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Yes, Pierre, because the human condition comes down to human biology it is ultimately a question for scientists to answer. As Jeremy stresses in Part 2 of THE Interview, finding the answer to the human condition ultimately depended on being able to explain our biology: “while it has been recognised—even from ancient times—that the emergence of our conscious mind somehow caused us to ‘fall from grace’, or however you want to describe the corruption of our original innocent cooperative, selfless and loving instinctive state, it wasn’t until science revealed the difference between the gene-based and nerve-based learning systems—which is that genes can orientate but nerves need to understand—that we were finally in a position to explain the good reason for our angry, egocentric and alienated human condition.”

    Hi Susan, the more you digest this information, the more you realise that the human condition is behind all our actions and motivations, including our greed for more and more money. The point is that money is not the corrupter, rather, our greed for it is a symptom of our insecure, human condition afflicted state. It follows that if you address that underlying insecurity, then our greed (along with all our other artificial sources of reinforcement) will be removed. And that is what this information does – it addresses and solves that core insecurity about our self-worth. In fact, this redeeming, uplifting and healing explanation of the human condition is SO liberating and SO exciting that it won’t be long be everyone realises that it is completely pointless to keep trying to compensate for their insecurity through the pursuit of power, fortune and glory.     You might be interested in FAQ 1.40, which addresses the questions of ‘Aren’t the problems of the world too overwhelming to ever be fixed? / Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’ It explains that “Even those who were most committed to defensively seeking validation through gaining power and material goods, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real biological explanation of the human condition that proves our worth at the most fundamental level.”

Hi Alfred, our homepage — HumanCondition.com — provides an initial guide to learn more (and it is all FREE, and no registration required). At the top of the homepage it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and leads you through the steps to pursue your interest, including Jeremy Griffith’s books; our free, live, interactive events which you can register for here and we encourage you to join our popular Facebook Group.

What is unique about Jeremy Griffith’s work is that he has answered the essential question of why we departed from that ‘Universal Whole’, to the extent that in our alienated state we have nearly destroyed ourselves and our natural world. What was needed was love of our ‘dark side’, which is what is provided with the instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition.

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Great to have your interest, Suzanne. Understanding the human condition is the great unlocking point in the human journey of conscious thought and enquiry and provides the real basis for personal development and a lasting freedom from the torment of not understanding ourselves. Its resolution leads at last to an incredibly exciting and meaningful world for everyone. As distinguished psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen (who wrote the foreword to Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM) said: “What Griffith is presenting is understanding of the source insecurity that the whole human race suffers from for having destroyed our species’ innocent soul. It is a universal self-blame that his understanding at last provides healing insight into. All human behavior is saturated with that universal insecure, depressing state and resulting anger, egocentricity and alienation that has developed from it, but we finally have the compassionate foundation insight needed to dismantle all that ‘upset’/psychosis. So the real psychotherapy of our collective and individual psychoses can begin” (see FAQ 1.34).

    Thank you for your feedback Shannon. The Adam Stork story explains instincts are hardwired, they are rigid, and so they are in effect intolerant of any divergent, non-instinctive behaviour. Unfortunately (in terms of creating a clash with those instincts) the conscious mind is an insightful system which works by associating information, and in order to find those insights it has to experiment with different behaviours. Which means that our emerging conscious mind would have had to divert from our preestablished instinctual behaviour to find these understandings. And, as Jeremy explains in Part 1 of this interview, when our conscious mind wrested control from our instincts and began its search for understanding our instincts in effect criticised the conscious mind which produced our psychologically upset human condition (summarised in FAQ 1.3, and you can read more about the difference between intellect and instincts in FAQ 1.41). This is the biological answer to why humanity lost its link with “the Pattern” – and as you seem to be intuitively recognising, it turns out that the conscious mind was right to divert from it, in order to better understand it.     Many people suggest that other animals are variously conscious, but the argument misunderstands what is really meant by consciousness. As Jeremy Griffith explains in THE Interview, consciousness simply means being sufficiently aware of how experiences are related to attempt to manage change from a basis of understanding. Clearly while other animals have various levels of ‘awareness’, none can consciously manage events like humans can, and so it is accurate to describe humans as the only animals possessing fully conscious minds. It is also worth noting that Jeremy explains that developing consciousness depended on overcoming the competitive, selfish ‘animal condition’ and becoming orientated to selflessness, so if a species is still preoccupied with selfish, competitive dominance, as other animals are, they can’t become fully conscious. We recommend our FAQ 5.4 titled ‘What is consciousness? / Why is it that humans became conscious while other animals haven’t? / How did consciousness emerge in humans?’

