Comments on THE Interview

Interested to learn more about humanity.

Thank you for you for your lovely comment, Jose. All we would add is that while Jeremy Griffith’s work doesn’t contradict a belief in God or Christianity, it does bring biological understanding to all those pre-scientific concepts. Our FAQs about religion include FAQ 6.2 ‘What is God’ and FAQ 6.3 ‘Does this undermine religion/God’.

Certainly humanity has been matriarchal during its history, however what is being proposed here is not simply a return to that state. What is explained in chapter 8:11B of FREEDOM is that humanity necessarily became patriarchal when the priority became defeating the threat of ignorance from our instinctive self against our conscious mind. However, through explaining the very good reason why our intellect had to defy our instincts, it makes redundant our defensive behaviours of anger, egocentricity and alienation, allowing us at last to become genuinely gender neutral. You might be interested in FAQ 8.1 How does the explanation of the human condition reconcile men and women?

Hi Bernadette, it certainly is the 11th hour, but as Jeremy Griffith explains, once this breakthrough explanation takes off, it will turn that dire situation around, and very quickly, see FAQ 1.6. We also recommend reading Jeremy’s Freedom Essays 55-58 as they focus on this issue of ‘Do we fail or do we make it?’. These essays present a fearlessly honest analysis of the state of the world followed by how the extraordinary transforming power of this understanding can bring real peace to ourselves and neighbours, and save the world. And in fact, what people discover as they digest this information is that it actually represents the fulfilment of a time that all the great faiths looked forward to when we could actually explain ourselves, defend our ‘dark side’, and thus bring about the loving world that we have all longed for; a “heaven” on Earth if you like! Jeremy’s work simply brings biological understanding to religion’s pre-scientific descriptions of our human condition (see our FAQs about religion).

Jeremy Griffith’s work explains that issues such as overpopulation; environmental destruction; resource depletion; the turmoil and conflict between races, countries, religions; material inequality; and depression are merely symptoms of a deeper problem and will not fundamentally change at all until we solve this dilemma of the human condition—our capacity for ‘good’ and ‘evil’—and bring self-understanding to the human situation. This interview provides the ideal summary presentation to watch and we also recommmend FAQ 1.6 ‘Why does understanding of the human condition solve everything?’

Keep listening Ken as Part 4 of THE Interview, titled ‘How does the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible actually occur?’, does present the answer to how this understanding allows us to transform our lives. It explains that it will take a number of generations for the upset within us to be completely healed but it also stresses importantly we can be immediately free of its effects. Certainly there is habituation to overcome and humans do find change difficult but at last we can understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because we have the first principle science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it. So instead of being focused on power, fame, fortune and glory, all our energies will be freed to truly work together on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering and save our world. How this healing is immediately open to us all is summarised in FAQ 1.5 and FAQ 1.40 addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’.

Wonderful to have your interest Michele. Electronic copies of Jeremy Grifith’s books are immediately available for free here on our homepage. This includes his definitive book FREEDOM and THE Interview. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon, where you can also purchase a hardcopy if you’d prefer.

It is true that upset ‘accumulates’ in the sense that someone born into a world that is already upset, will be traumatised and psychologically upset by that ‘historical’ upset, and then in turn pass that upset on to the next generation and so on. So the accumulation of upset is a compounding situation. You might be interested in FAQ 1.37 ‘How much of our upset is caused by our own search for knowledge and how much is caused by the accumulated upset already in the world?’ And it is also true that we have been living with the upset state of the human condition for so long that the human race is now highly adapted to upset, but that doesn’t mean that with understanding of the human condition now found we won’t be able to live free of upset, see FAQ 1.5. And finally, you might also find FAQ 1.30 ‘Is upset so engrained in our DNA now that we’ll never be free of it?’ most interesting.

What we’ve said in our advertising is that all the problems we’re experiencing on this planet, aside from natural phenomenon, are caused by humans’ psychological upset which is the result of the human condition. For a nutshell explanation see FAQ 1.3.

Thank Paulo for your thoughts. The question screaming to be answered is WHY when the universal ideals are to be loving and selfless, are we so competitive and selfish—such that we seek to dominate others and are unable to love ourselves, others and our world? It is this eternal question of the human condition that Jeremy Griffith has answered and why his work is heralded as the great breakthrough that can save the world—see FAQ 1.6 ‘Why does understanding of the human condition solve everything?’

