionally selfless moral conscience?’.) This biological distinction—that humans suffer from the conscious-mind-based, psychologically troubled human condition, not the genetic-opportunism-based, animal condition—is key because, as Part 4 explains, a psychosis can be healed with understanding. So our psychologically upset human nature is fixable or changeable—not unchangeable, which is what it would essentially be if our selfishness was instinctive; if it was something that is in our genes and we were born with. There is no “control” needed because with our source insecurity understood all our selfish behaviour (our anger, egocentricity and alienation) becomes redundant which is explained in this fascinating FAQ 1.40 ‘Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’

Fully understand has blown my mind and understood everything you were saying thank you so much jeremy.x

Out of this world

Hi Di-Anne and thank you for your comment. Being able to at last explain the human condition does make sense of our lives no matter whether we’ve tried to hold onto the ideals or decided to deny them and either way was alienating one way or another. Thank goodness Jeremy Griffith has brought first principle science to what we have intuitively known but haven’t been able to explain as now we can it reconciles all our positions and ends our estrangement from our true selves and each other. It couldn’t be a bigger breakthrough which FAQ 1.5 ‘Why is this understanding the human condition important to my life’ summarises! Also you may find FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this idea original or new’ of interest .

Hi Ron, yes as Terri says below, this understanding brings new hope to all our lives! We can now understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness, so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because we have the first principle science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it. So instead of being focused on power, fame, fortune and glory, all our energies will be freed to truly work together on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering and save our world and yes that includes those in power, see FAQ 1.40 which addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?'.

Absolutely Wendy! The meaning Jeremy Griffith’s work brings to our lives is astonishing because it explains why are we capable of such contradictory behaviour as to be selfless and loving but also selfish and destructive!! Until that riddle could be solved we have lived with a deep sense of unworthiness and insecurity and all we could do was close our mind to the entire subject of the human condition. If you haven’t already watched The Great Guilt (the companion presentation to THE Interview) you will be enthralled as it is a beautiful and revealing presentation that takes you back to when the human condition first emerged and explains just how sensitive and at one we were with each other and all of nature (why sensitive training techniques lie the one you mention can produce a true and empathetic connection between humans and animals) and comprehensively explains our fear of the human condition is a result of the shame and guilt we feel for having corrupted our all-loving and sensitive soul. You can access The Great Guilt here on our website.

Thanks for your comment Lee and we thought you might enjoy reading our FAQ 5.4 ‘What is consciousness? / Why is it that humans became conscious while other animals haven’t? / How did consciousness emerge in humans?’ as it might help further in your discussions with your partner. Also, as THE Interview mentions, chapter 7 of Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM provides the more detailed explanation for how we humans became fully conscious when other species haven’t.

Kia ora Jeremy I have struggled all my life an lived in darkness trying to find the real me an just in the last hour listening to you had made common sense I have known this all my life but found it hard to unlock an now I you have shown me the key so I may be able to set myself free thank you I would like to know more please love an light from AOTEAROA (New Zealand)

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I want to know more.

Yes, Rhys – as Carl Jung famously said, “wholeness for humans depends on the ability to own our own shadow”, and what Jeremy Grifith has provided is the all-important enlightening, redeeming, reconciling and psychologically rehabilitating explanation for why the conflict between our instincts and our consciousness occurred, producing the upset state of the human condition. Until that was found, humans couldn’t relieve ourselves of that “darkness”. This is why this understanding is being heralded as the biological breakthrough “Solution” that can save the world.

    Very good question Asha. We can now understand that while the corrupting search for liberating knowledge was underway religion played a significant role as both the custodian of the ideal state and as a means of solace for those exhausted by the corrupting journey. However, it follows that with the redeeming biological understanding of why we had to depart from our original innocence now found, those metaphysical, faith-based accounts that looked after us are now redundant. In fact, what people discover is Jeremy Griffith’s work actually reconciles science and religion by bringing biological understanding to pre-scientific concepts. In fact, it presents the fulfilment of a time that all religions looked forward to when we could actually explain ourselves, see FAQ 6.3 ‘Does this undermine religion/God’.     The other aspect of your question deals with people’s egocentric attachment to ideas. We suggest that as you digest this understanding you will see that everyone, no matter how egocentric, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete their strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real biological explanation of the human condition that proves our worth at the most fundamental level. You might be interested in our FAQ 1.40, which addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’

Yes, nurturing is what created humanity – it is how we developed our all-loving instinctive self or moral soul (see FAQ 4.2). However, under the duress of the human condition our ability to nurture has been severely compromised, but now that all our preoccupied behaviour has been defended by the explanation of the human condition, that preoccupation ends and nurturing will again become humanity’s central focus.

