Since THE Interview between Craig Conway and Jeremy Griffith first aired in 2020, tens of thousands of viewers have commented on it on HumanCondition.com — this is an archive of all those comments, including helpful responses from our team.
This is page 25 of 180 (pages run from the oldest comments to the latest).
The Comments below were made between February 9, 2022 and February 21, 2022.
Rick B.
Thank you Jeremy & Craig! This info confirms something I said to a friend about 25 years ago! “Everyone on the planet loves someone! If everyone took a hand of someone they love, we would all be connected!” She said, “wow, that is awesome! Yeah!” I believe I just felt what she did that day! Thank you for sharing this amazing work!
Higgins Shar
I want to see our world restored
Susie
Makes total sense. Unbelievable how easy it is to understand. I have been enlightened.
Concepcion Serna
I have never listened about the human condition rehabilitation. It helps me to understand more about the human being.
I am very interesting to learn the Psychological and Biological evaluation of human race.
Thank you very much for your important contribution to this issue.
Martin Beale
After 62 years- & now having finally & suddenly found the beginning of The Answer to the The Question of “What Is The Meaning Of Man?”- I’m- I know you understand- struggling to sum up the rest of my euphoric thoughts.
Thank you! Best wishes, Martin Beale 😊❤️
Paulette Isaacs
Isn’t competitive and aggressive behavior more dominate in Caucasian people than any other race. Considering how all European societies went around this world Colonizing it.
WTM Admin
As THE Interview explains all humans are born with all-loving moral instincts but now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition caused by the conscious mind’s necessary search for knowledge. So we can at last understand WHY as a species we have become psychologically upset—so competitive and aggressive as to want to dominate and control others. We can also explain that all ‘races’ (ethnic groups) fall somewhere on the spectrum of either being more sheltered from humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, or more exposed to it, and so are either more innocent or more psychologically upset. We can see that at this point of time Caucasians fall somewhere in the middle, with more psychologically embattled races having ‘peaked’ earlier, and less psychologically embattled races yet to peak (see chapter 8:16E of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM), however, the truth is that all humans are now part of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, and are therefore nowhere near as innocent as humans were some 2 million years ago when the battle of the human condition first emerged. So the more upset have been overthrowing the less upset since the human condition emerged. However, what is most important is that despite the differing levels of upset due to everyone’s different encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, we are all equally good. Now we can understand the human condition we can see that no person or race is superior or inferior. This desperately needed reconciling understanding of the relationship between races is further explained in Freedom Essay 28 and for a testimonial on the power of this information to end racism, we recommend watching/reading the presentation from Franklin Mukakanga, of Zambia, in Video/Freedom Essay 8.
andree pol
het licht begint te dagen.; uit het donker naar het Licht. de hele mensheid ontwaakt! [The light begins to dawn; from the darkness into the light. The whole of mankind awakens! (translated from Dutch)]
Juli Spear
This is so fascinating.My question is how can we go about getting the main stream scientific community to recognize these true finding?What about the government and they evil ways?
WTM Admin
As with any new scientific breakthrough in history it will take time to gain mainstream acceptance, and from there break through the bastions of power in the world. However, with support from those who appreciate this understanding, the truth is that this redeeming, uplifting and healing explanation of the human condition is SO liberating and SO exciting that it won’t be long be everyone realises that it is completely pointless to keep trying to compensate for their insecurity through the pursuit of power and glory. You might be interested in FAQ 1.40, which addresses the questions of ‘Aren’t the problems of the world too overwhelming to ever be fixed? / Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’. It explains that “Even those who were most committed to defensively seeking validation through gaining power and material goods, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real biological explanation of the human condition that proves our worth at the most fundamental level.”
Also being able to understand the human condition, we can now see that everyone has suffered from it, and all our institutions, including governments, have been a manifestation of our insecure, psychologically upset condition. Only solving the human condition can stop the disintegration of society and the destruction of our world that is happening everywhere we look, see FAQ 1.6.
Juanita
I would like to know more thank you
WTM Admin
It’s wonderful you are eager to learn more Janita! If you go to the top of our homepage—HumanCondition.com—it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes registering for our free, live events with Jeremy Griffith and others and joining our popular Facebook Group. It is also worth mentioning that all Jeremy Griffith’s books are freely available on the website.
Carolyn Collings
Thank you for your generous gift to humanity.
Lennie
Insight and thinking about a future for all of us
Alexander Banks
It is a great way to heal our Human condition and bring good and co-operational into the human experience for the future
Tom Lapins
It was quite an interesting and brilliant conversation. I have made this very same journey. My concern and disagreement is that he connects dots that do not connect. His simplicity of both earthly and cosmic evolution/Transformation leaves out the intellectual discussion of a far more complex and vast world beyond the “Human Condition” which impacts and steers who we are, who we became, and our connection to and from and before the big bang.
The bonoboos were a beautiful example but why they evolved as they did is the beauty and design of natural selection. They evolved in a particular niche that brought forth their experiences and example per natural selection.
Good and evil are human concepts that should not be inflicted on our earthly and cosmic trajectory. The “Fall” is not simply humans gaining knowledge. It is our Transformation into self-consciousness from simple consciousness (we are not the only species with self-conscious). It has served us well until these last 250 human years. Now this golden apple is about to destroy us unless we do as our hundreds of wise sages have attempted to pass on to us: Rise from self-consciousness into a Higher Consciousness and that will Awaken us into a higher frequency and dimension. There is an even higher consciousness called Cosmic (Christ) Consciousness. This is the level of consciousness Jesus lived in, not as the son of God; but as a higher consciousness of the wise and radical Sage.
Read the “Gospel of Thomas” found in 1945 in Nag Hammadi, Egypt. No narrative or miracles bullshit. But the best wisdom sayings I have ever read. The translation by Martin Myer my favorite.
All Best,
Tom Lapins
WTM Admin
You might be interested in chapter 4 of Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM, in which he explains how through the Negative-Entropy-driven integrative process, a chaotic cosmos continues to organise itself into stars, planets and galaxies, and that it is this integration or development of order of matter on Earth that is the biological process that drives our development (summarised in FAQ 5.3). This is what Teilhard de Chardin was referring to when he wrote in The Phenomenon of Man that, “I can see a direction and a line of progress for life, a line and a direction which are in fact so well marked that I am convinced their reality will be universally admitted by the science of tomorrow”. In fact, Jeremy explains in his books that indeed the word ‘development’ will come to replace the word ‘evolution’ in biology because evolution can be, and has been, misrepresented as meaning change is undirected, meaningless and random.
We also recommend chapter 5 of FREEDOM, in which Jeremy explains how the ecological niche in which bonobos have found themselves is similar to that which our ancestors found themselves in, which is why they have both been able to develop the nurturing based love-indoctrination process, which in due course led to the liberation of consciousness (see chapter 7 of FREEDOM).
Ultimately Tom, we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. It establishes our worth or goodness as a species and the whole concept of good and bad disappears from our conceptualisation of ourselves. What Jeremy is putting forward is that for there to be a fundamental change in our human situation we had to understand the human condition – humans’ capacity for good and evil – from a biological perspective.
Malcolm Cutts
I found this explanation of the human condition to be really fascinating and I will introduce people within my family and friends to get acquainted with it.
Heiko kretzschmann
Interesting anything proven new to exist.
WTM Admin
Hi Heiko, we recommend reading FAQ 1.13 “Is this idea original or new? / How does biologist Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition differ from other theories that recognise these elements?”, as it explains the unique significance of Jeremy’s work.
Leeson Train
With difficulties in my life, and researching psychology, coming across this interview has made a huge difference. Thank you for such an amazing opportunity by sharing
Shirley
Very much on point and very much needed time wise.
Benadie Karen
Eye opener...thankyou
Joe Lake
Thank you for the insight and the search.
Sylvia Wiwsoniski
That’s exactly what happen when you fool around with mother nature ,I believe that the way we lost our paradise religion is talking about the Adam and Eve.great sin
Jane &Robin Mckann
Thank you for this information, not a moment too soon. And hopefully not to late! The healing of the riff between the conscious mind and the instinctual mind is the solution.
Margaret
My being is at PEACE now. Thank you🙏💞
Jeanie
Very profound , and interesting. Let’s come together as the human race, that’s how we were created to live !
Jeanie
The fact that we all do have a conscience makes total sense to the human condition!
WTM Admin
Yes, it does make total sense! As Jeremy Griffith explains in THE Interveiw, “As Charles Darwin said, ‘The moral sense…affords the best and highest distinction between man and the lower animals’ (The Descent of Man, 1871, ch.4). Of course, to have acquired these cooperative, selfless and loving moral instincts our distant ape ancestors must have lived cooperatively, selflessly and lovingly, otherwise how else could we have acquired them? Our ape ancestors can’t have been brutal, club-wielding, competitive and aggressive savages as we have been taught, rather they must have lived in a Garden of Eden-like state of cooperative, selfless and loving innocent gentleness.” And so if we do have these loving and cooperative instincts (the expression of which is our conscience), then it means that the source of our aggressive and selfish behaviour cannot be ‘savage instincts’ as we have been taught. We now know that our destructive behaviour is not due to savage instincts but is the result of a psychosis caused by the ‘instincts and intellect’ clash. It does all make sense now. You might be interested in Freedom Essay 21, where you can read more about how we developed our loving, moral soul or instinctive self.
Brenna Guy
Cool
Canute Rodney
Sounds Good and would Love to know more
WTM Admin
Good on you Canute Rodney, you wont be dissapointed. If you go to the top of our homepage—HumanCondition.com—it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes registering for our free, live events with Jeremy Griffith and others and joining our popular Facebook Group. It is also worth mentioning that all Jeremy Griffith’s books are freely available on the website.
Brenda
Can’t wait to hear your program.
Cindy Ann Crenshaw
I have belief this for a long time but you have put into words, and explained it. I felt that, at some time in our beginnings, that God had breath a soul. We are getting in our body. And from then on we were different than all other mammal. It used to be only rich people would support a thinker like Plato. When we don’t have to spend all day trying to survive, like gathering wood, food, a safe place to sleep. We can then think and contemplate our beginnings, and our soul and humanity. Thank you.
WTM Admin
Thank you very much for your comment Cindy Ann. Yes, this information is for everyone; it is the breakthrough that every human has been striving for since the emergence of consciousness, and it redeems and rehabilitates every single human on the planet. You may be interested in some further reading on how we developed our extraordinary loving instinctive self or moral conscience or ‘soul’, which as Charles Darwin recognised, ‘affords the best and highest distinction between man and the lower animals’, which you can do in Freedom Essay 21.
Pamela Kallaway
Wanting to learn about the human condition
WTM Admin
There is a feast of information here for you Pamela. Obviously start with THE Interview as it is the best introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s breakthrough explanation of the human condition. You will then find that at the top of our homepage—HumanCondition.com—it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest! This includes registering for our free, live events with Jeremy Griffith and others and joining our popular Facebook Group. If you are someone that likes to read books, you will be excited to find that all Jeremy Griffith’s books are freely available on the website.
MeiJeeWongNichols
It is incredible how selffinding can be a process that lasts forever.
WTM Admin
Up until now real ‘self-finding’ has been an impossible, confronting task for humans; for genuine progress to be made we needed to answer the essential question of why, when the ideals are to be loving and selfless, are we so competitive and selfish? It is this question of questions that biologist Jeremy Griffith has solved with his instinct vs intellect explanation and what is unique about his work.
Steve
Interview with Freedom book author on attaining an understanding of the human condition
Sharon Geldart
Thank you 🙏 and thank your team for this amazing discovery and hope people take the advantage soon. What a world it will be!
