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What is so extraordinary about Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition is that it defends our so-called ‘dark side – it explains that there was a good reason that we became ‘corrupted’, which resulted in our divisive world of “borders, race and religion”. So we can now see that all the aspects of our world that you are identifying as “old men’s virtual reality games” have actually been necessary and a part of the heroic search for knowledge. That is why this explanation is so powerful: it actually allows us all to reconcile the selfish madness of the world, and in ourselves, with ideality. And by giving us the ultimate fulfilment, which is giving us the very good reason why our intellect had to defy our instincts, it makes redundant our defensive behaviours of anger, egocentricity and alienation. This is what changes the world!

THE Interview provides the ideal introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s work, so we suggest you start here. Also, FAQ 1.3 presents a very brief summary of the key ‘instinct vs intellect’ concept. Essentially, when we humans developed a conscious mind some 2 million years ago, a battle unavoidably developed between it and our already established cooperative instincts. The result of this conflict between our instinct and intellect was that we became psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric – the upset state we refer to as the human condition. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition.

That is wonderful to hear how powerfully clarifying you are finding Jeremy’s explanation of the human condition Christopher. You can immediately access free electronic copies of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM (along with his other key books, including THE Interview) to read, listen to or download on our World Transformation Movement homepage. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. (Otherwise you can purchase hard copies from Amazon or other good bookstores.)

Good on you Bikash! At top of our World Transformation Movement homepage at HumanCondition.com, it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes subscribing to our mailing list where you will receive one email per week and occasional News Flashes. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world, and most importantly, it’s a vehicle for people to contribute to the growing momentum and building of a critical mass of support for the WTM. We also wanted to mention that the WTM Community page on our website is a handy resource and guide for how to get involved and support these world-saving understandings.

    As THE Interview explains all humans are born with all-loving moral instincts but now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition caused by the conscious mind’s necessary search for knowledge. So we can at last understand WHY as a species we have become psychologically upset—so competitive and aggressive as to want to dominate and control others. We can also explain that all ‘races’ (ethnic groups) fall somewhere on the spectrum of either being more sheltered from humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, or more exposed to it, and so are either more innocent or more psychologically upset. We can see that at this point of time Caucasians fall somewhere in the middle, with more psychologically embattled races having ‘peaked’ earlier, and less psychologically embattled races yet to peak (see chapter 8:16E of Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM), however, the truth is that all humans are now part of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, and are therefore nowhere near as innocent as humans were some 2 million years ago when the battle of the human condition first emerged. So the more upset have been overthrowing the less upset since the human condition emerged. However, what is most important is that despite the differing levels of upset due to everyone’s different encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, we are all equally good. Now we can understand the human condition we can see that no person or race is superior or inferior. This desperately needed reconciling understanding of the relationship between races is further explained in Freedom Essay 28 and for a testimonial on the power of this information to end racism, we recommend watching/reading the presentation from Franklin Mukakanga, of Zambia, in Video/Freedom Essay 8.     Finally, in Addendum 2 of his book Death by Dogma, Jeremy explains why the Judeo-Christian Western culture, like the right-wing in politics, has been one of the main targets for rejection by the pseudo idealistic, politically correct, ‘woke’, identity politics, cancel culture movement — but that it has finally delivered the explanation of the human condition that the whole world has been so desperately waiting for.