Great to have your interest Willie! Jeremy Griffith’s books are immediately available for free HERE on our homepage!! This includes Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM and the booklet version of THE Interview. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. However, if you are particularly wanting a hard copy, you can purchase them from Amazon or other good bookstores.

Yes, Nietzsche was an ever-insightful honest thinker, and accurately foretold just how meaningless life was becoming, to the point that we have now arrived at an end play situation (read more in Freedom Essay 55). Nietzsche also pointed the way to the biological explanation of the human condition, when he recogised that, unlike other animals, humans have had to fight a psychological demon, the human condition. To quote his much acclaimed book Thus Spoke Zarathustra: A Book for Everyone and No One: “Man, however, is the most courageous animal: with his courage he has overcome every animal. With a triumphant shout he has even overcome every pain; human pain, however, is the deepest pain” (see FREEDOM ch 8:11B). Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for this ‘deepest pain’, the pain of not being able to know whether humans were fundamentally evil beings or not. We needed to answer the question of why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM.

    THE Interview confronts and solves the human condition—our species’ capacity for ‘good and evil’. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM, see FAQ 1.3 for a summary.     There is no cost involved. The World Transformation Movement is a global not-for-profit organisation. This is a scientific pursuit and we make all our publications, subscription and membership freely available on our website – see our FAQs about the WTM.

    Yes, bonobos are living in a state that is beginning to approximate the ‘paradise’ that our human ancestors lived in before the emergence of the human condtion, and provide an incredible insight into how nurturing created humanity. However, key to returning to that state is understanding the good reason why we had to leave it, which is what Jeremy Griffith presents with the instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condtion. And what is so marvellous about that explanation is that the understanding of the human condition is relevant to everyone, and heals all our psychosis, no matter what the circumstances of our lives. Certainly there is a lot of healing to be done, and that healing will in time include healing our ability to nurture, which has been terribly compromised under the human condition (see chapters 8:16C and 8:16D of Jeremy’s book FREEDOM, which explains the effect on children of compromised maternal AND paternal nurturing), but that healing is open to everyone, right now. As distinguished psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen (who wrote the foreword to FREEDOM) said: “What Griffith is presenting is understanding of the source insecurity that the whole human race suffers from for having destroyed our species’ innocent soul. It is a universal self-blame that his understanding at last provides healing insight into. All human behavior is saturated with that universal insecure, depressing state and resulting anger, egocentricity and alienation that has developed from it, but we finally have the compassionate foundation insight needed to dismantle all that ‘upset’/psychosis. So the real psychotherapy of our collective and individual psychoses can begin” see FAQ 1.34.     With regard to religious doctrine of original sin, with the human condition explained we can understand the more upset people became, the more they needed to try to obey the ‘Godly’ ideals of life that religions taught, but the problem was such condemnation of upset behaviour could be extremely terrorising and oppressive. Obviously what was desperately missing was reconciling understanding of our upset behaviour and the Godly ideals; reconciling understanding of the human condition in fact — which is exactly what Jeremy presents us with. So no longer does anybody have to be terrorised by religious dogma. They can understand what such religious doctrine was providing (even though it could be hurtful) and the great role religions played in humanity’s journey (see FAQ 6.3 about understanding religion).

Thanks for your thoughts James however, as THE Interview explains, for humans to return to our original nurturing and cooperative instinctive behaviour (which the bonobos evidence) we had to first confront and solve the human condition. We had to answer the age-old question of why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. It is only with the intellect defended for why it had to defy our loving instincts and become angry, egocentric and alienated, can we legitimately return to the nurturing, loving and sensitive state we once lived in, summarised in FAQ 1.3.

Carol, our homepage—HumanCondition.com—provides an initial guide to learn more (and it is all FREE, and no registration required). At the top of the homepage it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and leads you through the steps to pursue your interest, including Jeremy Griffith’s books; our free, live, interactive events which you can register for here and we encourage you to join our popular Facebook Group.

The central tenet of Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that humans have a cooperative, loving instinctive heritage, not a brutish, savage and aggressive one, and that the source of our aggression is a psychosis that has been compounding ever since the instinct and intellect clashed. Therefore it follows that the further back in history we go, the less psychologically upset a race of people will be, and so the more cooperative and loving they will be – and we can see evidence of this in existing ‘primitive’races of people, such as in indigenous cultures, which is what you have identified. So the answer is that primitive races are relatively innocent compared with other races; however, it needs to pointed out that they are still members of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, so they are still psychologically upset angry egocentric and alienated, but not to the point where they can’t live peacefully. You might be interested in chapter 8:12 of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM, which discusses the relatively innocent Bushmen of the Kalahari at some length.