Sandy
Hi Jeremy
Watched yr Interview and found yr message dynamic and profound. Listening was easy and I got it straight away but had to rewind a few times to fully get you. 💯 % got you. I feel the change I am accepting myself in brilliant ❤️ love and seeing my goodness and compassion oozing from my soul connection with ❤️ love, source, universe or a supremely kind benevolent loving God ❤️ It is so freeing and I feel relieved like a burden a huge burden of shame guilt not being enough anxious about being human and prone to sin sometimes, enough......
I will never be the same it’s like a switch was flicked and I see my protection my power my purpose my loyalty was not for nought my heart is set for peace, harmony deep happiness and understanding. May God’s Glorious Kingdom come and usher in perfect peace for all mankind. Thanks for your wonderful 🏆 🥇 🏅 🏆
Tom Roark
I kept seeing ads for this video, and finally watched just to prove that my cynicism was justified. Oops! This is entirely sincere and not dumb.
WTM Admin
Thanks for your comment Tom, and good on you for investigating. As WTM FAQ 1.9 ‘Should people be sceptical’ explains, the absolutely astonishing claims made about Jeremy Griffith’s treatise, such as Professor Harry Prosen (former president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association) saying “I have no doubt Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race”, do warrant initial extreme scepticism, but the amazing fact is that they all withstand scrutiny. A person can begin reading the explanation and the more they read into it the more they will realise the claims are actually true, and in time become appreciated for their forthright honesty in indicating where the solution to our problems lies.
Laureen Anderson
What I loved about this interview was that it was able to marry together the Darwin theory, the Apes and the Bible. This is truly a breakthrough and very impressive
Ann
Its is unfortunate that the world leaders would rather choose to have a deaf ear to such information than to ever consider it.
WTM Admin
The truth is that this redeeming, uplifting and healing explanation of the human condition is SO liberating and SO exciting that it won’t be long be everyone realises that it is completely pointless to keep trying to compensate for their insecurity through the pursuit of power and glory. You might be interested in FAQ 1.40, which addresses the questions of ‘Aren’t the problems of the world too overwhelming to ever be fixed? / Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’. It explains that “Even those who were most committed to defensively seeking validation through gaining power and material goods, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real biological explanation of the human condition that proves our worth at the most fundamental level.”
Bill Chapman
This is the next step on intellectual and spiritual evolution. Very well presented.
Meredith
amazing video!
Rosi Pineiro
Interesting. Conversations With God by Neale Donald Walsh speaks of this and so much more.
WTM Admin
Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition, brings biological understanding to religious accounts of our condition, which means we can at last reconcile science and religion. For instance, as THE Interview explains, the story of Adam and Eve is a pre-scientific metaphor for the emergence of consciousness and its clash with our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts, resulting in humans becoming psychologically upset or ‘sinful’ or ‘evil’. However, significantly we can now understand, from scientific first principles, that ‘Adam and Eve’ were ‘good’ to search for knowledge, not bad or ‘evil’; we humans are actually the absolute heroes of the whole story! It establishes that we are good and not bad after all. What THE Interview presents fundamentally lifts the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race and allows us to forgive ourselves and others and finally end our psychologically troubled human condition—it couldn’t be a bigger breakthrough. You might be interested in our FAQs about religion, especially 6.2 ‘What is God’ and 6.3 ‘Does this understanding undermine religion’. Also there are Jeremy’s Freedom Essays 38 – 41 about the demysification of religion which are absolutely fascinating.
Angie Krusto
Very brave and courageous!
Allen
Need more information ,?
WTM Admin
Hi Allen, at the top of our homepage—HumanCondition.com—it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest! This includes registering for our free, live events with Jeremy Griffith and others and joining our popular Facebook Group. It is also worth mentioning that all Jeremy Griffith’s books are freely available on the website.
Debi
This philosophy of thought can be understood more than the course in miracles because we live with science…I would love this to be acknowledged by science because this is happening and we are here to forgive and be fearless and quit giving our power away to science.
WTM Admin
Yes Debi, there is a huge difference between this understanding and the ‘Course in Miracles’, which this comment on Video/Freedom Essay 9 by subscriber Lesley Davies illustrates: “I can now see why A Course in Miracles didn’t work for me. I completed the 365 day course three years running to try and heal myself from deep depression and anxiety. After reading essay 15 [Freedom Essay 15: ‘How your life can immediately be transformed’] and studying Freedom it becomes clear that without the explanation of WHY we are so upset ACIM can only act as a sticky plaster with the ’scream’ still going on underneath.”
And, again, you are quite right about the current state of science; as FAQ 1.2 explains, unable to confront the human condition, science has been mechanistic and reductionist, and what’s more, has denied the existence of our psychologically troubled human condition, blaming our selfish behaviour on ‘savage instincts’ within us. And that is where the human race has been stalled, waiting in an increasingly distressed state for the real explanation for our psychologically troubled human condition that will finally make sense of the riddle of human life. That is, until now—because that human-mind-liberating, psychosis-relieving REAL explanation has at last been delivered!
Deborah Wallace-Antoine
Interesting
agbc
I am interested in what you could potentially teach me in the spectrum of the *new
WTM Admin
While elements of the human condition have been recognised by certain thinkers throughout history, what is unique about Jeremy Griffith’s synthesis is he actually solves the dilemma of the human condition by clarifying the difference between the way the intellect and instincts work. That is the great breakthrough his work represents (see Freedom Essay 4 on other thinkers who have recognised instinct and intellect elements involved in creating the human condition).
Rosie
Very interesting brakethrough. Never believed Darwins idea of humans appearance and development. It seems I am also one of those few that escaped the Matrix and the illness described 🤔 I have been seeing all this human ill behaviour as Ilness but the question is how you all treat those people if they don’t acknowledge they need help and treatment .
I am looking forward to get hold of the book .
WTM Admin
Thanks for your comment Rosie. While you can purchase copies of FREEDOM in all good bookstores including Amazon, we just wanted to let you know that electronic versions of FREEDOM are also freely available on our homepage www.humancondition.com.
With regard to how this healing information will catch on when everyone is so determined to deny that there is anything wrong, you might be interested in FAQ 1.40, which explains that “Even those who were most committed to defensively seeking validation through gaining power and material goods, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real biological explanation of the human condition that proves our worth at the most fundamental level.”
I also wanted to draw your attention to the ‘ship at sea’ position Jeremy talks about which you may or may not relate to. Freedom Essay 30 titled Resignation explains that some adolescents refuse to properly resign and take up the strategy of denial of the issue of the human condition that almost everybody else does. They courageously keep facing it, refuse to ‘pull into a port’, as it were, and escape the storms of confrontation with the real horror of the human condition, which does produce a torturous existence.
Kip Keitany
Evolution is not new but our capacity to grasp it is. This is an eye-opener. Thank you for enhancing our minds.
Denzil
Excited to know more
WTM Admin
Thanks for your comment Denzil. At the top of our homepage—HumanCondition.com—it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest! This includes registering for our free, live events with Jeremy Griffith and others and joining our popular Facebook Group.
Juliette McDonald
Enjoy this and listening to it
Rene D Zammarelli
Very enlightening interview, so what suggestions are there for pregnant women and newborn babies??
WTM Admin
Thank you for your question Rene. Firstly THE Interview is a summary presentation which outlines what Jeremy Griffith presents in his definitive book FREEDOM so we recommend all newcomers further their interest by reading FREEDOM and also watching our introductory video series which expands on all that is explained (all freely available on our homepage.)
Secondly this explanation opens up an entirely new way of thinking about humans, which is exciting, but it does present a huge paradigm shift in how we view ourselves and the world. For instance, we now know that we had to search for knowledge, ultimately sufficient knowledge to explain the human condition — why we are divisively rather than cooperatively behaved — but that this search corrupted us, which was the price we had to pay. This point about our fundamental responsibility to search for knowledge even though it was upsetting and corrupting, allows us to appreciate that our upset is a heroic state, and that upset includes our compromised ability to love — to love ourselves, each other, the next generation and the world. You can read more about the impact of the human condition on our ability to nurture in chapter 8:16C of FREEDOM. So the human condition has affected everything, but what this breakthrough understanding means to all of us, and what makes it so relieving, is the macro truth that we no longer have to be burdened by the fundamental question of whether we are good or bad because our fundamental goodness has now been scientifically established, and this extraordinary relief and security then flows into every aspect of human life, including the all-important task of raising children. We think you might be interested in reading FAQ 1.5 ‘Why is this understanding important to my life’.
Elda Kokoneshi
A Big BRAVO !!!
Jenny
Amazing men at a time like this, very brave
Sarah Charles
Very interesting assimilation of collective knowledge - interested in your thoughts around the physiological processes which underpin the psychological ones. The ideal state of being inside the womb and the process of being born or expelled from the garden of Eden? The impact of parallel processes and our birth experiences. Is birth our first psychological crisis as suggested by Otto Rank?
Damon
As ‘THE Interview’ explains, to avoid the terrifying issue of the corrupted state of the human condition, human-condition-avoiding, resigned humans necessarily had to find some way of denying that our species did once live in a cooperative and loving state because then there would be no original innocent state to have become corrupted and therefore no guilt or shame.
One way of doing this was to dismiss any suggestion or mention of our species having once lived in a cooperative and loving Edenic Golden Age as nothing more than an expression of nostalgia for the warmth, comfort and security of infancy or even the womb, which is the so-called paradise-as-infancy theory (see for example, par 184 of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM https://www.humancondition.com/freedom-further-evidence-of-the-three-fundamental-truths/#par184).
Because I am not overly familiar with Rank’s work, I am not sure if he is using the ‘ideal state within the womb’ to deny our cooperative past, or just identifying the impact of the trauma of birth and how it creates anxiety later in life, which is certainly true enough.
What I can say with certainty is that while birth trauma does deeply affect us, Jeremy has explained that the greater trauma, and the reason we are now so alienated that birth is so traumatic for newborns, is the psychosis caused by the human condition. We suggest that the more you digest Jeremy’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation, the more you will realise just how accountable and explanatory it is in getting to the source of all humanity’s psychological upset and trauma, and just as importantly, healing it. You might be particularly interested in FAQ1.35 which explains how the macro understanding of humanity’s fundamental worth is the key to real therapy for all humans https://www.humancondition.com/wtm-faq-does-this-heal-anxiety/.
Rachael
Eye opening interview! I’m looking forward to learning more!! Thank you for sharing!!!
Denise Brown
Very interesting
Gerette
Brilliant!
Billyard-greene Carrie anne
For me the human condition has and always will be the me first model...
Me first, then my family, then my neighborhood, then my community, then my town or city, then my province or state, then my country then the continent then the world.
We assume one nation just has a better breed of citizens, which isn’t so - they just have more resources than the rest of us.
Here in Canada people are polite to one another because we have more than what we need, we are not all fighting over 1 fish in the river, or one deer to feed our families, we have an abundance of food, water and other resources...take that away and you will see all politeness go straight out the window!
Polite society is a very thin veneer that is becoming worn as we are tried in this crisis
The me first - take what I need at any cost to society model of every psychopath for themselves has to change if we are ever to get beyond the “ human condition”
WTM Admin
Thank you for your thoughts Carrie anne. We suggest the more you absorb what is presented in THE Interview the more you will realise that it explains humans’ psychological upset (our selfish ‘me first’ mentality) is not a product of unchangeable survival animal instincts within us but the result of a universal psychosis, caused by the clash between our instinct and intellect, and a psychosis is changeable as it can be healed through understanding. See FAQ 1.6 summaries how this understanding ends the ‘me-first model’ by explaining the human condition, and in doing so ends human suffering at its source and unites the human race.’
Yvonne New Zealand
This was fascinating to listen to, it reminded me a little of how Gene Roddenberry wrote in his TV series Star Trek , the whole of Earth working together as one, co-operating, caring, trying to bring about peace.
