Comments on THE Interview

Thanks Joseph, Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition explains that we became psychologically upset sufferers of the angry, egocentric and alienated human condition as the unavoidable result of a clash between our pre-established instincts and emerging conscious mind; that is it not an instinctive state. Certainly instincts normally have to have a selfish ‘survival of the fittest’ orientation, but one of the revelations of Jeremy’s work is that humans have all-loving, cooperative instincts as a result of the Love-Indocrination process our ancestors underwent (a process you can see occuring in bonobos; read more in Freedom Essay 21), which allowed them to overcome genes’ normal selfishness. However, as Jeremy explains in THE Interview, without the ‘instinct vs intellect’ defence for our upset, “fallen” (to use religious terminology) state, mechanistic science has sought to falsely excuse our violent behaviour on ‘savage instincts’ within us; that we are, as you say, needing to rely on “instinctual violence” in order to survive. We suggest that with this true defence for our behaviour established, it is now possible to consider that there is clear evidence that humans developed from a cooperative and loving ancestor – of which the bonobos are a living model.

    Hi Clement, essentially we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are humans so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents here in THE Interview and comprehensively in his book FREEDOM. The human condition manifests in different ways in all as a result of our own experiences and exposure to the world, but the clash between instinct and intellect is the source of all our insecurity and subsequent anger, egocentricity and alienation, and so explaining it makes all those defensive behaviours redundant. We suggest you read the very brief summary in FAQ 1.3 and then re-watch THE Interview.     Also watching the main videos that follows THE Interview is great as that series elaborates on what’s been presented — so there’ll be some repetition, but going over the concepts in more detail does help with the understanding and absorption of them. FAQ 1.16 is also recommended because it explains our historic fear of the subject of the human condition and the resulting ‘deaf effect’ that often initially causes. So it can take a little time and perseverance to get your head around it this explanation but it’s well worth it as you can see from the daily ecstatic responses on our homepage — people everywhere are so relieved to finally be able to make sense of human life!

    Thank you for your appreciation, and question, Paul. Ideal nursery conditions were required for the establishment of the love-indoctrination process, which included a low level of predation. Jeremy Griffith discusses this process in THE Interview and refers the audience to his Freedom Essay 21 and chapter 5 of his definitive book FREEDOM which explain it more fully. Jeremy explains in chapter 5:8 of FREEDOM, “any difficulty or breakdown in the nurturing process and you are invariably ‘swept back downstream’ once more to the old competitive, selfish, each-for-his-own, opportunistic, ‘animal condition’ situation. So while love-indoctrination could allow unconditionally selfless behaviour to emerge in our ape ancestors, it was a very difficult, and also a very slow, process to both get underway and maintain.”     Predation (or any disruption to their normal peaceful environment) after love-indoctrination had been established has a different effect. Both humans and bonobos now instinctively expect to be nurtured with unconditional love during infancy, and any disruption (such as predation) that prevented an infant receiving that love would cause them to experience extreme psychological anxiety. You can read about psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen’s treatment of an emotionally disturbed bonobo (Brian) in chapter 5:13 of FREEDOM.

Hi Ann, thank you so much for your enthusiastic response to THE Interview! We absolutely agree that this breakthrough, world-saving understanding of the human condition needs to be disseminated as broadly as possible, which is why the WTM offers all its material free of charge. This includes Jeremy Griffith’s key books (including FREEDOM and THE Interview), which you can find HERE on our homepage. We also encourage everyone to share THE Interview and other WTM material to ensure it reaches as many people as possible all over the world.

That’s wonderful to hear, Patricia. Jeremy Griffith’s books are immediately available for free here on our homepage. This includes Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. If you are particularly wanting a hard copy you can purchase them from Amazon or other good bookstores.

We appreciate your concerns, Tim, but what you will start to realise as you further digest what is presented here is that is truly does get to the bottom of the human condition and from there is able to completely change humanity’s whole situation. Where one minute everything looked hopeless, suddenly it is not only infused with hope, but incredibly exciting. That is the turn around that having the human condition brings. Our FAQ 1.40 addresses the question ‘Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’ and explains that even those who are most committed to seeking validation through accumulating power and wealth, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, biological explanation of the human condition that establishes our worth at the most fundamental level. Basically, so exciting and relieving is this breakthrough, and the freedom from the human condition that is now on offer, that everyone will want it, and so it will catch on like wildfire — and this is already happening. Just read the ecstatic responses THE Interview is receiving on our homepage and scroll down to see the rapidly growing appreciation and support for the WTM with outstanding commendations from thought leaders and WTM Centres all over the world!

