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Hi Mona, the following are our recommended next steps to further your interest, including links to all of Jeremy Griffith’s key books and to subscribe to our mailing list to be sent a Freedom Essay each week! • Subscribe to our free Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. • Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition. • Read the Key Books by Jeremy Griffith. • Join and participate in our private Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. • Help this critical new science by sharing it!

Thanks so much for your comment Suzanne, we very much appreciate your interest and perserverence. Essentially we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are humans so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. The human condition manifests in different ways in all as a result of our own experiences and exposure to the world, but the clash between instinct and intellect is the source of all our insecurity and subsequent anger, egocentricity and alienation, and so explaining it makes all those defensive behaviours redundant. We suggest you read the very brief summary in FAQ 1.3 and then re-watch THE Interview. Also watching the video series that follows THE Interview is great as that series elaborates on what’s been presented — so there’ll be some repetition, but going over the concepts in more detail does help with the understanding and absorption of them.

Thank you

Hi Malik, Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM is freely available on our homepage HERE along with all his other key books, including THE Interview.

    In response to your comment, we wanted to refer you to the words of WTM Kolkata Centre founder Sanjoy Pal, who has spoken of his respect for Krishnamurti and others, and the unique significance of Jeremy Griffith’s work. To quote: “My other sources of inspiration are Gautama Buddha, Charles Darwin, Aldous Huxley, and J. Krishnamurti. I have great respect for their insightful teachings and all of them recognised the conflicted nature of humans, but unfortunately they also could not explain convincingly the root cause of our conflicted [“irrational”] nature and how to solve it or break free. So, no matter how much I learned from these inspirational sources as well as others, the puzzle of all puzzles, the fundamental nature of humans, eluded me—until I stumbled on THE Interview of Australian biologist Jeremy Griffith. Jeremy’s interview was amazing and astonishingly insightful, as all the missing pieces of the great jigsaw puzzle of human nature fell into their proper places, just like connecting all the dots and providing the solution. In a nutshell, all humans are fundamentally good and not bad or evil according to the non-abstract biological explanation of Jeremy Griffith which is based on evidence and scientific first principle.”     Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why, when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless, are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological insight Jeremy presents. We suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ And, in closing, now that we can explain and understand where all our insecure, defensive, irrational behaviours came from, we can bring them to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition! Krishnamurti’s one desire to set humanity ‘unconditionally free’ is realised!

Hi Glen, it will take some time to break through fixed patterns of thought, as well as the bastions of power in the world, but once this information gets a foothold through enough people developing a deep appreciation and desire to support it, the selfless love and energy that will generated will solve our problems very quickly because instead of being preoccupied with seeking power, all our energies will be freed to truly work together and focus on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering in all the corners of the world. The essential point is that all the dysfunction and destruction in the world, including war, is a reflection of the conflict within us. What is so important about what Jeremy Griffith presents with the ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition, is that it actually solves that discord by reconciling instinct and intellect. By explaining the very good reason why our intellect had to defy our instincts (which is that genes can orientate but nerves need to understand) means all our defensive behaviours (our anger, egocentricity and alienation), are now redundant. You might be interested in reading more in FAQ 1.6: ‘Why this solves everything’.

    Hi Ellen, thank you for your feedback. The central tenet of Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that humans have a cooperative, loving instinctive heritage, not a brutish, savage and aggressive one, and that the source of our aggression is a psychosis that has been compounding ever since the instinct and intellect clashed some 2 million years ago. It follows then that the further back in history we go, the less psychologically upset a race of people will be, and so the more nurturing, cooperative and loving they will be – and we can see evidence of this in existing indigenous races of people, such as Native American people, as you have identified. However, it needs to pointed out that even so-called ‘primitive’ races are still members of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, so they are still psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated. To ultimately return to a fully loving, cooperative state, we needed to find the scientific explanation for why we as a species left that cooperative state. Why, when the ideals are to be loving and cooperative, are we so selfish, competitive and destructive? Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his definitive book, FREEDOM.     And regarding your concern over how the majority of people will be convinced of this understanding: as with any new scientific breakthrough in history, it takes time for people to absorb and realise this is the universal solution to all the problems we face but once it catches on—through people recognising the importance of it—the infectious enthusiasm and selfless love it liberates will spread like wildfire and this is starting to happen! You can see this growing appreciation and support for the WTM with outstanding commendations from thought leaders and WTM Centres popping up all over the world here on our homepage. Also FAQ 1.40 ‘Aren’t the problems of the world too overwhelming to ever be fixed? / Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’ may be most helpful, as well as FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ which explains the unique significance of Jeremy’s work.

