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Our homepage—HumanCondition.com—has it all there for you Toni, and it is all 100% FREE (no registration required)! At the top it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest! Also you can subscribe to our mailing list to receive all our 64 Freedom Essays (one per week) which guides you through much of the content of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM in beautifully illustrated bite-size pieces. Also our Facebook Group provides a wonderful platform for participating in, or just observing, interesting and exciting discussion with others about how we can live with this critical new science.

Hi Malcolm, thanks for your comment. Psychologist Viktor Frankl founded logotherapy, a school of thought that describes a search for a life’s meaning as the central human motivational force and Frankl dedicated his life to helping people find personal meaning in life. Jeremy Griffith explains in this interview that our search for knowledge or meaning is ultimately the search to find understanding of our ‘good and evil’-stricken human condition. To find such understanding we needed the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents here; see FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ as it explains the unique significance of Jeremy’s work. However, Jeremy also explains that this journey is the same for the individual and the collective and the search for knowledge has meant each individual, and the human race as a whole, has journeyed from a state of loving innocence, to one of psychological upset. This is comprehensively explained in Jeremy’s main book FREEDOM chapter 8 titled ‘The Greatest, Most Heroic Story Ever Told: Humanity’s Journey from Ignorance to Enlightenment’: “the stages that we, as conscious individuals, progress through are the same stages our human ancestors progressed through—‘ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny’: our individual consciousness necessarily charts the same course that our species’ consciousness has taken as a whole.” (For those without a science background, phylogenesis refers to the evolutionary development of a species [or phylum], while ontogenesis refers to the development of the individual organism.) As well as FREEDOM chapter 8 you may like to read the early chapters of Jeremy’s brief book Our Meaning which describe how finally being able to understand the human condition and know the great objective and meaning of human existence presents the universal solution that finally ends human suffering.

    Thank you Dan for your most sincere and open response. This information really does represent a huge demystification of our world and naturally takes some time to adjust to. To help you with this it’s important to keep in mind that Jeremy Griffith’s explanations of the human condition don’t contradict or threaten religious faith at all. They are actually a fufilment of the ideals of life upheld by all the great religions while the search for the liberating understanding of our corrupted condition was underway so there is absolutely nothing to feel guilty about or feel that you are dangerously betraying your faith in any way. This is fully addressed in our FAQ 6.3 which answers the questions ‘Aren’t all Griffith’s demystifications of religious teachings going to be seen by supporters of religion as blasphemy? / Does understanding of the human condition undermine a faith in religion or God? / How does this affect my personal religious practice? / How can you reconcile the explanation of the human condition that defends the upset state with religious teachings that condemn upset?’ so we highly recommend you read this.     What Jeremy work does is bring biological understanding to pre-scientific concepts. For instance he brings new insight to the story of Adam and Eve, clarifying that while in the pre-scientific story Adam and Eve were portrayed as ‘bad’ or even ‘evil’ to take the fruit of knowledge, and treated as ‘sinful’, we can now understand that humans were ‘good’, even heroic, to search for knowledge, even though it caused us to become psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated sufferers of the human condition. To quote Jeremy from Part 1, “‘No, no, that story got it wrong’. Adam and Eve are actually not just good but the heroes of the whole story of life on Earth.” So what science can now add to that pre-scientific description of the human condition is that our instincts in effect criticised the emerging conscious mind’s search for knowledge, but importantly, we can now understand that the conscious mind was right, or ‘good’ to defy our instinctive self in order to fulfil its great potential to manage life which fundamentally lifts the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race and finally ends our psychologically troubled human condition.     Also although this is science, it is based on a Godly nature in the sense of recognising, like all the great religions do, that we humans once lived in a pre-human-condition-afflicted state of original innocence where we were perfectly instinctively orientated to the cooperative, selfless, all-loving, ‘Godly’ ideals of life; ‘God’ being briefly explained in THE Interview as the personification of the integrative meaning of existence, see FAQ 6.2 ‘What is the meaning of life? / What is the Integrative Meaning of existence? / What is ‘God’? / Does the scientific explanation of ‘God’ really contain all the attributes of religion’s metaphysical ‘God’?’ So at last we have reconciling understanding of our upset behaviour with the Godly ideals which is what we have been desperately missing.     In terms of Christianity and Christ, Jeremy does consider the Bible to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing all the truth about human life albeit from that pre-science view, and he has written about Christ’s life and its phenomenal importance in humanity’s journey in Freedom Essay 39.     As you say Dan you “need to think on this” as there is much to absorb so take your time and you may find this quote by the physicist Charles H. Townes reassuring as he summed up this ultimate reconciliation of science and religion best when he said, “they [science and religion] both represent man’s efforts to understand his universe and must ultimately be dealing with the same substance. As we understand more in each realm, the two must grow together…converge they must.” Also you may like to explore the commendations Jeremy’s work has received from scientists and thought leaders, including theologians, here on our homepage.