    Thank you for your wonderful comment, Nonkabi! Our interactive live events with Jeremy Griffith and others are a great way to participate, have questions answered, and interact with others to enhance your comprehension of this breakthrough explanation of the human condition. You can register for these totally free events on our homepage here. Also our Facebook Group provides a wonderful platform for participating in, or just observing, interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science.     Also, by registering to our mailing list you have the option to receive our Freedom Essay series which serves as a wonderfully comprehensive course as it guides you through much of the content of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM in beautifully illustrated bite-size pieces.

    Yes, this information certainly brings down the walls! Our homepage—HumanCondition.com—provides an initial guide for you Kirsten, and it is all 100% FREE! At the top it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and leads you through the steps to pursue your interest, including Jeremy Griffith’s books; our free, live, interactive events which you can register for here and we encourage you to join our popular Facebook Group.     Also, by registering to our mailing list you have the option to receive our Freedom Essay series which serves as a wonderfully comprehensive course as it guides you through much of the content of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM in beautifully illustrated bite-size pieces.     And please feel free get in contact with us at [email protected] with any thoughts or questions you may have along the way Kirsten.

Hi Audrey, it is wonderful you are accessing the relief of understanding the human condition. This pandemic has been a really difficult time for so many and as Jeremy Griffith says at the beginning of THE Interview, “The turmoil and trauma of this pandemic has only amplified the now dire need in the world for a deeper, lasting solution to all the chaos and suffering in human life.” We thought you might find helpful psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen’s response to the question ‘How does understanding the human race’s condition help with an individual’s depression and psychosis?’ in FAQ 1.34, and also FAQ 1.35 ‘Does this heal anxiety?’. What is so significant and relieving about having the human condition resolved is we no longer have to be burdened by the fundamental question of whether we are good or bad because our core goodness as individuals and as a species has been biologically established. So we can bring great compassion and kindness to ourselves and others and we don’t have to overly confront the upset within us which is important for everyone to be mindful of. This is summarised in FAQ 1.19 ‘A caution about the danger of over exposure’, and FAQ 4.1 ‘How can everyone’s lives be immediately transformed?’ explains how we can manage that confrontation.

Yes Trudy, the great, hope and faith of humanity has been to find redeeming understanding of our divisive human condition, so when that understanding finally arrives it can seem too good to be true! But we suggest that the more you digest Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation, the more you will realise how realistic and accountable it is in getting to the source of all humanity’s psychological upset, and from there how it makes possible the wonderful and reconciled world we have all dreamed of — see the Transformation page on our website!

Absolutely amazing Jeremy. I’ve got it!! Simple explanation. The penny dropped when you spoke of how the loving bonobos were loving Mothers. And Darwin’s theory. What a relief. I always thought infants thrived with an unconditional love and support for as long as required. The world psychosis of war and selfishness is due to Genes Versus Nerves. Amazing. Thanks Jeremy

    Thanks Michael, our FAQ 1.14 explains why this ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition isn’t yet mainstream, with the short answer being that the human condition has historically been an off-limits subject, and as a result people can find it difficult to take in or ‘hear’ discussion of it; others can even become hostile to opening the whole arena. But momentum is building; apart from the excited responses, our homepage shows the rapidly growing appreciation and support for the WTM with outstanding commendations from thought leaders and WTM Centres all over the world! Also, every day more people join our Facebook Group and register for our live events with Jeremy Griffith to share in this transforming knowledge so we hope you do too!     P.S. you might be interested in watching or reading Jeremy’s masterpiece presentation because in it he talks about how the explanation of our fundamental goodness as a species brings true therapy to the child within.

    Explanation of the human condition does produce a huge paradigm shift so it takes a little while to see how it all works, but all of Jeremy Griffith’s writings explain how real and transformational change is immediately open to us all. This is summarised in FAQs 1.4 to 1.6; Freedom Essay 15: ‘How our lives can be immediately transformed’; and on the Transformation page of our website, which is brimming with invaluable insights and personal affirmations that demonstrate how this understanding has transformed their lives and that of their families.     On the macro level, as with any new scientific breakthrough in history it will take time to gain mainstream acceptance, and from there break through the bastions of power in the world. However, with support from those who appreciate this understanding, the truth is that this redeeming, uplifting and healing explanation of the human condition is SO liberating and SO exciting that it won’t be long be everyone realises that it is completely pointless to keep trying to compensate for their insecurity through the pursuit of power, fame, fortune and glory. Basically, so exciting and relieving is this breakthrough, and the freedom from the human condition that is now on offer, that everyone will want it, and so it will catch on like wildfire and this is already happening. Just read the ecstatic responses THE Interview is receiving on our homepage and scroll down to see the rapidly growing appreciation and support for the WTM with outstanding commendations from thought leaders and WTM Centres all over the world!

