Comments on THE Interview

Please persevere Sylvia. It does take some time to get your head around the paradox of the human condition, and in particular, how it applies to politics. We recommend Jeremy’s latest book, Death by Dogma, which is freely available here on our homepage. It sets out clearly the biological reason for why left-wing ideology is so dangerous. It also summarises the whole history of pseudo idealism going back to when the upset state of the human condition first emerged some 2 million years ago. In it Jeremy emphasises that while it is easy to identify with the ideal of everyone being cooperative and loving, the whole objective of the human journey was, as mentioned, to find understanding of why humans have not been cooperative and loving and instead so divisively competitive and aggressive. That is the great riddle of the human condition that had to be explained, and what is finally revealed with Jeremy’s biological explanation is that there has been an all-important, good reason for that divisive behaviour. It’s always been easy to side with idealism and denigrate realism, but now at last we can understand the real world humans have been living in where we have had to be competitive, aggressive and selfish, and, most wonderfully of all, by revealing that reason, ending the need for that divisive behaviour. Yes, that is the final paradox of the human condition: through the right wing upholding the selfishness needed to persevere with the search for knowledge, we all now become left-wing (as it were, although the truth is that the whole ugly business of politics is now brought to a close).

Thank you very much for your interest Susan. It does take some time to digest, but the more you absorb this information, the more you realise that it is the only thing that can end all the dysfunction in our political system, in the way we raise our children, in the damage we are doing to the environment, etc etc, because you realise that they are all manifestations of humanity’s preoccupation with having to prove its worth; they are all manifestations of the human condition. You might be interested in reading more in FAQ 1.6: Why this solves everything.

Yes, science has finally explained the human condition, and the liberation it brings is just extraordinary. Being able to understand the human condition, we can now see that everyone has suffered from it, and all our institutions, including governments and religion, have been a manifestation of our insecure, psychologically upset condition. You might be interested in our FAQ’s about politics, and our FAQ’s about religion.

Jeremy Griffith’s books and essays are beginning to be translated into many languages around the world, thanks to wonderful efforts from the WTM’s ever-expanding global network of support. Unfortunately we don’t yet have any Italian translations but our Translations page shows all languages that are available and the WTM Centres who have translated the publications.

Until we have an Italian translation of THE Interview you can watch it (and all the videos on our website) using the closed captions or subtitles function in your native language. Just click on the ‘cc’ icon at the bottom of the video player, and you can choose the language using the ‘cog’ setting next to it: Select the ‘cog’, then select ‘Subtitles/CC’, then select ‘Auto translate’ where you can choose the language you would like the subtitles to appear in. Press ‘play’ on the video and your chosen subtitles should then appear.

The book version of THE Interview is free on our homepage here (along with Jeremy Griffith’s other key books including his definitive book FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition) to read online or download. You can also download the free Kindle version from Amazon. Otherwise you can purchase hard copies from Amazon or other good bookstores.

Great to have your interest Hendry. Our homepage— HumanCondition.com— provides a wonderful road map to pursue your interest with all our key material made freely available and you can register for free, live, interactive presentations with Jeremy about this immensely relieving understanding! You may also like to join our Facebook Group where there is much interesting and excited discussion taking place.

    Thank you for your questions Rui. With regard to bonobos, there is no suggestion that human’s are descended from bonobos, however, what is being suggested is that bonobos have encountered the same conditions and are going through the same process that our distant ancestors did, and therefore provide an extraordinary insight into our distanct ancestors. The evidence for this is bonobos’ similarity to those ancestors, as well as similarities in the environment. In chapter 5:5 of his book FREEDOM, Jeremy Griffith includes an analysis of the hominin fossil record (particularly Ardipithecus) that evidences that on the basis of physique, intelligence, small canines, bipedality the bonobos present a very accurate model of our human ancestors; and there is also analysis from paleoanthropologists on the environment inhabited by those ancestors, demonstrating its similarity to the territory south of Congo River that the bonobos currently inhabit (see chapter 5:6 for more about bonobos).     Regarding the relative lack of psychological upset in our ancestors, the whole of FREEDOM evidences that we emerged from an innocent past, not a savage, ‘red in tooth and claw’ past as is commonly held. For example, see analysis of gentleness of so-called primitive peoples, such as the San Bushmen and the Australian Aborigines, as well as evidence from mythology of a ‘golden age’ of innocence (for example, in chapter 2:7); see also evidence provided by the astonishing sensitivity to paleolithic rock painting (see chapter 8:11C); indeed, all of chapter 8), is a revealing application of the ontogeny recapitulate phylogeny principle. You might also be interested in FAQ 1.2 about why humanity has embraced the idea that we have ‘savage instincts’ derived from a savage past.