Great to have your interest, Laurice! As THE Interview explains, despite our competitive and selfish behaviour we have always intuitively believed we were fundamentally good, but we have never been able to explain our contradictory, conflicted condition — until now. Using first principle-based biology, Jeremy Griffith explains that only understanding why the intellect had to defy our cooperative ‘good’ instincts and become psychologically upset, or ‘bad’, could we resolve our species’ psychosis. Having the conflict between our instincts and intellect explained is all-important because it is only this clarifying, redeeming and reconciling explanation of the nature of the struggle between our instinctive self and conscious self that at last brings peace to our divided selves, and transforms the human race; see FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this idea original or new?’.

I would like to know more about the information and see if it can transform my life to a better person who can live a happy life in this world.

Thank you so much for your comment, Rose. While THE Interview is stand-alone, we do recommend everyone should read FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition, which is Jeremy Griffith’s definitive presentation of this redeeming, reconciling and rehabilitating explanation of the human condition.

Certainly all animals have instincts shaped by millions of years of natural selection, and they are ‘selfish’ instincts, devoted to reproduction and survival. But human aggression and egocentricity is not instinctive, it is psychological! And if we can admit that, then it is obvious that it must be related to our fully conscious mind, which is unique in the animal kingdom. It does take some time to digest, but as Jeremy Griffith explains in Freedom Essay 4, the instinct vs intellect explanation for the human condition is actually very obvious. He says, “if we think truthfully about the human condition—instead of dishonestly living in denial of it as virtually everyone, including scientists, have been doing—then it becomes apparent that the instinct vs intellect explanation is the completely obvious and fully accountable and thus true explanation for our divisive behaviour. And this obviousness is made abundantly clear by the many great thinkers throughout history who have recognised those instinct vs intellect elements—such as the ones I have already mentioned from ancient history, and the ones I’m about to mention from contemporary times. As you will see, while none of these thinkers have managed to fully explain the human condition—in some cases because in their time science had yet to reveal the nature of the gene and nerve-based systems—all of them recognised the key ingredients involved in that honest and true explanation of our conscious mind being at odds with our instincts.”

There is a huge difference between Jeremy Griffith’s biological treatise and the ‘Course in Miracles’, which is articulated in this comment on Video/Freedom Essay 9 by subscriber Lesley Davies. Lesley said: “I can now see why A Course in Miracles didn’t work for me. I completed the 365 day course three years running to try and heal myself from deep depression and anxiety. After reading essay 15 and studying Freedom it becomes clear that without the explanation of WHY we are so upset ACIM can only act as a sticky plaster with the ‘scream’ still going on underneath.” FAQ 6.5 further explains how our species' liberation from the human condition depended on confronting and biologically explaining why we became so upset, and stresses this huge difference between Jeremy’s work and the new age movement.

It’s great to have your interest, Penelope. At the top of our homepage — HumanCondition.com — it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview above?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest! This includes registering our free, weekly ‘Freedom Essay’ emails, and joining our popular Facebook Group.

Hi Matthew, our How To Help page lists the many ways people can come together and become involved in the World Transformation Movement. This includes joining and participating in the WTM’s Facebook Community Group and contacting a WTM Centre near you; there are now over 70 WTM Centres circling the world!

Hi Marce, solving the human condition solves all the confusion, frustration and suffering in human life at its source. We can now understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness, so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because we have the first principle science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it. So instead of being focused on power, fame, fortune and glory, all our energies will be freed to truly work together on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering and fix the world. This is the rapidly transforming effect of being able to understand the human condition, however because it presents a huge paradigm shift in our thinking it does take a little time to fully grasp. We suggest you watch Part 4 of THE Interview ‘How does the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible actually occur?’ again. Also our FAQs 1.4 to 1.6 are helpful as they explain far-reaching practical applications of this solution to our troubled condition, especially FAQ 1.6 ‘Why understanding the human condition solves everything’.

Hi Robert, the astonishing claims being made about Jeremy Griffith’s work do warrant initial scepticism, however the beauty of these ideas is that they are fully accountable, scientific explanations, so people can follow the logic and judge for themselves if it makes sense of existence – see FAQ 1.9 ‘Should people be sceptical of the claims made about biologist Jeremy Griffith’s work?’. Also, people might like to look at the outstanding commendations his work has received from leading thinkers and scientists on our homepage here.

That’s wonderful Tafadzwa!THE Interivew is FREE AND IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE to watch, read or download HERE on our homepage with no email registration required!! The work of the WTM is a scientific pursuit and was not created for profit, so all of our information and materials (including books, videos and podcasts) are provided absolutely free of charge. To pursue your interest Tagadzwa you may also like to join our ever-growing Facebook Group and subscribe to our mailing list.

