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Yes, ‘mysticism’ in its various forms contains all manner of truths about human life - even identifying the key aspects in the ‘instinct vs intellect’ clash that caused the human condition. As Jeremy Griffith explains in Freedom Essay 53, “The many thinkers who have recognised the instinct vs intellect elements of the human condition demonstrate how apparent, indeed obvious, these elements are when someone is prepared to think honestly and truthfully about our condition.” Ultimately however, we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM.

    Yes, the human condition has been characterised by our instincts in effect being ‘intolerant’ of our conscious-mind-induced behavioural deviations from our instinctive orientations - our naturally selected instincts are ‘dictatorial’ in that sense. The result of this “inability to tolerate ambiguity”, was that our species became psychologically upset, including, as you suggest, “neurotic”. As Jeremy Griffith explains in chapter 3:4 of his definitive book FREEDOM, “Overall, it was a terrible predicament in which [we] became PSYCHOLOGICALLY UPSET — a sufferer of PSYCHOSIS and NEUROSIS. Yes, since, according to Dictionary.com, ‘osis’ means ‘abnormal state or condition’, and the Penguin Dictionary of Psychology’s entry for ‘psyche’ reads ‘The oldest and most general use of this term is by the early Greeks, who envisioned the psyche as the soul or the very essence of life’ (1985 edn), Adam developed a ‘psychosis’ or ‘soul-illness’, and a ‘neurosis’ or neuron or nerve or ‘intellect-illness’. His original gene-based, instinctive ‘essence of life’ soul or PSYCHE became repressed by his intellect for its unjust condemnation of his intellect, and, for its part, his nerve or NEURON-based intellect became preoccupied denying any implication that it is bad. Adam became psychotic and neurotic.”     You might also be interested in reading FAQ 1.47 “How does Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition differ from the theories of Freud or Jung?”.

To avoid any confusion, while some people express their excitement over finding this redeeming understanding through religious terminology, it is important to note that what is presented is not religious; it is the fully accountable, logical, based-in-scientific-first-principles biological explanation of the human condition. Certainly though, with the benefit of science we can now bring clarifying, first-principle biological explanation to our so-called ‘good and evil’-afflicted human condition and why we had to depart from our original innocence, which means we can at last reconcile science and religion. Read more about religion and how it can now be demystified, in our FAQs about religion.

Most interesting subject matter to know.

Yes, the ‘Sun’ of understanding truly is ‘glorious’. You might be interested in Freedom Essay 45 about ‘Prophetic Songs and the symbolism of the rising sun’ where it is explained that, “And the image songwriters invariably reach for to express this dream of enlightenment is the rising sun—because light symbolises knowledge and its ability to defeat the darkness of ignorance; with the ultimate ignorance being of ourselves, understanding of our 2-million-year corrupted, ‘fallen’, soul-destroyed human condition.”

As WTM FAQ 1.9 ‘Should people be sceptical’ explains, Professor Harry Prosen, a former president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, has endorsed the significance of Jeremy Griffith’s treatise, saying “I have no doubt Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race.” So while initial scepticism is warranted about the astonishing claims being made about this work the amazing fact is that they all withstand scrutiny. A person can begin reading the book and the more they read into it the more they will realise the claims being made are actually true as is evidenced by the ecstatic responses at the top of our homepage and the outstanding commendations this work has received from eminent scientists and thought leaders, here on our homepage. And as Professor Prosen indicates, understanding is the key to healing psychosis. And so by explaining the very good reason why our intellect had to defy our instincts, it heals the insecurity that has tortured us, and makes redundant our defensive behaviours of anger, egocentricity and alienation, allowing us to return to a loving state. So ‘words’ when they represent understanding, do a lot.

Part 4 of THE Interview, titled ‘How does the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible actually occur?’, presents the answer to how this understanding allows us to transform our lives immediately. It explains that it will take a number of generations for the upset within us to be completely healed but it also stresses importantly we can be immediately free of its effects. Certainly there is habituation to overcome and humans do find change difficult but at last we can understand our behaviour has been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because we have the first principle science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it. So instead of being focused on power, fame, fortune and glory, all our energies will be freed to truly work together on doing whatever it takes to end the suffering and save our world. How this healing is immediately open to us all is summarised in FAQ 4.1 and FAQ 1.40 addresses the questions of ‘How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful? / How are you going to reach the bastions of power? / Won’t the greedy and power-hungry simply ignore this?’.

