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Wonderful to learn of your interest David. At last we have the explanation that biologically establishes humans fundamental goodness which humanism upholds. That is the great breakthrough Jeremy Griffith’s treatise, presented in THE Interview, represents. He solves the dilemma of human condition of ‘why, when the ideals are to be loving and selfless, are we so competitive and selfish?’ by clarifying the difference between the way the intellect and instincts work. We suggest what is so significant about this treatise is it is completely reconciling of all the dualities that the human condition has caused including believers and non-believers. Having been unable, until now, to explain the human condition—which is the dilemma of our species’ capacity for what has been called ‘good and evil’—the human race has been left with a deep, subconscious sense of insecurity and even guilt about our fundamental worth, leaving us no choice but to live in near total denial of the issue and take up a strategy to prove our self-worth. (It is this deep insecurity that is the source of our selfishness, and which religion at least brought up some honesty about – the role of science and religion is discussed in FAQ 1.15.) Until we could scientifically explain why we are good after all some people relied on dogmatic and religious assurances about their fundamental goodness and for others complete denial of God became the only acceptable option. (In addition to FAQ 1.15, people can read about ‘What is the meaning of life? / What is the Integrative Meaning of existence? / What is God?’ in FAQ 5.3 and atheism and secularism in Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM chapter 8:16:I.)

That’s wonderful to hear Nikoi!! We all need to share and celebrate this critical new science as much as we possibly can! Everything on the WTM website is freely available to share, including THE Interview where there is a ‘SHARE’ button underneath the video player at the top of the homepage HumanCondition.com!!

Thank you for your important question Wade. THE Interview explains all humans are born with loving moral instincts but we now variously suffer from a psychosis brought about by the conscious mind’s necessary yet corrupting search for knowledge. In the extreme, this psychologically conflicted upset state produces extremely shocking acts of violence which is addressed in our FAQ 1.38 titled ‘Aren’t some people just born psychopathic, or even ‘evil’? / How does this explanation rehabilitate people capable of ‘evil’ behaviour? / Does this condone ‘evil’ behaviour?’. To quote: “The agonising psychologically upset state of the human condition has created an extremely frustrated and ferociously angry ‘dark side’ in humans, which has meant we are capable of horrific acts. As biologist Jeremy Griffith describes in his definitive book on the human condition, FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition: ‘despite our species’ magnificent mental capabilities, and undeniable capacity for immense sensitivity and love, behind every wondrous scientific achievement, sensitive artistic expression and compassionate act lies the shadow of humanity’s darker side—an unspeakable history of greed, hatred, rape, torture, murder and war; a propensity for deeds of shocking violence, depravity, indifference and cruelty.’ ... At long last we have the reason for humans’ capacity for shocking acts of cruelty, sadism, hate, murder and warfare—we now know the source of the dark volcanic forces in us humans [but] ... Importantly, this understanding of why we became upset as a species does not condone or sanction ‘evil’, rather, through bringing understanding to humans’ upset behaviour, it gives us the power to ameliorate and thus subside and ultimately eliminate it—and, in the short term, to transcend all that upset and take up a transformed life in complete support of an anger, egocentricity and alienation-free world.” As the late Professor Harry Prosen, psychiatrist and former president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, said: “I have no doubt Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race.”

That’s marvellous you are reading FREEDOM Scott!! In case you aren’t aware this definitive presentation by Jeremy Griffith is also available as an audio book and many other formats which you can explore here on our website.

Thank you so much im so interested 😊 🙏 💓

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We respect people’s differing opinions Chris and thank you for your comment. For interested readers we suggest our FAQ 1.6 ‘Why does understanding of the human condition solve everything?’ which explains all the problems we’re experiencing on this planet, aside from natural phenomenon, are caused by us humans. We are the ones who are egocentric, selfish, greedy, materialistic, fake, angry as hell. And so it’s that underlying issue — our destructively behaved, so-called human condition — that really has to be addressed and fixed if we are to solve the world’s problems. Only the psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real explanation of the human condition can stop the destruction of our world and the disintegration of society that is happening everywhere we look. And it is precisely this real psychologically redeeming, relieving and transforming explanation that biologist Jeremy Griffith has delivered in his first principle-based biological understanding of the human condition, a summary of which is presented in this interview.