Hi Charles, as THE Interview explains humans’ need for power and domination is not driven by us having savage animal instincts but by a psychosis caused by a clash between our intellect and cooperative instincts. So yes we can now understand that human aggression and anger, even the most extreme expressions of it, is psychological in origin and ultimately a symptom of the human condition. You may find Freedom Essay 29, ‘Can human conflict ever be bought to an end’ and our FAQ 4.2 titled Aren’t some people just born psychopathic, or even ‘evil’? / How does this explanation rehabilitate people capable of ‘evil’ behaviour? / Does this condone ‘evil’ behaviour? of further interest.

Refreshing

This is the Rossetta Stone of the explanation of the Human Condition.

We suggest you watch THE Interview again because it explains that men in particular are the heroes of the human journey and the reason men are currently selfish and aggressive is not selfish instincts or testosterone, but a state of psychological upset resulting from the instinct vs intellect clash. Astonishingly with Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition we can at last understand and reconcile the huge gulf of misunderstanding that has existed between men and women. We can explain why men especially, but also women, suffer from the human condition and all its related behaviours including selfishness and egocentricity, but that all humans are equally good, worthwhile, meaningful and wonderful regardless of gender, age, religion, etc. See biologist Dr Anna Fitzgerald’s video commendation about how this explanation is the real liberation of women and FAQ 8.1 ‘Hos does this reconcile men and women?’

Hi Swee, thank you for your thoughts. Part 1 of THE Interview explains human behaviour is not a product of unchangeable savage animal instincts within us, but the result of a universal psychosis caused by a clash between our instinct and intellect, and significantly since a psychosis can be healed with understanding, human behaviour is not unchangeable or immutable. So thankfully, with that redeeming answer to the human condition has now been found, rather than controlling our behaviour through discipling or controlling our thoughts, our psychological upset can actually subside and heal, and we can truly be liberated from the human condition.

This is amazingly mind blowing. At one point I just wanted to stop listening beause it was becoming confusing and very disturbing in the fact that where is God our heavenly father Jesus and the Holy spirit come into play now but being the curious person I am I needed to hear more so I continued listening. This had me thinking some deep thoughts mainly about the Bible teachings defining characters and behaviors of different individuals mentioned in the Bible. This is something that definitely needs to be heard about .

Thank you for your insightful comment, Bengt. Yes, we can now understand that while the corrupting search for liberating knowledge was underway religion played a significant role as both the custodian of the ideal state and as a means of solace for those exhausted by the corrupting journey. However, it follows that with the redeeming biological understanding of why we had to depart from our original innocence now found, those faith-based accounts that looked after us are now redundant. In fact, what people discover is Jeremy Griffith’s work actually reconciles science and religion by bringing biological understanding to pre-scientific concepts. In fact, it presents the fulfilment of a time that all religions looked forward to when we could actually explain ourselves, see FAQ 6.3.

That’s great, Jeanette, that you are persevering in your digestion of this breakthrough understanding. Even though the instinct vs intellect concept is very simple and resonates deeply with us, humans have had to live in such fear and denial of our corrupted condition it is common people find they need to watch THE Interview a few times to fully understand it all. We also recommend reading and/or watching the companion presentation to this interview titled The Great Guilt. It is an astonishingly revealing presentation by Jeremy Griffith in which he outlines more comprehensively the definition of our human condition, and why engagement with the subject can be initially hard to grasp (also see FAQ 1.16). And, if you want a good quick summary of the explanation, we recommend FAQ 1.3.

As THE Interview explains, all humans are born innocent “guiltless + pure” with loving moral instincts and that our species' psychosis is caused by the psychological upset that resulted from a clash between our emerging conscious mind and those pre-established instincts. Insitutions like religions, politics and society emerged to manage this psychosis, but they are not the cause of it. We can now understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless, “loving” way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because we have the first principle science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it.

Thank you for your comment, Steven. As you’ve recognised, Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition brings biological understanding to religious accounts of our condition, which means we can at last reconcile science and religion. For instance, as THE Interview explains, the story of Adam and Eve is a pre-scientific metaphor for the emergence of consciousness and its clash with our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts, resulting in humans becoming psychologically upset or ‘sinful’. However, significantly we can now understand, from scientific first principles, that ‘Adam and Eve’ were actually ‘good’ to search for knowledge, not bad or ‘disobedient’; we humans are actually the absolute heroes of the whole story! It establishes that we are good and not bad after all. What THE Interview presents fundamentally lifts the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race and allows us to forgive ourselves and others and finally end our psychologically troubled human condition—it couldn’t be a bigger breakthrough. In terms of your further exploration, you might be interested in our FAQs about religion, as well as subscribing to the Freedom Essay series, which serves as a wonderfully comprehensive, free course as it guides you through much of the content of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM in beautifully illustrated bite-size pieces.