Unfortunatley humans don’t have a good track record and fall back on war and cruelty, being kind and respectful is often looked upon as weakness and easy prey for the wicked. We have a real battle in the coming centuries if we don’t want to annilate the planet and everything on it.
WTM Admin
THE Interview explains that the idea of the whole of the Earth working together as one is no longer some pseudo idealistic vision of utopia because it is now based on a first-principle biological explanation for why humans haven’t been cooperative which actually brings an end to that divisive condition, see FAQ 1.3 ‘What is biologist Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition?’. Also Yvonne explanation of the human condition does open up a long-forbidden area for humans and that can make it initially difficult to access. So we suggest re-watching the presentation and FAQ 1.16 is most helpful in explaining this ‘deaf effect’ discussion of this subject can at first cause.
Tanya
A whole new level of thought, I am intrigued, fascinated and feeling hopeful. Thank you
Stella Mae Meacher
I am very pleased and grateful for your willingness to share this with whom ever, bless you. Is it possible to buy the book on audio like Amazon. I had a stroke and only understand when it’s read to me?
WTM Admin
Thank you, Stella, and yes, THE Interview is freely available in audio form on our homepage here (see option 5), and can be purchased as an Audiobook for free from Amazon here. I might mention that Jeremy Griffith’s book Transform Your Life And Save The World (which provides a summary of his definitive treatise, FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition) is also available in audio on this website here (see option 4), and on Amazon here, should you be interested in this book as well, Stella.
Tara Moss
How enlightening for the world.
Frieda Van Aardt
Thank you. We all need to hear and understand that🙏
Chiressi Leda
Very interesting interview I try to get this book here in Italy
Thank you
WTM Admin
It’s wonderful you now want to read FREEDOM Chiressi! And you don’t have to wait as it are freely available right HERE on our homepage to read online, download or print your own copy. You will also see the booklet version of THE Interview and Jeremy Griffith’s other key books are also free at this link. You can also download the free Kindle versions or purchase hard copies from Amazon. Hard copies are also available at other good bookstores.
Jeremy’s books and essays are being translated into many languages around the world, thanks to wonderful efforts from the WTM’s ever-expanding global network of support. Unfortunately we don’t yet have any Italian translations but our Translations page shows all languages that are available. Also people can watch THE Interview (and all the videos on our website) using the closed captions or subtitles function in their native language (just click on the ‘cc’ icon at the bottom of the video player/window).
Julian
I think this is a product of ‘wishful thinking’! I am also a biologist. The evolution of consciousness and emotions has been gradual and full of strife. It was not a sudden transformation but took hundreds of thousands of years. We are now a complex neurotic mix influenced by our primal urges by usually managed by our intellect because we need to be social.
WTM Admin
THE Interview explains exactly that Julian, that the development of consciousness was gradual, occurring over millions of years, and full of impasses (Jeremy discusses how consciousness developed in Part 3 of THE Interview and refers the audience to chapter 7 of his definitive book FREEDOM for a more in-depth explanation of how we humans became fully conscious; see also FAQ 5.4). This does represent a huge paradigm shift, and so it can take some time to absorb, but we suggest that the more you digest the instinct vs intellect explanation, the more accountable you will realise it is. What becomes clear is that we are not such a destructive and divisive species because of the influence of primal instincts that the conscious mind has to control in order to be social, but because we are a psychologically upset species. As Jeremy so accurately says in THE Interview, “words used to describe our human behaviour such as egocentric, arrogant, inspired, depressed, deluded, pessimistic, optimistic, artificial, hateful, cynical, mean, sadistic, immoral, brilliant, guilt-ridden, evil, psychotic, neurotic and alienated, all recognise the involvement of OUR species’ fully conscious thinking mind. They demonstrate that there is a psychological dimension to our behaviour; that we don’t suffer from a genetic-opportunism-driven ‘animal condition’, but a conscious-mind-based, psychologically troubled HUMAN CONDITION.”
With regard to the clash between instinct and intellect, you might be interested in pars 247-248 of the online version of FREEDOM which provide an overview of how the emerging conscious mind must have come into conflict with our naturally selected instincts.
Basically, as is explained in THE Interview, saying our selfish and aggressive behaviour is a manifestation of primal selfish instincts was just a convenient excuse while we searched for the psychosis-addressing-and-solving real explanation of our divisive behaviour (see FAQ 1.29 ‘is the human condition biological or psychological’).
Moreetsi Mogapi
Obviously mindblowing
michael-greece
“How does your work bring about the psychological rehabilitation of the human race?”... It doesn’t! It may be an interesting book, but a book does not bring about the psychological rehabilitation of the human race. Not even of one person. Come on!
WTM Admin
As WTM FAQ 1.9 ‘Should people be sceptical’ explains, the absolutely astonishing claims made about Jeremy Griffith’s treatise, such as Professor Harry Prosen (former president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association) saying “I have no doubt Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race”, do warrant initial extreme scepticism, but the amazing fact is that they all withstand scrutiny. A person can begin reading the explanation and the more they read into it the more they will realise the claims are actually true, and in time become appreciated for their forthright honesty in indicating where the solution to our problems lies.
What is unique about Jeremy’s work is it at last answers the essential question of our so-called ‘good and evil’-stricken human condition—why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish, so much so that we are destroying ourselves and our world? To summarise how this rehabilitates the human race: now that we have the real defence and reinforcement of our fundamental goodness, all these artificial defences and reinforcements of gaining power, fame, fortune and glory are obsoleted, they are no longer needed. Having this core mystery and problem about human behaviour solved ends all the conflict and suffering in human life at its source, and provides the now urgently needed road map for the complete rehabilitation and transformation of our lives and world which is explained in Part 4 of THE Interview. Also see FAQ 1.5 and our Transformation page which includes many affirmations from people about how this understanding has transformed their lives and their families lives.
Marisa Conk
I got goosebumps during the introduction that was enough.
Shaquille Ndlela
Ground breaking understanding of human condition.My hope that this understanding will help result in better interaction amongst human beings.
Florie Mitchell
Absolutely Amazing and so very Bibical to me and now I truly understand my Bible Studies as Jeremy has just explained it all!! I will purchase his book! If this could be taught at School from year 7 up as a subject “Understanding the Human Conditions!” Our future generations will change and they will live the way, the truth and the light John14-16.. all of man’s questions of life are answered in this verse!!
What a wonder world it will be forever!!!
WTM Admin
Thank you for your wonderful feedback Florie. Yes Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition, brings biological understanding to religious accounts of our condition, which means we can at last truly understand religion and reconcile it with science. In fact this understanding is so powerful it actually reconciles all the polarities of human life. To quote Jeremy’s book FREEDOMchapter 4: “Yes, the instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition makes sense of and reconciles all the unresolved manifestations of the polarities of the human situation—‘good’ vs ‘evil’, idealism or ‘God’ vs human’s non-ideal existence, religion vs science, holism vs mechanism, altruism vs egotism, communism vs capitalism, conscience vs conscious, and so on—thus ameliorating or healing, and finally ending, the psychologically upset, divisive way we have been living!” So what you say is so true; ‘what a wonder world it will be forever!!!’
In terms of Christianity and Christ, Jeremy considers the Bible to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing all the truth about human life albeit from that pre-science view, and he has written about Christ’s life and its phenomenal importance in humanity’s journey in Freedom Essay 39. Our FAQs about religion are also absolutely fascinating.
angie
Good job
Cindy Sloan
I can’t wait to listen
Ellen Langston
This is an interesting topic which explains a lot about understanding the human condition. Will enjoy hearing more and also getting the book to read. Thank you for freely giving us this information.
karen
What about people who are termed psychopaths?
WTM Admin
At last we can understand where humans’ psychopathic, what historically has been termed ‘evil’, behaviour comes from. As THE Interview explains humans are born with loving moral instincts but we all now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition and, in the extreme, that psychologically conflicted upset state produces extremely destructive behaviour. Of course this breakthrough explanation doesn’t condone or sanction the horrendous attrocities humans can commit rather, through bringing compassionate understanding to the source of humans’ upset behaviour, it gives us the power to ameliorate and thus subside and ultimately eliminate it, see FAQ 1.38 Aren’t some people just born psychopathic, or even ‘evil’? / How does this explanation rehabilitate people capable of ‘evil’ behaviour? / Does this condone ‘evil’ behaviour?
Patsy McNeil
We need to be hungry for more of this way learning.
Mike Meehan
Whilst I agree with a lot of what has been forward with instinctive behaviour being contrary to a reasoned view. Though, I don’t think we can completely divorce instinct from reason. In this, I am thinking particularly of the instinct for survival, which would appear to be the Achilles heel of this theory. This, when being threatened induces fear and is common to all animal life above a certain level which will bring about a reaction to fight or flee. It is only on very rare occasions, such as when Captain Oates (Scott expedition to the South Pole 1911), realising that he was seriously incapacitated to the extent it was reducing survival chances of his colleagues, left the tent and deliberately walked to his death in a blizzard. This survival instinct would appear to be a root cause of many of the unsavoury aspects of modern man emerging in the forms of greed and selfishness.
WTM Admin
Key to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that humans’ primary instinctive orientation is not ‘must-reproduce-your-genes selfishness’ but rather to behave selflessly. While it is true that altruistic, unconditionally selfless genetic traits are self-eliminating, and therefore seemingly cannot develop in animals, as Jeremy Griffith explains in Part 3 of THE Interview the selfish process of natural selection was able to create loving selflessness in our forebears through nurturing (Freedom Essay 21 on our World Transformation Movement’s website, and chapter 5 of FREEDOM explain this ‘love-indoctrination’ process, as Jeremy has termed it, more fully).
While we do still possess very primitive reflexes, such as for ‘fight or flight’, beneath our altruistic, unconditionally selfless instincts, these primitive reflexes do not control our behaviour beyond very narrow scenarios or threats. The truth is that our angry, competitive and egocentric behaviour is not instinctive in any way; it is the result of a psychosis. Basically, as is explained in THE Interview, saying our selfish and aggressive behaviour is a manifestation of survival or selfish instincts was just a convenient excuse while we searched for the psychosis-addressing-and-solving real explanation of our divisive behaviour (see FAQ 1.29 ‘is the human condition biological or psychological’).
Lori
We need truth and freedom
Debra
Amen thank you love truth
Malcolm Pritchard
I will listen to the interview again (and again) as I would like to reconcile the message from Jeremy Griffiths with the story of the Garden of Eden and the teachings of Christ (and the prophets of other religions) and the forgiveness of sins.
WTM Admin
Great to hear you will explore this further Malcolm. Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition, brings biological understanding to religious accounts of our condition, which means we can at last reconcile science and religion. For instance, as THE Interview explains, the story of Adam and Eve is a pre-scientific metaphor for the emergence of consciousness and its clash with our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts, resulting in humans becoming psychologically upset or ‘sinful’ or ‘evil’. However, significantly we can now understand, from scientific first principles, that ‘Adam and Eve’ were ‘good’ to search for knowledge, not bad or ‘evil’; we humans are actually the absolute heroes of the whole story! It establishes that we are good and not bad after all. What THE Interview presents fundamentally lifts the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race and allows us to forgive ourselves and others and finally end our psychologically troubled human condition—it couldn’t be a bigger breakthrough. You might be interested in our FAQs about religion, especially 6.2 ‘What is God’ and 6.3 ‘Does this understanding undermine religion’. Also there are Jeremy’s Freedom Essays 38 – 41 about the demysification of religion which are absolutely fascinating.
Tracey Blackwell
Enlightening, simple once heard. I advocate for parents to take the time, have the support & be able to intuitively raise their offspring 💗
Sirianni Jeannie
Mind extending
Mark
I have an older sibling who spent over 25 years of his life as a very active member of the Socialist movement in Australia.