Great to have your interest Ryan. Yes at last Jeremy Griffith explains WHY this clash between our instincts and intellect occurred and how that unavoidably produced our divisive, competitive and aggressive human condition. Being able to understand the nature of this clash at last brings peace to our divided selves and, as you say, we can decide to not live out all our selfishness. Now our upset state is explained and defended, we can safely stop denying the human condition in ourselves and the world and bring love or forgiveness to our dark side because we can understand that becoming upset was an immensely heroic state, not a shameful one. To quote Jeremy from Part 4 of this interview: “the good news, and this is very important, is that while it will take a number of generations to heal all the upset in us humans, everyone can immediately live free of their upset…In fact, to continue using the old artificial defences of retaliation, denial and the search for relieving power, fame, fortune and glory when our fundamental goodness has been established is not only clearly pointless but also unnecessarily destructive of ourselves, everyone around us and our planet. That way of living is now completely obsoleted, finished with.” And as Craig Conway then summed it up “our artificial ways of reinforcing ourselves are obsoleted by the real reinforcement of ourselves. One way of living ends, a new one begins, free of the human condition—phew, thank God for that!!”

Thank you for your comment Rodney. For other’s interest our FAQ 1.20 outlines ‘What scientific evidence is there for this explanation’ and the outstanding commendations Jeremy Griffith’s work has received from extremely eminent scientists and thinkers can be seen here on our homepage.

It’s wonderful to have your interest Edwin. Audios, and many other formats, of Jeremy Griffith’s key books (including THE Interview) are available HERE on our homepage . Just click ‘Get your copy for FREE!’ to see all the formats and translations that are available. Also, all the hundreds of audios of most of our books, essays and videos are now in the WTM App which you can download for free and there is no sign in required. Just search ‘World Transformation Movement’ in the App Store on your device. If you would like any more information please contact us via our contact facility.

I totally agree with you. Mr. Griffith said that there was harmony before the fall. What started all this enmity in the human race was when the human race decided to choose love and knowledge without God their createor. History proves itself time and time again that Love and knowledge and Love without God brings enmity and turmoil in the human race. How we return to that true Love and harmony is return to the one who is love himself for this is how we know how to truly love. Knowledge is not bad, but wisdom which is knowing how to use that knowledge should be our ultimate goal and this comes through having standards that guide us into wisdom. That standard is Gods word which is knowledge that guides us into harmony and love not enmity and turmoil.

While thinkers throughout history have touched on elements of the human condition in their thinking, ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. We suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ which explains the unique significance of Jeremy Griffith’s work.

Thank you for your appreciative comment Helen, and it is wonderful to see how interesting you are finding this explanation of the human condition. We just wanted to draw your attention to the ‘ship at sea’ position Jeremy talks about which you may or may not relate to. Freedom Essay 30 titled Resignation explains that some adolescents refuse to properly resign and take up the strategy of denial of the issue of the human condition that almost everybody else does. They courageously keep facing it, refuse to ‘pull into a port’, as it were, and escape the storms of confrontation with the real horror of the human condition, which does produce an honest, although torturous existence.

The human condition has caused so much pain and trauma it is almost unimaginable. It can be very difficult to absorb, but we suggest that in time you will see that all the terrible aspects of humanity have actually been a result of the human condition – we can now understand humans’ psychological upset was the price humans had to pay for searching for knowledge and that the human story presents the greatest, most heroic story ever told. We can at last understand the source of our upset and bring great compassion and kindness to ourselves and others and, most significantly, we don’t have to overly confront the upset within us — see FAQ 1.19 ‘A caution about the danger of over-exposure / Advice for people with mental health issues’.

Don’t despair Alan. While this necessarily has a slow start, humanity’s uptake of the explanation of the human condition has a fast finish as the selflessness it liberates in people will not only quickly solve all the problems on the planet, including teaching other people about this redeeming information, but the excitement and joy it brings means everyone will want to get on board as quickly as they can (see FAQ 1.5)! As Jeremy Griffith explains in his book FREEDOM chapter 9:9: “Although this new world for humans, which the World Transformation Movement has been established to facilitate, will, as has been stated, have a slow beginning because humans initially find it difficult even taking in or ‘hearing’ discussion about the human condition, once the WTM is discovered, word of it and what it offers every human and the world will spread like wildfire.’”