    Hi Nusheen, thank you for your comment and yes it is a great relief to have the human condition explained scientifically! This therefore does present an entirely new framework of knowledge which can take time to fully absorb so we wanted to clarify the important difference between Jeremy Griffith’s treatise and what yogis have come to using “spiritual discipline”. As Jeremy stresses in Part 2 of this Interview, finding the answer to the human condition ultimately depended on being able to explain our biology. There have been thousands of years of different techniques for calming, disciplining, repressing, and even transcending our psychologically upset human condition and deferring to the soundness of our soul or the meaning of life or ‘God’ (which Jeremy explains is negative entropy or integrativeness, see FAQ 5.3), but none of them have brought an end to the upset state of the human condition—it’s still rampant everywhere. The reason is because they don’t solve the human condition. They don’t deal with the source of our species’ corrupted condition and bring relieving understanding to it. This is what Jeremy’s treatise does and why it is heralded as the biological breakthrough that can save the world. We recommend reading FAQ 1.13 and FAQ 6.5 as they explain this critical difference in more detail.     Also, THE Interview, explains our psychological upset state, what you describe as our “titan” or “lower nature”, is not genetic but the result of a psychosis, caused by the clash between our instinct and intellect and, significantly, a psychosis can be healing with understanding. It is this healing understanding that reconciles all the dualities in human life including politics, summarised in FAQ 7.1.

While it takes some time to digest, we suggest that what is unique about Jeremy Griffith’s work is that he has answered the essential question of why, when the universal ideals are to be integrative are we so disintegrative? Our endeavours in philosophy, psychology and biology have failed, until now, to provide a truthful, real, fully accountable, genuinely clarifying explanation. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents here. We suggest FAQ 1.13 and also FAQ 1.6 ‘Why does understanding the human condition solves everything’.

Thank you for your thoughts Kevin. We certainly respect people’s religious views but, for the readers of this comment, it is important to mention that Jeremy Griffith’s work doesn’t contradict a belief in God or Christianity. It simply brings biological understanding to all those pre-scientific concepts. People may like to explore our FAQs about religion, in particular FAQ 6.2 ‘What is God’ and FAQ 6.3 ‘Does this undermine religion/God’.

Hi Ben, thanks for your comment. Yes we feel guilty for our destructive behaviour but that is clearly not stopping us destroying the world. Only by confronting and solving the source of our destructive behaviour can we stop it and save the world and that is what this critical new science does. It gets to the root of the problem and solves it! As the distinguished psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen said: “What Griffith is presenting is understanding of the source insecurity that the whole human race suffers from for having destroyed our species’ innocent soul. It is a universal self-blame that his understanding at last provides healing insight into. All human behavior is saturated with that universal insecure, depressing state and resulting anger, egocentricity and alienation that has developed from it, but we finally have the compassionate foundation insight needed to dismantle all that ‘upset’/psychosis. So the real psychotherapy of our collective and individual psychoses can begin” (see FAQ 1.34). We also recommend watching The Great Guilt (which follows The Interview) where Jeremy Griffith gives an astonishingly interesting and important description of The Great Burden Of Guilt that has finally been lifted from the human race!

It’s all free Antony. The work of the WTM is a scientific pursuit and was not created for profit, so all of our information and materials (including books, videos and podcasts) are provided absolutely free of charge at HumanCondition.com (no email required). So watch this ideal summary interview and see what you think!

Simple, beautiful and a first glimpse of a future where humans can heal and return to living and interacting with our world and all life in it, without destroying it.

It it is wonderful this explanation is resonating with you Arlene however it does take a little time to fully absorb the significance of finally being able to explain the human condition. What it means is we now have the ability, for the first time, to understand every aspect of human behaviour and our behaviour will change naturally as a result. At last we can understand we have been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because at last we have the first principle-based science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it. This is the rapidly transforming practical effect of being able to understand the human condition which Jeremy Griffith’s new presentation The Great Transformation explains. It gives a concise description of how the psychological rehabilitation of humans occurs, and how everyone’s life can immediately be transformed and it is freely available to watch/listen to/read/download on our Transformation Page!

