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Hi Ronald, you can access all of Jeremy Griffith’s key books, including THE Interview and his main book FREEDOM, HERE on our homepage. Jeremy has published nine books and the human condition and they are all free to read online/download/print. You can also download the free Kindle versions from Amazon. (Hard copies can be purchased from Amazon or other good bookstores.) Also, to pursue your interest you might like subscribe to our mailing list to receive free weekly essays and occasional updates.

Well at last Catherina we have the solution to our anger and we can free ourselves from the human condition! This is what is so significant about this breakthrough. Jeremy Griffith has answered the essential question of why, when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish by explaining the difference between the way the intellect and instincts work. As he explains in Part 2 of THE Interview: “until science revealed the difference between the gene-based and nerve-based learning systems—which is that genes can orientate but nerves need to understand—that we were finally in a position to explain the good reason for our angry, egocentric and alienated human condition.” So now that we can explain and understand our conflicted state and the guilt it produced, all our insecure, angry, egocentric behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. This is briefly and wonderfully explained in our FAQ 1.5 ‘Why is understanding of the human condition important to my life?’

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Hi Glo, this interview provides the ideal introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s work and from there our homepage — HumanCondition.com — provides a wonderful road map to progress with all our key material made freely available and you can subscribe to our mailing list to receive free weekly essays and occasional updates. Joining our popular Facebook Group is another exciting way to learn about the human condition as there is much fascinating discussion taking place! Just click here to join and we hope to see you there!

    Absolutely Tonia, let’s start right now!!! As Jeremy said in Part 4, it will take generations to completely ameliorate all the upset in humans BUT everyone can be immediately free of it which is so significant! To quote:     "So there is an enormous amount of upset to subside and heal in us humans, and that will obviously take time. In fact, we have to expect that it will take a number of generations to be completely ameliorated. But the good news, and this is very important, is that while it will take a number of generations to heal all the upset in us humans, everyone can immediately live free of their upset. The reason we can live free of it is that while we lacked the real defence and reinforcement of understanding of our corrupted condition, we absolutely needed the artificial defences and reinforcements of attacking any criticism of our corrupted condition, of denying and blocking it out, and of finding any positive reinforcement we could—anger, alienation and egocentricity are what sustained us—but now that we have the real defence and reinforcement of our fundamental goodness, all these artificial defences and reinforcements are obsoleted, they are no longer needed. In fact, to continue using the old artificial defences of retaliation, denial and the search for relieving power, fame, fortune and glory when our fundamental goodness has been established is not only clearly pointless but also unnecessarily destructive of ourselves, everyone around us and our planet. That way of living is now completely obsoleted, finished with."

That’s great Natasa! You can watch THE Interview at the top of our homepage—HumanCondition.com—where you will also see the ecstatic daily responses it is receiving! As people have been asking for it to be translated into other languages you can also see all the translations that are currently available on our Translations page. We’d love to hear what you think after you watch it!

Hi Laura, audios, and many other formats, of Jeremy Griffith’s key books (including THE Interview) are available HERE on our homepage. Just click ‘Get your copy for FREE!’ to see all the formats and translations that are available. We are still in the process of completing the audiobook of FREEDOM, however the Introduction and chapters 1-4 are available. Also, all the hundreds of audios of most of our books, essays and videos are now in the WTM App. Just search ‘World Transformation Movement’ in the App Store and Google Play and on Spotify and you can download it for free and there is no sign in required.

While great care has been taken to present the information as quickly and simply as possible Martia (which is done in Part 1 of THE Interview) explanation of the human condition can be initially difficult to access. This is because it has been the most terrifying of subjects to face as it is the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad as a species, and we have necessarily lived in almost total denial of it. For those interested we suggest looking at The Great Guilt where Jeremy Griffith explains this initial ‘deaf effect’ and how to overcome it. Also FAQ 1.3 presents a very brief summary of the key ‘instinct vs intellect’ concept.

