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That’s wonderful to hear Jean! Another great way to learn about the human condition is on our Facebook Group where all the latest cutting edge discussions about this biological explanation of the human condition are taking place and it’s a wonderful place to join in all the excitement and wonder about this new paradigm of understanding ourselves! Click here to join.

Thank you for your response Cheri which we greatly appreciate as the human condition has been an off-limits subject that’s for sure. This is because without the defence of our fundamental goodness, it has been an unbearably confronting subject that we sensibly had to “have little time for” and get on with life until it was explained. As Jeremy Griffith explains in Part 2 of this interview, “we’ve had to live in denial of our corrupted, psychologically upset condition while we couldn’t explain it”, which required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents here. We recommend re-watching THE Interview and then reading and/or watching Jeremy Griffith’s presentation, The Great Guilt, which outlines more comprehensively the definition of our human condition, and why engagement with the subject can be initially hard to grasp. Both these presentations are available here on our homepage.

    Thank you for your thoughts Judith. As THE Interview explains, despite many thinkers throughout history having recognised the human condition being caused by a clash between our instincts and intellect, what was missing from the analysis of all these thinkers was the ability to explain WHY this conflict occurred. As Jeremy Griffith says in Part 2 of this interview “while all contemporary thinkers have had the benefit of science having revealed the difference between the gene-based and nerve-based learning systems, and have therefore had the means to truthfully explain the human condition, those who did recognise the basic instinct vs intellect elements didn’t take their thinking far enough to actually explain the human condition.” This what is unique about Jeremy’s synthesis. He actually solves the dilemma of human condition of ‘why, when our instincts are to be loving and selfless, are we so competitive and selfish?’ by clarifying the difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, which is that the gene-based learning system (instincts) can orientate a species, but that the nerve-based learning system (intellect) is insightful, and that is the great breakthrough his work represents. This is fully explained in our FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this idea original or new? / How does biologist Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition differ from other theories that recognise these elements?’ Also this work is not based on “false concepts going nowhere”. Jeremy’s biological treatise has attracted the support of eminent scientists and thinkers around the world, see FAQ 1.7. For instance psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen endorses THE Interview as “the most important interview of all time” and professor of psychology Scott Churchill states “Nothing Dr. Prosen has said about the immense importance of this book is an exaggeration. This is the book all humans need to read for our collective wellbeing.”     In terms of offering a “method” of transformation Part 4 titled ‘How does the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible actually occur?’, presents the answer. It explains that it will take a number of generations for the upset within us to be completely healed but it also stresses importantly we can be immediately free of its effects. Certainly there is habituation to overcome and humans do find change difficult but at last we can understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because we have the first principle science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it. So instead of being focused on power, fame, fortune and glory, all our energies will be freed to truly work together on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering and save our world. How this healing is immediately open to us all is summarised in FAQ 1.5 and FAQ 1.40 addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world?’.

There have been many other thinkers throughout history who, like biologist Jeremy Griffith, have recognised that our divisive, competitive and aggressive human condition, our deviation from our “normative behavior”, is a product of a battle between our instincts and intellect. However, what was missing from the analysis of all these other thinkers, including psychologists, was the ability to explain WHY this conflict occurred. Jeremy’s synthesis actually answers this question by clarifying the difference between the way the intellect and instincts work. That is the great breakthrough his work represents and what is unique about his work. You may find FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this idea original or new? / How does this instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition differ from other theories that recognise these elements?’ of interest.

Thank you for your question Advocate Nimain. The fundamental explanation is very simple so you don’t have to be familiar with scientific terms to understand it. As Craig Conway observes in this interview, the central argument is extraordinarily simple but is “so far-reaching in its ramifications” there is a lot absorb and digest which takes a little time and application. So we recommend you read FAQ 1.3 for a brief summary and then watch THE Interview (at the top of our homepage) and from there continue watching our Main Video series that follows THE Interview. Also, please feel free get in contact with us at [email protected] with any thoughts or questions you may have along the way!

Thank you for your feedback Ginny and we are pleased to learn you found THE Interview interesting. While great care has been taken to present the explanation as quickly and simply as possible there is a lot to absorb so Jeremy Griffith has included as many examples, quotations and references as possible to evidence his arguments in this summary presentation. We do provide a transcript of THE Interview here on our website and this format may be helpful as you can access the quotes and links to references more easily.