Hi Ronald, the fundamental explanation is actually very simple and not beyond the most basic of educations. What you might find helpful is our FAQ 1.3 which summarises what is presented in THE Interview and also Video/Freedom Essay 3 ‘THE EXPLANATION of the human condition’ which is a 14 min presentation. It is also worth mentioning that the very nature of the human condition means explanation of it can be initially difficult to access as it has been the most terrifying of subjects to face because it is the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad as a species, and we have necessarily lived in almost total denial of it so re-watching the presentations can help.

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That’s sounds like the perfect approach Leala! Jeremy’s definitive book is FREEDOM, however, after watching THE Interview, we recommend you watch (or read) the 3 other Intro Videos on our homepage — The Great Guilt video that explains the difficulty of the ‘Deaf Effect’ that reading about the human condition initially causes, then The Great Transformation video about how understanding the human condition actually transforms the human race, then the Sermon On The Beach video, Jeremy’s inspired description of how the human race now leaves the horror of the human condition forever! All these presentations are available as books, which you can immediately access free electronic copies of to read, listen to or download here on our homepage. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. (Otherwise you can purchase hard copies from Amazon or other good bookstores.)

Don’t despair Michael. While it is true that everyone is preoccupied with their human-condition-afflicted lives, humanity’s uptake of the explanation of the human condition has a fast finish as the selflessness it liberates in people will not only quickly solve all the problems on the planet, including teaching other people about this redeeming information, but the excitement and joy it brings means everyone will want to get on board as quickly as they can (see FAQ 1.5). As Jeremy Griffith explains in his book FREEDOM chapter 9:9: “Although this new world for humans, which the World Transformation Movement has been established to facilitate, will, as has been stated, have a slow beginning because humans initially find it difficult even taking in or ‘hearing’ discussion about the human condition, once the WTM is discovered, word of it and what it offers every human and the world will spread like wildfire.’”

Hi Larry, it’s great you’ve watched THE Interview as it’s the ideal introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition. From there, at top of our homepage HumanCondition.com, it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes all of Jeremy’s other publications, which are freely available, and includes his definitive book FREEDOM; and subscribing to our mailing list where you will receive one ‘Freedom Essay’ email per week. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world.

    There is a lot to absorb here, so we do counsel everyone to take their time with all of this. For example, we suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’ and Video/Freedom Essay 4 which expands on other thinkers (both ancient and contemporary) who have recognised the instinct and intellect elements involved in creating the human condition. There it is explained that while many have identified the elements of instinct and intellect involved in creating the human condition, the biological breakthrough Jeremy’s treatise provides is the clarifying explanation of the nature of the conflict between them and explains without that explanation the conflict could not be resolved.     We also recommend our FAQs on politics which explain that freedom of thought and individualism, sustained by the incentives of materialism and capitalism, which right-wing constitutions uphold, are what maintained humanity’s heroic search for knowledge, ultimately for self-knowledge. And so paradoxically it was the right-wing that actually held the moral high ground and the left-wing that posed the real threat to humanity due to the fact that its dogmatically imposed pseudo-idealism gravely endangers freedom of thought and the search for understanding.

    We suggest that as you digest what is presented here, you will realise that there is a far deeper “root” which is the instinct vs intellect clash. This is the source of our psychologically upset human condition, of which dysfunctional “learning, school and parents” are only symptoms.     We can at last understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. This is the rapidly rehabilitating and transforming effect of being able to understand the human condition. FAQs 1.4 to 1.6 are helpful as they talk about the far-reaching practical applications of this understanding.

Great Maryanne, you won’t be dissapointed. You can immediately access a copy of FREEDOM at the top of our homepage just under THE Interview! You will see an image of FREEDOM with the text ‘Free Copy’ so click on that to access your free electronic copy to read, listen to or download. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. If you are particularly after a hardcopy of Jeremy Griffith’s books they are available to purchase from Amazon and other good bookstores.