We respect differing opinions Andrew and thank you for your comment. While great care has been taken to present the explanation as quickly and simply as possible, which is done in Part 1 of this Interview, opening up the underlying issue in all human affairs of the human condition does mean that there are several absolutely critical questions to be answered, which make up Parts 2, 3 & 4 of THE Interview. However, FAQ 1.3 presents a very brief summary of the key ‘instinct vs intellect’ concept. Essentially, when we humans developed a conscious mind some 2 million years ago, a battle unavoidably developed between it and our already established instincts. The result of this conflict between our instinct and intellect was that we became psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric – the upset state we refer to as the human condition. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition. As Craig Conway observes in this interview, while this fundamental ‘genes vs nerves’ explanation is extraordinarily simple, it is ‘so far-reaching in its ramifications’ that there is much to explain. When this is taken into account, it can be appreciated that the 1 hour interview is a very, very concise presentation. In terms of your previous comment, there are thousands of comments on this thread but, as we explain on our website to ensure constructive discussion we moderate comments (which may take some hours) and may not publish any we feel are motivated by malice, or that make criticisms already addressed and repudiated, or ask questions already prominently answered on our comprehensive website with its many freely available books, essays and FAQs that can be easily searched electronically.

Great to hear van der Merwe! Please see our reply to Michael below in terms of accessing our books which are made freely available as are all our publications.

Hi Michael, Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM is freely available on our homepage HERE along with all his other key books. Also some are available as audiobooks including the Introduction and the first five chapters of FREEDOM! It isn’t clear if you have watched THE Interview yet but we suggest newcomers start by watching or reading THE Interview (which is the ideal summary presentation) and then it’s companion presentation The Great Guilt which you will find at the link provided. Happy exploring!

Wonderful to have your feedback James and it is a good question you ask which is answered in our FAQ 1.40 ‘How can you hope to transform the world? – In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’. It is explained there that even those who are most committed to seeking validation through gaining power and wealth, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, biological explanation of the human condition that establishes our worth at the most fundamental level. This FAQ includes an excerpt from WTM founding member John Biggs’s Transformation Affirmation (which you can watch or read here) which illustrates how everyone, even those most committed to a life of pursuing power, fame, fortune and glory, will want to take up the Transformed Way of Living.

That’s great Jan and yes, even though the instinct vs intellect concept is very simple and resonates deeply with us, humans have had to live in such fear and denial of our corrupted condition it is common people find they need to watch the interview a few times to fully understand it all. We also recommend reading and/or watching the companion presentation to this interview titled The Great Guilt. It is an astonishingly revealing presentation by Jeremy Griffith which outlines more comprehensively the definition of our human condition, and why engagement with the subject can be initially hard to grasp (also see FAQ 1.16). And, if you want a good quick summary of the explanation, we recommend FAQ 1.3.

We appreciate your question Billy as Jeremy Griffith’s work is not an idealistic plea for everyone to just behave cooperatively, it is a biological defence of realism. When you watch THE Interview it explains how important and meaningful all we have accomplished is with our “adventurous lifestyle”. That is what is so extraordinary about Jeremy’s biological treatise — it logically and accountably defends human selfishness and egocentricity. We can now understand that all our competitive and materialistic behaviour was an unavoidable, indeed necessary and heroic, part of human life. This understanding defends our so-called ‘dark side’; and by explaining the very good reason why our intellect had to defy our instincts, it makes redundant our defensive behaviours of anger, egocentricity and alienation, allowing us to return to a loving state, see FAQ 1.40.

Hi Thomas, there is a feast of reading available on our comprehensive website — and it is all free! Here are our recommended next steps to further your interest including a link to all of Jeremy’s key books and to join our mailing list to be sent an essay each week! • Subscribe to our free Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. • Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition. • Read the Key Books by Jeremy Griffith. • Join and participate in our private Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. • Help this critical new science by sharing it!

Hi Zoe, you can access FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition for free on our website HERE, alongside Jeremy Griffith’s other key books. At this link you will see the many formats available including the audiobook. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. Otherwise, if you particularly want a hard copy, you can purchase them from Amazon or other good bookstores.

Thank you for your comment Teresa and it’s wonderful Jeremy Griffith’s work is reasonating so deeply with you! This certainly explains the source of our defensiveness and also what true enlightenment is which is the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. That is the great breakthrough presented here. Using first principle-based biology, Jeremy explains that understanding why the intellect had to defy our cooperative instincts and become psychologically upset resolves our species’ psychosis. Only by understanding our dark side can we free ourselves from the human condition and bring lasting change to ourselves and the world. For the benefit of readers of these comments we wanted to highlight this critical difference between Jeremy’s work and new age enlightenment, see FAQ 6.5.