In that time we have had countless discussions about how the system would be structured and how people would be expected to change their lives. Love was never mentioned. Never.
WTM Admin
Love couldn’t be profoundly discussed in general because, as THE Interview mentions, love is unconditional selflessness, and that is a truth we couldn’t safely admit until we could explain the human condition—explain WHY our human behaviour has often been so competitive, selfish and aggressive, so seemingly unloving. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. Socialism attempted to bring about a cooperative society without first getting to the bottom of the human condition, but what Jeremy is putting forward is that for there to be a fundamental change in our human situation we had to understand the human condition – humans’ capacity for good and evil – from a biological perspective. We recommend our FAQs about politics which explain how this all-reconciling understanding of human behaviour brings an end to the necessary but ugly world of politics.
Janeth
Brillant, I need to listen again and again to fully comprehend since my native languages are Spanish and French. Thank you so much to you both.
Mack
Very mind expanding
Bill Dodson
What the biological operates irrespective of the environment you’d only have to look at all the Geographical insanities of religion to see that argument wouldn’t go far!
WTM Admin
It does take time to digest, but THE Interview puts forward that all humans are psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated as a result of the instinct vs intellect clash, even though it may manifest itself in slightly different ways depending on the culture or environment. Our FAQs about religion explain the important role that religions have played during humanity’s great but corrupting search for knowledge.
terry
Most interesting!
sharon cruz
I have been saying this for years that self condemnation is what imprisoned our minds & souls
WTM Admin
What is new and so critically important about what Jeremy Griffith has presented is the biological understanding of WHY we condemned ourselves! Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work. This explains that the original source of all the condemnation was our pre-established moral instincts criticising our intellect’s necessary search for knowledge, a criticism that caused us to become psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated. This redeeming understanding is the unique breakthrough of biologist Jeremy Griffith’s work which at last relieves the burden of self-condemnation and brings peace to our divided selves, see FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’
Susan Wurtz
It was fascinating. I have 3 pages of notes. I definitely need to see this a few more times and read the book Freedom. Thank You Jeremy Griffith you are amazing. I hope I spelled your name properly. You made me excited again about life and the reality that I need more education even at 63. Your description of the Bonobo Apes warmed my heart. You are truly a genius. I’m sorry I forgot the name of the host of the show but he was wonderful and well educated on the topic to do an intelligent interview. I was quite impressed. I look forward to learning more so I too can explain your beliefs to my people.
FRANK MIDDENDORP
Cooperative and loving behavior service in the end is a selfish goal. Sometimes we fight, sometimes we bond. It is all fundamentally driven by survival.
ted markstein
Fight or flight is necessary for survival. The primary purpose of instinct is to ensure survival. We need to work with what we’ve got.
WTM Admin
Key to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that humans’ primary instinctive orientation is not selfish, must-reproduce-our-genes 'survival’ but rather, to behave selflessly. While it is true that altruistic, unconditionally selfless genetic traits are self-eliminating, and therefore seemingly cannot develop in animals, as Jeremy Griffith explains in Part 3 of THE Interview the selfish process of natural selection was able to create loving selflessness in our forebears through nurturing (Freedom Essay 21 on our World Transformation Movement’s website, and chapter 5 of FREEDOM explain this ‘love-indoctrination’ process, as Jeremy has termed it, more fully).
So while it is a common misconception that selfish instincts are the source of our selfish and aggressive behaviour, as is also explained in THE Interview, that was just a convenient excuse while we searched for the psychosis-addressing-and-solving real explanation of our divisive behaviour. However, as host Craig Conway summarises, “we don’t need the convenient excuse anymore that we have some kind of savage animal instincts because we have the real explanation of our conscious-mind-based psychologically troubled human condition!”
Fred Henn
Amazing, I’m not educated in this type of work, but it was explained so clearly I started to understand what you were telling me, I’m going to listen again and probably again, thank you very much, one more thing I really think a load fell from my shoulders
WTM Admin
What wonderful feedback Fred, thank you. Yes re-watching THE Interview, and watching the video series that follows it, is exactly what we recommend. Also Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM is a must! All these publications are freely available on our homepage HumanCondition.com which provides the perfect guide to pursue your interest.
Many express the same sentiment of a load being lifted from their shoulders, in fact you can see from the daily ecstatic responses on our homepage people everywhere are so relieved to finally be able to make sense of human life!! Jeremy’s work fundamentally lifts the weight of shame, the ‘burden of guilt’, from our shoulders; it establishes that we are good and not bad after all by resolving the conflict between our intellect and instinct and brings about the transformation of our lives and the world—see our Transformation page.
Rene Singh
I will have to download the book
WTM Admin
Hi Rene, you can download Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM along with the booklet version of THE Interview and his other key books here on our homepage. You can also download the free Kindle version from Amazon. Otherwise you can purchase hard copies from Amazon or other good bookstores.
Anne Coplestone
For 81 years I’ve watched the decline of earth’s human Family fall deeper into individualistic, egotistitic, self-centred and so competitive driven behaviour. My supremely intelligent Son took his life in July last year. In his last note, he apologised for his choice but although he so loved his wife and Sons, he couldn’t make sense of this life. So wish we had had this profound and sense making insights and hopeful answers before that Tragedy. I gives me some hope for mankind and the Planet.
WTM Admin
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and devastating experience Anne. It is heartbreaking to hear of the terribly tragic loss of your beloved son and we send you and your family all the love in the world. The human condition has caused such unthinkable pain and suffering so we are thankful you have found this understanding and that is it giving you hope for humanity. For us all, but especially those who have experienced great loss, it is deeply comforting to know that our species has been on the most heroic journey from ignorance to enlightenment and that every human life is extraordinarily significant and meaningful. This quote from Jeremy Griffith’s book A Species In Denial (which you can read online here) captures so powerfully the magnificence of the human journey: “Now that it is possible to understand the human condition, understand that humans were actually good and not bad, were indeed part of ‘God’s’ great plan—a profound part of the development of order of matter on Earth—it can be understood that all human effort since time immemorial has been meaningful. Humans can now understand that each and every human life is extraordinarily significant and that their efforts on Earth, the real essence of their being, do carry on and endure...Sir Laurens van der Post described how humans carry on in an even greater way after their physical death when he wrote: ‘We make a great mistake when we think that people whose lives have been intimately woven into our own, cease to influence us when they die…The dead become part of the dynamics of our spirit, of the basic symbolism of our minds. They join the infinite ranks of the past, as vast as the hosts of the future, and so much greater than our own little huddle of people in the present’.”
Art Hildebrand
GOOD WORK KEEP GOING
Denise Lackmann
AMAZING WISDOM <3
,angel
Looking forward to this. We all need to open our eyes and mind a little more
seka benkovic
Need to watch it again?
WTM Admin
The long-awaited arrival of the truth about our human condition produces a paradigm shift in our thinking—a great deal of sweeping change to adjust to in fact—so re-watching THE Interview, and then watching the video/essay series that follows it, is exactly what we recommend. Also all our key publications are freely available on our homepage HumanCondition.com which provides the perfect guide to help with this adjustment. At the top of our homepage you can see the ecstatic responses to THE Interview is receiving daily so it is well worth re-watching!
Barbara Johnson
The interview lifted my heart as I never have understood how human history could be so cruel. Now I found out that the missing link in my mind was the evolution of consciousness I did not know about. I worked a lot in psychotherapy on my shadows but felt left alone in my environment and in not understanding the world events: the wars, political sytems, the greed and disrespect. Oh, how I would like to feel relieved of the shame of being human.
WTM Admin
Thank you for your very thoughtful comment, Barbara. Yes, as THE Interview explains, our conscious mind’s defiance of our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts resulted in the angry, egocentric and alienated upset state of our human condition; as you say we became “so cruel”, capable of “wars”, “greed and disrespect”, and that cruelty has been a feature of our history. But we can now understand that this upset was the price humans had to pay for searching for knowledge and with that understanding the guilt and shame we have carried for departing from our all-loving instincts is finally relieved. Jeremy Griffith’s work fundamentally lifts the shame, the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race; it establishes that we are good and not bad after all by resolving the conflict between our intellect and instinct and making it possible to “own our own shadow”, as Jung was forever pointing out (see paragraph 107 in THE Interview).
You may also be interested in FAQ 1.34 on ‘How does understanding the human race’s condition help with an individual’s depression and psychosis?’ It’s written by Professor Harry Prosen, a former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, who writes that “the beauty of Griffith’s treatise is that the healing starts at the macro level of the universal human condition; the healing of the shame and blame that the whole human race has suffered from…It brings the greater context and love to all human psychosis and suffering, and then, from under the umbrella of that safe position, everyone can gradually work inwards to their particular experience of all the imperfections in human life that have now, finally, been made sense of.”
Raese
Fascinating
SYLVIA HOOD
Very interesting, but in my humble opinion, not new but age old wisdom.
WTM Admin
Hi Sylvia, we recommend reading FAQ 1.13 “Is this idea original or new? / How does biologist Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition differ from other theories that recognise these elements?”, as it explains the unique significance of Jeremy’s work.
Hajira Abed
I am so impressed by the WTM and Dr Griffith for their incredible generosity in sharing priceless information for free. May the Lord grant you the power and might to overcome the force of evil that’s ruling the world, and us.
WTM Admin
Thank you Hajira for your appreciative comment. At the top of our homepage — HumanCondition.com — it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes registering for our free, live events with Jeremy Griffith and others and joining our popular Facebook Group. Also our Transformation page (which follows on from Part 4 of THE Interview) is about the Transformed Way of Living or how we live in support of this understanding. To quote “We now have the completely redeeming, uplifting and healing biological understanding of the core mystery and problem about human behaviour of our so-called ‘good and evil’-stricken human condition—thus ending all the conflict and suffering in human life at its source, and providing the now urgently needed road map for the complete rehabilitation and transformation of our lives and world!”
You may also be interested in our FAQs about religion. These summarise how explanation of the human condition demystifies religion by bringing biological understanding to pre-scientific concepts.
Katherine White
Where can I find your book?
WTM Admin
Hi Katherine, you can purchase hard copies of The Interview, FREEDOM and Jeremy’s other books at bookstores, including Amazon. They are also all available free of charge to read online or download here on our website.
Rolande Guindon
Wish this can be translated in French for all Canadian French people, so we can share with our relations and family. Ce serait merveilleux que cette entrevue soit traduite en français pour nous les Canadiens [It would be wonderful if this interview were translated into French for us Canadians (translated from French)].
WTM Admin
As well as being able to watch THE Interview with French subtitles you can access it, along with our entire Introductory Video series, in French on our Translations page. Also, the WTM Centres in Nice and Switzerland present their websites in French, and also feature these French translations. You can contact these Centres via the contact page on their websites.
Gloria
Interesting
Dan
I enjoyed this interview and the explanations it gave explaining the human condition. The material is logical. But I have to say there are questions. For one, this is an intellectual or academic explanation of human behavior, which begs the question about human emotions, a primary driver of all of our actions.
I think its a bit simplistic to say if we can understand our motivations for the behaviors we as humans currently exhibit then we can change them. My experience and study into human behavior has also shown be that for a person to change their behavior, even after they’ve understood intellectually the reasons for their behavior, such change will not occur unless they are first motivated (have a reason) to do so and more importantly, a belief they can do so. If there is any doubt in an individual that change is possible, then I fear that change will never take place.
The premise of nurturing positive consciousness from birth is also valid and understandable, but here again, if the parent involved is not of the understanding or motivation to raise a loving peaceful child, it is unlikely they will. Think of a Putin or the CEO of a Mega Corporation raising a child to succeed in this world. The likelihood of them intellectually understanding the concepts presented here and instilling them into their new offspring is very unlikely.