We certainly respect people’s religious views Russell and Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition doesn’t actually contradict a belief in God or Christianity. It simply brings biological understanding to all those pre-scientific concepts. In fact, Jeremy considers the Bible to be a repository of extremely rare denial-free truth about human life albeit from that pre-scientific view. Although this is science, it is based on a Godly nature in the sense of recognising, like all the great religions do, that we humans once lived in a pre-human-condition-afflicted state of original innocence where we were perfectly instinctively orientated to the cooperative, selfless, loving, ‘Godly’ ideals of life; ‘God’ being explained in as being the integrative meaning of life. (For those interested our FAQs about religion include FAQ 6.2 ‘What is God’ and FAQ 6.3 ‘Does this undermine religion/God’.) The difference being that we can now with the benefit of science, bring clarifying, first-principle biological explanation to our so-called ‘good and evil’-afflicted human condition and why we had to depart from our original innocence, whilst religion had to rely on metaphor and a more literal interpretation.

Wonderful to have your interest Dr Acharya! THE Interview certainly makes us think and people can explore the topics disussed in more detail in Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM and also our extensive FAQ facility — all freely available on our homepage which guides people through our key publications.

Yes Gwen now at last the human condition is solved we can understand all our destructive and dsyfunctional behaviour or what can be seen as insanity. As Jeremy Griffith explains in THE Interview, while we couldn’t explain our corrupted, psychologically upset condition, we’ve had to live in denial of it. That denial has been necessary, however it means everyone has been masquerading around as though there was nothing wrong! As the Scottish psychiatraist R.D. Laing famously said “Insanity is a perfectly natural adjustment to an insane world” (see Freedom Essay 48 titled ‘R.D. Laing’s fearlessly honest descriptions of the human condition). So finally, as Jeremy says in Part 4 titled ‘How does the psychological rehabilitation of the human race that the arrival of understanding of the human condition finally makes possible actually occur?’: “Basically, now that our corrupted condition is finally truthfully explained, honesty replaces denial and the world heals. ‘Bullshit’, which is our everyday word for all the dishonest denial that’s been going on, protected us from all the truths about our corrupted condition that we couldn’t properly explain, but it was destroying the world and it now stops.”

Hi Norma, thank you for your interest and please see our reply to Lily below for our recommended steps to learn more about the human condition. Happy exploring!

Great work. It’s the real deal

That’s wonderful Lily! To learn more and progress your understanding here are our recommended next steps: • Subscribe to our free Mailing List where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. • Watch the Main Videos where Jeremy Griffith (& others) talk you through the explanation of the human condition. Totally free, no registration required. • Read the Key Books by Jeremy Griffith. Totally free to download, no registration required. • Join and participate in our Facebook Group to learn about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. • Help this critical new science by sharing it!

get it together people. the world does not operate by such simplistic conjectures.

thankfully the world is not that simple. only people like this are.

    Hi Eric, while great care has been taken to present the information as quickly and simply as possible (which is done in Part 1 of THE Interview), explanation of the human condition can be initially difficult to access. This is because it has been the most terrifying of subjects to face as it is the issue of whether we are fundamentally good or bad as a species, and we have necessarily lived in almost total denial of it (FAQ 1.16 ‘Why do I find this material impenetrably dense, repetitive, tedious and boring?’ explains this initial ‘deaf effect’). Also our FAQ 1.3 presents a very brief summary of the key ‘instinct vs intellect’ concept: essentially, when we humans developed a conscious mind some 2 million years ago, a battle unavoidably developed between it and our already established instincts. The result of this conflict between our instinct and intellect was that we became psychologically defensive, angry, alienated and egocentric – the upset state we refer to as the human condition. But now that we can explain and understand this conflict, all those insecure, defensive behaviours are obsoleted, brought to an end, and we free ourselves from the human condition, see FAQ 1.5 about how this understanding transforms our lives and therefore the world.     In terms of your second point Jeremy Griffith’s work explains that problems such as overpopulation and overdevelopment are merely symptoms of this deeper underlying issue of the human condition and therefore we now have the potential to fundamentally address such problems, see FAQ 1.6 ‘Why does understanding of the human condition solve everything?’. We also recommend FAQ 1.40 which addresses the questions of ‘Aren’t the problems of the world too overwhelming to ever be fixed? / Isn’t it too late to save the world? / How can you hope to transform the world? — In particular, how are you going to change the behaviour of the rich and powerful?’

Great to have your interest Pucky and we wanted to mention it does take a little time to get your head around the paradox of the human condition, and in particular, how it applies to politics. Biologist Jeremy Griffith’s ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation of the human condition allows us to understand the real merits and liabilities of both the left and right wing. His work certainly recognises the destructive brutality of the right-wing; indeed he brings understanding to the whole extremely destructive angry, egocentric and alienated human condition. He also recognises the failing of the Left, which is that its dogmatic insistence on cooperative, selfless and loving behaviour stifled and oppressed the freedom of expression and individualism needed to find knowledge, ultimately self-knowledge, the redeeming understanding of our seemingly destructive human condition that thankfully he has now found and presents in his book FREEDOM. Basically his work brings profound understanding to both sides, which ultimately brings to an end the whole ugly business of politics. This is fully explained in our FAQs about politics.