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    Thank you so much for your thoughtful and heartfelt comment Valrie.     It is important to note that Jeremy Griffith’s work doesn’t ignore, exclude or contradict a belief in God — it simply brings biological understanding to all those pre-scientific concepts. In fact, Jeremy considers the Bible to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing all the truth about human life albeit from a pre-science view. Although this is science, it is based on a ‘Godly’ nature in the sense of recognising, like all the great religions do, that we humans once lived in a pre-human-condition-afflicted state of original innocence where we were perfectly instinctively orientated to the cooperative, selfless, loving, ‘Godly’ ideals of life; ‘God’ being explained as the personification of the integrative meaning of life (see Freedom Essay 23).     It is true that people have been able to get great peace and sustenance through a faith in God, but the more you digest this understanding, we suggest the more you will see how it brings profound peace to your and everyone’s situation. What is so important about Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition is that it finally explains the real reason for why humans’ selfish, competitive and destructive behaviour became an unavoidable, indeed necessary, part of human life. And with our goodness biologically established, we no longer need to be preoccupied with proving our worth. Solving the human condition solves all the confusion, frustration and suffering in human life at its source so we can actually stop the angry destruction of ourselves, each other and the planet and save the world. You may be interested in FAQ 1.34, in which the highly respected psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen, a former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, wrote: “the beauty of Griffith’s treatise is that the healing starts at the macro level of the universal human condition; the healing of the shame and blame that the whole human race has suffered from…It brings the greater context and love to all human psychosis and suffering, and then, from under the umbrella of that safe position, everyone can gradually work inwards to their particular experience of all the imperfections in human life that have now, finally, been made sense of.” It is, “great therapy”, as you say, Valrie.

    Yes, as Jeremy points out in THE Interview, the word ‘psychosis’ literally means ‘soul-illness’ and ‘psychiatry’ literally means ‘soul-healing’ (derived as they are from psyche meaning ‘soul’, osis meaning ‘abnormal state or condition’ and iatreia meaning ‘healing’). And what is our soul? As Jeremy also explains, it is our original, nurtured, cooperative and loving, moral, biologically-derived instinctive self. And so to resolve our human condition and heal our soul, achieve psychotherapy, the fundamental need has been to explain why we corrupted our soul, because that’s the reconciling understanding that removes our need to psychologically dissociate or split from our soul and become psychotic or alienated.     So the truth is any therapy of our now massively upset, 2-million-years-troubled, condition can only effectively begin when we can understand biologically the difference between the gene-based and nerve-based learning systems and how that difference resulted in us corrupting our soul, which is the key insight Jeremy provides. It’s only now with that biological understanding in place that we are in a position to effectively therapise our psychologically upset condition, and end our 2 million years of distress and alienation.

In Part 1 of THE Interview Jeremy Griffith addresses the almost universal excuse for our angry, egocentric and alienated behaviour, which is that it is due to selfish, must-reproduce-our-genes, survival-of-the-fittest, ‘savage instincts’ within us – what you describe as “animalistic dominance control behavior”. However, with our psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated state now defended, it is now safe to admit that our human instincts are loving – see Part 3 of THE Interview. We now know that our destructive behaviour is not due to savage instincts but is the result of a psychosis caused by the ‘instincts and intellect’ clash. And we suggest that with this true defence for our behaviour established, it is now possible to consider that there is clear evidence that humans developed from a cooperative and loving ancestor – of which the bonobos are a living model; you can read about the fossil evidence for this cooperative past in chapter 5:5 of FREEDOM.

It’s so powerful, I wish I had learned this at school in my teens.

Hi Amos, it’s great you’ve watched THE Interview as it’s the ideal introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition. From there, at top of our World Transformation Movement homepage at HumanCondition.com, it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes subscribing to our mailing list where you will receive one email per week and occasional News Flashes. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. We are a not-for-profit organisation and make all our material and publications free to read online, watch, listen to and even download and print!

    That’s a really perceptive link Deb — Blake’s vision of Innocence, Experience, and Organized Innocence captures exactly the psychological journey Jeremy Griffith describes. Jeremy actually discusses Blake’s poems directly - see for example Freedom Essay 10 and Freedom Essay 53, where he explains how The Tyger and Songs of Innocence and Experience described humanity’s struggle with the human condition.     As Jeremy shows, Blake recognised that the gentle, cooperative lamb in us represents our original, instinctive innocence, while the tiger symbolises our later, consciously troubled, corrupted state. Blake was asking: how could both have come from the same creator? Jeremy’s biological explanation finally resolves that question, showing how our conscious mind’s clash with our loving instincts led to our ‘fallen’ state — and how understanding that conflict at last allows us to achieve what Blake foresaw as Organized Innocence, a harmony between intellect and instinct.