But, that said I do believe, and hope someday, people will evolve to a higher plane of understanding and living with each other in more peaceful ways. But I’m not sure it will come about simply through science and academia, so much as it will come from lessons learned the hard way which seems to be the way life teaches us best and History shows we are slow learners.
Only time will tell, I suppose, and hope my doubts are wrong about mankind. I just don’t think its as simple as saying “all you need is love.”
WTM Admin
What is so extraordinary about Jeremy Griffith’s treatise is that it logically and accountably defends human selfishness and egocentricity. It is that defence of our ‘dark side’, through finding the good reason that we had to defy our instincts, that means all our defensive behaviours (our anger, egocentricity and alienation) are now redundant. We no longer need them because we have the real defense for why we had to defy our instincts. Certainly it will take some generations for all our hurt and trauma to subside, but people can immediately choose to behave in line with a set of principles any time they want – they do it all the time in religions (although the ‘change of heart’ this information allows is based rational scientific knowledge, not faith). And because it is a rational, accountable, scientific explanation, everyone will eventually take it up. So while it may take time for everyone to access this breakthrough (because the human condition has historically been such a fearful, off-limits topic), once this catches on through people recognising the importance of it and supporting it, the infectious enthusiasm and selfless love it liberates will spread like wildfire.
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Comments on THE Interview
Since THE Interview between Craig Conway and Jeremy Griffith first aired in 2020, tens of thousands of viewers have commented on it on HumanCondition.com — this is an archive of all those comments, including helpful responses from our team.
This is page 25 of 180 (pages run from the oldest comments to the latest).
The Comments below were made between February 9, 2022 and February 21, 2022.
Thank you Jeremy & Craig! This info confirms something I said to a friend about 25 years ago! “Everyone on the planet loves someone! If everyone took a hand of someone they love, we would all be connected!” She said, “wow, that is awesome! Yeah!” I believe I just felt what she did that day! Thank you for sharing this amazing work!
I want to see our world restored
Makes total sense. Unbelievable how easy it is to understand. I have been enlightened.
I have never listened about the human condition rehabilitation. It helps me to understand more about the human being. I am very interesting to learn the Psychological and Biological evaluation of human race. Thank you very much for your important contribution to this issue.
After 62 years- & now having finally & suddenly found the beginning of The Answer to the The Question of “What Is The Meaning Of Man?”- I’m- I know you understand- struggling to sum up the rest of my euphoric thoughts. Thank you! Best wishes, Martin Beale 😊❤️
Isn’t competitive and aggressive behavior more dominate in Caucasian people than any other race. Considering how all European societies went around this world Colonizing it.
As THE Interview explains all humans are born with all-loving moral instincts but now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition caused by the conscious mind’s necessary search for knowledge. So we can at last understand WHY as a species we have become psychologically upset—so competitive and aggressive as to want to dominate and control others. We can also explain that all ‘races’ (ethnic groups) fall somewhere on the spectrum of either being more sheltered from humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, or more exposed to it, and so are either more innocent or more psychologically upset. We can see that at this point of time Caucasians fall somewhere in the middle, with more psychologically embattled races having ‘peaked’ earlier, and less psychologically embattled races yet to peak (see chapter 8:16E of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM), however, the truth is that all humans are now part of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, and are therefore nowhere near as innocent as humans were some 2 million years ago when the battle of the human condition first emerged. So the more upset have been overthrowing the less upset since the human condition emerged. However, what is most important is that despite the differing levels of upset due to everyone’s different encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, we are all equally good. Now we can understand the human condition we can see that no person or race is superior or inferior. This desperately needed reconciling understanding of the relationship between races is further explained in Freedom Essay 28 and for a testimonial on the power of this information to end racism, we recommend watching/reading the presentation from Franklin Mukakanga, of Zambia, in Video/Freedom Essay 8.
het licht begint te dagen.; uit het donker naar het Licht. de hele mensheid ontwaakt! [The light begins to dawn; from the darkness into the light. The whole of mankind awakens! (translated from Dutch)]
This is so fascinating.My question is how can we go about getting the main stream scientific community to recognize these true finding?What about the government and they evil ways?
As with any new scientific breakthrough in history it will take time to gain mainstream acceptance, and from there break through the bastions of power in the world. However, with support from those who appreciate this understanding, the truth is that this redeeming, uplifting and healing explanation of the human condition is SO liberating and SO exciting that it won’t be long be everyone realises that it is completely pointless to keep trying to compensate for their insecurity through the pursuit of power and glory. You might be interested in FAQ 1.40, which addresses the questions of ‘Aren’t the problems of the world too overwhelming to ever be fixed? / Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’. It explains that “Even those who were most committed to defensively seeking validation through gaining power and material goods, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real biological explanation of the human condition that proves our worth at the most fundamental level.”Also being able to understand the human condition, we can now see that everyone has suffered from it, and all our institutions, including governments, have been a manifestation of our insecure, psychologically upset condition. Only solving the human condition can stop the disintegration of society and the destruction of our world that is happening everywhere we look, see FAQ 1.6.I would like to know more thank you
It’s wonderful you are eager to learn more Janita! If you go to the top of our homepage—HumanCondition.com—it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes registering for our free, live events with Jeremy Griffith and others and joining our popular Facebook Group. It is also worth mentioning that all Jeremy Griffith’s books are freely available on the website.
Thank you for your generous gift to humanity.
Insight and thinking about a future for all of us
It is a great way to heal our Human condition and bring good and co-operational into the human experience for the future
It was quite an interesting and brilliant conversation. I have made this very same journey. My concern and disagreement is that he connects dots that do not connect. His simplicity of both earthly and cosmic evolution/Transformation leaves out the intellectual discussion of a far more complex and vast world beyond the “Human Condition” which impacts and steers who we are, who we became, and our connection to and from and before the big bang. The bonoboos were a beautiful example but why they evolved as they did is the beauty and design of natural selection. They evolved in a particular niche that brought forth their experiences and example per natural selection. Good and evil are human concepts that should not be inflicted on our earthly and cosmic trajectory. The “Fall” is not simply humans gaining knowledge. It is our Transformation into self-consciousness from simple consciousness (we are not the only species with self-conscious). It has served us well until these last 250 human years. Now this golden apple is about to destroy us unless we do as our hundreds of wise sages have attempted to pass on to us: Rise from self-consciousness into a Higher Consciousness and that will Awaken us into a higher frequency and dimension. There is an even higher consciousness called Cosmic (Christ) Consciousness. This is the level of consciousness Jesus lived in, not as the son of God; but as a higher consciousness of the wise and radical Sage. Read the “Gospel of Thomas” found in 1945 in Nag Hammadi, Egypt. No narrative or miracles bullshit. But the best wisdom sayings I have ever read. The translation by Martin Myer my favorite. All Best, Tom Lapins
You might be interested in chapter 4 of Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM, in which he explains how through the Negative-Entropy-driven integrative process, a chaotic cosmos continues to organise itself into stars, planets and galaxies, and that it is this integration or development of order of matter on Earth that is the biological process that drives our development (summarised in FAQ 5.3). This is what Teilhard de Chardin was referring to when he wrote in The Phenomenon of Man that, “I can see a direction and a line of progress for life, a line and a direction which are in fact so well marked that I am convinced their reality will be universally admitted by the science of tomorrow”. In fact, Jeremy explains in his books that indeed the word ‘development’ will come to replace the word ‘evolution’ in biology because evolution can be, and has been, misrepresented as meaning change is undirected, meaningless and random.We also recommend chapter 5 of FREEDOM, in which Jeremy explains how the ecological niche in which bonobos have found themselves is similar to that which our ancestors found themselves in, which is why they have both been able to develop the nurturing based love-indoctrination process, which in due course led to the liberation of consciousness (see chapter 7 of FREEDOM).Ultimately Tom, we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. It establishes our worth or goodness as a species and the whole concept of good and bad disappears from our conceptualisation of ourselves. What Jeremy is putting forward is that for there to be a fundamental change in our human situation we had to understand the human condition – humans’ capacity for good and evil – from a biological perspective.I found this explanation of the human condition to be really fascinating and I will introduce people within my family and friends to get acquainted with it.
Interesting anything proven new to exist.
Hi Heiko, we recommend reading FAQ 1.13 “Is this idea original or new? / How does biologist Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition differ from other theories that recognise these elements?”, as it explains the unique significance of Jeremy’s work.
With difficulties in my life, and researching psychology, coming across this interview has made a huge difference. Thank you for such an amazing opportunity by sharing
Very much on point and very much needed time wise.
Eye opener...thankyou
Thank you for the insight and the search.
That’s exactly what happen when you fool around with mother nature ,I believe that the way we lost our paradise religion is talking about the Adam and Eve.great sin
Thank you for this information, not a moment too soon. And hopefully not to late! The healing of the riff between the conscious mind and the instinctual mind is the solution.
My being is at PEACE now. Thank you🙏💞
Very profound , and interesting. Let’s come together as the human race, that’s how we were created to live !
The fact that we all do have a conscience makes total sense to the human condition!
Yes, it does make total sense! As Jeremy Griffith explains in THE Interveiw, “As Charles Darwin said, ‘The moral sense…affords the best and highest distinction between man and the lower animals’ (The Descent of Man, 1871, ch.4). Of course, to have acquired these cooperative, selfless and loving moral instincts our distant ape ancestors must have lived cooperatively, selflessly and lovingly, otherwise how else could we have acquired them? Our ape ancestors can’t have been brutal, club-wielding, competitive and aggressive savages as we have been taught, rather they must have lived in a Garden of Eden-like state of cooperative, selfless and loving innocent gentleness.” And so if we do have these loving and cooperative instincts (the expression of which is our conscience), then it means that the source of our aggressive and selfish behaviour cannot be ‘savage instincts’ as we have been taught. We now know that our destructive behaviour is not due to savage instincts but is the result of a psychosis caused by the ‘instincts and intellect’ clash. It does all make sense now. You might be interested in Freedom Essay 21, where you can read more about how we developed our loving, moral soul or instinctive self.
Cool
Sounds Good and would Love to know more
Good on you Canute Rodney, you wont be dissapointed. If you go to the top of our homepage—HumanCondition.com—it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes registering for our free, live events with Jeremy Griffith and others and joining our popular Facebook Group. It is also worth mentioning that all Jeremy Griffith’s books are freely available on the website.
Can’t wait to hear your program.
I have belief this for a long time but you have put into words, and explained it. I felt that, at some time in our beginnings, that God had breath a soul. We are getting in our body. And from then on we were different than all other mammal. It used to be only rich people would support a thinker like Plato. When we don’t have to spend all day trying to survive, like gathering wood, food, a safe place to sleep. We can then think and contemplate our beginnings, and our soul and humanity. Thank you.
Thank you very much for your comment Cindy Ann. Yes, this information is for everyone; it is the breakthrough that every human has been striving for since the emergence of consciousness, and it redeems and rehabilitates every single human on the planet. You may be interested in some further reading on how we developed our extraordinary loving instinctive self or moral conscience or ‘soul’, which as Charles Darwin recognised, ‘affords the best and highest distinction between man and the lower animals’, which you can do in Freedom Essay 21.
Wanting to learn about the human condition
There is a feast of information here for you Pamela. Obviously start with THE Interview as it is the best introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s breakthrough explanation of the human condition. You will then find that at the top of our homepage—HumanCondition.com—it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest! This includes registering for our free, live events with Jeremy Griffith and others and joining our popular Facebook Group. If you are someone that likes to read books, you will be excited to find that all Jeremy Griffith’s books are freely available on the website.
It is incredible how selffinding can be a process that lasts forever.