We encourage you to explore our homepage at HumanCondition.com as it shows the ways to pursue your interest, including after THE Interview, watching our Introductory Videos 1-4 & 14 and joining our WTM Community, including our popular Facebook Group!

Once people gain an appreciation for how all-clarifying, all-reconciling and all-liberating this knowledge is its implementation happens quickly as you can see from the ecstatic responses at the top of our homepage! What is so challenging and hard is breaking through the historic fear we understandably have to discussion of the human condition and also the resistance humans have to change (see Video/Freedom Essay 1). So, as with any new scientific breakthrough in history, it will take time to implement the change universally (see FAQ 1.7) but once this information gets a foothold through enough people developing a deep appreciation and desire to support it our problems will be solved very quickly! As THE Interview explains instead of us being preoccupied with proving ourselves artificially (through seeking power, fame, fortune and glory) all our energies will be freed to truly work together and focus on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering in all the corners of the world (you can read more about how this solves everything in FAQ 1.6. So exciting and relieving is this freedom from the human condition that everyone will want it so it will catch on like wildfire and this is already happening! Apart from the excited responses our homepage shows the rapidly growing appreciation and support for the WTM with outstanding commendations from thought leaders and WTM Centres all over the world! Also, every day more people join our WTM Facebook Group and register for our live events with Jeremy Griffith and others to share in this transforming knowledge!

There is a lot to digest here, but yes, there are lot of people that need to be cured – the human condition is universal. And it is true that nature can bring us back into contact with our repressed instinctive self, but ultimately we needed to explain why we lost contact with it and became such a psychologically disturbed species. It is this understanding that Jeremy has provided with his explanation of how our emerging conscious mind came into conflict with our instinctive self. Now that we have the real defence and reinforcement of our fundamental goodness, all our artificial defences and reinforcements are obsoleted, they are no longer needed. So yes, understanding does heal a psychosis, because ultimately, that psychosis was based on the conscious mind wrongly believing that it ‘bad’ to disobey our instincts. See FAQ 1.5 about why this heals everything.

The point that Jeremy is making is not that animals are more aggressive than humans, but that the source of human aggression is not instinctive like other animals; it is psychological. As you rightly say, this aggressive behaviour is largely created through dysfunctional conditioning in childhood, but the great question that raises is, why we haven’t been able to adequately nurture our children? Where in our evolution did it go wrong? It is this core question of the source of all the dysfunction in human life that Jeremy has answered with his explanation of how our emerging conscious mind came into conflict with our preestablished instincts, making us psychologically upset. (You might be interested in chapter 8:16C of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM, which talks about the absolute importance of nurturing, and how if it is compromised, it creates destructive behaviour in subsequent generations. Of course, as Jeremy writes in that chapter, it is not parents fault; they, like everyone else, have been dealing with the human condition. Jeremy writes: “Parents can now understand that their inability to adequately love their offspring is not their fault, but the product of the ever-accumulating levels of upset in the human race as a whole that resulted from our species’ heroic 2-million-year search for knowledge, specifically for self-knowledge, understanding of why we conscious humans are good and not bad.”)

    Yes, the ‘facts’ of human life are ‘grim’, but to suggest that they are explained by humans being basically good does not do Jeremy Griffith’s treatise justice. No, the grim facts of human life can now be understood through understanding that after 2 million years of searching for knowledge, we, as a species, are now so psychologically upset by the battle between instinct and intellect that we have reached a point, where we are, as you say, basically mad. Indeed, we are now so psychologically upset that the future of the human race is in the balance—Freedom Essay 55: Endgame for the human race addresses this issue.     The reason we can expect it to change now, when it never has in the past, is that Jeremy Griffith’s treatise at last answers the essential question of our so-called ‘good and evil’-stricken human condition—why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish, so much so that we are destroying ourselves and our world? Now that we have the real defence and reinforcement of our fundamental goodness, all these artificial defences and reinforcements of gaining power, fame, fortune and glory are obsoleted, they are no longer needed. Having this core mystery and problem about human behaviour solved ends all the conflict and suffering in human life at its source, and provides the now urgently needed road map for the complete rehabilitation and transformation of our lives and world! See our Transformation page to read more about the Transformation that this information brings about.