Hi Joanne, it’s great to have your interest! Our ‘How To Help‘ page lists the many ways people can become involved in the World Transformation Movement and help disseminate this world-saving information. This includes joining and participating in the WTM’s Facebook Community Group; we also have over 70 WTM Centres around the world so you might like to contact the one nearest to you! See our WTM Centres page for all the Centres.

And we suggest you will not be disappointed, Chrissie! Everyone should know that while THE Interview is stand-alone, we do recommend everyone should read FREEDOM, which is Jeremy Griffith’s definitive presentation of this redeeming, reconciling and rehabilitating explanation of the human condition

Thank you, Joshua. Yes, the redeeming explanation of the human condition allows us to return to a cooperative, loving state that is millions of years old, with the big difference being that this time it will be in a fully conscious way; as the poet T.S. Eliot anticipated, ‘We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time’ (Little Gidding, 1942).

Wonderful to learn of your interest in our work, Christi. At the top of our homepage — HumanCondition.com — it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview above?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest! This includes registering our free, weekly ‘Freedom Essay’ emails, and joining our popular Facebook Group.

For the benefit of readers of these comments it is important to stress that what is being presented is not religious, but is a rational, fully accountable, biological explanation of the human condition. However, the human condition is the realm of inquiry where science and religion overlap, so naturally in explaining the human condition religious references will be used, and through scientific explanation, finally demystified and reconciled. For example, we can now understand that what we have referred to as ‘God’ is the negative entropy-driven integrative tendency in the universe – you can read about God and negative entropy in FAQ 6.2.

In Part 1 of THE Interview Jeremy Griffith addresses the almost universal excuse for our angry, egocentric and alienated behaviour, which is that it is due to selfish, must-reproduce-our-genes, survival-of-the-fittest, ‘savage instincts’ within us, which is what you are advocating. However, with our psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated state now defended, it is now safe to admit that our human instincts are loving – see Part 3 of THE Interview. We also recommend FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this idea original or new?’, which explains the unique significance of Jeremy’s work.

    Hi Margaret, thank you so much for your enthusiastic response to THE Interview. We absolutely agree that this breakthrough, world-saving understanding of the human condition needs to be disseminated as broadly as possible, which is why the WTM offers all material free of charge. This includes audios, and many other formats, of Jeremy Griffith’s key books (including THE Interview), which you can find HERE on our homepage. Just click ‘Get your copy for FREE!’ to see all the formats and translations that are available. We are still in the process of completing the audiobook of FREEDOM, however chapters 1-7 are now available. Also, all the hundreds of audios of most of our books, essays and videos are now in the WTM App (which you can download for free and there is no sign in required at App Store or Google Play) and on Spotify.     We also encourage everyone to share THE Interview and other WTM material to ensure it reaches as many people as possible all over the world.

I’m astonished.

    Thank you very much Mahadevan. Yes, religions have been a repository of truth during humanity’s long corrupting search to find knowledge, and so now that we finally have the scientific explanation of the human condition, what people discover is that, exactly as you say, we can ‘interpret scientifically’. Importantly, while religious accounts described our condition, as THE Interview explains, ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents here. We suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ It was only through finding the rational, accountable, scientific understanding of our condition that we could finally bring peace to it. In fact, what people discover is that this represents a fulfilment of a time that all religions looked forward to when we could actually explain ourselves: see FAQ 6.3 ‘Does this undermine religion/God’.     Video/Freedom Essay 53 expands on thinkers (both ancient and contemporary) who, while they could not explain it, did recognise the instinct and intellect elements involved in creating the human condition. It includes the following passage about human’s original ‘golden age’ of instinctive innocence from the Mahabharata (of which the Bhagavad Gita is a part): ‘The Hindus of the Brahmanic period preserved the following in the Mahābharata: “The Krita Yuga was so named because there was but one religion, and all men were saintly; therefore they were not required to perform religious ceremonies. Holiness never grew less, and the people did not decrease. There were no gods in the Krita Yuga, and there were no demons…Men neither bought nor sold; there were no poor and no rich; there was no need to labor, because all that men required was obtained by the power of will; the chief virtue was the abandonment of desires…In those times, men lived as long as they chose to live, and were without any fear of Yima (the god of Death)…Being all like gods, they ascended to the sky and returned at will…Self-subdued and free from envy, they beheld the gods and the mighty prophets, and had a clear perception of all duties.”…And in the Vaya Purāna it is written: “They were characterized neither by righteousness nor unrighteousness…they moved about at will and lived in continual delight.”’

Your explanation is well said, there are some people that aren’t able to see themselves as reason for their actions can be the problem