    Thank you Eleanor, that question goes to the essence of what Jeremy Griffith explains in THE Interview. His biological understanding of the human condition shows that cruelty toward one another and the animal world was never our natural state but the result of a psychological conflict between our loving instincts and our emerging conscious intellect.     What Jeremy has done is provide the scientific answer to the great question of why, when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless, we are so angry, competitive and selfish. This is of great importance because having found the good reason that we had to defy our instincts means all our defensive, ‘bad’ behaviours (our anger, egocentricity and alienation) are now redundant — and living without cruelty, in harmony with each other and the rest of life, becomes the natural and inevitable state. There couldn’t be a bigger breakthrough.

Thank you Michael. If you would like to read about the demystification of religion and ‘God’ (Luke 1:37 says that “For with God nothing shall be impossible”), please see our FAQs on religion.

Hi Linda, thank you for your interest. You can immediately access copies of Jeremy Griffith’s key books, including THE Interview, his mid-length 2025 book The Human Condition and his definitive book FREEDOM, on the World Transformation Movement’s homepage in the ‘WHAT NEXT’ section. Just click on the covers of the books to access your free electronic copy to read, listen to or download! You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon.

It’s great to hear that what is explained in THE Interview is resonating and starting to make sense to you Samantha. In this interview Jeremy Griffith answers the age-old question of why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Despite this competitive and selfish behaviour, deep down we humans have always intuitively believed we were fundamentally good, but we have never before been able to explain this contradictory, conflicted behaviour. We suggest it is because Jeremy biologically answers this question and establishes our goodness as a species that his explanation is resonating so much with you. In terms of feeling a bit confused the fundamental explanation is very simple but, as Jeremy also explains, it does open up the historically off-limits subject of the human condition so people can initially struggle to fully grasp or ‘hear’ what is being presented, there can be an initial ‘deaf effect’ which is explained in our FAQ 1.16 ‘What is the Deaf Effect? / What is the solution to the Deaf Effect?’. We suggest re-watching THE Interview and then watch it’s companion presentation The Great Guilt that causes the Deaf Effect. It is an astonishingly beautiful and revealing presentation where Jeremy takes us back to when the human condition first emerged in humans and comprehensively explains our fear of the human condition is a result of the shame and guilt we feel for having corrupted our all-loving and sensitive soul. You can watch or read it here on our website.

It’s wonderful you have watched THE Interview Cheryl and want to learn more! Finally being able to understand and reconcile the human condition unlocks all the answers you’ve been searching for as it gives us the ability to understand every aspect of human behaviour with 100% clarity and confidence! As our FAQ 1.5 ‘Why is this explanation important to my life?’ explains solving the human condition solves all the confusion, frustration and suffering in human life at its source so it couldn’t be a bigger breakthrough! To learn more the top of our homepage ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. Ideally you would read the two expansions: Jeremy’s mid-length 2025 book The Human Condition, and his definitive book FREEDOM. As well it’s very helpful to watch the three other Introductory Videos, which are The Great Guilt, The Great Transformation and Sermon On The Beach. Also, the 16 Main Videos are very instructive. All our videos and books are freely available to watch, read or download and you can also subscribe to our mailing list to receive one free essay by Jeremy Griffith each week and occasional news flashes. Also joining our Facebook Group is another exciting way to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world!