Up until now real ‘self-finding’ has been an impossible, confronting task for humans; for genuine progress to be made we needed to answer the essential question of why, when the ideals are to be loving and selfless, are we so competitive and selfish? It is this question of questions that biologist Jeremy Griffith has solved with his instinct vs intellect explanation and what is unique about his work.
Interview with Freedom book author on attaining an understanding of the human condition
Thank you 🙏 and thank your team for this amazing discovery and hope people take the advantage soon. What a world it will be!
Hi Jeremy Watched yr Interview and found yr message dynamic and profound. Listening was easy and I got it straight away but had to rewind a few times to fully get you. 💯 % got you. I feel the change I am accepting myself in brilliant ❤️ love and seeing my goodness and compassion oozing from my soul connection with ❤️ love, source, universe or a supremely kind benevolent loving God ❤️ It is so freeing and I feel relieved like a burden a huge burden of shame guilt not being enough anxious about being human and prone to sin sometimes, enough...... I will never be the same it’s like a switch was flicked and I see my protection my power my purpose my loyalty was not for nought my heart is set for peace, harmony deep happiness and understanding. May God’s Glorious Kingdom come and usher in perfect peace for all mankind. Thanks for your wonderful 🏆 🥇 🏅 🏆
I kept seeing ads for this video, and finally watched just to prove that my cynicism was justified. Oops! This is entirely sincere and not dumb.
Thanks for your comment Tom, and good on you for investigating. As WTM FAQ 1.9 ‘Should people be sceptical’ explains, the absolutely astonishing claims made about Jeremy Griffith’s treatise, such as Professor Harry Prosen (former president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association) saying “I have no doubt Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race”, do warrant initial extreme scepticism, but the amazing fact is that they all withstand scrutiny. A person can begin reading the explanation and the more they read into it the more they will realise the claims are actually true, and in time become appreciated for their forthright honesty in indicating where the solution to our problems lies.
What I loved about this interview was that it was able to marry together the Darwin theory, the Apes and the Bible. This is truly a breakthrough and very impressive
Its is unfortunate that the world leaders would rather choose to have a deaf ear to such information than to ever consider it.
The truth is that this redeeming, uplifting and healing explanation of the human condition is SO liberating and SO exciting that it won’t be long be everyone realises that it is completely pointless to keep trying to compensate for their insecurity through the pursuit of power and glory. You might be interested in FAQ 1.40, which addresses the questions of ‘Aren’t the problems of the world too overwhelming to ever be fixed? / Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’. It explains that “Even those who were most committed to defensively seeking validation through gaining power and material goods, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real biological explanation of the human condition that proves our worth at the most fundamental level.”
This is the next step on intellectual and spiritual evolution. Very well presented.
amazing video!
Interesting. Conversations With God by Neale Donald Walsh speaks of this and so much more.
Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition, brings biological understanding to religious accounts of our condition, which means we can at last reconcile science and religion. For instance, as THE Interview explains, the story of Adam and Eve is a pre-scientific metaphor for the emergence of consciousness and its clash with our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts, resulting in humans becoming psychologically upset or ‘sinful’ or ‘evil’. However, significantly we can now understand, from scientific first principles, that ‘Adam and Eve’ were ‘good’ to search for knowledge, not bad or ‘evil’; we humans are actually the absolute heroes of the whole story! It establishes that we are good and not bad after all. What THE Interview presents fundamentally lifts the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race and allows us to forgive ourselves and others and finally end our psychologically troubled human condition—it couldn’t be a bigger breakthrough. You might be interested in our FAQs about religion, especially 6.2 ‘What is God’ and 6.3 ‘Does this understanding undermine religion’. Also there are Jeremy’s Freedom Essays 38 – 41 about the demysification of religion which are absolutely fascinating.
Very brave and courageous!
Need more information ,?
Hi Allen, at the top of our homepage—HumanCondition.com—it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest! This includes registering for our free, live events with Jeremy Griffith and others and joining our popular Facebook Group. It is also worth mentioning that all Jeremy Griffith’s books are freely available on the website.
This philosophy of thought can be understood more than the course in miracles because we live with science…I would love this to be acknowledged by science because this is happening and we are here to forgive and be fearless and quit giving our power away to science.
Yes Debi, there is a huge difference between this understanding and the ‘Course in Miracles’, which this comment on Video/Freedom Essay 9 by subscriber Lesley Davies illustrates: “I can now see why A Course in Miracles didn’t work for me. I completed the 365 day course three years running to try and heal myself from deep depression and anxiety. After reading essay 15 [Freedom Essay 15: ‘How your life can immediately be transformed’] and studying Freedom it becomes clear that without the explanation of WHY we are so upset ACIM can only act as a sticky plaster with the ’scream’ still going on underneath.”And, again, you are quite right about the current state of science; as FAQ 1.2 explains, unable to confront the human condition, science has been mechanistic and reductionist, and what’s more, has denied the existence of our psychologically troubled human condition, blaming our selfish behaviour on ‘savage instincts’ within us. And that is where the human race has been stalled, waiting in an increasingly distressed state for the real explanation for our psychologically troubled human condition that will finally make sense of the riddle of human life. That is, until now—because that human-mind-liberating, psychosis-relieving REAL explanation has at last been delivered!Interesting
I am interested in what you could potentially teach me in the spectrum of the *new
While elements of the human condition have been recognised by certain thinkers throughout history, what is unique about Jeremy Griffith’s synthesis is he actually solves the dilemma of the human condition by clarifying the difference between the way the intellect and instincts work. That is the great breakthrough his work represents (see Freedom Essay 4 on other thinkers who have recognised instinct and intellect elements involved in creating the human condition).
Very interesting brakethrough. Never believed Darwins idea of humans appearance and development. It seems I am also one of those few that escaped the Matrix and the illness described 🤔 I have been seeing all this human ill behaviour as Ilness but the question is how you all treat those people if they don’t acknowledge they need help and treatment . I am looking forward to get hold of the book .
Thanks for your comment Rosie. While you can purchase copies of FREEDOM in all good bookstores including Amazon, we just wanted to let you know that electronic versions of FREEDOM are also freely available on our homepage www.humancondition.com.With regard to how this healing information will catch on when everyone is so determined to deny that there is anything wrong, you might be interested in FAQ 1.40, which explains that “Even those who were most committed to defensively seeking validation through gaining power and material goods, including those entrenched in positions of power, will quickly realise how empty and obsolete that strategy is now that we have the fully accountable, psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real biological explanation of the human condition that proves our worth at the most fundamental level.”I also wanted to draw your attention to the ‘ship at sea’ position Jeremy talks about which you may or may not relate to. Freedom Essay 30 titled Resignation explains that some adolescents refuse to properly resign and take up the strategy of denial of the issue of the human condition that almost everybody else does. They courageously keep facing it, refuse to ‘pull into a port’, as it were, and escape the storms of confrontation with the real horror of the human condition, which does produce a torturous existence.Evolution is not new but our capacity to grasp it is. This is an eye-opener. Thank you for enhancing our minds.
Excited to know more
Thanks for your comment Denzil. At the top of our homepage—HumanCondition.com—it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest! This includes registering for our free, live events with Jeremy Griffith and others and joining our popular Facebook Group.
Enjoy this and listening to it
Very enlightening interview, so what suggestions are there for pregnant women and newborn babies??
Thank you for your question Rene. Firstly THE Interview is a summary presentation which outlines what Jeremy Griffith presents in his definitive book FREEDOM so we recommend all newcomers further their interest by reading FREEDOM and also watching our introductory video series which expands on all that is explained (all freely available on our homepage.)Secondly this explanation opens up an entirely new way of thinking about humans, which is exciting, but it does present a huge paradigm shift in how we view ourselves and the world. For instance, we now know that we had to search for knowledge, ultimately sufficient knowledge to explain the human condition — why we are divisively rather than cooperatively behaved — but that this search corrupted us, which was the price we had to pay. This point about our fundamental responsibility to search for knowledge even though it was upsetting and corrupting, allows us to appreciate that our upset is a heroic state, and that upset includes our compromised ability to love — to love ourselves, each other, the next generation and the world. You can read more about the impact of the human condition on our ability to nurture in chapter 8:16C of FREEDOM. So the human condition has affected everything, but what this breakthrough understanding means to all of us, and what makes it so relieving, is the macro truth that we no longer have to be burdened by the fundamental question of whether we are good or bad because our fundamental goodness has now been scientifically established, and this extraordinary relief and security then flows into every aspect of human life, including the all-important task of raising children. We think you might be interested in reading FAQ 1.5 ‘Why is this understanding important to my life’.A Big BRAVO !!!
Amazing men at a time like this, very brave
Very interesting assimilation of collective knowledge - interested in your thoughts around the physiological processes which underpin the psychological ones. The ideal state of being inside the womb and the process of being born or expelled from the garden of Eden? The impact of parallel processes and our birth experiences. Is birth our first psychological crisis as suggested by Otto Rank?
As ‘THE Interview’ explains, to avoid the terrifying issue of the corrupted state of the human condition, human-condition-avoiding, resigned humans necessarily had to find some way of denying that our species did once live in a cooperative and loving state because then there would be no original innocent state to have become corrupted and therefore no guilt or shame. One way of doing this was to dismiss any suggestion or mention of our species having once lived in a cooperative and loving Edenic Golden Age as nothing more than an expression of nostalgia for the warmth, comfort and security of infancy or even the womb, which is the so-called paradise-as-infancy theory (see for example, par 184 of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM https://www.humancondition.com/freedom-further-evidence-of-the-three-fundamental-truths/#par184). Because I am not overly familiar with Rank’s work, I am not sure if he is using the ‘ideal state within the womb’ to deny our cooperative past, or just identifying the impact of the trauma of birth and how it creates anxiety later in life, which is certainly true enough. What I can say with certainty is that while birth trauma does deeply affect us, Jeremy has explained that the greater trauma, and the reason we are now so alienated that birth is so traumatic for newborns, is the psychosis caused by the human condition. We suggest that the more you digest Jeremy’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation, the more you will realise just how accountable and explanatory it is in getting to the source of all humanity’s psychological upset and trauma, and just as importantly, healing it. You might be particularly interested in FAQ1.35 which explains how the macro understanding of humanity’s fundamental worth is the key to real therapy for all humans https://www.humancondition.com/wtm-faq-does-this-heal-anxiety/.
Eye opening interview! I’m looking forward to learning more!! Thank you for sharing!!!
Very interesting
Brilliant!
For me the human condition has and always will be the me first model... Me first, then my family, then my neighborhood, then my community, then my town or city, then my province or state, then my country then the continent then the world. We assume one nation just has a better breed of citizens, which isn’t so - they just have more resources than the rest of us. Here in Canada people are polite to one another because we have more than what we need, we are not all fighting over 1 fish in the river, or one deer to feed our families, we have an abundance of food, water and other resources...take that away and you will see all politeness go straight out the window! Polite society is a very thin veneer that is becoming worn as we are tried in this crisis The me first - take what I need at any cost to society model of every psychopath for themselves has to change if we are ever to get beyond the “ human condition”
Thank you for your thoughts Carrie anne. We suggest the more you absorb what is presented in THE Interview the more you will realise that it explains humans’ psychological upset (our selfish ‘me first’ mentality) is not a product of unchangeable survival animal instincts within us but the result of a universal psychosis, caused by the clash between our instinct and intellect, and a psychosis is changeable as it can be healed through understanding. See FAQ 1.6 summaries how this understanding ends the ‘me-first model’ by explaining the human condition, and in doing so ends human suffering at its source and unites the human race.’