Yes, while the fundamental explanation is very simple, it does open up the historically off-limits subject of the human condition, so it does take time to fully absorb. We recommend repeated viewings Miki!

Thank you very much for your consideration Hazel. The human condition is the study of humans’ capacity for so-called ‘good and evil’ and is therefore the realm of inquiry where science and religion overlap, so in explaining the human condition religion is demystified and explained. Jeremy Griffith’s treatise actually reconciles science and religion by bringing biological understanding to pre-scientific concepts. It also needs to be said that although this is science, it is based on a Godly nature in the sense of recognising, like all the great religions do, that we humans once lived in a pre-human-condition-afflicted state of original innocence where we were perfectly instinctively orientated to the cooperative, selfless, loving, ‘Godly’ ideals of life; ‘God’ being briefly explained in THE Interview as being the integrative meaning of existence (see our FAQs about religion especially FAQs ‘What is God’ and ‘Does this understanding undermine religion’).

What is unique about Jeremy Griffith’s understanding of the human condition is that he has biologically answered the essential question of why, when the ideals are to be loving and selfless, are we so competitive and selfish? See FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this idea original or new?’

    While thinkers throughout history have touched on elements of the human condition in their thinking, ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. We suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ which explains the unique significance of Jeremy Griffith’s work.     Regarding psychopaths and narcissists, what you will find is that they are just examples, albeit extreme, of the psychologically upset state of the human condition – see FAQ 1.38 ‘Aren’t some people just born psychopathic, or even ‘evil’? / How does this explanation rehabilitate people capable of ‘evil’ behaviour? / Does this condone ‘evil’ behaviour?’. And, finally, you might also be interested in FAQ 1.40 which addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’

If there’s a book on the subject by Jeremy Griffiths I would like to obtain it .... The Human Condition could you help ..thanks

Thank you Skye, we certainly hope you continue to study this information because you will find that it just keep making more and more sense.

Hi Susan, you don’t need to wait at all! Electronic copies of Jeremy Grifith’s books are immediately available for free here on our homepage. This includes FREEDOM and THE Interview. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon, where you can also purchase a hardcopy if you’d prefer.

Great to have your interest Annette, Jeremy Griffith’s key books, including THE Interview and FREEDOM, are freely available on our homepage here to read online, print and download. You can also purchase hardcopies and download free Kindle versions from Amazon.

    Thanks for your question, Deborah. In Part 3 of THE Interview Jeremy Griffith explains how we became fully conscious which developed as a result of nurturing or the love-indoctrination process. He also refers the viewer to Chapter 7 of his definitive book FREEDOM which provides a comprehensive explanation — a summary of which is in FAQ 5.4 titled ‘What is consciousness? / Why is it that humans became conscious while other animals haven’t? / How did consciousness emerge in humans?’.     And yes, Jeremy’s treatise does bring new insight to the story of Adam and Eve, clarifying that while in the pre-scientific story Adam and Eve were portrayed as ‘bad’ or even ‘evil’ to take the fruit of knowledge, and treated as ‘sinful’, we can now understand that humans were ‘good’, even heroic, to search for knowledge, even though it caused us to become psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated sufferers of the human condition. As Jeremy says in Part 1 of THE Interview, “‘No, no, that story got it wrong’. Adam and Eve are actually not just good but the heroes of the whole story of life on Earth.” What science can now add to that pre-scientific description of the human condition is that our instincts in effect criticised the emerging conscious mind’s search for knowledge, but importantly, we can now understand that the conscious mind was right, or ‘good’ to defy our instinctive self in order to fulfil its great potential to manage life. While religious assurances, such as ‘God loves you’ in Christianity, provided comfort, they failed to explain WHY we are lovable, and it is that missing explanation that this breakthrough provides.