Thank you for sharing your feelings Danny. Firstly, and most importantly, Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of our human condition does not condone or sanction the horrendous atrocities humans can commit rather, through bringing compassionate understanding to the source of humans’ upset behaviour, it gives us the power to ameliorate and thus subside and ultimately eliminate it, see FAQ 1.38 ‘Aren’t some people just born psychopathic, or even ‘evil’? / How does this explanation rehabilitate people capable of ‘evil’ behaviour? / Does this condone ‘evil’ behaviour?’. As the late Professor Harry Prosen, psychiatrist and former president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, said: “I have no doubt Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race.”     There is much to digest, but explanation of the human condition reveals that the human race started out innocent and then became increasingly corrupted as a result of the heroic search for knowledge. This key insight allows us to understand that indigenous ‘races’, who have been relatively sheltered from humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, will be more ‘innocent’, or less psychologically upset, than those ‘races’ more exposed to the battle. This explains why indigenous peoples have so much affinity with our instinctive soulful, cooperative way of living and the natural world; however, even indigenous peoples are only ‘relatively’ innocent, because all humans are now part of the extremely upset stage of humanity, H. sapiens sapiens, and are therefore nowhere near as innocent as humans were some two million years ago when the battle of the human condition first emerged. But, what is most significant, is that despite the differing levels of upset due to everyone’s different exposure to humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, we can now understand that we are all equally good.     You might like to read our FAQ 9.1 about how this understanding puts an end to racism; and for testimonials on the power of this knowledge to end racism and unite the human race, we recommend those from Franklin Mukakanga, founder of WTM Zambia and Refentse Molosiwa, founder of WTM Mahikeng, in Video/Freedom Essay 8. In this presentation Franklin understandably describes how he feel before he came across Jeremy’s understanding of the human condition, saying he “hated what [Caucasians] had done and continue to do to my people in the process of bringing us ‘civilisation’. This led to a deep resentment and to my treating Caucasians with a cool, guarded ambivalence.” And after reading Jeremy’s definitive book FREEDOM he said: “From my own experience I can say with absolute certainty that, as the word gets out, FREEDOM will provide the key to healing poor or strained ‘race relations’ throughout the world. Basically, this understanding of the human condition will end all prejudices, like racism, forever”. So we hope you pursue your interest Danny as we suggest your first emotion was correct – that this explanation is “Fantastic”!

Hi Priscilla and thank you for your comment. Biologist Jeremy Griffith’s breakthrough explanation of the human condition (presented in this interview) gives us the ability, for the first time ever, to understand every aspect of human behaviour in ourselves and in everyone else with 100% clarity and confidence! This critical new science explains all humans are born with all-loving moral instincts (not ‘savage’ animal instincts) but now variously suffer from a psychosis due to the human condition caused by the conscious mind’s necessary search for knowledge. What is so important about Jeremy’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition is that it finally explains the real reason for why humans’ competitive behaviour became an unavoidable, indeed necessary, part of human life. Proving we were better than someone else gave us validation and reinforcement to counter the deep insecurity we felt about having to become self-corrupted. Now with our goodness and worth biologically established, we no longer need to be preoccupied with proving our goodness and worth. So we finally have the completely redeeming, uplifting and healing understanding of the core mystery and problem about human behaviour of our so-called ‘good and evil’-stricken human condition — thus ending all the conflict and suffering in human life at its source, and providing the now urgently needed road map for the complete rehabilitation and transformation of our lives and world! See FAQ 1.5 ‘Why is understanding the human condition important to my life?’.

Hi Margie, it’s wonderful you want to know more after watching THE Interview! The place to start is at top of our World Transformation Movement homepage at HumanCondition.com where it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. Ideally you would read the two expansions: Jeremy’s mid-length 2025 book The Human Condition, and his definitive book FREEDOM. It is also very helpful to watch the three other Introductory Videos that follow THE Interview: The Great Guilt, The Great Transformation and Sermon On The Beach. Also, the 16 Main Videos are very instructive. All our videos and books are freely available to watch, read or download and you can also subscribe to our mailing list to receive one free essay by Jeremy Griffith each week and occasional news flashes. Also joining our Facebook Group is another exciting way to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world!