Hi Diana, you can watch all the videos on our website using the closed captions or subtitles function in any language (just click on the ‘cc’ icon at the bottom of the video player/window).

The central tenet of Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that humans have a cooperative, loving instinctive heritage, not a brutish, savage and aggressive one, and that the source of our aggression is a psychosis that has been compounding ever since the instinct and intellect clashed some 2 million years ago. It follows then that the further back in history we go, the less psychologically upset our ancestors were. As is mentioned in THE Interview, the anthropologist C. Owen Lovejoy reported that “our species-defining cooperative mutualism can now be seen to extend well beyond the deepest Pliocene [which is well beyond 5.3 million years ago]”. In chapter 8 of Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM, the whole human journey is explained, showing that humans lived in a cooperative state for at least 5 million years before the emergence of the human condition some 2 million years ago. It is this period of our history that emerges as an instinctive memory of a ‘Golden Age’ as recorded by writers such as Hesiod, Plato and Moses. For example, the gentleness of so-called primitive peoples, such as the San Bushmen and the Australian Aborigines, evidences this ‘golden age’ of innocence (for example, in chapter 2:7). However, all humans are now part of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, and are therefore nowhere near as innocent as humans were some 2 million years ago when the battle of the human condition first emerged. Reference is also made to the Bantu people in chapter 8:16E, who, while not being as innocent as the San Bushmen, are in turn more innocent than Caucasians, and so on. What is so extraordinary about Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition is that it rationally explains that despite the differing levels of upset due to everyone’s different encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, we are all equally good. You might like to read the presentations about the power of this explanation from Franklin Mukakanga, a Bantu man from Zambia, and Refentse Molosiwa, of South Africa, in Video/Freedom Essay 8.

Hi Jan, on our Translations page you can freely access all our Dutch translations! This includes THE Interview, Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM, its condensation, Transform Your Life And Save The World, and Freedom Essays 1-14. You can also watch all the videos on our website, using the closed captions or subtitles function in any language (just click on the ‘cc’ icon at the bottom of the video player/window). You might also be interested in visiting the websites of WTM Centres in Amsterdam, Arnhem and Antwerp as their websites are also provided in Dutch (there are also centres in Rotterdam and Goes, but we have not translated their content yet).

Yes, while religious assurances, such as ‘God loves you’ in Christianity, provided comfort, they failed to explain WHY we are lovable, and it is that missing explanation that science had to provide, which is what this breakthrough does. We can now actually understand from a biological perspective that despite the horrific anger, egocentricity and alienation that searching for knowledge caused in us, we are fundamentally good. With regard to the existence of ‘God’, it is important to understand that Jeremy Griffith’s work doesn’t ignore, exclude or contradict a belief in God, it simply brings biological understanding to that pre-scientific concept. At the end of Part 3 of THE Interview Jeremy briefly explains that ‘God’ is the personification of the Negative-Entropy-driven integrative meaning of existence. This explanation is summarised in FAQ 6.2 ‘What is ‘God’?’ and fully presented in chapter 4 of FREEDOM. We also think you might find our FAQs about religion of interest, especially FAQs ‘What is God’ and ‘Does this understanding undermine religion’.

Thank you for sharing it to us.

What is so significant about the explanation of the human conditon is that this understanding defends our so-called ‘dark side’ and explains that despite all appearances to the contrary, all humans are ‘good’. It turns out that we had to destroy the historic ‘utopia’ of our all loving instinctive self or soul. But, paradoxically, by explaining the very good reason why our intellect had to defy our instincts, it makes redundant our defensive behaviours of anger, egocentricity and alienation, allowing us to return to the “utopia of helpful and loving thy neighbour”!