While it takes some time to digest, we suggest that what is unique about Jeremy Griffith’s work is that he has answered the essential question of why, when the universal ideals are to be loving and selfless, are we so competitive and selfish, to the extent that we have nearly destroyed ourselves and our natural world? (See FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this idea original or new?’) And with our dark side and truthfully explained and defended we can finally love ourselves and bring about a rehabilitated world, free of suffering, for ourselves and future generations, which you can learn all about on our Transformation page.

It’s wonderful to have your interest, Joan! Our interactive live events with Jeremy Griffith and others are a great way to participate, have questions answered, and interact with others to enhance your comprehension of this breakthrough explanation of the human condition. You can register for these totally free events on our homepage here. Also our Facebook Group provides a wonderful platform for participating in, or just observing, interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science.

Thank you for your comment, Dan. Life has certainly not been right under the duress of the human condition which has caused so much unthinkable pain and anxiety. What is significant about being able to understand the human condition is we no longer have to be burdened by the fundamental question we all have struggled with of whether we are good or bad anymore because our fundamental goodness as a species has been biologically established (which THE Interview and Video/Freedom Essay 3 summarises). That macro truth looks after all humans now and we can treat ourselves with great compassion and truly love ourselves at last. You may find psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen’s response to the question ‘How does understanding the human race’s condition help with an individual’s depression and psychosis? helpful – see FAQ 1.34; and FAQ 1.35 ‘Does this heal anxiety?’ is also extremely helpful.

As THE Interview explains ‘we have had to smother ourselves with material glory while we lacked the spiritual glory of compassionate understanding of ourselves’, even if that material gain was achieved through nefarious means. It takes time to see how this biological understanding stops our selfishness and greed but because it addresses the core insecurity that has been driving it, it actually does (see FAQ 1.6 ‘Why does understanding of the human condition solve everything?’)

Yes, Tan, Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition brings biological understanding to religious accounts of our condition, which means we can at last reconcile science and religion. For instance, as THE Interview explains, the story of Adam and Eve is a pre-scientific metaphor for the emergence of consciousness and its clash with our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts, resulting in humans becoming psychologically upset or ‘sinful’ or ‘evil’. However, significantly we can now understand, from scientific first principles, that ‘Adam and Eve’ were ‘good’ to search for knowledge, not bad or ‘evil’; we humans are actually the absolute heroes of the whole story! It couldn’t be a bigger breakthrough. You might be interested in our FAQs about religion, especially 6.2 ‘What is God’ and 6.3 ‘Does this understanding undermine religion’. Also there are Jeremy’s Freedom Essays 38 – 41 about the demystification of religion which are absolutely fascinating.

    Our homepage—HumanCondition.com—provides an initial guide for you Doris, and it is all 100% FREE (no registration required)! At the top it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and leads you through the steps to pursue your interest! Including Jeremy Griffith’s books; our free, live, interactive events which you can register for here and we encourage you to join our popular Facebook Group.     Also, by registering to our mailing list you have the option to receive our Freedom Essay series which serves as a wonderfully comprehensive course as it guides you through much of the content of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM in beautifully illustrated bite-size pieces. These essays are also available as podcasts which you can download at the top of each essay or listen to on our World Transformation Movement App (available from the App Store) and Spotify.

    Thank you very much for your comment, Julius. What is so extraordinary about the explanation of the human condition is that we can now see that our intellect had to defy our instincts , and by explaining the very good reason why it had to (which is that genes can orientate but nerves need to understand) all our defensive behaviours (our anger, egocentricity and alienation), are made redundant. It is this defence of our ‘dark side’ that ends up bringing about the loving world that we have all longed for.     As with any new scientific breakthrough it will take time to reach the whole world, and because the human condition has historically been such a terrifying realm, no-where is this resistance greater than when attempting to bring understanding to the human condition – but with enough people developing a deep appreciation and desire to support it our problems will be solved very quickly (see FAQ 1.6), and as the ecstatic responses at the top of our homepage show, every day more people are discovering the astonishing explanatory power of this understanding.     Finally, as you intimate, Jeremy Griffith’s instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition at last reconciles science and religion by bringing biological understanding to pre-scientific concepts. In fact what people discover is it is the fulfilment of a time that all the great prophets looked forward to when we could actually explain ourselves. His work simply brings biological understanding to religion’s pre-scientific descriptions of our condition (see our FAQs about religion).