Yes Julie there is a bit to understand but take heart as the essential argument is very simple! What biologist Jeremy Griffith introduces is a new scientific paradigm based on confronting, rather than the historic practice of avoiding, the issue of the human condition and it is this avoidance that is putting you off listening to the help THE Interview provides. While great care has been taken to present the explanation as quickly and simply as possible (which is done in Part 1) THE Interview also explains discussion of the human condition can be initially difficult to access because it goes to the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad so it’s been the most terrifying of all subjects to face and we have necessarily lived in almost total denial of it. This means our minds can initially struggle to hear and absorb discussion about it but, thankfully, this ‘deaf effect’ can be overcome with patient perseverance and everyone can access this most wonderful of all gifts of understanding the human condition! This deaf effect, and its solution, is comprehensively explained in the presentation that follows THE Interview titled The Great Guilt that causes the Deaf Effect and also in our FAQ 1.16 ‘What is the ‘Deaf Effect’? / What is the solution to the ‘Deaf Effect’?’.     To summarise the incredible help understanding the human condition brings to our whole being Jeremy explains at the beginning of Part 4 that “Well, what this real—and actually very obvious—instinct vs intellect explanation of the human condition fundamentally does is lift the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race. It establishes that we humans are good and not bad after all. While we are all inevitably variously angry, egocentric and alienated from our different encounters with humanity’s heroic battle to find knowledge, ultimately self-knowledge, understanding of our corrupted condition, we can now know that every human is fundamentally good. And this ability to understand and know there was a good reason why the human race became psychologically upset, is the key, relieving understanding we have been in search of ever since we became conscious some 2 million years ago and our corrupted condition emerged. That is the key relief for our mind—being finally able to understand that we are good and not bad is what brings us the greatest psychological relief of all.”

    All humans — regardless of culture or circumstance — are equally conscious and capable of reason. Which means that the conflict Jeremy Griffith describes between our instincts and intellect is universal.     In THE Interview, Jeremy explains that our behaviour has long been misunderstood as driven by “savage instincts,” but that was just a false excuse for our upset, insecure state. With the real, biological defence for our condition now found, we can finally acknowledge that our instincts are in fact loving, not brutal. Humanity’s evolutionary story, as Jeremy shows, began in cooperation, not competition. See Freedom Essay 21 for the explanation of how we gained our loving moral instincts.     And when people in more privileged circumstances are no longer preoccupied with proving their worth—through the artificial pursuits of power, fame, and wealth—they’ll naturally turn their energy and compassion toward helping those in need. That’s the great transformation Griffith describes: once our insecurity ends, our capacity for genuine selfless care is released, and we can finally work together to relieve suffering everywhere in the world. You can read more about this great transformation in Freedom Essay 15.

Yes, while religions contain all manner of truths about human life, it is all from a pre-scientific view. Solving the human condition required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough that Jeremy Griffith presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. And with regard to “ego death”, as you are picking up on, what is so extraordinary about Jeremy Griffith’s treatise is that paradoxically it logically and accountably defends human selfishness and egocentricity. It is that defence of our ‘dark side’, through finding the good reason that we had to defy our instincts, that means all our defensive behaviours (our anger, egocentricity and alienation) are now redundant. We no longer need them because we have the real defence for why we had to defy our instincts. And because this is a rational, accountable, scientific explanation, everyone will eventually take it up. So while it may take time for everyone to access this breakthrough (because the human condition has historically been such a fearful, off-limits topic), once this catches on through people recognising the importance of it and supporting it, the infectious enthusiasm and selfless love it liberates will spread like wildfire.

Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition explains that we became psychologically upset sufferers of the angry, egocentric and alienated human condition as the unavoidable result of a clash between our pre-established instincts and emerging conscious mind. Jeremy explains in THE Interview that without this defence for our upset state we have sought to falsely blame our behaviour on ‘savage instincts’ within us. We suggest that with this true defence for our behaviour established, it is now possible to consider that there is clear evidence that humans developed from a cooperative and loving ancestor – of which the bonobos are a living model; you can read about the fossil evidence for this cooperative past in chapter 5:5 of FREEDOM.