Hi Sherry, as THE Interview explains, the human condition is the most fearful of subjects because it’s the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad and our fear of this interface can make it hard to understand all that is explained in one viewing. Our FAQ 1.3 presents a very brief summary of the key ‘instinct vs intellect’ concept. Essentially, when we humans developed a conscious mind some 2 million years ago, a battle unavoidably developed between it and our already established instincts. The result of this conflict between our instinct and intellect was that we became psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric – the upset state we refer to as the human condition. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition. As Craig Conway observes in this interview, while this fundamental ‘genes vs nerves’ explanation is extraordinarily simple, it is ‘so far-reaching in its ramifications’ that there is much to explain. When this is taken into account, it can be appreciated that the 1 hour interview is a very, very concise presentation. We also recommend reading FAQ 1.16 ‘What can’t I understand this?’

Life under the duress of the human condition has certainly been difficult and now at last we can now understand humans’ psychological upset was the price humans had to pay for searching for knowledge and that the human story presents the greatest, most heroic story ever told. We can biologically explain our fundamental goodness as humans and therefore bring great compassion and kindness to ourselves and each other and, most significantly, we don’t have to overly confront the upset within us — see FAQ 1.4.

Thank you for your comment Lynne and it is wonderful Jeremy’s work has resonated deeply with you. Empowering our spirituality which ‘The Joseph Communication’ focuses on does provide some relief and comfort but ultimately our thinking mind needed understanding—specifically, scientific understanding of why when the ideals are to be loving and selfless are we so competitive and selfish? Why have we lost our spirituality or the light within? This is what Jeremy Griffith’s treatise does and why it is heralded as the breakthrough that can save the world. We recommend FAQ 6.5, which explains the difference between Jeremy’s explanation and pseudo-idealism or new age spirituality.

It certainly does Walt and we are working tirelessly to make it happen so come and join us because once this information tips into mainstream awareness through enough people developing a deep appreciation and desire to support it, the selfless love and energy that will generate will solve our problems very quickly because instead of being preoccupied with seeking seeking power, fame, fortune etc, all our energies will be freed to truly work together and focus on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering in all the corners of the world. You might be interested in reading FAQ 1.40 ‘Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world?’ and FAQ 1.20 ‘How can I help the WTM?’

Absolutely Walt the world is fast reaching its 11th hour, but this understanding will turn things around incredibly quickly because it explains and solves the underlying cause of all our selfishness, anger and egocentricity. We suggest reading our FAQ 1.40 which addresses the questions ‘Aren’t the problems of the world too overwhelming to ever be fixed? / Isn’t it too late to save the world?’.

Hi Maran, as author Richard Heinberg says (quoted in Part 2 of THE Interview): ‘Every religion begins with the recognition that human consciousness has been separated from the divine Source, that a former sense of oneness… has been lost… everywhere in religion and myth there is an acknowledgment that we have departed from an original… innocence and can return to it only through the resolution of some profound inner discord’. It is this resolution of the source of the separation and discord that Jeremy Griffith’s instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition provides and why it is praised as such a great breakthrough by thought leaders and the general public around the world which you can see here on our homepage.

Hi Kitty, THE Interview and Jeremy Griffith’s main book FREEDOM are free and immediately available to read online or download HERE on our homepage with no email registration required. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. The work of the WTM is a scientific pursuit and was not created for profit, so all of our information and materials (including books, videos and podcasts) are provided absolutely free of charge.

Good on you, Tamara! To learn more, the following are our recommended next steps: • Subscribe to our free Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. • Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition. Totally free, no registration required. • Read the Key Books by Jeremy Griffith. Totally free to download, no registration required. • Join and participate in our Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. • Help this critical new science by sharing it!

This is not a money making venture. The work of the World Transformation Movement is a scientific pursuit and was not created for profit, so all of our information and materials (including books, videos and podcasts) are provided absolutely free of charge on our website (no email required) – see our FAQs about the WTM, in particular FAQ 3.2 ‘How is the WTM funded? Jeremy Griffith’s fully accountable, first-principle-based biological understanding of the human condition has also received outstanding commendations from leading thinkers and scientists, which people can read on our homepage here.

Take your time with this Joseph, because we suggest that the more you digest Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation, the more you will realise how accountable it is in getting to the source of all humanity’s psychological upset, and from there how it makes possible the wonderful and reconciled world we have all dreamed of. To help your ongoing digestion, you’ll see at the top of our homepage — HumanCondition.com — the recommended steps after watching THE Interview. This includes registering for our free, live events with Jeremy and others and joining our popular Facebook Group.