    Thank you for your comment V. Jeremy Griffith’s publications present the breakthrough biological explanation of the underlying issue in all human affairs of the human condition, our species’ capacity for so-called ‘good’ and ‘evil’ (summarised in this interview). In so doing, compassionate and thus safe understanding is brought to all of human behaviour, be it our individual lives, philosophy (the study of ‘the truths underlying all reality’), science, politics or religion. As Jeremy writes in his definitive book FREEDOM (par 47), “Throughout history we have struggled to find meaning in the awesome contradiction of our human condition. Our endeavours in philosophy, psychology and biology have failed, until now, to provide a truthful, real, psychosis-addressing-and-solving…fully accountable, genuinely clarifying explanation. And for their part, while religious assurances such as ‘God loves you’ may have provided temporary comfort, they too failed to explain WHY we are lovable.”     Jeremy has great respect for philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche and has mentioned him in several of his books. For instance in Death by Dogma (part 12) he quotes him thus: “...it is a case of getting artificial feel-good relief from the unbearable guilt of the human condition at all costs, and it is at ‘all costs’ because it meant the human race was abandoning the all-important heroic search for knowledge and any chance of finding the understanding of the human condition that would actually end the agony of the human condition, which thankfully has arrived in the nick of time to save the world from this horrific death by dogma...So, we can now fully understand from a basis of truthful, first principle biology how dangerous pseudo idealism has been, and appreciate the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche’s warnings that ‘There have always been many sickly people among those who invent fables and long for God [ideality]: they have a raging hate for the enlightened man and for that youngest of virtues which is called honesty…Purer and more honest of speech is the healthy body, perfect and square-built: and it speaks of the meaning of the earth [which is to fight for knowledge, ultimately self-knowledge, understanding of the human condition]…You are not yet free, you still search for freedom. Your search has fatigued you…But, by my love and hope I entreat you: do not reject the hero in your soul! Keep holy your highest hope!…War [against oppression, especially from dogma] and courage have done more great things than charity. Not your pity but your bravery has saved the unfortunate up to now’ (Thus Spoke Zarathustra: A Book for Everyone and No One, 1892; tr. R.J. Hollingdale, 1961, pp.61-75 of 343)”

Great to have your interest Phillipa! You may find our reply to Ann below of interest in terms of the extraordinary insight bonobos present into our distant ancestors.

    Yes it is wonderful Ann that we can now know humans are innately loving and not naturally violent! As is explained our violence is not driven by our genes but rather it’s source is psychological. Our emerging conscious mind came into conflict with our preestablished loving instincts which caused us to become angry, egocentric and alienated sufferers of the human condition. In Part 3 especially Jeremy Griffith evidences this key biological distinction that humans suffer from the conscious-mind-based, psychologically troubled human condition, not the genetic-opportunism-based, animal condition (which bonobos still suffer from as even though they are extraordinarily nurturing and cooperative there are remnants of selfish reciprocity, sexual opportunism and aggression in their behaviour). And, most significantly, as Part 4 explains a psychosis can be healed with understanding, so our psychologically upset human nature is fixable or changeable—not unchangeable, which is what it would essentially be if it was something that is in our genes and we were born with. So yes there is great hope for our future as you say!     To clarify, the bonobo shares approximately 99% of our DNA but there is no suggestion that humans are descended from bonobos. What is being suggested is that bonobos have encountered the same conditions and are going through the same process that our distant ancestors did, and therefore provide an extraordinary insight into our distant ancestors, see FAQ 5.2 ‘What do bonobos tell us about our own evolutionary heritage?’

I’m very much impressed by the interview about Human Condition!

Thank you for your comment Sheridan. Great wisdom can be found in some spiritual teaching, but ultimately our thinking mind needed understanding—specifically, scientific understanding of why when the ideals are to be loving and selfless are we so competitive and selfish? This is what Jeremy Griffith’s treatise does and why it is heralded as the breakthrough that can save the world. We recommend FAQ 1.13 about why this is new information and FAQ 6.5 which explains the difference between Jeremy’s explanation and spiritual movements and why only by confronting and explaining our ‘dark side’ can we bring love and compassion back to the world.

It is wonderful the explanation is resonating to a degree with you Noel. We encourage you to pursue your interest as this presents a huge paradigm shift in our thinking which takes a little time to see how this understanding does actually solve the human condition (see FAQ 1.6 ‘Why this solves everything’). We recommend our series of Main Videos with the next one to watch, after THE Interview, being The Great Guilt which outlines more comprehensively the definition of our human condition, and why engagement with the subject can take time to fully grasp. Click here to start watching!

Thank you Patricia for your thoughtful comment. Explanation of our human condition opens up an entirely new way of thinking about humans, which is exciting because at last we can “peacefully unite” our instinct and intellect, but it presents a huge paradigm shift in how we view ourselves so yes listening without prejudice is perfect advice! We can now understand that all humans are born with all-loving moral instincts but now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition caused by the conscious mind’s necessary search for knowledge. It certainly is a “wholesome explanation” of how we became conscious and why we became so confused and alienated. We suggest you will very much enjoy Jeremy Griffith’s new book Our Meaning as it further describes how being able to know and fulfil the great objective and meaning of human existence finally ends human suffering and does provide the “pivotal redeeming course correction we need urgently”. Click HERE to access it along with all Jeremy’s key books on our homepage.