Thanks for sharing with us. this is a great relief to such a lifetime burden of guilt from dogma that has been fed to us for such a long period.

As well as being able to watch THE Interview with French subtitles you can access it, along with our entire Introductory Video series, in French on our 'Translations' page. Also our centres WTM Nice and WTM Switzerland present their websites in French along with these French translations! You can contact our centres via the contact page on their websites.

Yes, as Jeremy writes in Chapter 1:1 of his definitive book FREEDOM, humanity has been unable to breach the great impasse of explaining our apparently non-ideal condition. As Jeremy writes, “Of course, in the absence of understanding, we had no choice but to come up with some excuse for why we are the way we are in order to cope with the negative implications of being divisively instead of cooperatively behaved, but we do all in truth know that the old ‘animals are competitive and aggressive and that’s why we are’ defence simply doesn’t hold water—it doesn’t explain our psychologically distressed human condition and so cannot end the pain, suffering, conflict and confusion that plagues this planet. And that is where the human race has been stalled, waiting in an increasingly distressed state for the real explanation for our psychologically troubled human condition that will finally make sense of the riddle of human life. That is, until now—because it is precisely that human-mind-liberating, psychosis-relieving REAL explanation that this book at last delivers.”

The book version of THE Interview is free on our homepage here (along with Jeremy Griffith’s other key books including his definitive book FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition) to read online or download. You can also download the free Kindle version from Amazon. Otherwise you can purchase hard copies from Amazon or other good bookstores.

    Thank you very much for your consideration Frank. Yes, it is difficult to understand how some of humanity’s terrible acts could be the result of being pschologically upset, but I suggest that when you appreciate just how ‘upset’ humans now are after 2 million years of unjust condemnation from our instincts, you will begin to see that in certain circumstances that upset does account for terrible acts of ‘evil’. As the Australian author Morris West so bravely acknowledged in his memoir, A View from the Ridge: ‘brutalise a child and you create a casualty or a criminal. Bribe a servant of the state and you will soon hear the deathwatch beetles chewing away at the rooftrees of society. The disease of evil [now able to be understood as upset] is pandemic; it spares no individual, no society, because all are predisposed to it. It is this predisposition which is the root of the mystery [of ‘evil’ that is now explained]. I cannot blame a Satan, a Lucifer, a Mephistopheles, for the evils I have committed, the consequences of which have infected other people’s lives. I know, as certainly as I know anything, that the roots are in myself, buried deeper than I care to delve, in caverns so dark that I fear to explore them. I know that, given the circumstances and the provocation, I could commit any crime in the calendar’     Yes, as is explained in FAQ 1.38 “we can now see why our species has not just been ego-centric, but ego-infuriated, even ego-gone-mad-with-murderous-rage for having to live with so much unjust criticism/guilt, for some 2 million years. At long last we have the reason for humans’ capacity for shocking acts of cruelty, sadism, hate, murder and warfare—we now know the source of the dark volcanic forces in us humans.”

The human condition has been such a deeply, deeply tragic journey which has caused so much mental pain and anguish. What is so significant about Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is we no longer have to be burdened by the fundamental question of whether we are good or bad because our core goodness as individuals and as a species has been biologically established. We can understand humans’ psychological upset was the price humans had to pay for searching for knowledge and that the human story presents the greatest, most heroic story ever told. We can at last understand the source of our upset and bring great compassion and kindness to ourselves and others and, most significantly, we don’t have to overly confront the upset within us—see FAQ 1.19 ‘A caution about the danger of over-exposure’.

Thank you for your comment Brent. Yes, there is a huge distinction between Jeremy Griffith’s work and that of people such as Ekhart Tolle and Sadhguru. While they did, as you say, identify the extensive state of human dysfunction and insanity, they focus on teaching us to restrain and transcend our anger, alienation and selfish egocentricity, whereas the obvious truth is we needed to resolve it at its source, provide the “understandable, cohesive” explanation, and that is the great breakthrough Jeremy’s work presents. The sad truth is that transcending our condition as prescribed by Tolle and Sadhguru was ‘pseudo idealism’, and in fact, was just leading to greater and greater dysfunction. You can read more about the difference between Jeremy’s work, and ‘pseudo idealism’ in FAQ 6.5.