Thank you for your thoughts Ron. Jeremy Griffith’s work explains that all the crises the world faces, including people’s indifference and conflicts, corruption and materialism are merely symptoms of a deeper problem that will not fundamentally change until we end the underlying insecurity that is causing it all, which is exactly what Jeremy’s explanation of the human condition in THE Interview does. Jeremy explains humans’ psychological upset is not a product of a genetic drive to survive but the result of a universal psychosis, caused by the clash between our instinct and intellect. And, significantly, a psychosis is changeable as it can be healed through understanding so the solution is simple and all-powerful, see FAQ 1.6. You might also like to read FAQ 6.4 which explains prophets are rare individuals who have had the great good fortune of being sufficiently nurtured with unconditional love during their upbringing to not have to resign to living in denial of the human condition and can thus think truthfully and effectively about human behaviour. In terms of Christianity and Christ, Jeremy considers the Bible to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing all the truth about human life albeit from that pre-science view, and he has written about Christ’s life and its phenomenal importance in humanity’s journey in Freedom Essay 39.

    Thank you for your feedback, Janine. It’s great that Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition, the KEY insight to “chang[ing] this messed up world” is resonating with you. What is so breathtakingly beautiful and amazing about Jeremy’s fully accountable scientific explanation is that it truly allows us to forgive ourselves for our angry, egocentric and alienated behaviour. We can now understand WHY we are not bad, which is why this understanding is described as ‘redeeming, reconciling and rehabilitating’. As the distinguished psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen (who wrote the Introduction to Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM) said: “What Griffith is presenting is understanding of the source insecurity that the whole human race suffers from for having destroyed our species’ innocent soul. It is a universal self-blame that his understanding at last provides healing insight into. All human behavior is saturated with that universal insecure, depressing state and resulting anger, egocentricity and alienation that has developed from it, but we finally have the compassionate foundation insight needed to dismantle all that ‘upset’/psychosis. So the real psychotherapy of our collective and individual psychoses can begin”.     With regard to bonobos, there is no suggestion here that humans are descended from bonobos, however, what is being suggested is that bonobos have encountered the same conditions and are going through the same process that our distant ancestors did, and therefore provide an extraordinary insight into our distant ancestors. The evidence for this is bonobos’ similarity to those ancestors, as well as similarities in the environment. In chapter 5:5 of FREEDOM, Jeremy Griffith includes an analysis of the hominin fossil record (particularly Ardipithecus) that evidences that on the basis of physique, intelligence, small canines, bipedality the bonobos present a very accurate model of our human ancestors.

Thank you for your feedback, Teresa. While great care has been taken to make the explanation as simple and easily comprehensible as possible, the explanation of the human condition does open up a long-forbidden area for humans and that can make it initially difficult to access; see FAQ 1.16 ‘Why can’t I understand this’.

Wow. I understand finally.

Thanks

Hi Deborah, the name of the book mentioned in THE Interview is FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition, which you can access for free on our website here, alongside Jeremy Griffith’s other key books. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. Otherwise, if you particularly want a hard copy, you can purchase them from Amazon or other good bookstores.

Hi Bethany, thank you so much for your wonderful comment! THE Interview and Jeremy Griffith’s main book FREEDOM are free and immediately available to read online or download HERE on our homepage with no email registration required. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. And we hope you pursue your interest by joining our Facebook Group where profound and enlightening discussions about this biological explanation of the human condition are taking place — it’s a wonderful place to join in all the excitement and wonder about this new paradigm of understanding ourselves!

Amazing

Thank you very much for your response, Cheryl. THE Interview and Jeremy Griffith’s main book FREEDOM are free and immediately available to read online or download HERE on our homepage with no email registration required! We also encourage you to visit our homepage — HumanCondition.com — that provides an initial guide on how to participate, including registering to be informed of our free, interactive, live events with Jeremy Griffith and others, which provide a great way to enhance your comprehension of this breakthrough explanation of the human condition. And our Facebook Group provides a wonderful platform for participating in interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science.

    Thank you Mauricio, there are no requirements to be met other than an interest in seeking the solution to what is a world in crisis: polarised ideologies, conflict, corruption, failed states, refugees, rampant levels of anxiety, loneliness and depression, family breakdown, drugs, fraught younger generations, environmental devastation. And it is precisely that insight that Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview and fully in his definitive presentation, FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition — both of which you can access in many formats for free here.     So please feel free to participate through the following suggestions!! • Subscribe to our free Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. • Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition. Totally free, no registration required. • Join and participate in our Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. • Visit our Translations page that shows all languages currently available, including Spanish! • Contact your nearest WTM Centre, there are over 60 around the world, including Centres in the Spanish speaking regions of Madrid and Colombia. • And please help this critical new science by sharing it!