    The terrible paradox of the human condition is that we had to destroy our soulful, all-loving, edenic, self in order to fulfil the conscious mind’s potential to manage life from a conscious basis. However, now that we can understand that the conscious mind had to undertake the corrupting search for knowledge – “march into hell for a heavenly cause” as the lyrics of The Man of La Mancha put it – the answer is that despite the terrible cost the conscious mind / Adam and Eve / Adam Stork is clearly heroic.     In chapter 2:6 of his definitive book FREEDOM, Jeremy Griffith includes the following extraordinary passage from Plato’s The Statesman, in which Plato poses – and answers – the question of whether it would have been better to stay in our ‘Edenic’ state than pursue knowledge and lose it. Griffith writes, “While still not able to clearly explain why the conflict occurred and from there reveal how humans are good when we appear to be bad, Plato did recognise that we had to search for knowledge. Posing the question of whether a ‘blessed and spontaneous’, instinctively guided innocent ancestor ‘having this boundless leisure, and the power of holding intercourse, not only with men, but with brute creation [in other words, having the power to sensitively relate to each other and even to other creatures]’ would prefer that existence over the situation of an upset human, someone ‘of our own day’ who is dedicated to developing ‘a view to philosophy’ and ‘able to contribute some special experience to the store of wisdom’, Plato said that ‘the answer would be easy’—he would ‘deem the happier’ the life ‘of our own day’ in which we each had the opportunity to ‘contribute some special experience to the store of wisdom [the necessary search for knowledge]’)!”

Thanks Logan. We read your previous comment about the history of your personal search for understanding with interest, however as moderators of this comment section we need to ensure that comments remain focussed on Jeremy Griffith’s breakthrough understanding so that it is of as much help to readers as possible, and so we did not make it public. We would like to draw your attention to our How To Help page, which provides numerous ways that we can all help promote this human-race-saving understanding of the human condition.

Hi Samira, Jeremy’s books and essays are being translated into many languages around the world, thanks to wonderful efforts from the WTM’s ever-expanding global network of support. Our Translations page shows all languages that are available, and that includes Farsi (Persian) translations of THE Interview and The Great Guilt! Also, people can watch all the videos on our website using the closed captions or subtitles function in the main languages offered by Youtube (just click on the ‘cc’ icon at the bottom of the video player/window).

Yes, we have all had (at the least) a subconscious awareness that everything is not as it should be. As Jeremy explains in Video/Freedom Essay 11, we have all been living in Plato’s Cave, looking not at the real world, but a world defined by denial of our human condition, and our schooling reflected that, avoiding the issue of the human condition. We can now understand that the reason that the “whole world [is] sick” is because we have been living with a psychosis - a deep sense of guilt over having corrupted our original all-loving instinctive self or soul. What is so wonderful, is that now that we now have the redeeming understanding of why our conscious mind had to defy our instincts, and as a result all our defensive behaviours of anger, egocentricity and alienation are made redundant. We can return to a loving, cooperative way of life.

    Hi Deepak, thank you for your comment. Yes, as is explained in FAQ 1.10, human-condition-avoiding, mechanistic, reductionist, deductive science is an extremely limited and compromised form of science. As Templeton Prize-winning biologist Charles Birch, who was Jeremy Griffith’s professor of biology at Sydney University, said, “[mechanistic] science can’t deal with subjectivity [the issue of our psychologically distressed condition]…what we were all taught in universities is pretty much a dead end” and “Biology has not made any real advance since Darwin”. Indeed, mechanistic science is now so farcically dishonest and discredited in the public’s mind that many people have lost interest in it to the point of dismissing it as of no real use to us in terms of being able to understand and manage our behaviour! Freedom Essay/Video 14 makes this discreditation very clear.     So to address your first question in this light, Jeremy’s ability to actually bring truthful, holistic analysis to the issue of the human condition turns this limitation on its head; he provides the source of our species’ corrupted condition and brings relieving understanding to it; he solves all the confusion, frustration and suffering in human life at its source. We can now understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness, so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. This is the rapidly transforming effect of being able to understand the human condition, however because it presents a huge paradigm shift in our thinking it does take a little time to fully grasp. FAQs 1.4 to 1.6 are helpful as they talk about the far-reaching practical applications of this understanding.

Hi Sue, it’s great you’ve watched THE Interview as it’s the ideal introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition. From there, at top of our homepage HumanCondition.com, it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes subscribing to our mailing list where you will receive the Freedom Essay series, the free course that guides you through much of the content of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM in beautifully illustrated bite-size pieces. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. We are a not-for-profit organisation and make all our material and publications free to read online, watch, listen to and even download and print!