I have just discovered the title which (apparently) confirms my believe that we are responsible for ours and this world salvation! I will know more after I do research in 2022.

Certainly brings much hope in anyone’s life who has been struggling to understand the cause and reason for so much suffering and pain endured by so many people who live on such a beautiful planet given to us by a higher being... In my case GOD ALMIGHTY. Finally “ food for our SOULS”.

    Thank you very much for your comment Robyn. Yes, there is so much of our maternal, nurtured past that still lives within us, that we can at last admit now that the human condition has been explained. We recommend chapter 5 of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM (summarised in FAQ 5.2), which is about The Origin of Humans’ Unconditionally Selfless, Altruistic, Moral Instinctive Self or Soul, and also chapter 6.13 about how nurturing again becomes a priority.     Beyond that, our homepage HumanCondition.com provides the perfect road map to pursue your interest in this immensely relieving understanding—and it’s all free! This includes registering for our live, interactive presentations with Jeremy Griffith, watching our Introductory Video series and accessing Jeremy’s key books. As well we encourage people to join our Facebook Group where there is much interesting and excited discussion taking place.

What is so extraordinary about this breakthrough is that we can now understand the fundamental reason why people ‘want more than they need’; we can now understand the source of greed and materialism. When the conscious mind went in search of knowledge a conflict between our instinct and intellect broke out, leading to an undeserved sense of guilt and insecurity that caused us to become psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric, the upset state we refer to as the human condition—a state we sought to alleviate through a competitive, selfish and aggressive bid for the reinforcement we could gain from winning power, fame, fortune and glory. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict and the guilt it produced, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition (see FAQ 1.6).

Yes, we can now understand that when the conscious mind went in search of knowledge a conflict between our instinct and intellect broke out, leading to an undeserved sense of guilt and insecurity that caused us to become psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric. But what is so extraordinary, is that we now know that all that ‘negative’ and ‘innapropriate’ behaviour was absolutely warranted – we had to become angry, alienated and egocentric to carry on the battle to find understanding. And the wonderful thing is that now that we can explain and understand this conflict and the guilt it produced, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition (see FAQ 1.5).

We recommend Jeremy’s latest book, Death by Dogma, which is freely available here on our homepage. It sets out clearly the biological reason for why left-wing ideology is so dangerous. It also summarises the whole history of pseudo idealism going back to when the upset state of the human condition first emerged some 2 million years ago. In it Jeremy emphasises that while it is easy to identify with the ideal of everyone being cooperative and loving, the whole objective of the human journey was, as mentioned, to find understanding of why humans have not been cooperative and loving and instead so divisively competitive and aggressive. That is the great riddle of the human condition that had to be explained, and what is finally revealed with Jeremy’s biological explanation is that there has been an all-important, good reason for that divisive behaviour. It’s always been easy to side with idealism and denigrate realism, but now at last we can understand the real world humans have been living in where we have had to be competitive, aggressive and selfish, and, most wonderfully of all, by revealing that reason, ending the need for that divisive behaviour.

As is explained in chapter 7 of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM, the love indoctrination process is required to liberate consciousness. And, as is explained in chapter 5.4 of FREEDOM, love indoctrination required ideal nursery condition, and, “This entailed uninterrupted access to food, shelter and territory, for if any element was compromised, or other difficulties and threats from predators excessive, then we can assume there would have been a strong inclination to revert to more selfish and competitive behaviour. The successful nurturing of infants therefore required ample food, comfortable conditions and security from external threats over an extended period.” In the case of both our human ancestors and bonobos, that ample food was supplied by fruit and plants, but it is true that consciousness would bring with it a love of other living things and a loathing of killing.