There is a lot to digest here Stanislaw, so we recommend you take your time. In THE Interview, it is explained that the idea that we have ‘savage instincts’, an idea that most people adhere to and which is widely taught, is not right – the truth is that our instinctive legacy is loving, cooperative and compassionate (see more on this in Freedom Essay 21). However, unable to defend our non-loving, divisive behaviour, admitting our core instinctive orientation was to be loving and cooperative left us unbearably condemned, and so we employed the false excuse that we have savage instincts like other animals. As Jeremy Griffith explains our competitive and aggressive behaviour (including our sexual thoughts and behaviour - see Freedom Essay 27) is due to us having a conscious-mind-based, psychologically troubled condition, which is actually good news, because psychoses can be healed through understanding, which is what this is.

Hi Leon. Thanks for your comment. You might be interested in our response to Laura below, and would just reiterate here what we said to her about this redeeming understanding showing that all humans are equally good: What is so exciting is that this breakthrough instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition establishes the equality of all humans and brings compassionate and thus safe understanding to ALL of human behaviour — including why the horror of racism has existed under the duress of the human condition and, most importantly, finally brings it to an end, see FAQ 9.1 ‘How do you explain racism?’. For a testimonial on the power of this information to end racism, we recommend watching/reading the presentation from Franklin Mukakanga, of Zambia, in Video/​Freedom Essay 8.

We appreciate your reticence that this understanding could possibly bring an end, a cure, to human greed and competitiveness, and certainly there is habituation to overcome and humans do find change very difficult, but at last we can understand that our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because we have the first principle science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it. So instead of being focused on power, fame, fortune and glory, all our energies will be freed to truly work together on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering and save our world. How this healing is immediately open to us all is also summarised in FAQ 1.5. We also strongly recommend reading FAQ 1.40 which specifically addresses your question of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’. It explains that “Even those who were most committed to defensively seeking validation through gaining power and material goods, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real biological explanation of the human condition that proves our worth at the most fundamental level.”

    Yes, the central tenet of Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that humans have a cooperative, loving instinctive heritage, not a brutish, savage and aggressive one, and that the source of our aggression is a psychosis that has been compounding ever since the instinct and intellect clashed some 2 million years ago. It follows then that the further back in history we go, the less psychologically upset a race of people will be, and so the more nurturing, cooperative and loving they will be – and we can see evidence of this in existing indigenous races of people, such as the First Nations peoples, as you have identified. However, it needs to pointed out that even so-called ‘primitive’ races are still members of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, so they are still psychologically upset angry egocentric and alienated.     What is so exciting is that this breakthrough instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition establishes the equality of all humans and brings compassionate and thus safe understanding to ALL of human behaviour — including why the horror of racism has existed under the duress of the human condition and, most importantly, finally brings it to an end, see FAQ 9.1 ‘How do you explain racism?’. For a testimonial on the power of this information to end racism, we recommend watching/reading the presentation from Franklin Mukakanga, of Zambia, in Video/​Freedom Essay 8.

I am actually coming back to watch this a second time. I’ve been working on doing everything I know how to change my life for the better since I was 15. 40 years to be more exact. I can’t say that I have arrived to the life I always wanted but not all is lost for me. But the way so many people seem to be more lost than I am at times makes me very frustrated. Just to say it simple. I welcome the new information because I’m always looking to understand better because I know understanding makes a difference. I actually need to listen again before I can share more and better insight I think because I have to process more what this means to me. Right now I only remember that what was talked about does answer many questions and for me that is success. So thank you.

I am always amazed at how much information is packed in this interview. Understanding is a key element towards transformation Says Jeremy Griffith, Biologist and author of many books, essays to assist us on our journey.

Thanks for your question Asseres and that’s exactly what THE interview explains and what our FAQ 1.3 provides a very brief summary of. Essentially, when we humans developed a conscious mind some 2 million years ago, a battle unavoidably developed between it and our already established instincts. The result of this conflict between our instinct and intellect was that we became psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric – the upset state we refer to as the human condition. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition. As Craig Conway observes in this interview, while this fundamental ‘genes vs nerves’ explanation is extraordinarily simple, it is ‘so far-reaching in its ramifications’ that there is much to explain. When this is taken into account, it can be appreciated that this 1 hour interview is a very, very concise presentation so we encourage you to explore it.