Hi Dennis, thank you for your comment. There is actually a huge difference between Jeremy Griffith’s biological treatise and New Age publications such as the ‘Course in Miracles’, which is captured in this comment on Video/Freedom Essay 9 by WTM subscriber Lesley Davies, who said: “I can now see why A Course in Miracles didn’t work for me. I completed the 365 day course three years running to try and heal myself from deep depression and anxiety. After reading essay 15 and studying Freedom it becomes clear that without the explanation of WHY we are so upset ACIM can only act as a sticky plaster with the ‘scream’ still going on underneath.” FAQ 6.5 further explains how our species’ liberation from the human condition depended on confronting and biologically explaining why we became so upset, and stresses this huge difference between Jeremy’s work and the new age movement. We very much hope you explore Jeremy’s explanation further by subscribing to the Freedom Essay series, as it serves as a wonderfully comprehensive, free course that guides you through much of the content of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM in beautifully illustrated bite-size pieces, and will provide further clarification of how his treatise gets to the origin of, and thus heals, the source of the “negative emotions of hatred, fear, and anger” that you speak of and which affect all humans.

    In Freedom Essay 39 Jeremy Griffith explains that the Cain and Abel story is a metaphor for the fundamental truth that humanity has progressed from a state of innocence to a state of upset, and how, following the advent of agriculture, that progression eventually led to warfare. The emergence of sex as humans practice it (or ‘carnal knowledge’), is explained in Freedom Essay 27. It is explained that sex as humans practice it emerged as a result of humanity, in particular men, became psychologically upset as a result of the all-important, but corrupting search for knowledge. Rather than just the means of procreation, sex became a a way of attacking the condemning innocence and naivety of women. This development is described through metaphor in the Bible. As Jeremy writes in Freedom Essay 27, “To quote Moses in the Bible, when Adam and Eve took the fruit from the tree of knowledge (set out in search of understanding), ‘the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized that they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves’ (Gen. 3:7).” This whole topic is extremely sensitive and prone to misrepresentation, and so we recommend that everyone reads Freedom Essay 27 in its entirety.     With regard to the charge that Jeremy Grifith’s work “remove[s] god from every aspect of life”, we maintain that Jeremy’s work doesn’t contradict a belief in God or Christianity, or the Bible’s content. It simply brings biological understanding to all those pre-scientific concepts, see FAQ 6.3 ‘Does understanding of the human condition undermine a faith in religion or God?’. Also in terms of understanding our spiritual aspect see FAQ 6.7 ‘How can a scientific explanation ever hope to account for and encompass the great ‘spiritual’ dimension we know exists in life? / Isn’t ‘spirituality’ beyond a purely rational explanation?’

Hi Fran, thank you for your feedback and it is wonderful you are interested and finding some comfort from the explanation. We’d like to suggest you re-watch Part 4 of THE Interview about how this understanding brings immense relief and freedom to our hearts and minds. To quote Jeremy Griffith from the beginning of Part 4: "Well, what this real—and actually very obvious—instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition fundamentally does is lift the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race. It establishes that we humans are good and not bad after all. While we are all inevitably variously angry, egocentric and alienated from our different encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, ultimately self-knowledge, understanding of our corrupted condition, we can now know that every human is fundamentally good. And this ability to understand and know there was a good reason why the human race became psychologically upset, is the key, relieving understanding we have been in search of ever since we became conscious some 2 million years ago and our corrupted condition emerged. That is the key relief for our mind—being finally able to understand that we are good and not bad is what brings us the greatest psychological relief of all..."

So great to have your interest Heather and please see our response to Anozie Christopher Anenechukwu below in terms of accessing more comprehensive explanation and references on our website. Happy exploring!

Absolutely Anozie, finally being able to understand the human condition makes sense of everything! Throughout this summary interview references to more comprehensive material is included for all the main points made and our extensive FAQ facility is another helpful resource. Also, to help you progress your understanding after watching THE Interview, here are our recommended next steps: • Subscribe to our free Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. • Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition. Totally free, no registration required. • Read the Key Books by Jeremy Griffith. Totally free to download, no registration required. • Join and participate in our Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. • Help this critical new science by sharing it!

Absolutely Timothy the transformation of the world is setting in for sure! Just read the over 15,000 ecstatic responses for THE Interview on our homepage and scroll down to see the rapidly growing appreciation and support for the WTM with astonishing commendations from scientists and thought leaders and over 70 WTM Centres all over the world! So come and join us by subscribing to our free mailing list and joining our booming Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world!