    Thank you for your thoughts David. We suggest the more you digest this explanation, the more you realise that the human condition is behind all our actions and motivations, including our greed and selfishness. The point is greed is not the corrupter, rather, it is a symptom of the universal insecure, human condition afflicted state. It follows that if you address that underlying insecurity, then our greed (along with all our other artificial sources of reinforcement) will be removed. And that is what this understanding does – it addresses and solves that core insecurity about our self-worth. In fact, this redeeming, uplifting and healing explanation of the human condition is SO liberating and SO exciting that it won’t be long before everyone realises that it is completely pointless to keep trying to compensate for their insecurity through the pursuit of power, fortune and glory.     You might be interested in FAQ 1.40, which addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’

In Part 3 of this summary presentation Jeremy Griffith does mention God as being the personification of the integrative meaning of life. So Jeremy’s work doesn’t ignore, exclude or contradict a belief in God or religion it simply brings biological understanding to pre-scientific concepts. As our FAQ 5.3 ‘What is God’ explains although this is science, it is based on a ‘Godly’ nature in the sense of recognising, like all the great religions do, that we humans once lived in a pre-human-condition-afflicted state of original innocence where we were perfectly instinctively orientated to the cooperative, selfless, loving, ‘Godly’ ideals of life.

Yes at last we can explain the battle and that it was worth fighting! What is so utterly exonerating about our ability to now understand this is that we can finally appreciate that there was a very good reason—indeed heroic reason—for the battle between our instincts and intellect that produced our psychological upset. We can at last bring great compassion and kindness to the human situation and transform the world. To quote Jeremy Griffith from his definitive book FREEDOM (chapter 4): “Yes, the instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition makes sense of and reconciles all the unresolved manifestations of the polarities of the human situation—‘good’ vs ‘evil’, idealism or ‘God’ vs human’s non-ideal existence, religion vs science, holism vs mechanism, altruism vs egotism, communism vs capitalism, conscience vs conscious, and so on—thus ameliorating or healing, and finally ending, the psychologically upset, divisive way we have been living!” We are sure you will find FAQ 7.1 ‘How does understanding the human condition bring an end to the now horrifically polarised world of politics?’ most interesting.

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Amazing want to hear more.

Seen this once before. Looking to see it again.

Good on you Lilly, it’s so special and important that people who recognise the significance of Jeremy Griffith’s breakthrough explanation of the human condition share it! FREEDOM is immediately available for free HERE on our homepage. At this link you will also find Jeremy’s other key books for free. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon, or purchase hardcopies if you’d prefer.

Well Karen, you will very much enjoy reading Jeremy Griffith’s Freedom Essay 51 titled ‘Sir Laurens van der Post’s great vision’. This essay explains what a profound and brave thinker van der Post was and also discusses (as mentioned in THE Interview) the inspiring, soul-reinforcing influence van der Post has had on Jeremy’s life and how his books about humanity’s lost state of innocence helped Jeremy ultimately solve the human condition. The essay also includes Sir Laurens’ wonderful commendation of Jeremy’s work. We hope you further your interest by registering for free, live, interactive presentations with Jeremy about this immensely relieving understanding. Also our Facebook Group provides a wonderful platform for participating in, or just observing, interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science.

Hi Trina and Dave, it’s wonderful to have your interest. Yes, the study of humans’ capacity for so-called ‘good and evil’ is the realm of inquiry where science and religion overlap, so in explaining the human condition religion is demystified and explained. As the Nobel prize-winning physicist Charles H. Townes recognised, science and religion “both represent man’s efforts to understand his universe and must ultimately be dealing with the same substance. As we understand more in each realm, the two must grow together…converge they must.” And this is what Jeremy Griffith’s work does. It reconciles science and religion by bringing biological understanding to religion’s pre-scientific descriptions of our condition (see our FAQs about religion).

Hi Pierre, yes, it can take some deeper digestion to see the full significance of at last being able to make sense of the great paradox of the human life, namely how we humans are good when we appear to be the complete opposite. But what it means is that now that our goodness has been biologically established we no longer have to continue to try and prove ourselves, which was the source of all our selfish, egocentric behaviour, and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living — and this is the rapidly transforming and healing effect of being able to understand the human condition. As a means of helping in your journey, we recommend visiting our homepage — HumanCondition.com — as it provides a wonderful road map to progress with all our key material made freely available and shows how you can register for free, live, interactive presentations with Jeremy Griffith about this immensely relieving understanding. Also our Facebook Group provides a wonderful platform for participating in, or just observing, interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science.