    Yes we certainly need a new paradigm of thinking and that is what this critical new science provides and the effect of “this new level of understanding” is life-transforming! We do not need treatment of our genes because the human condition is not genetic. In Part 1 of THE Interview Jeremy Griffith explains all humans are born with an instinctive self or soul that is perfectly aligned to a cooperative and selfless way of living and that humans’ upset (angry, egocentric and alienated) behaviour is not a product of savage animal instincts within us, but the result of a universal psychosis caused by the unavoidable clash between our instinct and intellect. And, most significantly, as Part 4 explains a psychosis can be healed with understanding, so our psychologically upset human nature is fixable or changeable—not unchangeable.     It does take a little time to fully absorb the significance of finally being able to understand the human condition is the only “treatment” needed for us to be able to “change the corrupted condition that we find ourselves” in. For instance, we now have the ability, for the first time, to understand every aspect of human behaviour and our behaviour will change naturally as a result. At last we can understand we have been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because at last we have the first principle-based science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it. This is the rapidly transforming practical effect of being able to understand the human condition which is fully explained and illustrated on our Transformation page. Also FAQs 1.4 to 1.6 explain the far-reaching application of this explanation and Freedom Essay 15 is all about ‘How understanding the human condition can immediately transform your and every other human’s life and save the world’.

Thanks for your feedback Michael. While various thinkers throughout history have recognised that our divisive, competitive and aggressive human condition is a product of a clash between our instincts and intellect, solving it required finding the clarifying explanation of the nature of that conflict, because only that could bring reconciling and transforming peace to our conflicted and divided selves, which is what biologist Jeremy Griffith has done, and what is unique about his work – see our FAQ 1.13.

Thank you for your forthright comment Osei but as Jacob comments above ultimately this explanation is inspirational and uplifting of our whole being! Yes, having the human condition explained does expose the truth about our upset condition, but importantly, it doesn’t condemn us, rather it compassionately explain we are ‘good’ and not ‘bad’ for taking on the corrupting search for knowledge. Indeed, the explanation of the human condition is all redeeming, reconciling and rehabilitating! Along with re-watching THE Interview, we recommend you read Freedom Essay 15, which explains the Transformed State, which is the fabulous way we deal with the personal transparency and confronting nature of the human condition. As Jeremy writes in that Essay, “You and every other human can, as it were, put the issue of all your upsets/corruptions in a ‘suitcase’, attach a label to it saying ‘Everything in here is now explained and defended’, and simply leave that suitcase behind at the entrance to what we in the World Transformation Movement (WTM) call the Sunshine Highway, and set out unencumbered by all those upset behaviours into a new world that is effectively free of the human condition.” So the human condition is no longer an unbearably depressing subject as we can now bring great compassion and kindness to ourselves and others and significantly we don’t have to overly confront the upset within us. Also we recommend FAQ 1.39 ‘How are we supposed to cope with all the heretical truths brought to light by the explanation of the human condition?’

Yes Lisa we have been looking for so long because we have intuitively known that if we can solve the human condition we can stop the suffering and destruction it has caused and that’s exactly what Jeremy Griffith’s work does! Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why we are fundamentally good—answer the age-old question of why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents here. In summary, the eternal battle for humans has been to validate ourselves, establish once and for all that we are fundamentally good and not bad, and it’s that deepest and most important of all battles that has finally been won. Solving the human condition solves all the confusion, frustration and suffering in human life at its source, see FAQ 1.5 ‘Why is this important to my life’.

Thanks Yiannis. While Julian Jaynes and other thinkers have identified the elements of instinct and intellect involved in creating the human condition, none of them provide the great breakthrough clarifying explanation of the nature of the conflict between them, and without that explanation the conflict could not be resolved. This is explained in our FAQ 1.46 ‘What about Julian Jaynes’s theory of the Bicameral Mind?’ (this includes references to where Jeremy Griffith further discusses Jaynes’s theory) and also see FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this idea original or new?’

Thanks Dilen for your enthusiastic response. Despite our competitive and selfish “savage” behaviour, we have always intuitively believed we were fundamentally good, but we have never been able to explain this contradictory, conflicted condition and this is the great breakthrough Jeremy Griffith’s work presents. As THE Interview explains all humans are born with all-loving moral instincts but now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition caused by the conscious mind’s necessary search for knowledge. In Part 3 especially Jeremy evidences this key biological distinction that humans suffer from the conscious-mind-based, psychologically troubled human condition, not the genetic-opportunism-based, animal condition. And, most importantly, as Part 4 explains a psychosis can be healed with understanding, so our psychologically upset human nature is fixable or changeable—not unchangeable, which is what it would essentially be if our competitive and aggressive nature was instinctive; if it was something that is in our genes and we were born with. That is the power of this understanding — it brings a complete and permanent end to our insecurity-driven selfish behaviour, completely transforming all humans into secure and happy beings, which is further explained and illustrated on our Transformation page!