We welcome your interest Shufai* Benjamin and we encourage you to further explore biologist Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition. THE Interview is a summary presentation which does provide references to more comprehensive material throughout. It outlines what Jeremy presents in his definitive book FREEDOM so we recommend all newcomers further their interest by reading FREEDOM (also available as an audio book) and also watching our introductory video series which expands on all that is explained (all freely available on our homepage.) Also, to assist enquirers we have an extensive FAQ facility which can be easily searched electronically along with all our books and essays. And yes as you say subscribing to the WTM mailing list is a great way to pursue your interest!

That’s wonderful Bata!! After watching THE Interview, we recommend you watch (or read) the 3 other Introductory Videos on our homepage — The Great Guilt video that explains the difficulty of the ‘Deaf Effect’ that reading about the human condition initially causes, then The Great Transformation video about how understanding the human condition actually transforms the human race, then the Sermon On The Beach video, Jeremy’s inspired description of how the human race now leaves the horror of the human condition forever! You might also like to subscribe to our mailing list where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. We are a not-for-profit organisation and make all our material and publications free to read online, watch, listen to and even download and print!

Thank you very much for your comment Upoko. The very nature of the human condition, the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad, means explanation of it can be initially difficult to access. It has been the most unbearably depressing and terrifying of subjects to face — why are we capable of such contradictory behaviour as to be selfless and loving but also selfish and destructive? Until that question could be answered, which it has in THE Interview, we have lived with a feeling of unworthiness, insecurity, shame and guilt and, necessarily, in almost total denial of the human condition so it does take a while to access discussion of it. For people new to this concept, we recommend Jeremy’s recent presentation The Great Guilt, which explains this difficulty, and the need for patience, in depth. If you want a good quick summary, we recommend FAQ 1.3.

Hi William. Understanding the human condition is the great unlocking point in the human journey of conscious thought and enquiry and its resolution leads, at last, to the real basis for personal and global transformation. While the just ‘living in the moment’, focuses on teaching us to transcend our anger, alienation and selfish egocentricity, the obvious truth is we needed to resolve it at its source and that is the great breakthrough Jeremy’s work presents. We are thinking beings, we need brain food not brain anaesthetic; we needed answers for our conscious thinking mind, without that all else is ultimately futile. You can read more about this in FAQ 6.5.

Hi Taffy, it’s great you’ve watched THE Interview as it’s the ideal introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition. From there, at top of our homepage HumanCondition.com, it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes subscribing to our mailing list where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. We are a not-for-profit organisation and make all our material and publications free to read online, watch, listen to and even download and print!

We can now understand that the reason that we have pursued “money, greed, power” is to compensate for the insecurity of the human condition. What is so important about Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition is that it finally explains the real reason for why humans’ greedy, competitive and power-hungry behaviour became an unavoidable, indeed necessary, part of human life. And so even though it has been terribly destructive, money, materialism and power gave us validation and reinforcement to counter the deep insecurity we felt about having to become self-corrupted – they sustained humanity’s heroic search for knowledge. But with our goodness and worth now biologically established, all our defensive, ‘harmful’ ‘destructive’ behaviours (essentially our anger, egocentricity and alienation) are made redundant; we can actually stop the destruction of ourselves and save the world.

You can immediately access a copy at the top of our homepage just under THE Interview! You will see an image of FREEDOM with the text ‘Free Copy’ so click on that to access your free electronic copy to read, listen to or download. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. If you are particularly after a hardcopy of Jeremy Griffith’s books they are available to purchase from Amazon and other good bookstores.

The Adam Stork story is clearly just an analogy to illustrate what happens when a conscious mind emerges in the prescence of pre-established instincts. In our distant ancestors consciousness emerged over millions of years. THE Interview is just an introductory text, but you can read in chapter 7 of Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM about how we humans became fully conscious when other species haven’t.

Yes, that is correct, however, THE Interview is an introductory text, and ‘human race’ is what we use in our everyday language, which is why it is used here to indicate our species Homo sapiens. You might be interested in Chapter 8 of FREEDOM, titled “The Greatest, Most Heroic Story Ever Told: Humanity’s Journey from Ignorance to Enlightenment”, which provides a wonderful overview of hominin evolution as it progressed the search for knowledge despite criticism from our instincts, leading to our present species, which most wonderfully, has finally found the ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation that liberates us from that criticism!