Thank you for your comment Arnold. Yes, as Jeremy Griffith explains in this interview, the human condition has been a terrifying subject (as it is the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad as a species) and we have necessarily lived in denial of it. So until it could be solved science took a mechanistic denial-based approach and religions were the custodians of the ideals to provide shelter and support while the psychologically upsetting search for liberating knowledge was underway. Now with Jeremy’s denial-free, holistic instinct vs intellect treatise, the polarities of life, including science and religion, can be reconciled and we can begin to heal and bring about a new, transformed world, free of suffering, for everyone! It is now just a matter of getting these understandings into the mainstream, which is underway as you can see from the outstanding commendations Jeremy’s work has received from thought leaders in the domains of science and theology on our homepage here. Also we suggest FAQ 1.15 ‘If this is biology, why the religious references?’ about how this reconciles science and religion and also Freedom Essay 41 ‘Is science’s scorn of religion legitimate?’ where Jeremy discusses that while many scientists scorn religion now we have the scientific explanation of the human condition we can see how extraordinarily insightful some religious metaphors are.

Thank you for your comment and openness Kathleen. The human condition has certainly caused so much unbearable suffering, especially for children, it has been a deeply tragic reality. This must be particularly distressing for parents and grandparents especially now with the levels of psychological upset and alienation increasing so rapidly the amount of upset is virtually doubling in each new generation. This terrifying end play threat of such levels of psychosis is explained and illustrated in Part 2 of THE Interview with the graph that charts the progression of upset from no psychosis to ‘terminal levels of psychosis’. This reality is further explained by Jeremy Griffith in Freedom Essay 55 titled ‘Endgame for the human race: the Millennials evidence the fast approaching death of the human race from terminal levels of psychosis, which only the redeeming and psychologically healing understanding of the human condition — that has finally been found but not yet widely implemented — can save us from’. Thank goodness with Jeremy’s instinct vs intellect explanation we can finally understand its cause and its solution and know humans’ psychological upset was the price humans had to pay for searching for knowledge and that the human story presents the greatest, most heroic story ever told. It’s also importantly to mention, it’s not what has happened to us in our lives so much as our inability to understand why it was happening that has been the problem. It’s been the terrible silence about the horror of the human condition that children have had to endure that is so devastating, and what leads to them to having to resign in their adolescence (you can read about the process of Resignation in Freedom Essay 30). So, in a world fast going crazy from the effects of the human condition, this is the now desperately needed reconciling understanding that will bring about a new world for humans FREE of the agony of the human condition. As Jeremy says in Part 4 of this interview about how this understanding rehabilitates us all “Light comes streaming into the dark cave-like world of denial that we have been living in, and it will all be like waking up from a nightmare!”

Yes Fabrizio what THE Interview presents is truly a wealth of information! For readers of these comments we wanted to clarify the World Transformation Movement is a global not-for-profit organisation. This is a scientific pursuit and we make all our publications, subscription and membership freely available on our website. This is not a money making venture – see our FAQs about the WTM.

Hi Ann, we agree Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the nurturing based love-indoctrination process is mind-blowing! Jeremy explains that the original genetic instinct for maternalism is a naturally selected instinctive orientation that evolved because it promotes the perpetuation of its own genes through better protecting its offspring. HOWEVER, in Part 3 of THE Interview Jeremy explains how humans biologically overcame this necessarily selfish genetic limitation through what he identifies as the ‘Love-Indoctrination’ process. That over time, through the Love-Indoctrination process, maternalism became a case of mothers actively loving their offspring — which was to prove the unlocking point for our species to develop our selfless, moral instinctive self or soul, and our unique consciousness! You can read more about the nurturing-based Love-Indoctrination process in chapter 5 of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM, and how it liberated consciousness in chapter 7. You can also read a summary in FAQ 5.2 ‘How did we humans acquire our all-loving, unconditionally selfless moral conscience?/ What do bonobos tell us about our own evolutionary heritage?’. Key to this explanation is we can at last understand what love actually is, which is unconditional selflessness, and why it so significant in our lives and in the development of humanity. There is actually a clear theme or purpose or meaning of existence, which is the ordering or integration of matter, a process that is driven by the physical law of Negative Entropy – see FAQ 5.3 ‘What is the meaning of life? / What is the Integrative Meaning of existence? / What is God?’. Also Jeremy’s book titled The Book Of Real Answers To Everything! includes the essay ‘What is Love‘ which you may like to read.