Hi Glenn, your concern is addressed in our FAQ 1.40 ‘How can you hope to transform the world? – In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’. It is explained there that even those who are most committed to seeking validation through gaining power and wealth, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, biological explanation of the human condition that establishes our worth at the most fundamental level.

Clearly, while other animals have various levels of ‘awareness’, or are sentient and able to perceive or feel things, none are ‘conscious’ in the fundamental sense that none can consciously manage events like humans can. Jeremy Griffith explains in THE Interview that consciousness means being sufficiently aware of how experiences are related to attempt to manage change from a basis of understanding cause and effect, and so it is accurate to describe humans as the only animals possessing ‘fully conscious minds’, see FAQ 5.5 ‘Aren’t other animals capable of conscious thought like humans? / How can you say humans are the only fully conscious animals?’ Also we recommend Chapter 7 of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM which provides a comprehensive explanation of how full consciousness developed in humans as a result of nurturing or the love-indoctrination process which is absolutely fascinating (summarised in FAQ 5.4 ‘What is consciousness? / Why is it that humans became conscious while other animals haven’t? / How did consciousness emerge in humans?’).

Thanks for your comment, VJK. Biologist Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition allows us to understand the real merits and liabilities of both the left and right wing. His work certainly recognises the destructive brutality of the right-wing; indeed he brings understanding to the whole extremely destructive angry, egocentric and alienated human condition. He also recognises the failing of the Left, which is that its dogmatic insistence on cooperative, selfless and loving behaviour stifled and oppressed the freedom of expression and individualism needed to find knowledge, ultimately self-knowledge, the redeeming understanding of our seemingly destructive human condition that thankfully he has now found and presents in his book FREEDOM. Basically his work brings profound understanding to both sides, which ultimately brings to an end the whole ugly business of politics. This is fully explained in our FAQs about politics.

Material needed to keep for the future generations of the education systems world wide.

While it takes some time to digest, we suggest that what is unique about Jeremy Griffith’s work is that he has answered the essential question of why, when the universal ideals are to be integrative are we so disintegrative? Our endeavours in philosophy, psychology and biology have failed, until now, to provide a truthful, real, fully accountable, genuinely clarifying explanation. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents here. We suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ and Video/Freedom Essay 4 which expands further on other thinkers (both ancient and contemporary) who have recognised instinct and intellect elements involved in creating the human condition.

Very curious about the great compliments this interview is getting.

    Thank you Priyanka. Yes, we can now understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness, an insecurity caused by our all-loving instincts’ tragic but inevitable ‘criticism’ of our intellect’s necessary search for knowledge.     This understanding also allows us to appreciate the role of religion: it has been the custodian of the ideal state during humanity’s corrupting journey to find knowledge, and a means of solace for those exhausted by that journey. Our FAQs about religion provide a wealth of insight into this important and fascinating subject.

We wanted to respond with this magnificent passage from chapter 6:13 of Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM (this chapter is titled, ‘Nurturing now becomes a priority’), because it provides a reassuring view on how, with compassionate understanding of the human condition, we can now appreciate that while humanity’s necessary preoccupation with finding knowledge compromised our ability to nurture, now that that preoccupation ends we can safely acknowledge the absolute importance of nurturing in our species’ development, and in its future. Jeremy writes, “now that we have found that very good reason why parents have been unable to nurture their children with anything like the unconditional love children instinctively expect and need, it is no longer necessary to deny the importance of nurturing both in the maturation of our species and in our own lives. Yes, with the arrival of understanding the terrible guilt that parents have felt for not being able to adequately nurture their offspring departs. Parents can now understand that their inability to adequately love their offspring is not their fault, but the product of the ever-accumulating levels of upset in the human race as a whole that resulted from our species’ heroic 2-million-year search for knowledge, specifically for self-knowledge, understanding of why we conscious humans are good and not bad. So yes, we can finally now admit the importance of nurturing and turn our attention back to the nurturing of our offspring—in fact, it now becomes a matter of great urgency that we do both these things.”

Yes, Susan, Jeremy Griffith’s fully accountable, first-principle-based biological understanding of the human condition has received outstanding commendations from leading thinkers, scientists and the general public, which you view more of here. We very much hope you pursue your interest after watching THE Interview by joining our mailing list, where you will receive one free email per week and occasional updates about live events and other exciting developments. We also recommend joining our Facebook Group for helpful and thought-provoking conversations.