Hi Elisabeth, it’s wonderful you’ve watched THE Interview and now want to read Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM! You can immediately access a copy of FREEDOM and all of Jeremy’s key books, including the booklet version of THE Interview and his mid-length 2025 book The Human Condition, on the World Transformation Movement’s homepage in the ‘WHAT NEXT’ section. Just click on the covers of the books to access your free electronic copy to read, listen to or download! You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. If you are particularly after a hardcopy of Jeremy Griffith’s books they are available to purchase from Amazon and other good bookstores.

He lost me at the word “left-wingers.” He rubbed out half the world with a political slur that makes his “brilliant” theory questionable. I was right there with him until that crackpot remark. I’m sure he’ll rationalize it away by saying I’ve now proven his theory with my “troubled” human mind. In fact, I applaud his terribly distinguished effort.

Great to have your interest Sean! The best place to start is to watch THE Interview, in which biologist Jeremy Griffith presents his breakthrough ‘instinct v intellect’ explanation of the human condition. Part 1 of this interview presents the explanation as quickly and simply as possible and FAQ 1.3 presents a very brief summary of the key ‘instinct vs intellect’ concept. Essentially, when we humans developed a conscious mind some 2 million years ago, a battle unavoidably developed between it and our already established instincts. The result of this conflict between our instinct and intellect was that we became psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric — the upset state we refer to as the human condition. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition so it couldn’t be a bigger breakthrough!

Thank you for allowing me to watch it.

Thank you so much Mike. It will certainly take generations for this understanding to heal humanity, but we think the takeup, and transformation of everyone’s lives, will be a lot quicker than that. As Jeremy explains in chapter 9.9 of his book FREEDOM: “Although this new world for humans, which the World Transformation Movement has been established to facilitate, will, as has been stated, have a slow beginning because humans initially find it difficult even taking in or ‘hearing’ discussion about the human condition, once the WTM is discovered, word of it and what it offers every human and the world will spread like wildfire.’” And so even though we haven’t yet reached the tipping point in terms of awareness of this great breakthrough, you can see from the excitement and relief in our ecstatic responses to THE Interview, we are well on our way! Also, on our World Transformation Movement homepage, you can see the rapidly growing appreciation and support for Jeremy’s work with outstanding commendations from thought leaders and WTM Centres all over the world!

    We certainly respect people’s religious views Katherine and biologist Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition doesn’t actually contradict a belief in God or Christianity it simply brings biological understanding to all those pre-scientific concepts. In fact, Jeremy considers the Bible to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth about human life albeit from that pre-scientific view. The difference being that we can now with the benefit of science, bring clarifying, first-principle biological explanation to our so-called ‘good and evil’-afflicted human condition and why we had to depart from our original innocence, whilst religion had to rely on metaphor and a more literal interpretation. This demystification of religious concepts is not intellectually dishonest at all it is actually something all religions looked forward to and represents the fulfilment of religions (see FAQ 6.3 ‘Aren’t all Griffith’s demystifications of religious teachings going to be seen by supporters of religion as blasphemy? / Does understanding of the human condition undermine a faith in religion or God? / How does this affect my personal religious practice? / How can you reconcile the explanation of the human condition that defends the upset state with religious teachings that condemn upset?’).     For instance in Part 2 of THE Interview Jeremy explains the story of Adam and Eve is a pre-scientific metaphor for the emergence of consciousness and its clash with our pre-established, cooperative loving instincts, resulting in humans becoming psychologically upset or ‘sinful’ or ‘evil’. However, significantly we can now understand, from scientific first principles, that ‘Adam and Eve’ were ‘good’ to search for knowledge, not bad or ‘evil’; we humans are actually the absolute heroes of the whole story! It establishes that we are good and not bad after all. (The Gnostics recognised that the search for knowledge was paramount and this was reflected in their interpretation of the Adam and Eve story where they saw Adam and Eve as heroes, not villains for taking the fruit, so this is a scientific fulfilment of gnosticism.) What THE Interview presents fundamentally lifts the ‘burden of guilt’ from the human race and allows us to forgive ourselves and others and finally end our psychologically troubled human condition. Importantly, this understanding of why we became upset as a species does not condone or sanction ‘sin’ or ‘evil’, rather, it gives us the power to ameliorate and thus subside and ultimately eliminate it, see FAQ 1.38 ‘Does this condone ‘evil’ behaviour?’.     Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why we are fundamentally good—answer the age-old question of why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish? Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents here (see FAQ 1.13 ‘Is this original or new?’). As Craig Conway says to Jeremy in THE interview “your basic point is that science’s discovery of the way genes and nerves work has finally made it possible for the liberation of humanity from the horror of the human condition” to which Jeremy replies “Yes, that is the essential truth: science is the liberator, the so-called ‘messiah’ or ‘redeemer’ of humankind, as we always hoped it would be!”.     This critical new science really does represent a huge demystification of our world, which can be challenging and takes time to digest, but the preference for more literal interpretations is respected, as we hope respect is maintained for our right to a science-based interpretation.