Hi Christina, yes, it is extraordinary how, with humanity’s current psychologically upset state defended, we can now admit our species’ innocent past, which means we can admit that indigenous people are closer to that time of innocence, and so are more cooperative, loving and in touch with the natural world than other races. However, all humans are now part of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, and are therefore nowhere near as innocent as humans were some 2 million years ago when the battle of the human condition first emerged. Also, most significantly, despite the differing levels of upset due to everyone’s different encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, we can now understand that all humans are equally good. You might like to read our FAQ 9.1 about how this puts an end to racism, and for a testimonial on the power of this knowledge to end racism, we recommend the presentations from Franklin Mukakanga and Refentse Molosiwa in Video/Freedom Essay 8.

Thank you for your interest, Tom. However, we did want to clarify our position that Darwin’s idea of natural selection is a foundational principal of science and a critically important breakthrough, not only because it allowed us to understand how the great variety of life on Earth emerged, but because it finally enabled us to explain the human condition. After we could understand the process of natural selection we were finally in a position to explain that our instincts were only orientations to and not understandings of the world around us, which, as has now been revealed, is the key to explaining the human condition. (As is explained in Freedom Essay 25, natural selection is actually an ‘integrative’ process, not a selfish one, however it does have a limitation, which is that the genetic process is normally unable to develop unconditional selflessness between sexually reproducing individuals. Now that the human condition has been explained, and our divisive behaviour defended, we can now admit that that is the wider context within which natural selection operates. Significantly, in the first edition of The Origin of Species Darwin left it undecided as to whether those individuals that reproduced more could be viewed as winners, as being ‘fitter’. However it is evidenced, in later editions Darwin’s associates, Herbert Spencer and Alfred Russel Wallace, persuaded him to substitute the term ‘natural selection’ with the term ‘survival of the fittest’ (Letter from Wallace to Darwin, 2 Jul. 1866; The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, Vol.14, p.227 of 706), see Jeremy Griffith’s book FREEDOM (chapter 2:9, paragraph 195).)

I have listened to this interview, I have read some of the information. This has now come across my path again. I’m going to now read his book. I’m listening to the knock on my door again in-regards to freedom. I will dedicate the time.

We certainly respect people’s religious views however we felt it important to mention that Jeremy Griffith’s work doesn’t ‘leave God out of the picture’. It simply brings biological understanding to that pre-scientific concept. In fact Jeremy considers the Bible to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing all the truth about human life albeit from a pre-science view. The real issue is if people prefer a more literal fundamentalist interpretation of scripture rather than our more biological, science-based interpretation. For those interested in exploring this further we suggest FAQ 6.2 ‘What is God’; and FAQ 6.3 ‘Does this undermine religion/God.

I found the interview I was listening to very exciting. It is an answer to most of my questions about why we humans are all the same.

Hi Maria, thank you for persevering; it is wonderful that the explanation resonated with you. We encourage you to pursue your interest by visiting the top of our homepage where you will find a guide to progress with all our key material made freely available. We also wanted to clarify that the human condition is the study of humans’ capacity for acts of both so-called ‘good‘ and ’evil’. It’s the realm of inquiry where science and religion overlap, so in explaining the human condition religion is demystified and explained by bringing biological understanding to pre-scientific concepts. For instance, Jeremy Griffith explains in this interview that Adam and Eve is a pre-scientific metaphor for the emergence of consciousness and its clash with our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts, resulting in humans becoming psychologically upset or ‘sinful’ or ‘evil’. Jeremy’s work represents a reconciliation of science and religion, see FAQ 1.15 ‘If this is a biological explanation why are there religious references?’.

For those interested, you can read or watch Jeremy Griffith’s presentation The Great Guilt that causes the Deaf Effect, which provides astonishing clarification of why lifting the great burden of guilt from the human race causes most people to initially experience a ‘Deaf Effect’ to what’s being presented, here.