Thank you so much Barry; we very much appreciate your consideration. Yes, there are huge parallels between Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition and Christianity; in fact we would suggest that what has been done here is that biological understanding has been brought to religious accounts of our condition, which means we can at last reconcile science and religion. For instance, as THE Interview explains, the story of Adam and Eve is a pre-scientific metaphor for the emergence of consciousness and its clash with our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts, resulting in humans becoming psychologically upset or ‘sinful’ or ‘evil’. However, significantly we can now understand, from scientific first principles, that ‘Adam and Eve’ were actually ‘good’ to search for knowledge, not bad or ‘evil’; we humans are actually the absolute heroes of the whole story! It establishes that we are good and not bad after all. What THE Interview presents fundamentally lifts the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race and allows us to forgive ourselves and others and finally end our psychologically troubled human condition—it couldn’t be a bigger breakthrough. You might be interested in our FAQs about religion, especially 6.2 ‘What is God’ and 6.3 ‘Does this understanding undermine religion’.

Hi Ronald, key to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that all humans are born with all-loving moral instincts, not ‘savage’ animal instincts, but now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition caused by the conscious mind’s necessary search for knowledge and, in the extreme, that psychologically conflicted upset state produces extremely angry and war-like behaviour. Most significantly, this psychosis can be healed with understanding — a revelation that transforms the human race. So we can now understand that war, barbarism, greed and inequality are all symptoms of the human condition and can be remedied with this understanding of it. You might be interested in FAQ 1.40, which addresses the questions of: Aren’t the problems of the world too overwhelming to ever be fixed? / Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?

Thank you for your comment Manzoor. We certainly respect people’s religious views and wanted to mention that Jeremy Griffith’s work doesn’t contradict a belief in religion or God. In fact Jeremy has a deep respect for religious scripture which he often considers to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing the truth about human life albeit from a pre-science view, which his work simply brings biological understanding to. This is explained in our FAQ 6.3 ‘Does understanding of the human condition undermine a faith in religion or God?’.

Thanks Aaron and given the state of the world your lack of optimism is understandable however this new science reveals all humans are born with all-loving moral instincts, not ‘savage’ animal instincts, but now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition caused by the conscious mind’s necessary search for knowledge and, in the extreme, that psychologically conflicted upset state produces extremely angry and destructive behaviour. And, most significantly, this psychosis can be healed with understanding — a revelation that transforms the human race. Of course this breakthrough explanation doesn’t condone or sanction the horrendous attrocities humans can commit rather, through bringing compassionate understanding to the source of humans’ upset behaviour, it gives us the power to ameliorate and thus subside and ultimately eliminate it, see FAQ 1.38 Aren’t some people just born psychopathic, or even ‘evil’? Also, you may find FAQ 1.40 ‘Aren’t the problems of the world too overwhelming to ever be fixed? / Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world?’ helpful.

Hi Joseph, while great care has been taken to present the explanation as quickly and simply as possible (which is done in Part 1 of THE Interview), opening up the underlying issue in all human affairs of the human condition does mean that there are several absolutely critical questions to be answered, which make up Parts 2, 3 & 4 of THE Interview. However, FAQ 1.3 presents a very brief summary of the key ‘instinct vs intellect’ concept. As Craig Conway observes in this interview, while this fundamental ‘genes vs nerves’ explanation is extraordinarily simple, it is “so far-reaching in its ramifications” that there is much to explain. So we hope you continue to pursue your interest and after THE Interview we highly recommend watching it’s companion presentation The Great Guilt where Jeremy Griffith explains more comprehensively the definition of our human condition and why engagement with the subject can be initially hard to grasp.

Our homepage—HumanCondition.com—has it all there for you Chavier, and it is all 100% FREE (no registration required)! So watch or read THE Interview and from there the ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?' map guides you through the steps to pursue your interest, which includes subscribing to our mailing list and joining our booming Facebook Group!

What is so extraordinary about this breakthrough is we can now understand the fundamental reason why people want more than they need; we can now understand the source of greed and competition and the need for power – and it isn’t money. When the conscious mind went in search of knowledge a conflict between our instinct and intellect broke out, leading to an undeserved sense of guilt and insecurity that caused us to become psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric, the upset state we refer to as the human condition—a state we sought to alleviate through a competitive, selfish and aggressive bid for the reinforcement we could gain from winning power, fame, fortune and glory. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict and the guilt it produced, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition. We suggest these two FAQs will help as you digest this further.  FAQ 1.6 ‘Why does understanding of the human condition solve everything?’ and FAQ 1.40 ‘Aren’t the problems of the world too overwhelming to ever be fixed? / Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’.