In chapter 8 of Jeremy Griffith’s definitive book FREEDOM, the whole human journey is explained, showing that humans lived in a cooperative state for at least 5 million years before the emergence of the human condition some 2 million years ago (it is this cooperative state that the bonobos are approaching). This period of our history emerges as an instinctive memory of a ‘Golden Age’ as recorded by writers such as Hesiod, Plato and Moses, which are included in Part 2 of THE Interview.

Thank you very much Sekepe. Yes, ‘money is not the root of all evil’ as the old saying had it. We can now understand that greed and materialism have just been symptoms of our psychologically upset angry, egocentric and alienated human condition, which in turn was a result of the ‘instinct vs intellect’ clash. We now have the ability, for the first time, to understand every aspect of human behaviour and our behaviour will change naturally as a result. At last we can understand we have been driven by a deep insecurity about our fundamental goodness or worth and so now that our goodness is biologically established we no longer have to behave insecurely and selfishly and can legitimately return to a selfless way of living. ‘Legitimately’ because at last we have the first principle-based science which liberates us to be honest about our conflicted upset state instead of denying or transcending it. This is the rapidly transforming practical effect of being able to understand the human condition which is fully explained and illustrated on our Transformation page.

What is so significant about Jeremy’s breakthrough explanation of the human condition is we no longer have to be burdened by the fundamental question of whether we are good or bad because that core goodness as individuals and as a species has been biologically established. We can understand humans’ psychological upset was the price humans had to pay for searching for knowledge and that the human story presents the greatest, most heroic story ever told. We can at last understand the source of our upset and trauma and bring great compassion and kindness to ourselves and others. This ends all the destruction and conflict - it brings peace to the human situation and healing to our planet. This is the ultimate paradigm shift.

In Part 3 of THE Interview Jeremy Griffith explains how we became fully conscious – that answer being that it developed as a result of nurturing or the love-indoctrination process. He refers the viewer to chapter 7 of his definitive book FREEDOM which provides a comprehensive explanation — a summary of which is in FAQ 5.4.

    And yet it changes everything. In Freedom Essay 5, WTM founding member Tony Gowing gives the following example, “Imagine you’re standing on a crowded bus in the middle of peak hour and the person next to you has bad breath and you’re hot and exhausted and frustrated and you just need to get home. And from somewhere behind you, you start to feel something whacking you on the leg. This goes on and on, and with each whack you get more angry. In fact, after a while you’re absolutely furious and so suddenly decide to turn around and throttle the bastard who’s doing it. But when you turn around, you realise it’s an old blind woman knocking you with her cane by mistake as she tries to get her bearings. Well, the effect of this discovery is that it instantly and completely changes the way you feel. Finally able to understand the situation, all the fury abates and relief and calm floods through you. You don’t feel like a victim anymore. The whole situation has been turned around by being able to understand it.”     As Tony goes on to explain, “And it is like that, but on a much, much bigger scale when you understand the human condition.”

Absolutely amazing..I need to learn more

    We suggest that one of the great outstanding mysteries of science is what is consciousness, and what Jeremy Griffith explains in THE Interview is that rather than referring to ‘sentience’, consciousness actually means being sufficiently aware or ‘conscious’ of how experiences are related to attempt to manage change from a basis of understanding. Clearly while other animals have various levels of ‘awareness’ or ‘sentience’, none can consciously manage events like humans can, and so it is accurate to describe humans as the only animals possessing fully conscious minds. It follows that no other animal will suffer from the ‘human condition’ which is when the conscious mind reaches a state where it competes with our instinctive orientations for the day to day management of our lives. We recommend our FAQ 5.4 titled ‘What is consciousness? / Why is it that humans became conscious while other animals haven’t? / How did consciousness emerge in humans?’     To the extent that selfless “compassion” is discernible amongst other animals, it means that they have overcome the competitive, selfish ‘animal condition’ to some extent, which, as explained in Part 3 of THE Interview, can only occur through the nurturing based love-indoctrination process that we humans went through - otherwise what you are witnessing is really reciprocity or kin-selection, which are genetically selfish strategies. Jeremy explains that every species would ‘try’ to develop as much love-indoctrinated integration as their circumstances permit, which can be seen in bonobos, but also to some extent in animals like dolphins and elephants, but how their physical and environmental situations have limited them from achieving that, meaning they still remain in the genetically selfish ‘animal condition’.