Thanks a lot for sharing all your knowledge and giving solution for a better human condition. Certainly a few générations to make it up! You are right, only Science can take care of this ‘’severe condition‘’ and have explanations that can be accepted by most of the population. A great but inévitable challenge. It is incredible the work that you have done. Long and beautiful life to you Jérémy Best regards Gilles

There is a lot to digest here Trish, but we suggest that if you do, you will find that what is presented does not run counter to anything you have said. What it does do, is explain the source of our instinctive expectation of receiving love (see FAQ 5.2 How did we humans acquire our all-loving, unconditionally selfless moral conscience?), and also explain the source origin of the selfishness and preoccupation that has prevented adults from being able to nurture to the extent that children expect (see Part 1 of THE Interview). What’s more, you will find in Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM a lot written about the effect on children on not receiving unconditional love that we instinctively expect (see chapter 8:16C).

Yes, the etymology of the word ‘schizophrenia’ is schiz meaning ‘split’ or ‘broken’, and phrenos meaning ‘soul or heart’, and we can now understand that our loving and cooperative instinctive self is what we have described as our ‘soul’, so the instinct vs intellect clash could be described as a form of ‘schizophrenia’.

There is a lot to digest here Laura, so we advise everyone to take their time and advance slowly, which is what you are doing, which is wonderful. One thing we would point out is that we can now understand that our core instinctive orientation is to be loving and cooperative (see more on this in Freedom Essay 21). However, unable to defend our non-loving, divisive behaviour, admitting our core instinctive orientation was to be loving and cooperative left us unbearably condemned, and so we employed the false excuse that we have savage instincts like other animals. Which means that the real reason that discussion of the human condition makes people uneasy is not our “primal reptilian brain”, but our historic fear of the issue of the human condition – the insufferable, unbearably depressing guilt and shame for having destroyed the magic world of our soul means we are terrified of opening the door on the subject at all. That is until, as you so rightly point out, “Jeremy’s words... bring them that safety and belonging when it sinks in.” You might be interested in our FAQ 1.1 ‘What exactly is the human condition? / And why have humans been so fearful of it? / And why do most people suffer from a ‘Deaf Effect’ when they try to read or listen to discussion of the human condition? / And why can analysis of the human condition cause an extremely angry response?’

Hi Shu, we suggest now we can understand the human condition, we can see that everyone has suffered from it, and all our institutions, including our governments, have been a manifestation of our insecure, psychologically upset condition. You may find these FAQs helpful, FAQ 1.6 ‘Why does understanding solve everything’ and FAQ 1.40 ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power?’

Hi David, all of Jeremy Griffith’s key books, including Our Meaning, THE Interview and FREEDOM, are available here on our homepage. Just click ‘Get your copy for FREE!’ to see all the formats available, which in the case of Our Meaning is either online or as a PDF. Please note, Our Meaning is only being made available as each section is written, so the book is not yet complete.

Yes, but for those new to this, it is worth pointing out that what is so significant about Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that we can now understand why we haven’t been loving, and it is through this redeeming explanation for why we have been selfish and divisive that that behaviour can now come to an end, and humanity can return to a loving state. In other words, it was only through finding the good reason that we had to defy our cooperative and loving instincts that all our defensive, ‘bad’ behaviours (our anger, egocentricity and alienation) could be made redundant. That is what is so unique and amazing about Jeremy’s explanation of the human condition.

Hi Helen, our homepage — HumanCondition.com — provides a wonderful road map to progress with all our key material made freely available and you can register for free, live, interactive presentations with Jeremy Griffith about this immensely relieving understanding. Also our Facebook Group provides a wonderful platform for participating in, or just observing, interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science.

Yes curious.

    It does take some time to get your head around the paradox of the human condition, Belinda, and in particular, how it applies to politics, but with explanation of the human condition we can at last understand the real merits and liabilities of both the left and right wing. Jeremy Griffith’s work certainly doesn’t excuse the right-wing for its corrupting behaviour, nor unfairly focus on the failing of the left, which is that its insistence on ideal behaviour had the effect of oppressing the search for knowledge, but rather brings a profound understanding to both sides which ultimately will bring an end to the whole ugly business of politics.     We recommend Jeremy Griffith’s book, Death by Dogma, which is freely available here on our homepage. In it Jeremy emphasises that while it is easy to identify with the ideal of everyone being cooperative and loving, the whole objective of the human journey was to find understanding of why humans have not been cooperative and loving and instead so divisively competitive and aggressive. That is the great riddle of the human condition that had to be explained. Now at last we can understand why we humans have been competitive, aggressive and selfish, and, most wonderfully of all, by revealing that reason, the need for that divisive behaviour is ended. Which brings us to the final paradox of the human condition: through the right wing upholding the selfishness needed to persevere with the search for knowledge, we all now become left-wing. This is fully explained in our FAQs on politics. We appreciate your interest Belinda and hope you find these links helpful.