Thank you for your comment Richard. Jeremy Griffith does acknowledge the great sensitivity and capability neurodiverse people can retain and uses examples of savants in his book A Species In Denial in the section about Resignation.

Hi Eric and thank you for your comment. As explained in our FAQ 5.5 ‘Aren’t other animals capable of conscious thought like humans? / How can you say humans are the only fully conscious animals?’: “Jeremy Griffith explains in THE Interview that consciousness means being sufficiently aware of how experiences are related to attempt to manage change from a basis of understanding cause and effect. Clearly, while other animals have various levels of ‘awareness’ none can consciously manage events like humans can, and so it is accurate to describe humans as the only animals possessing fully conscious minds. It is also worth noting that Jeremy explains that developing consciousness depended on overcoming the competitive, selfish ‘animal condition’ and becoming orientated to selflessness, so if a species is still preoccupied with selfish, competitive dominance, as other animals are, they can’t become fully conscious. We recommend our FAQ 5.4 titled ‘What is consciousness? / Why is it that humans became conscious while other animals haven’t? / How did consciousness emerge in humans?’. For a full description of the emergence of consciousness in humans, see chapter 7 of FREEDOM [Jeremy’s definitive book on the human condition]." So we encourage you to explore those links Eric as what is presented is absolutely fascinating!

    Thank you for your appreciative comment Ndabezinhle. Jeremy Griffith’s work doesn’t ignore, exclude or contradict a belief in God, or religion. It simply brings biological understanding to all those pre-scientific concepts and by so doing reconciles science and religion. For example, Jeremy considers the Bible to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth, containing all the truth about human life albeit from a pre-science view.     Although this is science, it is based on a ‘Godly’ nature in the sense of recognising, like all the great religions do, that we humans once lived in a pre-human-condition-afflicted state of original innocence where we were perfectly instinctively orientated to the cooperative, selfless, loving, ‘Godly’ ideals of life; ‘God’ being explained as being the personification of integrative meaning of life; see Freedom Essay 23. We also think you might find our FAQs about religion of interest, especially FAQs ‘What is God’ and ‘Does this understanding undermine religion’.

Hi Lisa, as with any new scientific breakthrough it will take time to reach the whole world, and because the human condition has historically been such a terrifying realm, nowhere is this resistance greater than when attempting to bring understanding to the human condition — but with enough people developing a deep appreciation and desire to support it our problems will be solved very quickly — see our FAQ 1.5 ‘Why is understanding the human condition important to my life?’. So take heart Lisa, because as you can see from the thousands of impressive commendations on our website from thought leaders and members of the public and the over 80 WTM Centres that have opened across the globe, the relief and excitement of finally being able to make sense of human life is turning into a tidal wave of world-saving support!! As Part 4 of THE Interview and FAQ 1.40 ‘How can you hope to transform the world?’ explain, while the world is fast approaching a point of no return, this understanding will turn things around incredibly quickly, because it explains and solves the underlying cause of all our selfishness, anger and egocentricity. We also recommend reading Freedom Essay 15: ‘How understanding the human condition can immediately transform your and every other human’s life and save the world’. If you are interested in getting involved joining our Facebook Group is highly recommended because there is so much helpful, practical and inspired discussion taking place there about living with this world-saving knowledge!