While Jewish Scriptures and the Qur’an (and other religions) contain all manner of truths about human life, and may even use metaphors to describe the clash between intellect and intellect, it is all from a pre-scientific view. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. We suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ which explains the unique significance of Jeremy Griffith’s work.

I am so interested in the topic.

Yes, we can now understand that our core instinctive orientation is to be loving and cooperative (see more on this in Freedom Essay 21). However, unable to defend our non-loving, divisive behaviour, admitting our core instinctive orientation was to be loving and cooperative left us unbearably condemned, and so we employed the false excuse that we have savage instincts like other animals. The wonderful news is that we can now understand that our destructive behaviour is the product of a psychosis, caused by the clash between our instinct and intellect, and a psychosis is changeable as it can be healed through understanding — a revelation that has the power to transform the individual and thus the human race.

    Thanks for your comment Ron. We are unsure what the “much, much, much simpler” “phenomenon” it is that you are are referring to. However, we do suggest that if you give yourself a chance to digest this explanation of the human condition, its accountability will quickly grow on you – as the greatest of all physicists, Albert Einstein, once said that ‘truth is what stands the test of experience’. And so you can know that this is the breakthrough explanation of the human condition because once you understand the explanation and begin to apply it, you will discover it is so able to make sense of human behaviour it makes it transparent.     With regards to how it “helps humans relieve themselves of supposed human turmoil”, what is so important about Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition is that it finally explains the real reason for why humans’ selfish, competitive and destructive behaviour became an unavoidable, indeed necessary, part of human life. And with our goodness biologically established, we no longer need to be preoccupied with proving our worth. Solving the human condition solves all the confusion, frustration and suffering in human life at its source so we can actually stop the angry destruction of ourselves, each other and the planet and save the world. You may be interested in FAQ 1.34, in which the highly respected psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen, a former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, wrote: “the beauty of Griffith’s treatise is that the healing starts at the macro level of the universal human condition; the healing of the shame and blame that the whole human race has suffered from…It brings the greater context and love to all human psychosis and suffering, and then, from under the umbrella of that safe position, everyone can gradually work inwards to their particular experience of all the imperfections in human life that have now, finally, been made sense of.”

No, the left wing is not being blamed for the human condition at all. As is explained in THE Interview, the reason for our insecure, angry, egocentric and alienated human condition is a psychologically upsetting clash between our instincts and intellect. What is explained about the left and right wing of politics, is that the left wing presents a danger, which is that its insistence on ideal behaviour oppresses the corrupting, but critically important search for knowledge, whereas the right wing, through its support of selfish individualism, supported that all-critical search. We recommend our FAQs about politics, which we think you will find fascinating as they explain how this all-reconciling understanding of human behaviour actually brings an end to the necessary but ugly world of politics.

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    That is sensible Theresa. There is a lot to absorb, but we suggest that you can know that Jeremy Griffith has at last got to the bottom of the human condition and found the redeeming explanation of it, because as he explains in paragraph 73 of FREEDOM, the ultimate test of any hypothesis is how accountable it is of our own lives – as the greatest of all physicists, Albert Einstein, once said that ‘truth is what stands the test of experience’. And so you can know that this is the breakthrough explanation of the human condition because once you understand the explanation and begin to apply it, you will discover it is so able to make sense of human behaviour it makes it transparent. This transparency of ourselves and our world—for example, the exposure of all our falseness—that this understanding of the human condition brings, is the ultimate ‘test of experience’ that confirms that the understanding being presented here is the long-sought explanation of the human condition. In this particular scientific study—the biological analysis of the human condition—we humans are the subjects, which means we can experience, feel and know the truthfulness or otherwise of the explanations being put forward. And so, fantastic a claim as it may seem, you will find that what is being presented here is the long-sought-after, desperately needed, psychosis-addressing-and-resolving, human race-transforming explanation of the human condition.     Our FAQ 1.10: outlines ‘What scientific evidence is there for this explanation’ and the commendations Jeremy’s work has received from extremely eminent scientists and thinkers.