    Hi Tracey, the key point to make here is that with Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition we can at last understand and reconcile the immense gulf that has existed between men and women. We can also understand why men especially, but also women, suffer from the human condition and all its related behaviours including selfishness, anger and egocentricity, but that all humans are equally good, worthwhile, meaningful and wonderful regardless of gender, age, religion, etc. See biologist Dr Anna Fitzgerald’s video commendation about how this explanation enables the real liberation of women and also FAQ 8.1 ‘How does this reconcile the sexes’.     To read about what bonobos tell us about our own evolutionary heritage, and how, thanks to their ideal nursery conditions south of the Congo River in Africa (an environment that provides uninterrupted access to food, shelter and territory), they are nurturing, peaceful and matriarchal, in marked contrast to the male-dominated, often violent, common chimpanzees, please see Freedom Essays 21 and 22.

Hi Marianne, and in fact every person on the planet should get FREEDOM, which is available for free here, along with Jeremy Griffith’s other key books. The selfishness, alienation and corruption in the world is so immense. However, if we can explain and address the source of the problem — the “truth” we are all so “hungry” for — we can solve it, and that is exactly what we suggest Jeremy has done. What is so extraordinary about this breakthrough is we can now understand the fundamental reason why people want more than they need; we can now understand the source of greed and corruption and the need for material sustenance and power at all costs. When the conscious mind went in search of knowledge a conflict between our instinct and intellect broke out, leading to an undeserved sense of guilt and insecurity that caused us to become psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric, the upset state we refer to as the human condition — a state we sought to alleviate through a competitive, selfish and aggressive bid for the reinforcement we could gain from winning power, fame, fortune and glory. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict and the guilt it produced, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition.

Hi Joseph, thank you for your interest and desire to reach out to others, we very much appreciate it. Our homepage — HumanCondition.com — provides an initial guide on how to participate, including registering to be informed of our free, interactive, live events with Jeremy Griffith and others, which provide a great way to enhance your comprehension of this breakthrough explanation of the human condition. And our Facebook Group provides a wonderful platform for participating in interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science, and communicate it to others. We then recommend you visit our 'How to Help' page, for a list of suggestions for how to share this breakthrough, including a link to the many translations that are now available.

Thanks for your enthusiastic response, Rosie. To learn more, the following are our recommended next steps: • Subscribe to our free Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. • Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition. Totally free, no registration required. • Read the Key Books by Jeremy Griffith. Totally free to download, no registration required. • Join and participate in our Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. • And please help this critical new science by sharing it!

Hi Paul, Jeremy Griffith stresses throughout his work that religion has contained all manner of truth about the human condition, albeit without the benefit of science; to this end, the Kabbalah recognises that Adam and Eve were not sinful, but trying to fulfil a great purpose in eating from the tree of knowledge, while the gnostic tradition in Christianity has a similar emphasis on the importance of the search for knowledge. Most versions of the Bible do, however, stress that Adam and Eve were ‘disobedient’ or ‘bad’ to take the ‘apple’ of knowledge. For example, as Jeremy explains in Part 2 of THE Interview: “the Biblical story of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden that Moses wrote so long ago in about 1,500 BC actually perfectly describes the psychologically upsetting battle that emerged between our instincts and conscious intellect. It says Adam and Eve/we humans took the ‘fruit’ (Genesis 3:3) ‘from the tree of knowledge’ (Gen. 2:9, 17) and were ‘disobedient’ (the term widely used in descriptions of Gen. 3). In other words, we developed a conscious mind and free will. But in that pre-scientific story it says Adam and Eve then became ‘evil’ (Gen. 3:22) perpetrators of ‘sin’ (Gen. 4:7) because they became angry, egocentric and alienated, and as a result Moses said they were ‘banished…from the Garden of Eden’ (Gen. 3:23) state of cooperative and loving innocence.” With the benefit of science, thankfully we can now explain that they, we humans, weren’t bad at all; in fact, we are the heroes of the story of life on Earth! You might be interested in the WTM’s FAQs about religion that explain that religion deserves praise for being a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing all the truth about human life albeit from a pre-scientific view.