Thanks Gregory. Yes, it has been possible to recognise our egocentric and alienated state, and even intuitively come to the realisation that that state is not ‘bad’ but actually a heroic one, but in the end, the only thing that could truly end our egocentric and alienated state was the reconciling understanding of the human condition. Ultimately we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are we so angry, competitive and selfish. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM.

It’s great you’ve watched THE Interview as it’s the ideal introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition. From there, at top of our homepage HumanCondition.com, it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes subscribing to our mailing list where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world.

We suggest the more you absorb what is presented in THE Interview the more you will realise that all humans suffer from a universal psychosis, caused by the clash between our instinct and intellect. Certainly this manifests in a multitude of different ways, but that is to be expected because everyone has had a different exposure to the human condition, whether it is through how they were nurtured, or their exposure to upset in the world as a whole, but the macro truth is that we are all insecure about our self-worth, and at its source, the cause of this is the instinct vs intellect clash. Which is why the highly respected psychiatrist Professor Harry Prosen, a former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, wrote: “the beauty of Griffith’s treatise is that the healing starts at the macro level of the universal human condition; the healing of the shame and blame that the whole human race has suffered from…It brings the greater context and love to all human psychosis and suffering, and then, from under the umbrella of that safe position, everyone can gradually work inwards to their particular experience of all the imperfections in human life that have now, finally, been made sense of.”

While this project necessarily has a slow start, and as you suggest, that start will mainly involve older generations, humanity’s uptake of the explanation of the human condition has a fast finish as the selflessness it liberates in people will not only quickly solve all the problems on the planet, including teaching young people about this redeeming information, but the excitement and joy it brings means everyone will want to get on board as quickly as they can. We recommend Jeremy Griffith’s recent publication Our Meaning, as it explains just how desperate younger generations have been for this redeeming explaination of the reason for all their suffering, namely the corrupting journey to find knowledge.

THE Interview is the ideal introduction to Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition. From there, at top of our homepage HumanCondition.com, it states ‘WHAT NEXT after watching THE Interview?’ and guides you through the steps to pursue your interest. This includes subscribing to our mailing list where you will receive one email per week, occasional News Flashes, and notifications for our Live Events. We also encourage people to join our Facebook Group to learn more about this amazing, human-condition-resolved new world. We are a not-for-profit organisation and make all our material and publications free to read online, watch, listen to and even download and print!

To be pursued and understood.

Thanks very much for the appreciation Mahmoud. We do make FREEDOM available on Amazon, which has the broadest reach of any online bookstore we are aware of. Similarly, FREEDOM is listed on the Ingrams catalogue, which all good bookstores can order from. However, if FREEDOM is not available in Egypt through those means, you may have to download an electronic copy. You can immediately access a copy at the top of our homepage just under THE Interview. You will see an image of FREEDOM with the text ‘Free Copy’ so click on that to access your free electronic copy to read, listen to or download. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon.

We think as you digest this Geoff, you will realise that the ‘instinct vs intellect’ explanation gets to the very bottom of the human condition, and explains all the human dysfunction, such as why we have destroyed our environment and are unable to live in a sustainable way. To make meaningful change, we had to address the cause of the problem which this does.

We are living with unprecedented levels of suffering in the world and if we are to end that suffering we must understand its source, which is the human condition. That is why it is crucial to stand up and honestly say that this information solves the human condition. Also the astonishing claims being made about Jeremy Griffith’s work withstand scrutiny as what he presents is 100% logic which has attracted the support of eminent scientists and thinkers (see our Commendations page). We recommend our FAQ 1.9 ‘Should people be sceptical about claims’ and FAQ 1.17 ‘Shouldn’t your website be toned down’.

That’s absolutely wonderful to hear that this breakthrough explanation is resonating with you so strongly, Amy!! Please visit the WTM homepage where you’ll find a guide to pursue your interest, and if you are a Facebook user, we strongly encourage you to join our Facebook group. It is a thriving community of over 60,000 members where everyone is learning about the human condition and thriving in the excitement of the genuinely new world that this understanding brings.

Hi Teresa, thank you very much for your wonderfully appreciative comment. You may be interested in reading Jeremy Griffith’s Freedom Essay 28 about how this understanding puts an end to racism, and for a testimonial on the power of this knowledge to end racism, we recommend the presentations from Franklin Mukakanga, of Zambia, and Refentse Molosiwa, of South Africa, in Video/Freedom Essay 8. What you discover is this explanation unravels the seemingly impenetrable and insoluble confusion of human life — including why the horror of racism has existed under the duress of the human condition and, most importantly, finally brings it to an end!