Hi Steve, great to learn of your interest! THE Interview and Jeremy Griffith’s main book FREEDOM are free and immediately available to read online or download HERE on our homepage with no email registration required! The work of the WTM is a scientific pursuit and was not created for profit, so all of our information and materials (including books, videos and podcasts) are provided absolutely free of charge. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. Otherwise, if you particularly want a hard copy, you can purchase them from Amazon or other good bookstores.

Thanks for your comment Danielin. We are respectful of everyone’s beliefs, but do suggest that while religions contained extraordinary truth about human life, it was all from a pre-scientific view, and that ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that clarifying difference means we can now understand that we had to defy our instincts, which is why this great breakthrough is described as ‘redeeming’. It follows that by finding the good reason we had to defy our instincts, we can reconcile ourselves with them, because all our defensive behaviours (our anger, egocentricity and alienation) are now redundant. We no longer need them because we have the real defense for why we had to defy our instincts. We recommend reading FAQ 6.3 ‘Does this undermine religion?’ where it is explained that, “The great founding prophets of religion actually looked forward to the arrival of the reconciling understanding of the human condition—which means supporters of religion shouldn’t see Jeremy’s scientific demystification of religious teachings as blasphemy, but as religious fulfillment!”

We hope you write a song about it Josh - it certainly deserves many songs! Please send anything in, we would love to add it to the 'Tribute Songs' page that we have started.

THE Interview explains our soul or instinctive self is perfectly aligned to a cooperative and selfless way of living so that is innate in all humans but the critical question is why did we leave and corrupt that original loving state? Despite our competitive and selfish behaviour, we have always intuitively believed we were fundamentally good, but we have never been able to explain this contradictory, conflicted condition. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents here and his book FREEDOM. That is the great breakthrough presented here; see FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ as it explains the unique significance of Jeremy’s work.

THE Interview explains all humans are born with loving moral instincts but we all now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition and that ‘rulers’ are just a manifestation of what we all suffer from. We suggest FAQ 1.40 ‘How can you hope to transform the world? / Won’t the greedy and power hungry simply ignore this?’ Fundamentally, having found the good reason that we had to defy our instincts means all our defensive, ‘bad’ behaviours (our anger, egocentricity and alienation) are now redundant. This is the essence of the transformation that this breakthrough makes available, and explains why it is available to all humans, no matter what their circumstances.

Thanks for the query Mack. As we touch on in our response to Ed Mason below, the development of the nurturing based love-indoctrination process requires ‘ideal nursery conditions’. As Jeremy explains in chapter 5:4 of his definitive book FREEDOM: “The successful nurturing of infants therefore required ample food, comfortable conditions and security from external threats over an extended period.” So what we find with bonobos, is that they simply do not have many predators. Of course there are snakes and leopards to some extent, but not to the extent that the love-indoctrination process was imperilled. It is clear, and the evidence is included in chapter 5 of FREEDOM, that our distant ape ancestors developed in a similar environment. Importantly, the further a species advances along the love-indoctrination process, the more selfless it becomes, and so threats would be dealt with selflessly i.e. members of the group would protect the group by putting the groups welfare above that of themselves.

Hi Ed. As Jeremy Griffith explains in THE Interview, genuinely cooperative, unconditionally selfless genetic traits are self-eliminating, and therefore cannot normally develop in animals i.e. they need to compete (or “kill and eat”) in order to survive — which means animals are not normally able to cooperate beyond situations of reciprocity or kin selection. However, as Jeremy explains in Part 3 of THE Interview, the selfish process of natural selection was able to create loving selflessness in our forebears through nurturing. Freedom Essay 21 and Chapter 5 of FREEDOM explain this ‘love-indoctrination’ process, as Jeremy has termed it, more fully, and in particular, it is explained in chapter 5.4 that love indoctrination required ideal nursery condition, and “This entailed uninterrupted access to food, shelter and territory, for if any element was compromised, or other difficulties and threats from predators excessive, then we can assume there would have been a strong inclination to revert to more selfish and competitive behaviour. The successful nurturing of infants therefore required ample food, comfortable conditions and security from external threats over an extended period.”

It’s great you want to read Jeremy Griffith’s book FREEDOM which is free on our homepage here to read online or download. (You can also download the free Kindle version from Amazon, otherwise you can purchase hard copies from Amazon or other good bookstores.) We also recommend registering to be notified of our free, live, interactive presentations with Jeremy Griffith and others about this immensely relieving understanding and joining our Facebook Group where there is much fascinating discussion taking place.

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