Hi Carol, biologist Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition allows us to understand the real merits and liabilities of both the left and right wing. His work certainly recognises the destructive brutality of the right-wing; indeed he brings understanding to the whole extremely destructive angry, egocentric and alienated human condition. He also recognises the failing of the left-wing, which is that it is the Left’s (not the Right) dogmatic insistence on cooperative, selfless and loving behaviour that stifled and oppressed the freedom of expression and individualism needed to find knowledge, ultimately self-knowledge, the redeeming understanding of our seemingly destructive human condition that thankfully he has now found and presents in his book FREEDOM. Basically his work brings profound understanding to both sides, which ultimately brings to an end the whole ugly business of politics. This is fully explained in our FAQs about politics.

The world certainly is in a massive mess Geoffrey and we desperately need to solve the human condition which is what we are suggesting Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview. As with any new scientific breakthrough in history it will take time to gain mainstream acceptance but, as Jeremy explains in Part 2 of this interview, the issue of the human condition has been such a denied and off-limits subject that confronting it represents the “biggest of all blasphemies” (also see FAQ 1.14 ‘Why aren’t these ideas mainstream?’). However, while this necessarily has a slow start, humanity’s uptake of the explanation of the human condition has a fast finish as the selflessness it liberates in people will not only quickly solve all the problems on the planet but the excitement and joy it brings means everyone will want to get on board as quickly as they can (see FAQ 1.40 ‘Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world?). And so even though we haven’t yet reached the tipping point we are well on our way as you can see from the excitement and relief in our daily ecstatic responses to THE Interview, the rapidly growing appreciation and support for Jeremy’s work with outstanding commendations from thought leaders and over 70 WTM Centres all over the world—all of which you can explore on our homepage!

Hi Doris, as is explained in our reply to John below, Jeremy Griffith explains in this interview that all humans are born with loving instincts, not competitive animal instincts, but now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition caused by the conscious mind’s necessary search for knowledge. So we are born innocent of this psychosis, or corruption of our instinctive self or soul, and our individual encounter with the human condition dictated how psychologically upset or corrupted in self we became. So society could continue to function and our species could keep progressing toward finding an answer to our corrupted condition we learnt to civilise or restrain our upset destructive behaviour, in effect choose love over hate. Jeremy talks about this in THE Interview: “While we have learnt to significantly restrain and conceal—‘civilise’ as we refer to it—the phenomenal amount of upset within us, under the surface we all must be boiling with rage, and sometimes, when our restraint can no longer find a way to contain it, that anger must express itself—hence our capacity for shocking acts of cruelty, sadism, hate, murder and war.” In that journey towards the ultimate understanding of our human condition religions have certainly helped us restrain our upset. In Christianity if you live in support of Christ, as St Paul realised and taught, you are living in support of the embodiment of the ideals rather than in support of your corrupted condition. However to stop our ever-increasing levels of upset we needed to find the scientific explanation for why we are fundamentally good—answer the age-old question of why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents here and why it is heralded as being able to save the world. There is certainly much to absorb here Doris and these FAQs may help if you would like to explore this further. FAQ 1.3 ‘What is biologist Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition?’ and FAQ 6.3 ‘Does understanding of the human condition undermine a faith in religion or God?’.

Thanks John we agree the world certainly needs this information and now. It takes time to fully absorb all that is explained in THE Interview because the subject of the human condition, the exact issue you raise of whether we are fundamentally ‘good or bad’, has historically been an off-limits subject and one we’ve had to live in denial of until it was solved. What is presented actually explains why we are all capable of the contradictory behaviour. Jeremy Griffith reveals that humans are born with “good” and “caring” instincts (not savage animal instincts) but now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition caused by the conscious mind’s necessary search for knowledge. So we aren’t born ‘good’ or ‘bad’ but rather we all suffer from this universal psychosis to varying degrees. Ultimately to resolve and liberate ourselves from our conflicted or contradictory condition, or to “stop ruining things”, we needed to find the scientific explanation for WHY when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish! Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in this interview.

Certainly AA ‘12 Steps’ contains truth about our psychologically upset state, however it is not a scientific understanding. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish, because that is the only way we could solve the issue at its source. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. We suggest FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this idea original or new? which explains the unique significance of Jeremy’s work.