This was fascinating to listen to, it reminded me a little of how Gene Roddenberry wrote in his TV series Star Trek , the whole of Earth working together as one, co-operating, caring, trying to bring about peace. Unfortunatley humans don’t have a good track record and fall back on war and cruelty, being kind and respectful is often looked upon as weakness and easy prey for the wicked. We have a real battle in the coming centuries if we don’t want to annilate the planet and everything on it.
THE Interview explains that the idea of the whole of the Earth working together as one is no longer some pseudo idealistic vision of utopia because it is now based on a first-principle biological explanation for why humans haven’t been cooperative which actually brings an end to that divisive condition, see FAQ 1.3 ‘What is biologist Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition?’. Also Yvonne explanation of the human condition does open up a long-forbidden area for humans and that can make it initially difficult to access. So we suggest re-watching the presentation and FAQ 1.16 is most helpful in explaining this ‘deaf effect’ discussion of this subject can at first cause.
A whole new level of thought, I am intrigued, fascinated and feeling hopeful. Thank you
I am very pleased and grateful for your willingness to share this with whom ever, bless you. Is it possible to buy the book on audio like Amazon. I had a stroke and only understand when it’s read to me?
Thank you, Stella, and yes, THE Interview is freely available in audio form on our homepage here (see option 5), and can be purchased as an Audiobook for free from Amazon here. I might mention that Jeremy Griffith’s book Transform Your Life And Save The World (which provides a summary of his definitive treatise, FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition) is also available in audio on this website here (see option 4), and on Amazon here, should you be interested in this book as well, Stella.
How enlightening for the world.
Thank you. We all need to hear and understand that🙏
Very interesting interview I try to get this book here in Italy Thank you
It’s wonderful you now want to read FREEDOM Chiressi! And you don’t have to wait as it are freely available right HERE on our homepage to read online, download or print your own copy. You will also see the booklet version of THE Interview and Jeremy Griffith’s other key books are also free at this link. You can also download the free Kindle versions or purchase hard copies from Amazon. Hard copies are also available at other good bookstores.Jeremy’s books and essays are being translated into many languages around the world, thanks to wonderful efforts from the WTM’s ever-expanding global network of support. Unfortunately we don’t yet have any Italian translations but our Translations page shows all languages that are available. Also people can watch THE Interview (and all the videos on our website) using the closed captions or subtitles function in their native language (just click on the ‘cc’ icon at the bottom of the video player/window).I think this is a product of ‘wishful thinking’! I am also a biologist. The evolution of consciousness and emotions has been gradual and full of strife. It was not a sudden transformation but took hundreds of thousands of years. We are now a complex neurotic mix influenced by our primal urges by usually managed by our intellect because we need to be social.
THE Interview explains exactly that Julian, that the development of consciousness was gradual, occurring over millions of years, and full of impasses (Jeremy discusses how consciousness developed in Part 3 of THE Interview and refers the audience to chapter 7 of his definitive book FREEDOM for a more in-depth explanation of how we humans became fully conscious; see also FAQ 5.4). This does represent a huge paradigm shift, and so it can take some time to absorb, but we suggest that the more you digest the instinct vs intellect explanation, the more accountable you will realise it is. What becomes clear is that we are not such a destructive and divisive species because of the influence of primal instincts that the conscious mind has to control in order to be social, but because we are a psychologically upset species. As Jeremy so accurately says in THE Interview, “words used to describe our human behaviour such as egocentric, arrogant, inspired, depressed, deluded, pessimistic, optimistic, artificial, hateful, cynical, mean, sadistic, immoral, brilliant, guilt-ridden, evil, psychotic, neurotic and alienated, all recognise the involvement of OUR species’ fully conscious thinking mind. They demonstrate that there is a psychological dimension to our behaviour; that we don’t suffer from a genetic-opportunism-driven ‘animal condition’, but a conscious-mind-based, psychologically troubled HUMAN CONDITION.”With regard to the clash between instinct and intellect, you might be interested in pars 247-248 of the online version of FREEDOM which provide an overview of how the emerging conscious mind must have come into conflict with our naturally selected instincts.Basically, as is explained in THE Interview, saying our selfish and aggressive behaviour is a manifestation of primal selfish instincts was just a convenient excuse while we searched for the psychosis-addressing-and-solving real explanation of our divisive behaviour (see FAQ 1.29 ‘is the human condition biological or psychological’).Obviously mindblowing
“How does your work bring about the psychological rehabilitation of the human race?”... It doesn’t! It may be an interesting book, but a book does not bring about the psychological rehabilitation of the human race. Not even of one person. Come on!
As WTM FAQ 1.9 ‘Should people be sceptical’ explains, the absolutely astonishing claims made about Jeremy Griffith’s treatise, such as Professor Harry Prosen (former president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association) saying “I have no doubt Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race”, do warrant initial extreme scepticism, but the amazing fact is that they all withstand scrutiny. A person can begin reading the explanation and the more they read into it the more they will realise the claims are actually true, and in time become appreciated for their forthright honesty in indicating where the solution to our problems lies.What is unique about Jeremy’s work is it at last answers the essential question of our so-called ‘good and evil’-stricken human condition—why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish, so much so that we are destroying ourselves and our world? To summarise how this rehabilitates the human race: now that we have the real defence and reinforcement of our fundamental goodness, all these artificial defences and reinforcements of gaining power, fame, fortune and glory are obsoleted, they are no longer needed. Having this core mystery and problem about human behaviour solved ends all the conflict and suffering in human life at its source, and provides the now urgently needed road map for the complete rehabilitation and transformation of our lives and world which is explained in Part 4 of THE Interview. Also see FAQ 1.5 and our Transformation page which includes many affirmations from people about how this understanding has transformed their lives and their families lives.I got goosebumps during the introduction that was enough.
Ground breaking understanding of human condition.My hope that this understanding will help result in better interaction amongst human beings.
Absolutely Amazing and so very Bibical to me and now I truly understand my Bible Studies as Jeremy has just explained it all!! I will purchase his book! If this could be taught at School from year 7 up as a subject “Understanding the Human Conditions!” Our future generations will change and they will live the way, the truth and the light John14-16.. all of man’s questions of life are answered in this verse!! What a wonder world it will be forever!!!
Thank you for your wonderful feedback Florie. Yes Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition, brings biological understanding to religious accounts of our condition, which means we can at last truly understand religion and reconcile it with science. In fact this understanding is so powerful it actually reconciles all the polarities of human life. To quote Jeremy’s book FREEDOM chapter 4: “Yes, the instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition makes sense of and reconciles all the unresolved manifestations of the polarities of the human situation—‘good’ vs ‘evil’, idealism or ‘God’ vs human’s non-ideal existence, religion vs science, holism vs mechanism, altruism vs egotism, communism vs capitalism, conscience vs conscious, and so on—thus ameliorating or healing, and finally ending, the psychologically upset, divisive way we have been living!” So what you say is so true; ‘what a wonder world it will be forever!!!’In terms of Christianity and Christ, Jeremy considers the Bible to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing all the truth about human life albeit from that pre-science view, and he has written about Christ’s life and its phenomenal importance in humanity’s journey in Freedom Essay 39. Our FAQs about religion are also absolutely fascinating.Good job
I can’t wait to listen
This is an interesting topic which explains a lot about understanding the human condition. Will enjoy hearing more and also getting the book to read. Thank you for freely giving us this information.
What about people who are termed psychopaths?
At last we can understand where humans’ psychopathic, what historically has been termed ‘evil’, behaviour comes from. As THE Interview explains humans are born with loving moral instincts but we all now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition and, in the extreme, that psychologically conflicted upset state produces extremely destructive behaviour. Of course this breakthrough explanation doesn’t condone or sanction the horrendous attrocities humans can commit rather, through bringing compassionate understanding to the source of humans’ upset behaviour, it gives us the power to ameliorate and thus subside and ultimately eliminate it, see FAQ 1.38 Aren’t some people just born psychopathic, or even ‘evil’? / How does this explanation rehabilitate people capable of ‘evil’ behaviour? / Does this condone ‘evil’ behaviour?
We need to be hungry for more of this way learning.
Whilst I agree with a lot of what has been forward with instinctive behaviour being contrary to a reasoned view. Though, I don’t think we can completely divorce instinct from reason. In this, I am thinking particularly of the instinct for survival, which would appear to be the Achilles heel of this theory. This, when being threatened induces fear and is common to all animal life above a certain level which will bring about a reaction to fight or flee. It is only on very rare occasions, such as when Captain Oates (Scott expedition to the South Pole 1911), realising that he was seriously incapacitated to the extent it was reducing survival chances of his colleagues, left the tent and deliberately walked to his death in a blizzard. This survival instinct would appear to be a root cause of many of the unsavoury aspects of modern man emerging in the forms of greed and selfishness.
Key to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that humans’ primary instinctive orientation is not ‘must-reproduce-your-genes selfishness’ but rather to behave selflessly. While it is true that altruistic, unconditionally selfless genetic traits are self-eliminating, and therefore seemingly cannot develop in animals, as Jeremy Griffith explains in Part 3 of THE Interview the selfish process of natural selection was able to create loving selflessness in our forebears through nurturing (Freedom Essay 21 on our World Transformation Movement’s website, and chapter 5 of FREEDOM explain this ‘love-indoctrination’ process, as Jeremy has termed it, more fully).While we do still possess very primitive reflexes, such as for ‘fight or flight’, beneath our altruistic, unconditionally selfless instincts, these primitive reflexes do not control our behaviour beyond very narrow scenarios or threats. The truth is that our angry, competitive and egocentric behaviour is not instinctive in any way; it is the result of a psychosis. Basically, as is explained in THE Interview, saying our selfish and aggressive behaviour is a manifestation of survival or selfish instincts was just a convenient excuse while we searched for the psychosis-addressing-and-solving real explanation of our divisive behaviour (see FAQ 1.29 ‘is the human condition biological or psychological’).We need truth and freedom
Amen thank you love truth
I will listen to the interview again (and again) as I would like to reconcile the message from Jeremy Griffiths with the story of the Garden of Eden and the teachings of Christ (and the prophets of other religions) and the forgiveness of sins.
Great to hear you will explore this further Malcolm. Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition, brings biological understanding to religious accounts of our condition, which means we can at last reconcile science and religion. For instance, as THE Interview explains, the story of Adam and Eve is a pre-scientific metaphor for the emergence of consciousness and its clash with our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts, resulting in humans becoming psychologically upset or ‘sinful’ or ‘evil’. However, significantly we can now understand, from scientific first principles, that ‘Adam and Eve’ were ‘good’ to search for knowledge, not bad or ‘evil’; we humans are actually the absolute heroes of the whole story! It establishes that we are good and not bad after all. What THE Interview presents fundamentally lifts the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race and allows us to forgive ourselves and others and finally end our psychologically troubled human condition—it couldn’t be a bigger breakthrough. You might be interested in our FAQs about religion, especially 6.2 ‘What is God’ and 6.3 ‘Does this understanding undermine religion’. Also there are Jeremy’s Freedom Essays 38 – 41 about the demysification of religion which are absolutely fascinating.
Enlightening, simple once heard. I advocate for parents to take the time, have the support & be able to intuitively raise their offspring 💗
Mind extending
I have an older sibling who spent over 25 years of his life as a very active member of the Socialist movement in Australia. In that time we have had countless discussions about how the system would be structured and how people would be expected to change their lives. Love was never mentioned. Never.
Love couldn’t be profoundly discussed in general because, as THE Interview mentions, love is unconditional selflessness, and that is a truth we couldn’t safely admit until we could explain the human condition—explain WHY our human behaviour has often been so competitive, selfish and aggressive, so seemingly unloving. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. Socialism attempted to bring about a cooperative society without first getting to the bottom of the human condition, but what Jeremy is putting forward is that for there to be a fundamental change in our human situation we had to understand the human condition – humans’ capacity for good and evil – from a biological perspective. We recommend our FAQs about politics which explain how this all-reconciling understanding of human behaviour brings an end to the necessary but ugly world of politics.