Don’t despair Melanie. All the problems in the world that we are facing like over population, environmental devastation, genocide, terrorism, mass displacement of peoples, starvation, runaway diseases, gross inequality, ‘racial’ and gender oppression, polarised politics, rampant corruption and other crimes, drug abuse, family breakdown, and epidemic levels of obesity, chronic anxiety, depression, unhappiness and loneliness, are all symptoms of a deeper problem. And so to truly solve the world’s problems we need to address and fix the underlying issue responsible for these problems, which is the human condition – our corrupted, psychologically upset state. And so what is so powerful about the explanation of the human condition is that by solving our insecure state at its source, it brings an end to all the terrible, and seemingly overwhelmingly complex problems that beset the world – indeed it is the only way to bring an end to all those symptoms of our psychologically upset condition. So in a world fast going crazy from the effects of the human condition, this is the now desperately needed reconciling understanding that brings about a new world for humans FREE of the agony of the human condition. This is the understanding that ends human suffering at its source, and unites the human race. see FAQ 1.5 and FAQ 1.6.

    Thanks for your comment Nunya. We certainly respect people’s religious views but do suggest that while religions contained extraordinary truth about human life, it was all from a pre-scientific view. The human condition is the study of humans’ capacity for acts of both so-called ‘good and evil’ and is the realm of inquiry where science and religion overlap, so in explaining the human condition religion is demystified and explained by bringing biological understanding to religious concepts. For instance Jeremy’s treatise does bring new insight to the story of Adam and Eve, clarifying that while in the pre-scientific story Adam and Eve were portrayed as ‘bad’ or even ‘evil’ to take the fruit of knowledge, and treated as ‘sinful’, we can now understand that humans were ‘good’, even heroic, to search for knowledge, even though it caused us to become psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated sufferers of the human condition. As Jeremy says in Part 2 of THE Interview, “‘No, no, that story got it wrong’. Adam and Eve are actually not just good but the heroes of the whole story of life on Earth.” You might find our FAQ 6.3 interesting as it answers the questions ‘Does understanding of the human condition undermine a faith in religion or God? / How can you reconcile the explanation of the human condition that defends the upset state with religious teachings that condemn upset?’     What Jeremy explains in this interview is that all humans are born with all-loving moral instincts (not savage animal instincts) but now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition caused by the conscious mind’s necessary search for knowledge. So we are actually “programmed” to be loving and cooperative or ‘good’ and our selfish and competitive or ‘bad’ behaviour is psychologically driven!! Jeremy explains the significance of this in Part 1 of THE Interview: “Yes, our egocentric and arrogant and mean and vindictive and even sadistic behaviour has nothing to do with wanting to reproduce our genes. That was absurd. And it is actually really good news that our behaviour is due to a conscious-mind-based psychologically troubled condition because psychoses can be healed with understanding. If our competitive and aggressive behaviour was due to us having savage instincts then we would be stuck with that born-with, hard-wired, innate behaviour. It would mean we could only ever hope to restrain and control those supposedly brutal instincts. But since our species’ divisive behaviour is due to a psychosis, that divisive behaviour can be cured with healing understanding. So that is very good news. In fact, incredibly exciting news, because with understanding we can finally end our psychologically troubled human condition. It’s the understanding of ourselves that we needed to heal the pain in our brains and become sound and sane again.”

    Hi Andrew, thank you for your comment and it’s so wise to re-listen to THE Interview because, as biologist Jeremy Griffith explains, the very nature of the human condition means discussion of it can be initially difficult to access. This is because historically the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad has been the most terrifying of all subjects to face, and so we have necessarily lived in almost total denial of it, which means our minds can initially struggle to hear and absorb discussion about it. Wonderfully, however, this ‘deaf effect’ can be overcome with patient perseverance and everyone can access this most amazing of all gifts of understanding the human condition! This is further explained in our FAQ 1.16 ‘What is the solution to the ‘Deaf Effect’?’ and Jeremy’s astonishingly revealing presentation, The Great Guilt that causes the Deaf Effect which is the next video to watch after THE Interview.     What Jeremy’s work reveals is that humans’ selfish and destructive behaviour is not a product of ‘survival of the fittest’ unchangeable savage animal instincts within us—but the result of a psychosis, caused by the clash between our instinct and intellect, and significantly since a psychosis can be healed with understanding, human behaviour is not unchangeable or immutable — a revelation that transforms the human race. Also you might find FAQ 1.3 helpful to read as it presents a very brief summary of this key ‘instinct vs intellect’ concept. Sending all our encouragement and good on you for persevering Andrew!