    Hi Mahammed, thank you for your comment and questions. Yes, as Jeremy explains in chapter 5.4 of his book FREEDOM the caring and loving nature of the bonobos was created by the love indoctrination process, and initially this behaviour is instinctive, but it has a side effect which is that it liberates consciousness (see chapter 7), and we can see this emerging consciousness in bonobos.     With regard to the divine in this concept, Jeremy does demystify ‘God’ as Negative Entropy, but we suggest reading FAQ 6.2, which explains that “If we humans are 2 million years hurt, damaged and wretched, as in truth we are, then the loneliness of our situation has been absolutely astronomical, and so it follows that the comfort we have derived from a metaphysical view of ‘God’ has also been immense. Obviously then, the scientific/‘laws of physics’ demystification of ‘God’ is going to seem very inadequate in terms of embodying all the attributes that we have imbued ‘God’ with. But, in fact, all the attributes we have imbued ‘God’ with—‘His’ lovingness of our fallen state, ‘His’ reassurance that if we are as true to him as we can be all will be okay in the end, ‘His’ kindness towards all forms of suffering, ‘His’ essential ‘goodness’, ‘His’ ‘bigness’ in every sense; namely ‘His’ universality, ‘His’ omnipotence (all-powerfulness), omnipresence (all-presentness) and omniscience (all-knowingness)—are actually now confirmed and reinforced by our ability to understand ‘Him’; but this sudden demystification of ‘God’ may take some time to adjust to. In fact, in fairness to how much we 2-million-years-corrupted humans have needed the support of a metaphysical ‘God’, almost everyone should expect some shock and resistance to have to work through when absorbing the scientific explanation of ‘God’.”     We also recommend looking at all our FAQs about religion especially FAQs ‘What is God’ and ‘Does this understanding undermine religion’ and ‘How can a scientific explanation ever hope to account for and encompass the great ‘spiritual’ dimension we know exists in life?’. There is so much to consider and adjust to but, we suggest, people come to realise this demystification of life doesn’t contradict our spiritual experiences but rather only enhances and fulfills them.

This guy is smart, but the real answer to our problems is God, the Bible tells us every thing we need to know, and how to solve it! Just simply read it and live it, it’s called self control thu God’s help!

While Christianity and other religions contain all manner of extraordinarily profound truth about human life, it is from a pre-scientific view. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. What Jeremy is putting forward is that for there to be a fundamental change in our human situation we had to understand the human condition – humans’ capacity for good and evil – from a biological perspective.

The book version of THE Interview is free on our homepage here (along with Jeremy Griffith’s other key books including his definitive book FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition) to read online or download. You can also download the free Kindle version from Amazon. Otherwise you can purchase hard copies from Amazon or other good bookstores.

Regarding your concerns about Jeremy’s explanation of politics, the threat to humanity posed by the Left Wing is due to the fact that its dogmatically imposed pseudo-idealism puts freedom of thought and the search for understanding in the gravest of danger. However, with the freedom-from-dogma right-wing’s search for understanding of the human condition completed by the finding of understanding of the human condition, the justification for the egocentric power-fame-fortune-and-glory-seeking way of life espoused by the right-wing ends, replaced by the ideal-behaviour-obeying attitude that the left-wing sought. We recommend Jeremy’s latest book, Death by Dogma, which is freely available here on our homepage.

Thank you for your comment Berta. We can now understand that the instinct vs intellect battle resulted in humans’ psychologically upset state and, in the extreme, that upset produces narcissistic behaviour. What is so utterly exonerating and psychologically healing about our ability to now understand this is that we can finally appreciate that there was a very good reason—indeed heroic reason—for such dark volcanic forces in us humans. Importantly, as this FAQ explains, this understanding of why we became upset as a species does not condone or sanction such extremes of selfishness, rather, through bringing understanding to humans’ upset behaviour, it gives us the power to ameliorate and thus subside and ultimately eliminate it, see our FAQ 1.38.

This is what I need and what an eye opener

Yes, we can now admit that we have loving, compassionate instincts, derived from the nurturing based love-indoctrination process (that Jeremy Griffith explains in THE Interview and see FAQ 5.2). However, what is so extraordinary about what Jeremy is presenting, is that we can now understand why humans had to become angry, egocentric and alienated, and it wasn’t through becoming civilized. We can now understand that a conflict between our instinct and intellect led to an undeserved sense of guilt and insecurity that caused us to become psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric, the upset state we refer to as the human condition—a state we sought to alleviate through a competitive, selfish and aggressive bid for the reinforcement we could gain from winning power, fame, fortune and glory. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict and the guilt it produced, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition (see FAQ 1.5).

In terms of your pertinent question ‘will we even see the dawn?’, it is certainly the 11th hour, but as Jeremy Griffith explains, once this solution to the human condition takes off, this information will turn things around almost overnight, see FAQ 1.4. We recommend Jeremy’s Freedom Essays about ‘Do we fail or do we make it?’ (see F. Essays 55—58). These present a fearlessly honest analysis of the state of the world followed by how the extraordinary transforming power of this information can save the world.