    The first point we would make is that ‘truth’ is not ‘relative’. For example, Darwin’s theory of natural selection is either true or not; certainly new facts may alter it, but its truth doesn’t depend on the generation or outlook of the listener.     With regard to your suggestion that morality is also a ‘relative’ concept, the central tenet of Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that humans have a cooperative, loving instinctive heritage, not a brutish, savage and aggressive one, and that the source of our aggression is a psychosis that has been compounding ever since the instinct and intellect clashed some 2 million years ago. It follows then that the further back in history we go, even if only a few generations, the less psychologically upset our ancestors were. If you go way back, you will find the ‘Golden Age’ as recorded by writers such as Hesiod, Plato and Moses. The point is that we can now understand the progression in psychological upset from generation to generation, a rate of progression that is now increasing at alarming rates (see Freedom Essay 55). We can now understand however, that real morality is not relative - it is based on unconditional love and is a reflection of our all-loving instinctive self or soul, the voice of which is our conscience.

Hi Ezekiel, we wanted to let you and readers of this comment that Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition is freely available in many different formats HERE on our homepage — so you can read it online or download it and even print your own copy immediately! Jeremy’s other key books, including the booklet version of this summary presentation in THE Interview, are also freely available at this link and you can also download the free Kindle versions from Amazon. Otherwise you can purchase hard copies of Jeremy’s books from Amazon or other good bookstores.

Thank you very much, Andrew, for your considered feedback. Part 4 of THE Interview, titled ‘How does the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible actually occur?’, explains that it will take a number of generations for the upset within us to be completely healed but importantly, it also stresses we can be immediately free of its effects. Certainly there is habituation to overcome and humans do find change difficult, but at last we can understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because we have the first principle science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it. So while this necessarily has a slow start, humanity’s uptake of the explanation of the human condition has a fast finish as the excitement and joy it brings means everyone will want to get on board as quickly as they can. FAQ 1.40 addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’. It is explained there that even those who are most committed to seeking validation through gaining power and wealth, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, biological explanation of the human condition that establishes our worth at the most fundamental level.

Yes, we can now understand that like our distant ancestors, the bonobos have undergone love-indoctrination (see Part 3 of THE Interview), and as a result are extremely nurturing of their young. It also follows that indigenous peoples, not having undergone the corrupting search for knowledge as much as some other races, retain some of that nurturing capacity. That being said, we thought it important to end this reply with this magnificent passage from chapter 6:13 of FREEDOM (which is titled, ‘Nurturing now becomes a priority’), because it provides a reassuring view on how, with compassionate understanding of the human condition, we can now appreciate that while humanity’s necessary preoccupation with finding knowledge compromised our ability to nurture, now that that preoccupation ends, we can safely acknowledge the absolute importance of nurturing in our species’ development, and in its future: “now that we have found that very good reason why parents have been unable to nurture their children with anything like the unconditional love children instinctively expect and need, it is no longer necessary to deny the importance of nurturing both in the maturation of our species and in our own lives. Yes, with the arrival of understanding the terrible guilt that parents have felt for not being able to adequately nurture their offspring departs. Parents can now understand that their inability to adequately love their offspring is not their fault, but the product of the ever-accumulating levels of upset in the human race as a whole that resulted from our species’ heroic 2-million-year search for knowledge, specifically for self-knowledge, understanding of why we conscious humans are good and not bad. So yes, we can finally now admit the importance of nurturing and turn our attention back to the nurturing of our offspring—in fact, it now becomes a matter of great urgency that we do both these things.”

Hi Mo, our homepage — HumanCondition.com — provides a wonderful road map to progress with all our key material made freely available and you can register to recieve free weekly Freedom Essays each week explaining this immensely relieving understanding in bite size pieces. Also our Facebook Group provides a wonderful platform for participating in, or just observing, interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science.

    Hi Sergio, as explained in our response to Costel below, while the upset within us will take generations to be completely healed, importantly we can all be immediately free of its effects. We can at last understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. This is the rapidly rehabilitating and transforming effect of being able to understand the human condition. This transformation is explained in Freedom Essay 15 ‘How our lives can be immediately transformed’, while the Transformation section of our website is brimming with invaluable insight, counsel and personal affirmations.     Regarding theology, the human condition is the study of humans’ capacity for so-called ‘good and evil’ and is the realm of inquiry where science and religion overlap, so in explaining the human condition religion is demystified and explained. In fact, what people discover is by bringing biological understanding to all the pre-scientific concepts contained in religious scripture, Jeremy Griffith’s explanation represents the fulfilment of a time that all religions looked forward to when we could actually explain ourselves, see FAQ 6.3 ‘Aren’t all Griffith’s demystifications of religious teachings going to be seen by supporters of religion as blasphemy? / Does understanding of the human condition undermine a faith in religion or God? / How does this affect my personal religious practice? / How can you reconcile the explanation of the human condition that defends the upset state with religious teachings that condemn upset?’

Hi John, Jeremy Griffith considers the Bible to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing all the truth about human life albeit from a pre-science perspective, and he has written about Christ’s life and its phenomenal importance in humanity’s journey in Freedom Essay 39. You might also find our FAQs about religion of interest.