Well you have come to the right place Jacoba as there is nothing more important than this breakthrough resolution of the underlying problem in all human affairs of the human condition which ends human conflict and suffering at its source, and provides the now urgently needed road map for the complete transformation of our lives and world! You can see all our Afrikaans translations, including THE Interview and some of biologist Jeremy Griffith’s books and Freedom Essays, on our homepage or on our Translations page. Also the WTM Cape Town Centre presents further translations on their website and our FAQ 3.3 shows our other African centres. As well you can watch all the videos on our website using the subtitles function (see the ‘cc’ icon at the bottom of the video player).

Yes, Jeremy Griffith explains in this interview that the Garden of Eden story is a pre-scientific metaphor for the emergence of consciousness and its clash with our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts, resulting in humans becoming psychologically upset or ‘sinful’ or ‘evil’. With regard to your question about “the consciousness we all share”, with our ‘dark side’ now defended, we can, as you suggest, admit that we have “closed our eyes” to our an all-sensitive, all-loving instinctive self or soul. So beneath our current alienated, psychologically upset state, is a great togetherness and awareness that we all share. We also recommend FAQ 5.4 ‘What is consciousness? / Why is it that humans became conscious while other animals haven’t? / How did consciousness emerge in humans?.

We suggest that the more you digest this scientific explanation of our condition, the more you will see that it actually encompasses the ‘spiritual’ dimension of life. We thought you might be interested in our FAQ 6.7 ‘How can a scientific explanation ever hope to account for and encompass the great ‘spiritual’ dimension we know exists in life? / Isn’t ‘spirituality’ beyond a purely rational explanation?’

It’s great you’ve watched THE Interview as it’s the ideal introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition. From there, at top of our homepage HumanCondition.com, it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes subscribing to our mailing list where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. We are a not-for-profit organisation and make all our material and publications free to read online, watch, listen to and even download and print!

Ginette, there is a lot to digest here, but Jeremy explains that humanity’s ability to nurture has been severely compromised by the human condition, but now that all our preoccupied behaviour has been defended by the explanation of the human condition, we can now safely acknowledge the absolute importance of nurturing in the development of children – see chapter 8:16C of FREEDOM on ‘The dire consequences of terminal levels of alienation destroying our ability to nurture our children’. So you will find your views on the importance of nurturing supported here - but beyond that, what you will start to realise is that at this point in history, everyone suffers from the insecurity of the human condition to some degree, and so we are all preoccupied in various ways with proving our worth.

I hope you pursue this Robert because you won’t be disappointed. Professor Harry Prosen, a former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, acatually presented the importance of Jeremy Griffith’s work in the context of Charles Darwin’s earlier discovery, when in the Foreword to Jeremy’s book ‘The Great Exodus‘, he wrote: “Finding understanding of the human condition has been the Holy Grail of the whole Darwinian revolution and I am convinced this book presents that vital understanding, and by so doing makes possible the rehabilitation of the human race. As such I believe, as I have said, that there has never been a more important book.” So, Darwin’s great breakthrough was answering the riddle of the origin of species, but Jeremy has solved the human condition and therefore saved the human race, so it couldn’t possibly be a bigger breakthrough for humanity and the world! Which is why the highly esteemed ecologist Professor Stuart Hurlbert, emeritus professor of biology at San Diego State University, stated in 2022 about Jeremy’s breakthrough biological explanation of the human condition, ‘I am stunned & honored to have lived to see the coming of “Darwin II”’.

While Buddhism and other religions contain all manner of truths about human life, it is all from a pre-scientific view. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. We suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ which explains the unique significance of Jeremy Griffith’s work.

Thank you so much, Brent, for your beautifully appreciative comment! You might be heartened by the fact that this explanation is reaching so many humans who we agree, all deserve to know about Jeremy Griffith’s breakthrough explanation of the human condition! You can read appreciative reviews and commendations from a broad range of eminent scientists, thought leaders and members of the general public, including thousands of ecstatic responses to THE Interview and other works by Jeremy (on our Reviews and Commendations page) from people everywhere who, like you, are so relieved to finally be able to make sense of the human mind and life! To pursue your interest our homepage states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the best way to learn more about the human condition. This includes subscribing to our mailing list where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world.

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