    Yes, Garland, it will, because this information is for everyone; it is the breakthrough that every human has been striving for since the emergence of consciousness, and it redeems and rehabilitates every single human on the planet. This is because all the problems we’re experiencing on this planet, aside from natural phenomenon, are caused by us humans. We are the ones who are egocentric, selfish, greedy, materialistic, fake, angry as hell. And so it’s that underlying issue — our destructively behaved, so-called human condition — that really has to be addressed and fixed if our species and our world are to survive. Only the psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real explanation of the human condition can stop the destruction of our world and the disintegration of society that is happening everywhere we look—and it is precisely this real psychologically redeeming, relieving and transforming explanation that biologist Jeremy Griffith has delivered in this instinct vs intellect understanding of the human condition. See FAQ 1.6 ‘Why does understanding solves everything’.     And if you haven’t read it already, we thought you would find psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen’s response to the question ‘How does understanding the human race’s condition help with an individual’s depression and psychosis?’ helpful — see FAQ 1.34 — and also FAQ 1.35 on ‘Does this heal anxiety?’ What is explained in those FAQs is that what is so significant about Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that we no longer have to be burdened by the fundamental question of whether we are good or bad because our core goodness as individuals and as a species has been biologically established. We can understand humans’ psychological upset was the price humans had to pay for searching for knowledge and that the human story presents the greatest, most heroic story ever told. We can at last understand the source of our upset and bring great compassion and kindness to ourselves and others and, most significantly, we don’t have to overly confront the upset within us — see FAQ 1.19 ‘A caution about the danger of over-exposure / Advice for people with mental health issues’.

    Thanks for your questions, Alton. The scenarios you mention are instinctual. What is explained in THE Interview is that our selfish and aggressive behaviour is not instinctual but psychologically derived. It is further explained that our ancestors were completely loving and cooperative, which means that our instincts are completely loving and cooperative. When we behave competitively or aggressively, unlike lions or chimps, it is not because of ‘savage instincts’ as has commonly been taught (see Part 2 of THE Interview), but because we are psychologically upset because of the instinct vs intellect clash.     The ‘negative’ side of human nature is not being ignored, it is just that its source is being explained honestly for the first time. And the wonderful thing is that that explanation turns out to be redeeming; we can now understand that all that competitive, aggressive, even destructive, behaviour was an unavoidable, indeed necessary, part of human life. This understanding defends our so-called ‘dark side’; and by explaining the very good reason why our intellect had to defy our instincts, it makes redundant our defensive behaviours of anger, egocentricity and alienation, allowing us to return to a loving state.     You might be interested in FAQ 1.40 which addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’.

Yes, while we couldn’t admit that our selfish, aggressive behaviour was psychological in origin (because we couldn’t admit we were corrupt until we could defend it, which this understanding does), we have had to come up with all sorts of theories to account for our good and evil stricken condition, and one of those is that we had an ancestor that was half bonobo, half chimpanzee, and that our good instincts therefore come from the bonobo part, and our ‘bad’ or selfish instincts from the chimpanzee half. But as is explained in Part 2 of THE Interview, the idea that we are selfish because we have ‘savage instincts’ is just an excuse we have had to use until we had the real defence for our condition. We can now see that our ancestors were completely loving and cooperative (a state that the bonobos are approaching), and that our selfish behaviour is a result of our psychologically upset state which resulted from the instinct vs intellect clash.

Hi Gladys, Thanks for your question. It does take a little time to fully absorb the significance of finally being able to explain the human condition. What it means is we now have the ability, for the first time, to understand every aspect of human behaviour and our behaviour will change naturally as a result. At last we can understand we have been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because at last we have the first principle-based science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it. This is the rapidly transforming practical effect of being able to understand the human condition which is fully explained and illustrated on our Transformation page. Also FAQs 1.4 to 1.6 explain the far-reaching application of this information and Freedom Essay 15 is all about ‘How our lives can be immediately transformed’. We’d especially recommend you join our Facebook Group and register for our live events with Jeremy Griffith as there is so much helpful discussion taking place there about how this immensely redeeming and relieving knowledge transforms our lives!

We agree that religions contained extraordinary truth about human life, and could provide humanity with incredible guidance, comfort and love under the duress of the human condition but ultimately to resolve and liberate ourselves from our conflicted human condition we needed to find the scientific explanation for WHY when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. We recommend reading our FAQs about religion.