Thank you for your initiative, Ron, we very much appreciate you sharing the WTM’s work. Yes, to stop the horrors you speak of we had to end the underlying insecurity that is driving all the destructive behaviour, which is exactly what Jeremy Griffith’s explanation of the human condition in THE Interview does. And the extraordinary significance of his biological treatise is that it establishes all humans are equally good, worthwhile, meaningful and wonderful regardless of gender, age, religion, etc. We recommend watching biologist Dr Anna Fitzgerald’s video commendation about how this explanation makes possible the real liberation of women, and also our FAQ 8.1 on ‘How does this reconcile the sexes’.

Great to learn of your interest, Anthony. Hard copies of Jeremy Griffith’s books, including THE Interview and his definitive presentation FREEDOM, can be purchased from Amazon or other good bookstores. Also, electronic copies are immediately available for free to read online/download/print/listen to HERE on our homepage. You can also download free Kindle versions from Amazon. Also, if you subscribe to our mailing list you will be sent our Freedom Essay Series, which serves as a wonderfully comprehensive course as it accompanies you through much of the content of FREEDOM in beautifully illustrated bite-size pieces. And lastly, we highly recommend The Introductory Video Series, which appears on our homepage HERE, with (in addition to THE Interview) The Great Guilt, The Great Transformation, and Videos 1 – 4 & 14 being key.

Hi Aruna, thank you for your interest. Essentially we needed to find the scientific explanation for why when the universal ideals are to be loving, cooperative and selfless are humans so angry, competitive and selfish, to the extent that we destroying ourselves and our natural world. Answering this question required finding the clarifying difference between the way the intellect and instincts work, and that is the great biological breakthrough Jeremy presents in THE Interview and his book FREEDOM. The human condition manifests in different ways in all as a result of our own experiences and exposure to the world, but the clash between instinct and intellect is the source of all our insecurity and subsequent anger, egocentricity and alienation, and so explaining it makes all those defensive behaviours redundant. We suggest you read the very brief summary in FAQ 1.3 and watch THE Interview if you haven’t already done so."

    Thanks very much Douglas. With regard to being “spirit children of heavenly parents”, we did want to point out for readers new to this material, that what is presented here is completely accountable, rational science. Certainly we can now understand that even though we have appeared to be anything but, humans are fundamentally good, in line with the Negative Entropy driven Integrative theme of the universe. Understanding our fundamental worth does bring great peace to our situation – by explaining the very good reason why our intellect had to defy our instincts, our defensive behaviours of anger, egocentricity and alienation are made redundant, which means “we do not need to resort to angry, defensive, competitive behavior, or to seek recognition or power by accumulating fancy goods or fame or conquests.” But this is a completely rationally driven consequence of explaining the human condition.     And you are quite right, nurturing will become all-important as humanity moves away from eons tortured by insecurity over our self-worth. We wanted to include this magnificent passage from chapter 6:13 of FREEDOM (which is titled, ‘Nurturing now becomes a priority’), because it provides a reassuring view on how, with compassionate understanding of the human condition, we can now appreciate that while humanity’s necessary preoccupation with finding knowledge compromised our ability to nurture, now that that preoccupation ends we can safely acknowledge the absolute importance of nurturing in our species’ development, and in its future: “now that we have found that very good reason why parents have been unable to nurture their children with anything like the unconditional love children instinctively expect and need, it is no longer necessary to deny the importance of nurturing both in the maturation of our species and in our own lives. Yes, with the arrival of understanding the terrible guilt that parents have felt for not being able to adequately nurture their offspring departs. Parents can now understand that their inability to adequately love their offspring is not their fault, but the product of the ever-accumulating levels of upset in the human race as a whole that resulted from our species’ heroic 2-million-year search for knowledge, specifically for self-knowledge, understanding of why we conscious humans are good and not bad. So yes, we can finally now admit the importance of nurturing and turn our attention back to the nurturing of our offspring—in fact, it now becomes a matter of great urgency that we do both these things.”

Hi Kenneth, it’s wonderful you are keen to learn more! The Introductory Video Series appears on our homepage HERE, which we highly recommend, with (in addition to THE Interview) The Great Guilt and Videos 1 – 4 & 14 being key. Also, if you subscribe to our mailing list you will be sent our Freedom Essay Series which serves as a wonderfully comprehensive course as it accompanies you through much of the content of Jeremy Griffith’s main book FREEDOM in beautifully illustrated bite-size pieces. And we encourage you to join our Facebook Group where many others are having their thirst for this knowledge quenched!