    Yes that makes sense Lydia. Because the human condition is the study of humans’ capacity for acts of both so-called ‘good and evil’ it is the realm of inquiry where science and religion overlap, so in explaining the human condition religion is demystified and explained by bringing biological understanding to pre-scientific concepts. With particular regard to Paul’s epistle to the Romans, you might be interested in Jeremy’s new presentation Sermon On The Beach in which he compares living in support of Christ with living in support of the redeeming biological explanation of the human condition. For example in paragraph 41, Jeremy writes, "In Christianity, for example, if you live in support of Christ you’re living in support of the embodiment of the ideals, and, as St Paul realised and taught, by doing that, by living in support of Christ rather than in support of your corrupted condition, you are able to free yourself from your corrupted condition. But, as I explain in paragraphs 42–50 of Death by Dogma, Christianity and the other great religions were only stepping stones, albeit critically important ones, towards this ultimate understanding-of-the-human-condition-based free life. And yet, as I explain in paragraphs 1198–1200 of FREEDOM, in the case of Christianity, the relief St Paul derived from deciding to live in support of Christ was so immensely exciting he fell off his donkey and, metaphorically speaking, went blind for three days."     You can immediately access free electronic copies of Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM (along with his other key books, including Sermon On The Beach) to read, listen to or download here on our homepage. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. (Otherwise you can purchase hard copies from Amazon or other good bookstores.)

Hi Nick, it’s great you’ve watched THE Interview as it’s the ideal introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition. From there, at top of our homepage HumanCondition.com, it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes subscribing to our mailing list where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. We are a not-for-profit organisation and make all our material and publications free to read online, watch, listen to and even download and print!

Thanks BJ. Fromm did manage to recognise that becoming conscious and departing from our instinct controlled state would have created a state of ‘insecurity’ from that situation, however he didn’t recognise our species’ cooperative, loving past. Unable to identify the real source of our insecurity, which is that our cooperative and loving instincts criticised our conscious mind for experimenting in self-management, Fromm could only prescribe a superficial solution — a society in which there was “active solidarity with all men and his spontaneous activity, love and work, which unite him again with the world, not by primary ties but as a free and independent individual” (Escape From Freedom). You can read more about Fromm in Freedom Essay 53. And you can read more about the danger of Left Wing dogma in Jeremy’s booklet Death by Dogma.

With our technology, infrastructure and drugs, there is no going back to an integrative cooperative society. The writer has no practical solution to our upset psychotic mindset. Just another fantasist: ‘What if. . .?’

What is unique about Jeremy Griffith’s work is that he has answered the essential question of why, when the universal ideals are to be loving and selfless, are we so competitive and selfish, to the extent that we have nearly destroyed ourselves and our world. Only through understanding the dark side of ourselves can we free ourselves from the human condition and legitimately love ourselves and each other again. This is the critical difference between Jeremy’s work and the new age movement, see FAQ 6.5.

    Thank you for your questions, Sean. We are a small team in the pioneering stages of this massive project, so our resources are very limited. Even though THE Interview is a summary presentation it does provide references to more comprehensive material where answers to questions like you have asked are presented. Also, to assist enquirers we have an extensive FAQ facility which can be easily searched electronically at www.humancondition.com along with all our books and essays.     For example, with regard to consciousness and our instinctive state, you might be interested in FAQ 5.2 ‘How did we humans acquire our all-loving, unconditionally selfless moral conscience?’; and FAQ 5.4 What is consciousness? / Why is it that humans became conscious while other animals haven’t? / How did consciousness emerge in humans?'.     With regard to the effect of the world around us on our psychological state, you might be interested in FAQ 1.37 ‘How much of our upset is caused by our own search for knowledge and how much is caused by the accumulated upset already in the world?’     With regard to so-called ‘primitive’ peoples, the central tenet of Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is that humans have a cooperative, loving instinctive heritage, not a brutish, savage and aggressive one, and that the source of our aggression is a psychosis that has been compounding ever since the instinct and intellect clashed. Therefore it follows that the further back in history we go, the less psychologically upset a race of people will be, and so the more cooperative and loving they will be – and we can see evidence of this in existing ‘primitive’races of people, such as in indigenous cultures, which is what you have identified. So the answer is that primitive races are relatively innocent compared with other races; however, it needs to pointed out that they are still members of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, so they are still psychologically upset angry egocentric and alienated, but not to the point where they can’t live peacefully. You might be interested in chapter 8:12 of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM, which discusses the relatively innocent Bushmen of the Kalahari at some length.     With regard to bonobos, please see the aforementioned FAQ 5.2, which also addresses the questions of, ‘What do the nurtured and cooperative bonobos tell us about our own evolutionary heritage? / How do you account for reports that bonobos hunt and kill, and even that male bonobos are more aggressive than chimpanzee males?’     We hope that is helpful Sean.