Brillant, I need to listen again and again to fully comprehend since my native languages are Spanish and French. Thank you so much to you both.
Very mind expanding
What the biological operates irrespective of the environment you’d only have to look at all the Geographical insanities of religion to see that argument wouldn’t go far!
It does take time to digest, but THE Interview puts forward that all humans are psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated as a result of the instinct vs intellect clash, even though it may manifest itself in slightly different ways depending on the culture or environment. Our FAQs about religion explain the important role that religions have played during humanity’s great but corrupting search for knowledge.
Most interesting!
I have been saying this for years that self condemnation is what imprisoned our minds & souls
What is new and so critically important about what Jeremy Griffith has presented is the biological understanding of WHY we condemned ourselves! Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work. This explains that the original source of all the condemnation was our pre-established moral instincts criticising our intellect’s necessary search for knowledge, a criticism that caused us to become psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated. This redeeming understanding is the unique breakthrough of biologist Jeremy Griffith’s work which at last relieves the burden of self-condemnation and brings peace to our divided selves, see FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’
It was fascinating. I have 3 pages of notes. I definitely need to see this a few more times and read the book Freedom. Thank You Jeremy Griffith you are amazing. I hope I spelled your name properly. You made me excited again about life and the reality that I need more education even at 63. Your description of the Bonobo Apes warmed my heart. You are truly a genius. I’m sorry I forgot the name of the host of the show but he was wonderful and well educated on the topic to do an intelligent interview. I was quite impressed. I look forward to learning more so I too can explain your beliefs to my people.
Cooperative and loving behavior service in the end is a selfish goal. Sometimes we fight, sometimes we bond. It is all fundamentally driven by survival.
Fight or flight is necessary for survival. The primary purpose of instinct is to ensure survival. We need to work with what we’ve got.
Key to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that humans’ primary instinctive orientation is not selfish, must-reproduce-our-genes 'survival’ but rather, to behave selflessly. While it is true that altruistic, unconditionally selfless genetic traits are self-eliminating, and therefore seemingly cannot develop in animals, as Jeremy Griffith explains in Part 3 of THE Interview the selfish process of natural selection was able to create loving selflessness in our forebears through nurturing (Freedom Essay 21 on our World Transformation Movement’s website, and chapter 5 of FREEDOM explain this ‘love-indoctrination’ process, as Jeremy has termed it, more fully).So while it is a common misconception that selfish instincts are the source of our selfish and aggressive behaviour, as is also explained in THE Interview, that was just a convenient excuse while we searched for the psychosis-addressing-and-solving real explanation of our divisive behaviour. However, as host Craig Conway summarises, “we don’t need the convenient excuse anymore that we have some kind of savage animal instincts because we have the real explanation of our conscious-mind-based psychologically troubled human condition!”Amazing, I’m not educated in this type of work, but it was explained so clearly I started to understand what you were telling me, I’m going to listen again and probably again, thank you very much, one more thing I really think a load fell from my shoulders
What wonderful feedback Fred, thank you. Yes re-watching THE Interview, and watching the video series that follows it, is exactly what we recommend. Also Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM is a must! All these publications are freely available on our homepage HumanCondition.com which provides the perfect guide to pursue your interest.Many express the same sentiment of a load being lifted from their shoulders, in fact you can see from the daily ecstatic responses on our homepage people everywhere are so relieved to finally be able to make sense of human life!! Jeremy’s work fundamentally lifts the weight of shame, the ‘burden of guilt’, from our shoulders; it establishes that we are good and not bad after all by resolving the conflict between our intellect and instinct and brings about the transformation of our lives and the world—see our Transformation page.I will have to download the book
Hi Rene, you can download Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM along with the booklet version of THE Interview and his other key books here on our homepage. You can also download the free Kindle version from Amazon. Otherwise you can purchase hard copies from Amazon or other good bookstores.
For 81 years I’ve watched the decline of earth’s human Family fall deeper into individualistic, egotistitic, self-centred and so competitive driven behaviour. My supremely intelligent Son took his life in July last year. In his last note, he apologised for his choice but although he so loved his wife and Sons, he couldn’t make sense of this life. So wish we had had this profound and sense making insights and hopeful answers before that Tragedy. I gives me some hope for mankind and the Planet.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and devastating experience Anne. It is heartbreaking to hear of the terribly tragic loss of your beloved son and we send you and your family all the love in the world. The human condition has caused such unthinkable pain and suffering so we are thankful you have found this understanding and that is it giving you hope for humanity. For us all, but especially those who have experienced great loss, it is deeply comforting to know that our species has been on the most heroic journey from ignorance to enlightenment and that every human life is extraordinarily significant and meaningful. This quote from Jeremy Griffith’s book A Species In Denial (which you can read online here) captures so powerfully the magnificence of the human journey: “Now that it is possible to understand the human condition, understand that humans were actually good and not bad, were indeed part of ‘God’s’ great plan—a profound part of the development of order of matter on Earth—it can be understood that all human effort since time immemorial has been meaningful. Humans can now understand that each and every human life is extraordinarily significant and that their efforts on Earth, the real essence of their being, do carry on and endure...Sir Laurens van der Post described how humans carry on in an even greater way after their physical death when he wrote: ‘We make a great mistake when we think that people whose lives have been intimately woven into our own, cease to influence us when they die…The dead become part of the dynamics of our spirit, of the basic symbolism of our minds. They join the infinite ranks of the past, as vast as the hosts of the future, and so much greater than our own little huddle of people in the present’.”
GOOD WORK KEEP GOING
AMAZING WISDOM <3
Looking forward to this. We all need to open our eyes and mind a little more
Need to watch it again?
The long-awaited arrival of the truth about our human condition produces a paradigm shift in our thinking—a great deal of sweeping change to adjust to in fact—so re-watching THE Interview, and then watching the video/essay series that follows it, is exactly what we recommend. Also all our key publications are freely available on our homepage HumanCondition.com which provides the perfect guide to help with this adjustment. At the top of our homepage you can see the ecstatic responses to THE Interview is receiving daily so it is well worth re-watching!
The interview lifted my heart as I never have understood how human history could be so cruel. Now I found out that the missing link in my mind was the evolution of consciousness I did not know about. I worked a lot in psychotherapy on my shadows but felt left alone in my environment and in not understanding the world events: the wars, political sytems, the greed and disrespect. Oh, how I would like to feel relieved of the shame of being human.
Thank you for your very thoughtful comment, Barbara. Yes, as THE Interview explains, our conscious mind’s defiance of our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts resulted in the angry, egocentric and alienated upset state of our human condition; as you say we became “so cruel”, capable of “wars”, “greed and disrespect”, and that cruelty has been a feature of our history. But we can now understand that this upset was the price humans had to pay for searching for knowledge and with that understanding the guilt and shame we have carried for departing from our all-loving instincts is finally relieved. Jeremy Griffith’s work fundamentally lifts the shame, the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race; it establishes that we are good and not bad after all by resolving the conflict between our intellect and instinct and making it possible to “own our own shadow”, as Jung was forever pointing out (see paragraph 107 in THE Interview).You may also be interested in FAQ 1.34 on ‘How does understanding the human race’s condition help with an individual’s depression and psychosis?’ It’s written by Professor Harry Prosen, a former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, who writes that “the beauty of Griffith’s treatise is that the healing starts at the macro level of the universal human condition; the healing of the shame and blame that the whole human race has suffered from…It brings the greater context and love to all human psychosis and suffering, and then, from under the umbrella of that safe position, everyone can gradually work inwards to their particular experience of all the imperfections in human life that have now, finally, been made sense of.”Fascinating
Very interesting, but in my humble opinion, not new but age old wisdom.
Hi Sylvia, we recommend reading FAQ 1.13 “Is this idea original or new? / How does biologist Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition differ from other theories that recognise these elements?”, as it explains the unique significance of Jeremy’s work.
I am so impressed by the WTM and Dr Griffith for their incredible generosity in sharing priceless information for free. May the Lord grant you the power and might to overcome the force of evil that’s ruling the world, and us.
Thank you Hajira for your appreciative comment. At the top of our homepage — HumanCondition.com — it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes registering for our free, live events with Jeremy Griffith and others and joining our popular Facebook Group. Also our Transformation page (which follows on from Part 4 of THE Interview) is about the Transformed Way of Living or how we live in support of this understanding. To quote “We now have the completely redeeming, uplifting and healing biological understanding of the core mystery and problem about human behaviour of our so-called ‘good and evil’-stricken human condition—thus ending all the conflict and suffering in human life at its source, and providing the now urgently needed road map for the complete rehabilitation and transformation of our lives and world!”You may also be interested in our FAQs about religion. These summarise how explanation of the human condition demystifies religion by bringing biological understanding to pre-scientific concepts.Where can I find your book?
Hi Katherine, you can purchase hard copies of The Interview, FREEDOM and Jeremy’s other books at bookstores, including Amazon. They are also all available free of charge to read online or download here on our website.
Wish this can be translated in French for all Canadian French people, so we can share with our relations and family. Ce serait merveilleux que cette entrevue soit traduite en français pour nous les Canadiens [It would be wonderful if this interview were translated into French for us Canadians (translated from French)].
As well as being able to watch THE Interview with French subtitles you can access it, along with our entire Introductory Video series, in French on our Translations page. Also, the WTM Centres in Nice and Switzerland present their websites in French, and also feature these French translations. You can contact these Centres via the contact page on their websites.
Interesting
I enjoyed this interview and the explanations it gave explaining the human condition. The material is logical. But I have to say there are questions. For one, this is an intellectual or academic explanation of human behavior, which begs the question about human emotions, a primary driver of all of our actions. I think its a bit simplistic to say if we can understand our motivations for the behaviors we as humans currently exhibit then we can change them. My experience and study into human behavior has also shown be that for a person to change their behavior, even after they’ve understood intellectually the reasons for their behavior, such change will not occur unless they are first motivated (have a reason) to do so and more importantly, a belief they can do so. If there is any doubt in an individual that change is possible, then I fear that change will never take place. The premise of nurturing positive consciousness from birth is also valid and understandable, but here again, if the parent involved is not of the understanding or motivation to raise a loving peaceful child, it is unlikely they will. Think of a Putin or the CEO of a Mega Corporation raising a child to succeed in this world. The likelihood of them intellectually understanding the concepts presented here and instilling them into their new offspring is very unlikely. But, that said I do believe, and hope someday, people will evolve to a higher plane of understanding and living with each other in more peaceful ways. But I’m not sure it will come about simply through science and academia, so much as it will come from lessons learned the hard way which seems to be the way life teaches us best and History shows we are slow learners. Only time will tell, I suppose, and hope my doubts are wrong about mankind. I just don’t think its as simple as saying “all you need is love.”
What is so extraordinary about Jeremy Griffith’s treatise is that it logically and accountably defends human selfishness and egocentricity. It is that defence of our ‘dark side’, through finding the good reason that we had to defy our instincts, that means all our defensive behaviours (our anger, egocentricity and alienation) are now redundant. We no longer need them because we have the real defense for why we had to defy our instincts. Certainly it will take some generations for all our hurt and trauma to subside, but people can immediately choose to behave in line with a set of principles any time they want – they do it all the time in religions (although the ‘change of heart’ this information allows is based rational scientific knowledge, not faith). And because it is a rational, accountable, scientific explanation, everyone will eventually take it up. So while it may take time for everyone to access this breakthrough (because the human condition has historically been such a fearful, off-limits topic), once this catches on through people recognising the importance of it and supporting it, the infectious enthusiasm and selfless love it liberates will spread like wildfire.