Am so enthralled, thankyou for making this so accessible. Loved it, made me feel both relieved and peaceful.

    Hi Fyzah, explanation of the human condition does produce a huge paradigm shift in our thinking, which does takes time to digest so we encourage you to keep listening to THE Interview. Regarding your comment that animals are sentient, one of the great outstanding mysteries of science is ‘what is consciousness, and how did it emerge?’ Jeremy Griffith explains in THE Interview that consciousness simply means being sufficiently aware of how experiences are related to attempt to manage change from a basis of understanding. Clearly while other animals have various levels of ‘awareness’, none can consciously manage events like humans can, and so it is accurate to describe humans as the only animals possessing fully conscious minds. It is also worth noting that Jeremy explains that developing consciousness depended on overcoming the competitive, selfish ‘animal condition’ and becoming orientated to selflessness, so if a species is still preoccupied with selfish, competitive dominance, as other animals are, they can’t become fully conscious. We recommend our FAQ 5.4 titled ‘What is consciousness? / Why is it that humans became conscious while other animals haven’t? / How did consciousness emerge in humans?’     To the extent that selfless behaviour is discernable amongst other animals, Jeremy recognises the extraordinary cooperativeness of bonobos (see FAQ 5.2). He proposes they demonstrate the nurturing based love-indoctrination process that we humans went through. Jeremy explains that every species would try to develop as much love-indoctrinated integration as their circumstances permit, which can be seen in animals like dolphins and elephants, but how their physical and environmental situations have limited them from achieving that, meaning they still remain in the genetically selfish ‘animal condition’ (see Freedom Expanded Book 1).

    While it is true that Jeremy Griffith’s biological ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition allows us to understand the real merits and liabilities of both the left and right wing, there is no ‘political agenda’ at work – the only agenda is to end human suffering. As such, his work certainly doesn’t excuse the right-wing for its corrupting behaviour, nor unfairly focus on the failing of the left, which is that its insistence on ideal behaviour had the effect of oppressing the search for knowledge, but rather brings a profound understanding to both sides which ultimately will bring an end to the whole ugly business of politics. This is fully explained in our FAQs about politics, see www.humancondition.com/frequently-asked-questions/#about-politics/     The only ‘agenda’ of this information is to end suffering; there is no ‘political agenda’.

As THE Interview explains all humans suffer, to varying degrees, from the universal psychosis caused by the clash between our instinct and intellect which significantly can be healed through understanding. Understanding why, when the ideals are to be loving and selfless, are we so competitive and selfish, gives us the ability, for the first time, to understand every aspect of human behaviour including our immense need for self-validation, for a win. As distinguished psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen (who wrote the foreword to Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM) said: “What Griffith is presenting is understanding of the source insecurity that the whole human race suffers from for having destroyed our species’ innocent soul. It is a universal self-blame that his understanding at last provides healing insight into. All human behavior is saturated with that universal insecure, depressing state and resulting anger, egocentricity and alienation that has developed from it, but we finally have the compassionate foundation insight needed to dismantle all that ‘upset’/psychosis. So the real psychotherapy of our collective and individual psychoses can begin” (see FAQ 1.34).

As WTM FAQ 1.9 ‘Should people be sceptical’ explains, Professor Harry Prosen, a former president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, has endorsed the significance of Jeremy Griffith’s treatise, saying “I have no doubt Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race.” So while your scepticism is warranted given, the amazing fact is that they all withstand scrutiny. A person can begin reading the explanation and the more they read into it the more they will realise the claims are actually true, and in time become appreciated for their forthright honesty in indicating where the solution to our problems lies. You may also find psychiatrist Professor Prosen’s response to the question ‘How does understanding the human race’s condition help with an individual’s depression and psychosis? helpful – see FAQ 1.34, as well as FAQ 1.35 ‘Does this heal anxiety?’.

Yes Alexandra, ‘free will’ or the conscious mind’s ability to self-manage certainly means we aren’t controlled by our instincts any more. However, we suggest that as you digest this understanding more, you will see that rather than just being free of our instincts, the conscious mind’s ability to make endless choices meant that it would have in effect been criticised by those instincts for straying from their dictates. As THE Interview explains, the conscious mind had to defy this criticism in order to continue experimenting with more choices, and this defiance of our instincts resulted in humans becoming angry, egocentric and alienated — the upset state of our human condition. Read more about the ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition in FAQ 1.3.