Kyle Johnson has expressed almost precisely my own reactions to this initial one-hour interview with the biologist Jeremy Griffiths. I too was left with the impression that the interview lacked any depth or probing into the theories put before the viewer. Indeed, I found this interview contrived and suspected that the interviewer was reading from a script that had been written by Mr. Griffith. The ecstatic reaction of the interviewer and his perfect encapsulation of each answer before moving to his next question gave me pause as did the entire lack of awareness as to precisely how this massive shift in the universal thinking of all humankind would take root within some seven billion-plus individual Homo sapiens from hundreds of different cultures, races, belief systems, intellects, theologies, philosophies as well as social and economic environments. Mr. Griffith’s estimate that consciousness or self-awareness began some two million years ago goes against most scientific evidence concerning the first appearance of Homo-erectus, Neanderthal and early modern man (approximately 400,000 to 500,000 years ago) and that it has only been within the past 200,000 years that humans such as we are today first appear in the fossil record. Mr. Johnson has expressed his quandaries most eloquently and respectfully. There certainly was no major, breathtaking epiphany within me. Like Mr. Johnson, my initial reaction had me questioning my own intellectual ability to comprehend what I was hearing. However, after pondering this one-hour ‘interview’ for a few minutes, I concluded that there was sufficient proof in my years of formal education and the subsequent employment of my wits in establishing a successful livelihood that I came to the conclusion that, if nothing else, Mr. Griffith might have sought a more convincing prelude to the promotion of his theories regarding the true path to the Correction of the Human Condition.

    Thanks for your comment, Kyle. The more you digest this understanding, we suggest the more you will see how it brings profound peace to everyone’s situation, not just those who have been brought up “conditioned to believe the dogma that the human race are born as sinners”. What is so important about Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition, and why it applies to everyone, is that it finally explains the real reason for why humans’ selfish, competitive and destructive behaviour became an unavoidable, indeed necessary, part of human life. And with our goodness biologically established, we no longer need to be preoccupied with proving our worth. Solving the human condition solves all the confusion, frustration and suffering in human life at its source so we can actually stop the angry destruction of ourselves and the planet and save the world—which is why it is receiving positive comments, but we certainly do publish comments that question or criticise this understanding.     You may be interested in FAQ 1.34, in which the highly respected psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen, a former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, wrote: “the beauty of Griffith’s treatise is that the healing starts at the macro level of the universal human condition; the healing of the shame and blame that the whole human race has suffered from…It brings the greater context and love to all human psychosis and suffering, and then, from under the umbrella of that safe position, everyone can gradually work inwards to their particular experience of all the imperfections in human life that have now, finally, been made sense of.”     Finally, Jeremy’s work presents a new paradigm that dares to confront the historically off-limits subject of the human condition so it is common people initially struggle to ‘hear’ what is being explained, so we also recommend reading FAQ 1.16 ‘Why can’t I understand this?’

    Hi Stewart, thank you very much for your comment. Yes, the human condition has caused so much pain and trauma it is almost unimaginable. If you haven’t read it already, we thought you would find psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen’s response to the question ‘How does understanding the human race’s condition help with an individual’s depression and psychosis?’ helpful — see FAQ 1.34 — and also FAQ 1.35 on ‘Does this heal anxiety?’ What is explained in those FAQs is that what is so significant about Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that we no longer have to be burdened by the fundamental question of whether we are good or bad because our core goodness as individuals and as a species has been biologically established. We can understand humans’ psychological upset was the price humans had to pay for searching for knowledge and that the human story presents the greatest, most heroic story ever told. We can at last understand the source of our upset and bring great compassion and kindness to ourselves and others and, most significantly, we don’t have to overly confront the upset within us — see FAQ 1.19 ‘A caution about the danger of over-exposure / Advice for people with mental health issues’.     And with regard to nurturing, we can now understand it has been humanity’s necessary preoccupation with finding knowledge that has compromised our ability to nurture and now that preoccupation ends we can safely acknowledge the absolute importance of nurturing in the development of children – see chapter 8:16C of FREEDOM on ‘The dire consequences of terminal levels of alienation destroying our ability to nurture our children’. So indeed our ability to heal depended on deeply knowing ourselves by having this core mystery of our contradictory behaviour biologically understood.

    Hi Petronella, thank you for your interest. You’ll see at the top of our homepage — HumanCondition.com — that it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’, which guides you through the steps to learn more. This includes registering for our free, live, interactive events with Jeremy Griffith and others and joining our popular Facebook Group, where there is much profound and exciting discussion happening.     We also want to let you know that THE Interview is available in Afrikaans here on our homepage! Also the WTM Cape Town Centre presents further translations on its website.