    Thanks Mary, your knowledge of Jung’s work should mean you have a wonderful foundation to appreciate Jeremy Griffith’s ‘Instinct vs Intellect’ breakthrough explanation of the human condition.     We recommend reading FAQ 1.47 “How does Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition differ from the theories of Freud or Jung?”, as it explains how Jeremy’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation varies from Jung’s work. In short, the only way humans could, as Jung said, ‘own our own shadow’ was to ameliorate the guilt we, our conscious thinking mind, feels for having corrupted our all-loving instinctive self or soul, and that could only be achieved by explaining why we had to endure becoming angry, egocentric and alienated—why our corrupted human condition was actually a heroic and loveable condition rather than a bad, ‘evil’, ‘sinful’ condition. Answering this question of questions, lifting the ‘great burden of guilt’ from the human race, required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents. Which is why Professor Harry Prosen, a former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, said, “I have no doubt this biological explanation of the human condition is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race.”

That’s wonderful to learn how much relief Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition is bringing you Ezekiel! What Jeremy introduces is a new scientific paradigm based on confronting, rather than the historic practice of avoiding, the issue of the human condition—which leads to so many new concepts such as that the human race lived in an original state of innocence, that nurturing created our moral soul, and that there is an integrative meaning to existence—so it does require some investigating and digestion to comprehend all aspects of the new paradigm. In terms of our spirit and death in his definitive book FREEDOM, par 840, Jeremy explains that when we die we don’t live on in any physical sense but we do live on in spirit, to quote: “…it can be understood that all human effort since time immemorial has been meaningful. Humans can now understand that each and every human life is extraordinarily significant and that their efforts on Earth, the real essence of their being, do carry on and endure. The spirit of humans, the enormous courage that they have exhibited on the journey to enlightenment through the incredible darkness, loneliness and hardship of having to live in denial, lives on in each of us and is carried on in all subsequent generations.” This is explained in more detail in Jeremy’s best selling book A Species In Denial, see section titled ‘Afterlife explained’. Also we recommended our FAQ 1.26 ‘What is soul, have we all got one, has it been repressed, and if so, how do we rehabilitate it?’

That’s great Bernard! Once you have finished reading the transcript of THE Interview we encourage you to explore our World Transformation Movement homepage at HumanCondition.com. You will see the section titled ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ which guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes subscribing to our mailing list where you will receive one email per week and occasional News Flashes. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. We are a not-for-profit organisation and make all our material and publications free to read online, watch, listen to and even download and print!

Please send me the book I’m very interested

We welcome your curiosity Richard! The best place to start is to watch THE Interview, in which Jeremy Griffith presents his breakthrough ‘instinct v intellect’ explanation of the human condition. Part 1 of this interview presents the explanation as quickly and simply as possible and FAQ 1.3 presents a very brief summary of the key ‘instinct vs intellect’ concept. Essentially, when we humans developed a conscious mind some 2 million years ago, a battle unavoidably developed between it and our already established instincts. The result of this conflict between our instinct and intellect was that we became psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric — the upset state we refer to as the human condition. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition. Happy exploring Richard!

    While it’s true that we all seem very different, with unique personalities, histories and temperaments, the truth is that we are all very similar. we are all insecure and preoccupied with proving our worth. This happens in different ways depending on our own encounter with the human condition (which includes our upbringing, our culture etc etc), but we can now see that we’re all wrestling with the same internal conflict.     Essentially Jeremy Griffith explains that when humans developed a conscious mind some two million years ago, a battle unavoidably developed between it and our already established instincts. The result of this conflict between our instinct and intellect was an undeserved sense of guilt and insecurity that caused us to become psychologically upset — angry, egocentric and alienated — a state we sought to alleviate through a competitive, selfish and aggressive bid for the reinforcement we could gain from winning power, fame, fortune and glory. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict and the guilt it produced, all those insecure, defensive, egocentric behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition.